Has LeBron James endured more “slander & abuse” than Michael Jordan? | NBA | UNDISPUTED

Grant Hill got into the GOAT debate on The Old Man and the Three podcast with JJ Reddick. Hill compared Michael Jordan and LeBron James, and said no player has ever had to endure more slander than LeBron James. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe partake in a GOAT debate.
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Has LeBron James endured more “slander & abuse” than Michael Jordan? | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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[@OsborneRocky]

So Skip You Wanna Talk about Jordan is The GOAT bc Jordan He has more Rings than LeBron. Jordan, and LeBron Are Both Great Players Who Ever Played The Game Of Basketball. But If You Wanna Determine Who is The GOAT Player of Basketball By Rings. Then Bill Russell Has 11 Rings, Robert Horry has 7 Rings that's One Up on Michael Jordan.

[@rea2667]

Lebron is great. All time. Seemingly a great guy, great father, great business man… but he didn’t exceed expectations if the expectations was to be better than Jordan, because he’s not.

[@k05odom32]

Skipp loves mj Shannon loves the king j😋

[@k05odom32]

I hate it when Skipp says mj was god in sneakers hate that comparison😂

[@Just_B_a_GOOD_PERSON]

@@k05odom32 address Larry Bird about that

[@MrJeter32]

Skip accounts for about 98% of the Lebron slander on a daily 😂🤣😂🤣

[@themaadtitan9940]

He’s the Lebron Hate Ambassador

[@Mercurial.]

And Lebron deserves that bec he BADLY wants so be the MEDIA that his own channel is under the ESPN flag like yall black Americans are so deluded at it comes!!!

[@jeraldsikes6186]

He deserves it. He started it all

[@PeterStup]

@@jeraldsikes6186 You and the guy above you has so much insecurities in your life, that you find time in your day to post hateful comments. Bravo my brother, you are what they call side characters.

[@1god2savem34]

How it’s slander when it’s facts/opinion

[@sirebah8281]

“Everybody wants you to be successful until you become successful” - very well said

[@brandyhalabi819]

Yes it was 💯

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Absolutely!

[@shelbyhaiketic4212]

George Floyd

[@johnwebb2442]

You got that right.

[@jayzone43]

personal experience....yeah I agree

[@thebetterodds1141]

I’ve never seen a player in my 34 yrs of life more scrutinized than Lebron and for no reason at all… Im appreciate his greatness and I’m blessed to be able to see Kobe,MJ and Lebron play on a basketball court… You had to be there

[@RavensFlock9592]

No reason at all?? He brings it on himself.

[@MrComputertrends]

​@@RavensFlock9592 bro you need help. 🤣🤣

[@calebstephan2083]

​@@RavensFlock9592 because he calls himself the greatest ? Kareem, Kobe etc all called themselves the greatest as well.

[@jsm530]

Lol you are braindead. Lebron invites all the scrutiny in the world. You guys are beyond delusional. It's appalling

[@Mercurial.]

​@@MrComputertrends No you and y'all need help 😂😂😂

[@brayv_8]

It’s truly incredible to me how many times they have had the same exact Jordan vs Lebron argument on this show. I’m honestly impressed how they can give each other the same exact opinions day after day and not get tired of it.

[@mkjunehanks7058]

Word

[@connor_phillipz5689]

It makes money, so I doubt it matters to them if they're tired of it.

[@popdafourliketupacshakur6256]

It’s called indoctrination of the masses lol. They do this with politics, Hollywood media, etc… any ideas they want the masses to have the most, they will drill into your heads by having the same convo over n over and that’s why u see people who will repeat themselves over n over as if they haven’t said the same thing 1000s of times and 9x out of 10 just like the debate of jordan and MJ being the top 2 ever, they are wrong lol

[@a.quinejasmin]

grdxhdrh

[@frankiereyna472]

And ur still watching it

[@SeanStiggers]

LeBron was the talk of the Town even before he got to the NBA. He's literally been under a microscope walking on Eggshells and more than lived up to every expectation while also keeping his career pretty much spotless.

[@dnice4145]

So what? Lebron has had a successful life and career just like Jordan. Why should anyone feel "pity" or feel sorry for Lebron. It's ridiculous.

[@christopheradams4500]

@@dnice4145 who is pitying him it’s just a fact

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

He did not meet expectations too many finals losses

[@christopheradams4500]

@@GreaterThanSolomon you tripping

[@criticalthought4910]

His career has been amazing and his overall story is one of the greatest in sports.

[@KeShawn98]

Skip say LeBron not even in the debate but debates it everyday 😂😂😂

[@georgekillmer6023]

Because he debates against someone with no sense🤣😂Lebron put it on himself to be compared to Jordan. And it’s not a debate. But to people like Shannon, gargling the kings balls for sneakers

[@Mercurial.]

That's LeShannon and not Skip 😂

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

This clip pretty much summed up Skip Bayless' TV career. He's pretty much said exactly the same thing for 20 years.

[@PierreRic1]

Shannon got really good at handling Skip. He responds with great facts instead of losing his mind despite the crazy things Skip might say. He won this argument again. Kudos!

[@jmoney6043]

To black people😂 to everyone else he's as bias as they come

[@dollarbill6342]

​@@jmoney6043 nah I'm black I usually disagree with Shannon alot

[@chrissalim2288]

@@jmoney6043 im as white as it gets my friend lol... and i agree with Shannon 99 percent over Skip.

[@jsm530]

@@dollarbill6342 based. Shannon is lustful for lequeen

[@KAP81]

Ain't no one force Skip's hand to defend MJ. From First Take to Undisputed, he has used LeBron to further his own career

[@themaadtitan9940]

Thank you

[@Mercurial.]

Oh no? U think it's a COINCIDENCE that UNDISPUTED started right after that summer Cavs 2016 won the title 🤓 Just admit u are black who writes this bec yall Americans is all about colour agendas. Its disgusting bec yall can't deal with FACTS on a daily basis!

[@charmonique33]

I glad Shannon said it

[@charmonique33]

And I hope Stephen A respond and say that’s why he didn’t want to work with skip anymore because everyday was a hate lebron show

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

Truuu

[@georgeprchal3924]

Skip says he doesn't hate but I've been watching for years and maybe can recall 3 time he's said anything remotely positive about LeBron.

[@kingofqueens68]

@George Prchal I only know of 2 times, 1 being when he says Lebron has the highest IQ in basketball, and 2. He is the best passer in basketball. Oh yeah I 4got, no one can freight train to the basket like he does in history. Which all is nothing earth shattering. Any real NBA follower knows that, can see that, and does not have to be told that by Skip Bayless. He needs to stop the BS.

[@georgeprchal3924]

@@kingofqueens68 I don't think he uses freight train as a compliment, a backhanded one maybe.

[@kingofqueens68]

@@georgeprchal3924 Maybe it is a backhanded one, but to me it sounds like he means it as a straight up compliment especially since he says it every time he says the other compliments. So I tend to believe him. But for him to only find 2 or 3 things to compliment the man on after a 20 yrs career is just shameful. But it shows you just what kind of person Skip is and will always be.

[@alltimehustle3307]

@@kingofqueens68 he says freight train to diminish lebron like this: “he runs from the late game freethrow line, he passed the ball for no reason, he’s a freight train and the greatest driver of the basketball we have ever seen! He could have gotten to the line but he scared of freethrows, he’s got the demons.”

[@kingofqueens68]

@@alltimehustle3307 Well thats your opinion, but I interpret it differently as if no one can stop him when he wants to drive to the basket being the greatest driver of the basketball we have ever seen.

[@thegoat6325]

That is crazy how the Cavs owner called him a quitter but hopped on a private jet to welcome him back, that's hilarious

[@phillipschuman4307]

He called him a quitter in bitterness over his decision to leave. The context Skip won't mention for some reason.

[@thegoat6325]

@@phillipschuman4307 because skip sides with the owner aka the oppressor in the situation

[@StrikeTeam0316]

lebum is garbage 🗑️ trash 🚮 so is the woman who birthed him.

[@thegoat6325]

@@StrikeTeam0316 says the guy who never seen half of what lebron's earned lmfaoooooo

[@StrikeTeam0316]

@@thegoat6325 money doesn’t define character. You and the woman who birthed you are also garbage 🗑️ trash 🚮

[@MajinMarcus_]

Again, Skip not answering the question and turned it into a LeBron v. Michael debate. The fact still remains: NOBODY has received the amount of criticism that LeBron has gotten over the years. It just doesn’t compare

[@slimcarter3738]

Most of dat criticism has came from Skip Lebron is loved worldwide knock it off

[@MajinMarcus_]

@@slimcarter3738 but he also has haters worldwide, Skip just happens to do it on TV. Not everyone is a LeBron fan and NOBODY criticized MJ the way LeBron has. MJ is known worldwide as the GOAT and people see him as MJ’s successor and hold him to that standard. And whenever he doesn’t live up to that standard, then he’s a crybaby, he only joins super teams, and etc etc…

[@tayprofit6760]

Yea because we know lebron is not that guy if we talking W-L lebron is considered an average player if we talking box office stats to increase or sell tickets then I guess curry isn’t better than lebron

[@tayprofit6760]

@@slimcarter3738 lebron is not him if we talking W-L he’s an average player

[@tayprofit6760]

@@MajinMarcus_ them are FACTZ it took for lebron to change teams after they build a team around lebron to win a championship. Steph never change teams Kobe never change 2 players that’s way better than lebron tell me something lebron did to make him the goat or what he did for his team mates to make them better

[@omarreid3711]

Well said Shannon. I couldn't even said it better than that. Indeed this young man has exceeded all our expectations. I have always said give this man credit while he is alive.

[@paulmccarthy4277]

Give michael jordan credit while he is alive .

[@MarioMartinez-tt9ly]

Remember skip says Lebron ain’t all that and in the same breath says baker mayfield is god’s gift.

[@user-xe5fz6se9j]

The expectation is for him to play basketball because he’s a basketball player. Just like the rest of the guys in the nba. If they try to operate outside of that they open themselves up for critique on a personal level.

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Right on, Brother. Right on!

[@slimjimmy4070]

@@paulmccarthy4277 Who doesn't give Mike credit? Everyone knows how great Jordan was.

[@Bilnation]

LeBron played his entire career during the social media era and the "worst" thing he did was change teams. Love MJ, but if his run spanned the gotcha journalism world we now live in, he'd be viewed a lot differently.

[@colewrld901]

Not if he still won 6 rings

[@Woe_Von]

people were telling jordan that he was the reason his father died. Lebron never went through anything like that

[@wesroberts953]

No one endured the media attention Jordan received. Jordan got everyone watching basketball, me included. Lebron is amazing, but not Jordan. Jordan would never flop to get a call. He would put on muscle and fight. For me, Kobe is above Lebron.

[@alexguerrero9097]

@@wesroberts953 good thing no one asked you

[@MrBBOTP]

Word up TRE! I try & keep it bball but Jordan loses 2 BRON off court 4sho!

[@raifaustino]

That restaurant analogy around the end of the video was incredible Shannon is the 🐐

[@Mercurial.]

Just as the 🐐 LeBron who's the only MVP in NBA HISTORY with the most Finals L's of 6 😭

[@legendary_zaden7898]

@@Mercurial. your literally racist we caught you lacking in the comments talking about black Americans

[@phillipschuman4307]

@@Mercurial. And the second highest total of 4 FMPs, breaking the tie of three with Magic, Shaq and Duncan. One of them, doing what had never been done, coming back from down 1-3 against a 73 win team, with two games on GSW home court, including game 7. All he did was score 41 two games in a row, and then get a triple double.

[@Pharez85]

How does Skip convince himself to believe his argument? 😭

[@thebabbler8867]

He's acting. He knows better in reality.

[@tanisboston8472]

" Everybody wants you to be successful, until you become successful" Uncle Shay spitting facts 💯

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Absolutely!

[@samjon6403]

LeBron sat the expectations for himself too high even before getting into the league. It's his fault

[@thegoat6325]

@@samjon6403 and surpassed them, lebron could retire right now as top two, top three all time. Stop hating

[@samjon6403]

@@thegoat6325 I don't think he's top 7 even. May be 8.

[@thegoat6325]

@@samjon6403 it doesn't matter what you think

[@Jharris509]

Skip last argument is always 2011 when he’s losing a debate 😂😂😂

[@Fluff23145]

Everybody's Smh

[@bboywolf]

I mean it was the worst sports meltdown of all time

[@Fluff23145]

@@bboywolf Nah, Clippers losing to Denver was 🤣🤣🤣 2011 is Second

[@matchhunter7012]

It is a Fact !!

[@bboywolf]

@@Fluff23145 no, lebron choking in the 4th quarter after mocking dirk for being sick

[@troyduffie3836]

This is the best I’ve ever seen Shannon.

[@asundelgun3487]

Kobe definitely didn't get the scrutiny LeBron gets but Kobe did get slammed a lot. And Kobe got compared to MJ too which also put wild expectations on him. Kobe got slammed for being selfish and not being a good leader. They also questioned his ability to shoot consistently earlier in his career

[@Btash97]

Kobe also committed a terrible crime. I don't like LeBron but if he did that it would end his career.

[@Mercurial.]

​@@Btash97 You mean like that LeBalco will end a fake made up clown basketball legacy of his 💉👀

[@Freebodybagz]

LEBRON moved to Miami and was immediately dubbed the most hated man in SPORTS How is it even a debate? 🤣😂

[@theglassesriley8229]

He joined the heat to win a ring or form something but after he won that ring he just left

[@mynutsonyourchin2806]

And where was Miami before Lebron, and Lebrons Miami team doesn’t compare to Durants warriors

[@yokill1233]

@@theglassesriley8229 he won two rings

[@victormorgan6820]

He should have stayed in Cleveland. Once Michael did started his winning run in the finals, he never lost. That’s a big difference than winning and losing. He was consistent. LJ is great, but he will never be MJ.

[@theglassesriley8229]

He wasn't trying to live in MJ shoes....nobody could fit those shoes the closest that came to that was the black mamba he said MJ was like his brother..u know what that means though?

[@gridirongod4207]

LeBron gets more slander/hate in one minute of social media than some HOFs get in their entire lives. For example, Grant Hill (HOF) gets 0.00000000000000000001% of the slander/hate LeBron gets. Like you don’t see no life trolls out there creating sock accounts of Grant Hill or bringing up any negative blemishes of his career ad nauseam or dedicating their daily lives to discredit his greatness.

[@dnice4145]

Get real, Grant Hill was never as high profile of a player like Lebron. Why even make the comparison?

[@kenanyahbenisrael8417]

@@dnice4145 You must be young. Every player that could play Mike’s style of ball, one on one, was considered the next Jordan...Grant Hill included. Rider, Stackhouse the list goes on and on

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

@@kenanyahbenisrael8417 none of those were called the chosen one before entering the league

[@honorfirst7506]

Who said Lebron got his parent killed, like they said about Jordan? It doesn’t get more abusive and slanderous than that.

[@kenanyahbenisrael8417]

@@GreaterThanSolomon Media did that...not Lebron. He was asking while in high school who his favorite player was..and like most he said Jordan

[@andredavis3350]

Shannon gets so frustrated with Skip's hard-headedness, and I don't blame him. It reminds me of when I'm trying to explain to my grandpa how to open his email.

[@zxcvfr4321]

Love Shannon's energy!!

[@Mercurial.]

Bec he was screaming and yelling when he gets emotionally BUTTHURT 😭

[@MaarSRT]

NBA Season just ended a few days ago. First Monday after back to the Jordan vs LeBron debates all summer 😂😂😂😂

[@elioenaiporto6881]

Love it 🤩

[@nbatalk714]

Bron is the Goat thats why … if he wasnt they wouldnt bother like how they dont bother kobe vs mj but say he was the closest to him.. bron been getting compared to mj since early in his career and has did and passed mj in a whole lot since then .. mj media would never put bron pass mj and im aware of that, but it aint a coincidence that lebron is still in the convo hes bouta be 20years in

[@OhSoDope23]

@@nbatalk714 what bron pass Jordan in total stats ??? The LeBron James goat conversation is only entertained by LeBron fans no one else

[@Christappedin]

@@nbatalk714 factuals

[@Christappedin]

@@nbatalk714 he been passed jordan my guy

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Shannon: "Everybody wants you to be successful until you become successful"

[@_doublea]

Saying Kobe was never criticized with a straight face is crazy

[@derrickjones1065]

Not as much as lebron at such a young age and live up to it. Kobe coming into the league was not the same as when LeBron came in. Point blank

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

Kobe was raked over the coals for 1 thing. Remember what that was?

[@user-mr762nobody]

Michael Jordan had sports analysis like Ahmad Rashad guys who talk the game without disgracing or discrediting players,, could you imagine Stephen a Smith and Skip dealing with Michael Jordan gambling? And hating on him like they hate on LeBron ?Smh back then the guys had a bit more class,, these newer guys should take some pages from the old guys books

[@phillipschuman4307]

He had FRIENDS covering up for him, to maintain their access and friendship, knowing how Jordan held a grudge.

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

@@phillipschuman4307 Look how Jordan did Barkley. Jordan has been & will always be a baby.

[@dnice4145]

​@@phillipschuman4307 you think nobody covers for Lebron, you think Lebron's a saint? Lol

[@dnice4145]

​@@fmbbeachbum8163 Jordan has right to chose who he wants be friends with like all adults do are you a child? He handled like a man told Barkley he didn't like what he said directly and discontinued their friendship with no further public whining like Charles.

[@mackhenry500]

Skip loves bringing up that sedated part 😭😭😭

[@LordBranniganThe]

Skip has his Skipisms, he usually uses them when he falters in his arguments

[@Mercurial.]

Bec it was THE TRUTH 😂 Why does so many Americans problem with a black mans TRUTH?!

[@taylorwallschlaeger5590]

people don't realize that it's because his teammate Delonte West ended up sleeping with Bron's mom

[@hmrhuang]

couldn't agree more. i'm not the biggest LBJ fan, but i acknowledge that he's one of the GOATS and his stats and achievements speak for themselves. and speaking as a father, i can't say enough good things about him as a role model for the NBA -- never gets into trouble and loves his wife, kids, and craft. you can't ask more from an honorable man than that!

[@bobsinclair8046]

unlike jordan who had scandal upon scandal😭

[@yoboyhowe91]

The part that trips me out most is people bash LeBron for making it to the Finals and losing.. But don’t look over the years Jordan couldn’t get there.. The scrutiny LeBron has faced his entire career until this day and hour of somebody hitting send on a Tweet 📲 is unparalleled.. There’s no comparison.

[@MrPangahas]

Coz historically the way to the Finals for Lebron has always been comparatively easy , below 500 teams and all. Jordan lost 1st rounds to a legendary Celtics team, its like if Lebron met the Spurs team in the first round.If you gonna claim for the throne of being the goat, your case should be compelling.Again if it comes down to being the greatest, all that matters is how many you've won being the main guy once you get there, just being there won't cut it.

[@lukabrezo]

TBF if Jordan could carry his team to a higher seed, he wouldn't have to play against the all time great Celtics. And lets not talk about teammates, Lebron had a terrible team when he arrived in Cleveland and still managed to carry them to a conference finals

[@MrPangahas]

@@lukabrezo See thats the point the teams at that Eastern conference was stacked it wasn't just the Celtics they had to contend with for a higher seed.The East during Lebrons early years was comparatively weaker, with just a couple teams having 50 wins or more every year, so its much easier to get a higher seeding.Doesnt matter if he had terrible teammates when majority of the East teams have worse lineup.

[@impacc4182]

@@MrPangahas the pistons, Celtics in the 2000s were weak? He faced the pacers on the heat which when to 7 games as well as the Celtics again in the early 2010s than in 2015 he loses Kyrie and love and battles both top seeds in both conferences and swept the number 1 seed in Atlanta. Than after losing Kyrie in 2018 he has the greatest playoffs run that was anything but easy as he faced the raptors who were the 1st seed and he swept them. Than again goes against the Celtics that goes 7 games all while having little to no help. Y’all say it was easy and a cakewalk because he’s done it consistently the lengths you bron haters go to discredit this man is pathetic

[@itskoota]

​@@MrPangahas you could say the same about the finals. Jordan was ALWAYS the favourite to win the finals therefore weak finals competition meaning easy cakewalk win. LeBron has been favourite only 3 times in all of his finals lol harder finals competition.

[@marc07112]

Charles Barkley said it best, LeBron James is the greatest sports story ever told, he did everything right.

[@poocrayon4588]

The story of a guy who changed teams multiple times for easier shots a winning? Oh yeah, inspirational story

[@CulEdz]

@@poocrayon4588 story about a boy raised by a teenage single mother in a poor neighborhood who became the face of the best basketball league in the world.

[@poocrayon4588]

@@CulEdz Big deal, loads of guys have made it from bad situations, it's hardly the greatest story ever told or even a remotely original story. The actual story of his career makes him a pretty unlikeable hero though. Don't remember the sports movies where the good guy swaps teams 4 times for an easier shot at winning and betrays all his orginizations who put faith in him .

[@thegoat6325]

@@poocrayon4588 after he won chips with each team. U forgot to add

[@thegoat6325]

@@poocrayon4588 jordan switched sports lmaooooo

[@demetriuspalmer2992]

Man listening to them debate about the GOAT 🐐 is hysterical and makes my day imo it's funny

[@xanderreimers4445]

I used to hella hate on the idea that bron was better, but I’ve accepted it, bron is better

[@oussamalaoulaou2681]

I got MJ the goat but man , the slander the attention that Bron got even before he got to the league that even his cavs teammates before the draft said he wouldn't dominate in the league . Hes been under the microscope since then and to exceed the expectations with higher succes being top 3 best player for 15 years , thats when you have to respect the mans greatness . You can hate him but you can never disrespect what he done .

[@johnwebb2442]

Thank you.

[@thegoat6325]

I got Lebron as the goat then Jordan

[@mayankingrevisited8815]

Because he picked the number 23 and was called the King

[@thegoat6325]

@@mayankingrevisited8815 kobe daddy wore 23 before jordan and every man is a King , no problems in that at all

[@mayankingrevisited8815]

@@thegoat6325 Be prepared for the scrutiny that comes with being a King

[@andrewgundy3045]

I’m an MJ guy as GOAT but Lebron is incredible and has exceeded all expectations. He for sure had to deal with more criticism with all the new avenues nowadays.

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

No he hasn’t exceeded expectations. He was the “chosen one” the one to replace Jordan. He’s barely top 7

[@theunknown7441]

You sir deserve my respect i hope all mj fan is like you

[@Christappedin]

@@GreaterThanSolomon u a goofy stop watching basketball lmao

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

@@Christappedin you a bronsexual, get some help lmfao

[@erictolbert5769]

@@GreaterThanSolomon as a Jordan guy that's a flat out lie,no player has spent half his career in the finals and PFS. If someone says he LeBron is the goat I have no problem with it. He most definitely sitting across from MJ. Jordan is my goat because of his individual greatness not because of 6-0. If that's the case Montana is 4-0 but do you call him the goat of QBs?

[@johnfransen1288]

jordan started in 84 before pippen he didnt won jack!!🤣 lmfao. it be facts tho. romanticized memory for most and other fanatics havent seen him play. he was nothing shy of greatness incarnated but not until he had pippen. look at kobe and shaq.. shaq and penny karl malone and stockton. lebron carried a no talent team to play offs and finals. but jordan was his rolemodel and paved the way as dr j and magic did for michael, respect talent and both players and just enjoy greatness in the making and be glad to see it happening in front of your eyes. ive seen both and im honored to have seen and seeing that talent.

[@PrinceCortezJones]

facts facts facts

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Here's my opinion, why can't people just enjoy their greatness without comparing them

[@SeanStiggers]

If only we all lived in a Fantasy World with Gold Brick Roads and Rainbow Roses.

[@ferchango6359]

Because people like Skip & Shannon spread negativity.

[@DrShwazz]

Because greatness is only appreciate when the player is retired.

[@ItsRoyal23]

Then this show wouldn’t exist 😂😂

[@nbagoats4819]

Tell Shannon that.

[@brandyhalabi819]

Always said, never seen an athlete like Lebron James get so criticized in everything from basketball to off tha court.. Of course Jordan endured that, but not at this level 🤯… Plus there was no social media like today.. If this man LBJ sneeze, ppl may say he did that wrong too lol smh… Skip is tha driving force at times n starts all kinda fires 🔥 lol

[@ferchango6359]

Tell me, would you like to get slandered when your Father just recently died? MJ endured that, everyone made crazy asf stories saying his gambling addiction got his father killed.

[@brandyhalabi819]

@@ferchango6359 Umm I said that he of course endured that as well, obviously n there was no social media back then.. But what did I say have anything to do with his fathers death May he R.I.P. And I know I hear what ya saying but I said Mike endured it too.. Don’t twist it bcuz EVERY SUPERSTAR GETS THAT from time to time, but Lebron gets criticized for almost everything. Again at times, SM hasn’t always been tha best for a lot of athletes.. And yes you got a point, unfortunately his father passed n I was so young when this happened, n watched his game(s) as I got older tha older ones, n I remember watching his championship runs as I got older.. Never seen MJ happy n sad at tha same time when he won his next rings, his Pop’s wasn’t by his side n anyone n everyone would want to be happy n as happy as MJ wanted to be, he was so sad n that was heartbreaking 💔

[@criticalthought4910]

@@ferchango6359 You’re a liar. Stop using broad generalizations like “everybody” was slandering Jordan, not a single major publication accused him of harming his father. That’s as idiotic as saying that “everybody” accused LeBron of sacrificing Kobe & GiGi. Conspiracy theorists always create these stories but it’s not everyone.

[@bboywolf]

@@criticalthought4910 no one said lebron did it, they think they were sacrificed for the Lakers... which was true.

[@codyschubert8165]

That dude loves the attention and brings a lot of it on himself because I believe he’s intelligent and calculated w every move he makes

[@noskillant6168]

"my man went to survivor island for 100 days and came out" had me dying mannnn

[@stevenperez590]

Damn! I'm a loyal undisputed fan..... I gotta say Shannon destroyed this argument for sure......

[@Mercurial.]

Bec he was screaming and yelling? 🤡

[@gosuckone5347]

Skip said he only goes this hard against LeBron because of Shannon. Is he really tryna convince people that Shannon was on first take with him?

[@erictolbert5769]

That's a lie,dude he was doing this before shay

[@kingeriq]

Yea he used to go crazy on Stephen a smith for defending lebron against him. Skip ain’t like it so he either had SAS removed or skip left first take.

[@saucykb4758]

Lebron is so good only micheal jordan can be used against him and it’s still close this shows how great he is.

[@jamalwilliams5044]

The powder toss is nxt lvl tho lol

[@RushDawgSXM]

Skip literally added to the slander with this🤦🏿‍♂️

[@asaplodog6923]

Duh I mean is this really even a question 😂 😂 Lebron is the most scrutinized and slandered man in all of sports

[@cedricasdfghjkl9151]

Fax

[@boogy1033]

Cristiano Ronaldo

[@bsp5689]

History next to maybe Ali

[@Ronaldothegoat0728]

It’s Ronaldo and it’s not even close 😂

[@irgelreal]

He is but that’s about it

[@kingk1623]

Yes he has and Jordan himself said that the athletes today are so scrutinized he wouldn't have taken it well

[@voldigaming8]

Shannon speaking Facts. Skip is out there tryna dramatize things when he has nothing to say

[@johnwebb2442]

At the end of the day, both Michael Jeffrey Jordan and LeBron Raymone James are two of the greatest basketball players of all time. They are the only two NBA players that is worth $billion+ from their on the court/off the court endeavors. Both are legends in their own right.

[@irgelreal]

💯

[@christiankarlcjgonzaga4622]

No....! It's MJ AND KOBE no other will belong...!!!😎👌

[@Encentivez]

Skip got bodied on this debate! And this is someone who has LeBron 2nd ALL TIME! But if Jordan had played in the social media era he would be looked at differently!

[@mike.cdn7212]

Skip and Stephen A are responsible for this scrutinized social media attention. It never had to be this way but ESPN First Take had the gasoline and matches to build this for the basketball culture.

[@jamesbrown2189]

lol MJ would make burner accounts and pull up after games talking abt how noobmaster22 called him fraudulent, so he dropped 50 the next night

[@CSIme]

And did!! He knew he did too. Lol

[@Encentivez]

@@jamesbrown2189 Lol exactly!!

[@Encentivez]

@@mike.cdn7212 💯

[@khalifa5756]

Skip is really that mad that he didn’t get that interview with lebron back in 08-09. He even said it that if that interview would have happened things would have been much different.

[@charmonique33]

I knew it was something like that

[@kungfukenny8098]

How would that change the fact that Lebron completely melted down against the Mavericks? I mean the dude was literally too scared to even TOUCH the basketball lol

[@ghost_in_the_robot]

@@kungfukenny8098 Stop with the revisionist history, bro

[@kungfukenny8098]

@@ghost_in_the_robot it’s not my fault you didn’t watch the 2011 playoffs

[@tylerhingleton8493]

@@kungfukenny8098 One bad playoff series doesn't diminish everything else he's done in his career, and there are many great players who've had a bad playoff series.

[@chase7662]

People always talk about to epic meltdown but don’t talk about the perseverance to push through and win 4 chips after that

[@phillipschuman4307]

Correct. People used to like the redemption stories. Fall down, fail, get back up, try harder and succeed is... bad now?

[@kylegrier281]

preach Shannon

[@ntnnot]

Skip says "his hand was forced" in reaction to Shannon coming on the show in 2016 and proclaiming LBJ is the GOAT. Yeah right... Skip's BS goes WAAYYYYY further back. One of the lowest moments is LBJ winning his 1st title with Miami while upping his production significantly from the previous year when Dirk and the Mavs beat them, and having been criticized by Skip and even others for a good year for coming up short. Averaged 29-10-7 in the series. And a triple double in the deciding game. The next morning you then had First Take with Stephen A and Skip talk about that game and LBJ's first title. Skip goes on for 6 minutes with backhanded compliments and again highlighting cherry picked shortcomings. Pathetic. Whether it's trolling for max reactions or a genuine take - doesn't matter. There are moments when you should just give the flowers if you're a stand up guy, instead of undermining someone when they don't deserve it / when the facts don't warrant it.

[@tiktokexposed898]

Couldnt have said it better

[@angey.purple4060]

Facts

[@kevenrowe2958]

Facts man

[@dezmonlindsey3588]

I’m looking for this clip and can’t find it I’m in shambles

[@bigmoven1250]

Skip got the Hater 🎩 of the year 🧧award for the last like 17 years or so the last one was Silky Johnson but after that kids I promise you skip been winning 🏆 🥇 dude is a mad hater frfr

[@BijanStewart]

Legit question for the masses.. would Skip Bayless still have this successful career if he was not allowed to talk about LeBron everyday?

[@BB13131313]

He was already successful before LeBron as a writer and journalist.. he would've still been successful with his transition to television, but there's no way he'd be in the exact spot that he's in today without LeBron.. if LeBron and Skip ever have a face to face conversation, the very first thing LeBron should say to Skip is "You're welcome."..

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

No

[@sosa8700]

@@BB13131313 Nah, if it wasn't LeBron it would have just been another player.

[@ChoppaYoCMB]

Yes

[@gndo9145]

He still had Brady, Tebow, the Cowboys, and others. Now a different way of saying that would be, would tv sports coverage be how it is now without skip's stance on lebron?

[@TheTemporalArbiter]

Skip just spent his whole response blaming lebron and shannon for him hating on lebron... next level 🤣

[@caliboi8415]

KOBE AND MJ NEVER CALLED THEMSELVES "THE GOAT"

[@tayshaunmoney4621]

Lebron called himself the goat after he came back 3-1 from the 73-9 warriors in the finals you wouldn't think your the goat

[@901Chris]

I’m not going to watch the video but I just want to applaud them for doing the same topic everyday in different ways 😂😂

[@charliehustle9779]

Lol. Seriously. I will say Skip did provide a little more insight into his Lebron rampage in this video.

[@FearFang1000]

🤣🤣

[@peskypesky]

I'm a Spurs fan, and Duncan is my guy...but LeBron has had an amazing career and even a former LeBron-hater like me acknowledges that.

[@ankeviousoliver4472]

Thank you. Glad you are a former hater. The man inspires many. MJ did also. I just love greatness period.

[@brentw0681]

understatement of the century

[@bryant888]

Respect for honesty bro

[@jaspersmith5097]

I respect the spurs but man they were boring too watch

[@no1uconnfann]

I’m a former Lebron hater as well. Jordan was my GOAT growing up and like Skip I couldn’t handle the thought of anyone being greater. I hated the late great Kobe (RIP) until I realized he wouldn’t get six. I hated Lebron for most of his career. I finally realized that the goal post is always moved when it comes to his greatness. A 73 win team had to go get KD to beat a HEALTHY Lebron led team. Jordan never faced the teams Lebron faced in the Finals.

[@aro245]

jordan shot 7-22 and had 8 turnovers in 1 of the games in the 1995 playoff series vs the magic. in another game in that series jordan shot 9-24 and had 6 turnovers. you forgot that skip?

[@Rex-mj1qb]

Here is why skips logic basically proves that lebron is either goat or 2nd. Lebron has a 4-6 record in the finals. But he had an injured team in 15, and that is the excuse skip used for KD not winning. So 4-5 lebron had a way worse team in 17-18. 4-3. In conclusion lebron good

[@jesseheitman9883]

So is tweeting out “LeGone” every hour Shannon’s fault too?

[@lmelotti1089]

Thank You Shannon.

[@Philly_s_Best]

"How mentally tough are you if you leave the game twice?" Drops the mic...

[@dailynnsp.o.v]

For the ones who reads this just know this is only the beginning keep pushing, grinding, and fighting. Whatever it is in life you want to do to go after it life is to short. Life is a marathon not a sprint so go out there and live it up I hope all is well and goes well for you peace and one love.🙏🏽

[@SeanStiggers]

🙏🏾

[@sensei_...]

Could you imagine Lebron saying in his prime im quitting, and then coming back. Everybody would slander him to death

[@donovanprice3321]

Not if he had just three peated brought USA basketball back to respectability by competing in the Olympics and globalized the game and also brought in billions from new TV deals being the face of basketball…Lebron didn’t do any of that so if he would’ve done that of course it wouldn’t be looked at the same by his first retirement Jordan damn near did everything bron has now…context is everything

[@colewrld901]

Not if he 3 peated and lost his mother, like Jordan lost his father in 93 🤷

[@sensei_...]

@@donovanprice3321 lebron was and is the face of the nba since 2007

[@donovanprice3321]

@@sensei_... Lebron didn’t do any of those things I just mentioned the money that they are making now is STILL due to MJs influence are you mad

[@barefootcatfishjones944]

He shuda quit that was All his Mothers fault and yall know why

[@joshualayfield768]

Shannon spitting straight facts and Skip whole argument 🗑

[@frankiefernandez9225]

ANOTHER LEBRON EXCUSE😂😂😂👎

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Those old enough to remember Kobe got slandered all time especially after the Lakers traded Shaq they said Kobe would never win as the main guy and he doesn't care about winning and Lakers picked the wrong guy.

[@ummok720]

No one talks about the fact how kobe lakers have to play against the spurs just to get out of the western conference. Lebron only competition only comes from the finals.

[@adamjones1086]

Not more than LeBron… and it’s not even really up for debate

[@Dotsetc]

@@adamjones1086 Lol half the NBA's stadiums shouted 'KOBE SUCKS' during entire REGULAR SEASON games let alone playoffs. Dead sure you were young asf when Kobe played to say it's not up for debate because Lebron never experienced that ish. Look up 'KOBE SUCKS' commercial.

[@1JAM229]

@@ummok720 Exactly! Tim Duncan's Spurs made it to the Finals 6 times. They can't *both* make it. That level of competition was insane.

[@owtkvst]

@@Dotsetc U think NBA fans haven’t chanted that about LeBron? Lol. Think about all the people who legit will create accounts on Social media JUST to blast LeBron. It’s dudes with names out here like “LeChina” and “LeBum 4-6” and “Le3-6on” as their names. I ain’t never seen anything like that for Kobe. Not to mention the daily sports shows on TV and dudes like Skip who have built an entire career around slandering LeBron at any chance they get. No player has had that on them. Maybe Kobe would have gotten more hate if he was in his prime during the social media age, but to say he legit has faced just as much hate is nonsensical.

[@bayodaman]

SKIP is the ring leader of all the twitter trolls. I bet you if Lebron talked to Skip as much as Jordan did he would be singing a different tune.

[@alex9xela]

"...if you actually beleived that to be true" - Shannon "Holmes" Sharpe

[@ilivelifegrand]

skip is quite literally proving this debate/topic lol

[@georgeclyde7904]

Yes on the court… I’m team Jordan…. But show me the athlete that’s ever been expected to do so much and been under the kind of scrutiny the Lebron has been under. And despite that… he’s love it or hate it… he’s succeeded and exceeded!!! Period!

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

No he hasn’t, he was marketed as the new goat and failed

[@georgeclyde7904]

@@GreaterThanSolomon Perspective.

[@makesmartTROYces]

@@secoTheSonicFan example please

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

@@georgeclyde7904 factual perspective

[@anthonyjones2392]

@@GreaterThanSolomon facts

[@ZelgiusSZN]

“Old restaurant, but ya brought the same recipes” 😭

[@terrancequarterman1780]

Oh Skip your view on the g.o.a.t. argument is totally on point! I completely 💯 agree!

[@Heehee902]

It’s so obvious lebron the goat but everyone grew up on mj and he was just flashier and oh yeah the Jordan shoe is 85 percent why people call him goat

[@SALLEY99]

Thank you Shannon!! MJ was drafted in 1984.. his career didn’t start in 91’.. keep the same energy with MJ like y’all do Lebron

[@bobbymoore2076]

Ok, jordan played less time and has done more than bron, I don't get what u saying

[@timmyharrison9930]

Lebum drafted in 03, his career didn’t start until 2011. You lebum fans are a big part of the problem

[@packboyripps1622]

MJ 6 - 0 👍 LJ 4 - 6 👎

[@SALLEY99]

@@timmyharrison9930 you sound stupid Asf

[@SALLEY99]

@@packboyripps1622 why does that matter? He went to the finals 9 of the 10 years straight

[@johnjovanovichwick4194]

Once again Shannon destroy Skip what happened ‘84, ‘85, ‘86, ‘87, ‘88, ‘89, ‘90 🤷‍♂️ y’all hold EVERY SINGLE year of LeBron’s career against him what happens to jordan? Also what happened in his later year in Washington since LeBron’s later years are being held to the same standard as year 9 LeBron? 😂😂😂🤷‍♂️👂👂 keep that same energy

[@ferchango6359]

We kept that same energy, & guess what the loser didn't even make the Play-Ins

[@karimseifull2474]

@@ferchango6359 and jordan played 13 seasons and only made the finals 6 times. So sad. Bron went to 10 in 9 years. Bron better. Clown

[@NYGForever]

Jordan never left the team that drafted him like Lebron did when things weren’t going his way early on 🤷‍♂️

[@karimseifull2474]

@@NYGForever ha so. What does that have to do with winning. Take a seat boy. Yal salty Bron won with every team and changed the NBA and made it for players to play with who they want. Get over it

[@brandonmoyd2942]

Lebron in the 2010’s dominated the conference Jordan in the 90’s dominated the conference & FINALS🐐 it’s levels to this silly kids, Bron simply isn’t on Jordan’s level

[@jefferySuperstar]

Agreed With Shannon ✊🏾 400%

[@Trefeezy]

Don’t lift that arm to high Shannon for you rip the shoulder lining in that suit!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrLostinthefog]

Skip is the definition of the old man who says my era was the best and there is nothing you can say that will convince me it was not. While he watches the flying cars pass by him. True definition of a old hater

[@sandrastewart7544]

I am going to use this..... great one ...rotfl😁😁🤣🤣

[@RetroEternal]

Nah, Jordan was just a whole different animal. Better career AND better player than Bron. Better scorer, defender, finisher, footwork, handles, etc Jordan was a more efficient Kobe.

[@mtdubdachamp6917]

I’m so over this debate but only when other shows do it, it’s never a dull moment when these two do it, the goat debate show 😂🤷🏾‍♂️💯

[@aceocean3450]

Shannon getting better with the debating style

[@elburonando1104]

Sharpe…. Skip outweighs you on the debate. Everything skip talks about is truth. Brother, we could hear it in the tone of your voice. Good thing he didn’t mention 2 gold and collage championships. . It’s not even close. U no Dis!!!!

[@bradadamson4521]

Shannon you made very good and well thought out points that any reasonable person would agree with. Good job 👏

[@1JAM229]

"He stays healthy." That was true, but since joining the Lakers, not so much. I hope he can make it through a full season next time, though.

[@nbatalk714]

Getting old all those miles

[@GreaterThanSolomon]

Doubt it, he only did it once his career

[@mrtravelalot166]

@16:00 facts

[@anthonysales5924]

Because social media.

[@anthonymo4846]

Shannon owns skip in 98 percent of segments

[@cotati76]

MJ never told anybody he was the greatest of all time. Everybody just knew it. No comparison whatsoever.

[@tylerhingleton8493]

Popular opinion doesn't mean factual, and he's not the only player in that conversation. There are many great players before him who don't think he's the greatest ever.

[@cotati76]

He’s the greatest. Just look at what he accomplished. I was lucky enough to to see him play the warriors twice and he absolutely crushed them. More finals wins with no losses. Way more scoring titles. DPOY the list goes on and on. And yes there’s lots of other great players. Kareem is better than Lebron. Why do people think being called the second or third great player to live is a slap in the face? There have been thousands of players. To be in the top ten is a huge honor. Calling yourself the GOAT is a sure fire way to show you aren’t.

[@heatnix3223]

1. Wilt 2. Jordan 3. Lebron close to factual my guy!

[@brentw0681]

LeBron has been in those debates for over 5 years and hes still playing lmaoooooo

[@wussrestbrook1200]

@@heatnix3223 anyone before 1980 doesn’t count

[@donaldanderson6408]

skip knows what he's been doing to lebron 1) no clutch gene 2) took power toss from mj

[@torranceclay5131]

To answer the question yes!!!!

[@mb5030]

Just the fact that Lebron has never recognised Skip not even once is in itself why he is the GOAT !

[@irgelreal]

Lebron is top 10 he’s a goat

[@harshmoor2280]

If rather make it to the finals and losing, than getting knocked out before than. When you talk about Jordan and how he played, yeah LeBron isn't in that conversation because they are completely different players. Goat conversation, LeBron definitely deserves to be there. So LeBron looked up to someone and copied some of their habits? How dare he, nobody else ever did that.

[@miguelledesma512]

Imagine if the rumors of Michaels dad assassination was due to Jordans gambling problems would surface during the social media era I would think that would affect his playing

[@phillipschuman4307]

And if a Skip type hammered it constantly.

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

His dad was a causualty of Jordan's gambling without question.

[@Losmarcellalmighty]

Ya totally forgot that kg used to do that powder toss

[@mrplucky21]

Damn.. so it's all Shannon's fault skip's hated on LeBron for his entire career... ok.. got it!

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

"Twitter says that he's the most talked about on Twitter" 💯

[@ThEBookOfSwantEGawD]

westbrook & harden wayyy more foh