LeBron's path to greatness was just as hard, if not harder, than MJ's - Shannon I NBA I UNDISPUTED

When talking GOATS of the NBA, the conversation always starts and ends with Michael Jordan and LeBron James. However, LeBron’s agent, Rich Paul, gave one argument why he's siding with the King, recently saying quote: 'The road for LeBron was just as hard, if not harder than the road was for Michael.' Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe debate whether they agree with Paul or not.
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LeBron's path to greatness was just as hard, if not harder, than MJ's - Shannon I NBA I UNDISPUTED
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[@UndisputedOnFS1]

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[@MALLYGEEZ1]

Lol MJ never had to worry about a comparison?...this is a strawman that people are saying people want lebron to do it like MJ. Lebron did it the soft way. He joined superteams and still got butchered most of the time. He has only gotten any blame in the 11 series. When lebron his quit on his team in multiple series. Lebron ran through a weak East on mostly superteams. Lebron is a media goat.

[@WHENWEGONEWIN]

Bro GOD WOULDVE DONE THAT KILLED ME

[@cortomaltese7171]

A guy who created 3 super teams, quit, and left every time for fresh new blood had a tougher road than a guy who got what he got and grew together with that team until become the ultimate champion? Clowns from Klutch and ESPN are shameless. Are you f.... normal?

[@JavochiJoeTV]

Ion wanna talk bout personality, but this day in age social media, mills to the 9th in the rotation, Lebron is gifted in being personable, and I feel like Jordan would have more enemies, and be a bad guy in this era

[@dpeezyfire8477]

I agree

[@DMLGhoops]

It’s amazing how this show comes back to this exact same topic at least once a month

[@iMixMaSteR1]

Im sure we'll get a Tom Brady update sometime next week.

[@auburnmann3630]

Once a week

[@wednerpierre1191]

How can you stop talking about greatness?

[@drewramsey9034]

Come on, we all know it's at least once a week

[@martinfilmstudios5743]

NBA lounge does too

[@mattmcadam4641]

Imagine being retired all these years and still being the number 1 topic on this show🤦🏻‍♂️

[@stanleymendoza866]

dont watch it then 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@larryminzy]

Tells you how good MJ really was

[@ricktrombley5235]

In 25 years everyone will be compared to lebron

[@mig6pie]

@@ricktrombley5235 just ask yourself, who’s selling more sneakers? The player who retired 2 decades ago or the one currently playing?

[@cwavvvy3450]

@@mig6pie whose are being worn for there original purpose?

[@musclemorph_96tequan34]

“Same hair style, same complexion, same build. Even the teeth were exactly the same” 😂😂😂😭😭💀💀💀

[@davidtownsend2498]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@XPXhumble]

I bet it’s a blonde

[@bendoverho842]

They was dating the same chick 😂

[@jessiegipson5837]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ryanmayes216]

This man is wild I love it

[@afitzpatrick2050]

Idk why people still argue over this. If you're team MJ, nothing is going to change that and the same goes for team Lebron. For everyone that was alive to see Jordan play and are still alive to see Lebron play should appreciate this moment, we got to witness the two greatest NBA players in history so far

[@marlowstanfield6815]

The 2 greatest NBA players are Michael Jordan and Kareem

[@mattpassos5689]

@@marlowstanfield6815 MJ, LBJ, Kareem/Wilt, Bill Russell, Magic

[@willxkingmusic]

Because we are all dumb enough to keep watching it haha 😂

[@marlowstanfield6815]

@@mattpassos5689 LeBron is not better than Kareem at all, he needs 2 more championships and another mvp to pass Kareem. Also Wilt and Russell played in a 8 team league so they are disqualified do to lack of competition. An Magic isn't even better than Kobe. LeBron is arguably 3rd greatest all time..

[@t.h.8]

You couldn't of said any better than that!

[@istvandejesus]

Are you serious? Of course James has it harder. Jordan set the bar extremely high. 😂

[@onepiece6529]

🤣🤣

[@pablinkz]

Bingo🎯

[@SignalCorps1]

Most of the time I side with Unc, but Skips right about Jordan being the GOAT

[@darrelkirtsch6767]

LeBron James is to Kevin Durant as MJ is to....Clyde Drexler? Compare KD and Drexler, will tell you who had to face better players 😂

[@singerlee4446]

@@darrelkirtsch6767 facts. they don't want to have that conversation. this not about jordan raising no bar, as great as he was, he never played an all time great team in the finals, not once. lebron met an all time great team 7 out of the ten times he's been to the finals. played spurs 3 times, led by arguably the 2nd/3rd best coach ever, played warriors 4 times, lead by a unanimous mvp and a 73-9 regular season record, then had to face that team WITH KD....jordan greatest comp was celtics and pistons, he never beat larry bird in one playoff game, and didn't beat the pistons until they were old and the NBA changed the rules regarding flagrant fouls

[@SunriseSmoothie1991]

This conversation will never end. Two separate eras. Let them be.

[@offspringfan1288]

All scripted. Skip is Team Brady/Team Jordan. Shannon is Team Rodgers/Team Lebron James It’s all about the ratings.

[@GoogIe_sheets]

@@offspringfan1288 exactly lol they always have polar opposite views

[@SunriseSmoothie1991]

@@offspringfan1288 Well said.

[@williesmith7148]

OMG CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT OTHER NBA PLAYERS THAT'S ACTUALLY WINNING GOOD GRIEF

[@toxicstilljd2492]

no

[@williesmith9638]

FACTS WILLIE SMITH

[@rjrm4978]

Watch somethin else fool 🤣

[@aaronbragg994]

Lol.. very true.. oh yea I forgot the lakers are under .500 good point

[@williesmith7148]

@@toxicstilljd2492 🤣🤣🤣

[@buddharocks492]

Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Kevin Love, AD, Westbrook, Dwight Howard. Nothing else needs to be said

[@234Tbaby]

Make sure you say out of their primes

[@NoMask23]

You say anything nun of them dudes was in they prime but Ad

[@DAS63]

You forgot Carmelo Anthony! And what about the GOAT Alex Caruso?!

[@cortomaltese7171]

A guy who created 3 super teams, quit, and left every time for fresh new blood had a tougher road than a guy who got what he got and grew together with that team until become the ultimate champion? Clowns from Klutch and ESPN are shameless.

[@tilemahosmichos8351]

@@cortomaltese7171 what do you mean he got what he got?? He had the best players in his team compare to the other teams.all the other teams had 2-3 good players ( no one better than pippen) and bulls had 6-7.when you play in the finals against lakers ( the easiest) pippen was way better than magic and worthy( was injured magic was old).then seattle.pippen was better than kemp payton.then against suns.pippen was better than barkley kevin johnson.against portland.pippen was better than drexler porter.then jazz.pippen was better than stocton maybe we have a comparison against carl malone.also the other players were better.remember kukoc rodman grant etc.think lebron who play against??many of the players you mention were injured they didnt play.irving love wade( play but he was injured he coulldnt help the second time against spurs) davis etc.he went many times in the finals with best teammate ilgauskas or delavedova etc.what are you talking about.stop listen stories

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

The fact that we are still talking about MJ to this day just tells you that MJ is the Goat

[@100ovrbatmanbron7]

or that he’s one of the goats.

[@purplepanther3585]

People still talk about wilt so by ur logic wilt is by far the goat

[@jonathanjames-patterson5403]

He’s one of them we will be talking bout 30 years from now too

[@iMixMaSteR1]

@@purplepanther3585 Nobody is talking about Wilt.

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

Micheal Jordan played five seasons without Scottie Pippen 84-85 38-44..First round exit 85-86. 30-52..First round exit 86-87. 40-42...First round exit 01-02. 37-45..out of playoffs 02-03. 37-45..out of playoffs In the year before Micheal Jordan and LeBron James joined their team and the year after they left their team, their records were 83-84 bulls 27-55 84-85 bulls. 38-44 92-93 bulls 57-25 93-94 bulls 55-27 98-99 bulls 13-37 without Scottie Pippen 00-01 wizards 19-63 01-02 wizards. 37-45 02-03 wizards 37-45 03-04 wizards 25-57 02-03 cavaliers 17-65 03-04 cavaliers 35-47 09-10 cavaliers 61-21 10-11 cavaliers 19-63 09-10 heat. 47-35 10-11 heat 58-24 14-15 heat 37-45 2013-14 cavaliers 33-49 2014-15 cavaliers 53-29 2017- 18 cavaliers 50-32 2018-19 cavaliers 19-63 2017-18 lakers. 35-47 2018-19 lakers were 20-14 when LeBron James got injured on Christmas day. As you can see When LeBron James joins a team, the team improves more than Michael Jordan and when LeBron James leaves a team, the team always goes into the tank. Micheal Jordan, excluding the 94-97 seasons, when the NBA moved the three point line to 22 feet, was a career 28% three point shooter. LeBron James is a career 34% three point shooter Micheal Jordan was a great defensive player, in an Era where you could handcheck. Playing defense is much easier when you can handcheck. For nearly 6'9 250 LeBron James' entire career he wasn't afforded the opportunity to handcheck. THE EVIDENCE IS CLEAR..LEBRON JAMES IS THE GOAT!!!!!

[@rooseveltheath]

Stop these comparisons MJ had six championship rings and never had to leave his team to get them

[@joshuasutton983]

So would MJ had won 6 championships with LeBron’s Cavaliers team?

[@brandone.5106]

@@joshuasutton983 which one? The one with Kyrie? Yes.

[@GreatestEver_91]

Preach! 🙌🏻 all these blind witnesses that still think Lebron is the GOAT amazes me of how slow some people can be 😂 the league that MJ was in was much harder than how it was when Lebron has been in it and Kobe won 5 championships and never left the Lakers to get them, he was loyal to the end just like MJ 👌🏻 same goes for Tim Duncan who won 5 with the spurs 😉

[@andrewthomas4128]

How long did it take for him to get those 6

[@resteasy8876]

Imagine if lebron have better role players back then he could've few titles and dominate the east and smacked the celtics big 3

[@pruuf1]

I legit thought Shannon was gonna win this argument till Skip started actually being logical. More people will remember MJs era more than Westbrook

[@pong8138]

Not until everyone that saw MJ play dies.

[@goatjames328]

Legoat 👑 🐐! Shannon won, like always!

[@sharodecheek]

They won’t cause how they gonna remember something they ain’t seen or grew up watching?

[@luv2ruck770]

You can literally watch full games of Jordan playing. He isn't as special as everyone says.

[@mrwakeupjacob4647]

@@luv2ruck770 then why aren't you the goat

[@kerhin]

Yes, Shannon joining a tean with two other superstars and weakening the Eastern Conference is a tougher path.

[@dee-jl6fi]

What Kevin Durant did plus Jordan have 0 rings without Pippen

[@cojack636]

Well Jordan didn't have to, because his gm/front office built a super team around him.

[@erikpuka2627]

@@dee-jl6fi Pippen was a poor mans Paul George who shot way worse than him. What he ever did in his career without Jordan ? He didn't make an all star team in his last 7 years

[@julianedgar2182]

@@erikpuka2627 he was a game a way from the finals without Jordan. What did Jordan do without pippen?

[@erikpuka2627]

@@julianedgar2182 he was never a game away from no Finals. Foh In 1995 Pippen was the 10th seed and MJ had to come and save the season

[@cyber6sapien]

Wait... so Jordan was never in the shadow of Bird and Magic? 🤔

[@leogolive]

My thoughts exactly.

[@notcoolkev3770]

They talk like Jordan was crowned goat as soon as he got in the league.

[@johnsach4156]

He was pretty much the best player as soon as he entered the league so no his teams were in their shadows not him.

[@804dj9]

@@johnsach4156 no he wasnt Magic and Bird ran the league until they got old and then Mj took over

[@notcoolkev3770]

@@johnsach4156 Larry bird won mvp in 84, 85 and 86.. magic won in 87. Jordan didn’t win his first until 88. Magic won again back to back in 89 and 90. Jordna even said he didn’t get respect that magic and bird got until he won his first championship.

[@amielcharcos3384]

Man this “comparison” between “Black Jesus” and “King James” doesnt get old. Every milestone LBJ unlocked goes back to MJ...wow...does that not show how excellent MJ was?🤷🏽‍♂️

[@gear4thkwam24]

Fr

[@sammycordahi9327]

How does it go back to MJ? He’s been surpassed by bron in many milestone. He holds onto scoring chips and chips now

[@youcantknoweveragain2364]

But it doesn't

[@brianmayabella5992]

@@sammycordahi9327 rules changes benefits LBJ. Im a fan of LBJ, i rooted for his career also. 80s and 90s era were trashtalkin, injury prone hard fouls, hand checkin, bully, high pressure defense. These weakass era, you could be MJ in these era. Patrick Ewing said so. If you pay attention only to stats, then Wilt Chamberlain u should look into. 100pts, made so many rules changes bcoz of him

[@sammycordahi9327]

@@brianmayabella5992 I hear that. I just think that’s ridiculous to think about because of the physical specimen lebron is. More contact would just be more of an advantage for him. Imagine this 6’9” 260 hand checking on perimeter defense? That’s wild he was locking up prime d rose. Wilt was 7’2” playing against 6’8” centers so those numbers are astronomical but need to have a bit of context

[@franklin9613]

My eyes don't lie. I grew watching M.J and I watch Lebron now. LeBron has never crossed my mind as being on the level of M.J ever. Stats don't lie either.

[@rayrobinson9064]

Real Talk

[@remus5094]

Most of the stats points to Lebron tho

[@brandonw6139]

@@remus5094 totals yes, because he's played longer. Per game stats don't

[@kerhin]

@@remus5094 if it was about stats than Kareem and Wilt would be considered the GOAtT. When choosing whose the GOAT you have consider skills, mentality, leadership, teammates, accomplishments, competition, era, and ability to perform under pressure. Using these criteria’s, we have to say Michael was a far superior player than LeBron.

[@AATWT11]

@@brandonw6139 yeah they do. The only thing Jordan did better per game was get 3 more points on worse efficiency. Jordan did nothing else better.

[@TheShadow84]

Ben Wallace wasn't on that Pistons team in 07. Old washed Chris Webber & Jason Maxiell were stuck to deal with Bron in the 4th quarter coming in the paint.

[@werhoopstv3960]

But he definitely played Wallace and gave them wreck when he was there

[@waliahmad3030]

Jordan's first title was against the Lakers without Kareem and most of the series James Worthy wasn't even playing. So that team was washed for the most part but ppl still like to say MJ beat the showtime Lakers which he didn't. His record against Kareem and Magic was laughable.

[@Colinn]

@@waliahmad3030 James worthy player all But 1 game that playoffs and averaged 40 minutes a game…please at least attempt to research what you say. Magic led the Lakers in the playoffs with 21.8 ppg 8.1 rpg and 12.6 ast. Safe to say Magic was quite effective.

[@robertwilson9528]

@@waliahmad3030 whats lebron record against steph curry and tim duncan?

[@Colinn]

@@waliahmad3030 by the way…Magic was 31 years old that year and was the second oldest player on the team (averaged more ppg than Scottie) ; Worthy, Scott, and Perkins were 29, and all averaged more ppg than 25 yr old Horace Grant individually. 27 yr old Michael Jordan with 31 ppg 8 apg and 6 rpg was a premier player finally taking his team to the top in a gauntlet eastern conference and NBA championship

[@fundy023]

Shannon lost this argument because he kept moving the goal posts. "How many Hall of Famers on that Knicks team? The Celtics Lebron played had 3 and maybe 4". Skip, "How many did the 80s Celtics have?" Shannon, "But he supposed to be the GOAT!". Point of order: Those Celtics had 6 Hall of Famers. Shannon keeps talking about how many Hall of Famers were on Golden State. How many did he have to face to get there? Jordan faced the Celtics 6, the Pistons 3, Knicks had one. Shaq, a well on his way before injury Penny. Clyde, Magic, Worthy, Barkley, should be in KJ, Stockton, Malone, Payton, Reggie. How many Hall.of Famers did not win titles because of Michael and how many did not win because of Lebron?

[@murkcobain4710]

He never beat that Celtics team tho. That's what Shannon was saying, name the Hofrs on the teams he beat on his Ship runs Lol

[@murkcobain4710]

11-23 Record (0-6 in playoffs) Jordan managed to win 11 out of 34 games vs Bird, mainly due to the fact that Jordan did not have much of a crew behind him when they faced off. Jordan put up a historical 63 points against a famed Celtics team led by Larry Bird.

[@everythingelse3950]

@@murkcobain4710 why you didn't say it on lebron on '10 bruh wtf Jordan can't beat magic and bird at their apex can 72-10 bulls beat 73-9 warriors no one come back over the greatest regular season team on finals

[@CJStunna1]

You make it seem like the league isn’t more talented. Mike never beat anyone on the level of Duncan, KD, Steph etc. Larry Bird was COOKING MJ, Isiah Thomas was COOKING Mike. Mike beat a sick Magic, old IT, and old Larry Bird and Celtics.

[@wintermelowns7749]

@@CJStunna1 so its like saying he beat the puppy trio of oklahoma city, and then won a close game vs spurs because ray allen saved his legacy, beat an injured steph, injured bogut, in game 5 suspended draymond? that logic applies only to someone who likes downing people to save lebrons legacy. he won 4 titles and 4mvps and final mvps but at the same time he got swept in the finals twice and got slapped hard by dallas old squad.

[@i11egaltaco8]

MJ doesn’t have to say he’s the GOAT and LeBron has to remind everyone.

[@hunterpendley7723]

I think Lebron is a pretty insecure person. everything he does reeks of it.

[@chuckiebomaye3725]

Wow all I ever see is Jordan on commercial pointing at his rings wtf you been at go find one time lebron did that

[@Tre3x777]

@@chuckiebomaye3725 “that moment right their made me the greatest player of all time” Lebron on 2016 finals. Jordan:*points at his six rings. Nothing more. So really. Who’s bragging ?

[@chuckiebomaye3725]

@@Tre3x777 Jordan is he throw shots every time he in front of a mic

[@trillogymusic8128]

@@Tre3x777 If it's about rings should we really call MJ the goat?

[@TheBamaPrinceable]

The fact that sports media keeps feeling the need to have this discussion proves LeBron isn't the GOAT. I mean who are they trying to convince? Us or themselves?

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

Jordan ain't the goat either, no one is.

[@Dotsetc]

That's right my man. If he actually was the greatest, you'd have media members constantly mentioning it, coaches mentioning it, players constantly mentioning it(since most players that played in the 80's and 90's even Bird and Magic long before they retired called MJ the GOAT while the GOAT before him was still playing known as Kareem Abdul Jabbar. The fact that the majority of people do not mention him as the greatest isnt hate. The majority just doesnt think he is the greatest simple as that. Nobody that's actually the greatest has to be 'vouched for' to be the greatest. People never vouched for MJ being the greatest because especially people who grew up watching MJ and then went on to see all those all time greats of which Lebron is one of them, 9 out of 10 times say MJ is the greatest. The majority of the people who do think he's the greatest are mostly fans who havent even seen the prime of Tim Duncan or Kobe let alone MJ and people like Shannon who have built their entire media careers around talking about Lebron. I think the grand majority of people who do not see Lebron as the GOAT honestly darn well know how incredible Lebron is. They just do not think he's the GOAT.

[@Dotsetc]

Added I mean look at Shannon saying that 'only MJ gets praise for losing a finals'. Not true. Jerry West literally got a FMVP losing the finals and the reason why MJ gained praise is because he had a horrible team vs the best team in the league who had 4 All Stars type players(basically comparable to GS) and dropped not any performance but the GREATEST SINGLE SERIES PERFOMANCE in NBA history with the MOST POINTS IN NBA HISTORY in only his second full season in the league. Except for some childish haters I also have seen nobody portray Lebron's performance with only a barely healthy Kevin Love against Golden State as 'meh'. The difference is that he did that for one game in the series. MJ burned down on the Celtics every single game averaging 43 points overall nearly as much as that one game of Lebron who was actually in his prime unlike Jordan. Jordan faced his GS in the first round in only his second season, without any help, breaking the scoring record for both a series and a game. That's the difference. Doesnt mean Lebron doesnt get praised for that game vs GS. Honestly that was the game he actually gained his praise from a lot people who never praised him.

[@jordangoat2654]

@@Ghost-rb6cw jordan is number 1 LeBron is number 4

[@solidgecko]

Doesn't prove LBJ isn't the goat, it's about # of views, this is business

[@alleonecrazywatchtv4006]

I know this for a fact, Lebron was driving a Hummer in high school !!!

[@amalshakur]

Right!

[@thexannyphantom5532]

Ugh🤦🏾‍♂️ already miss football season. Gotta wait so long.

[@klewis564]

8:50 “How he miss the shot to win in overtime? God wouldn’t have done that” 😭😭🤣

[@jiraiyasensei4875]

RIGHT😂🤣🙉🤫

[@jasondakidd882]

God wouldn't have gotten swept either

[@jays4113]

Shannon trying way too hard micheal Jordan will be forever better than lebron

[@youcantknoweveragain2364]

@@jays4113 Even Jordan said otherwise

[@justthisguy1948]

@@youcantknoweveragain2364 lebron is an all time great but there is nothing he can do now to pass Jordan that ship has sailed

[@noteminemsburneraccount324]

Bruh Shannon really making the fact mj went to college into a bad thing.... bruh LeBron had a 4 year head start and still hasn't eclipsed jordan

[@mont-doggBeats]

And even in college Michael hit a game winner as a freshman in college to win a championship there too 😂😂

[@dg23457]

So leaving and joining/building a team with two other superstars 3 different times and going through a way easier Eastern conference was harder? Mike stayed with ONE team and played with one other all star which was Scottie Pippen who was drafted by the Bulls and then they traded for Dennis Rodman and the rest were role players. That Bulls team was built organically just like the Warriors of today, he didn’t build teams and join superstars to win. I don’t wanna hear that LeBron's path was harder when time and time again he’s chose the "Join a super team and win" route and still has only got him 4 rings. He's lucky to have 2 of those (Ray Allen shot and Miami losing two of their best players the first game in the 2020 Finals and still taking them to game 6)🤷‍♂️

[@terrellcannon8549]

Preach 🙌🏾

[@moeketsimolai7374]

Was not a way easier eastern conference...everyone seems to forget that MJ feasted in an era with 6 expansion teams... that means there was about 100 guys in the NBA who got to play that previously wouldn't have been good enough ..facts

[@MrBezl]

How does leaving a horrible managed team make Lebron worse or having a easier path. MJ couldn’t win a playoff series until they got him other superstars. Lebron dragged a bunch of scrubs to the finals and got swept. MJ had good management that brought him good players. Do you really think if Lebron had MJ’s roster he would have left?

[@ItsBlazeVibes]

Bro really said pippen was an all star and rodman was a role player, tell me you didn't watch the bulls without telling me you didn't watch the bulls.

[@GoldTop57]

@@moeketsimolai7374 Most of Lebron’s career the East was known to be a joke. This is not conspiracy. It was plain conversation on any major sports outlet.

[@therealkid617]

Pressure is based on the individual…

[@cobrachannel100]

Shannon, how many HOFs in Washington, Atlanta, Orlando, Indiana, Toronto, Charlotte, etc that Lebron feasted the entire time in the East???

[@ThePatman1980]

How come Kareem can't be praised enough? He made the Finals 10 times too like LeBron and won 6 of them. Didn't need to seek other stars from other teams to help him win rings.

[@bellandzoey]

Tru tho, Kareem didn't need to seek other stars; other stars sought him

[@felipe5955]

Lmao he played with magic Johnson. I think Kareem had enough help bro

[@unkownfigure850]

he played with plumbers tho …

[@sempiternalpp9841]

bro played against part time car technicians

[@JOK3RC4RDx]

Kareem played half his career in the NBA when it hadn't even merged with the ABA literally almost half the talent was in a different basketball league people forget this Kareem is the 4th greatest all time imo but this is a very important Stat

[@darwinlopez7750]

Bc all the players knew MJ was the best they ever seen even MJ without winning team, nor playoff nor titles nor stats. 🤔 the players just knew!

[@anthonydexter3527]

No the players were soft. 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@meshackmihayo7480]

The players were submissive af....Dudes now got pride

[@toxicjutz1168]

@@anthonydexter3527 yeah just like lebron who got outscored by a freaking bench player in the finals.. Don't talk about being soft kid, it'll come back to leflop hard

[@cz7221]

If MJ called up barkley and Olajuwon to team up then i would agree they had equal difficulty

[@richardmack9995]

That voids out because of there franchises were completely different levels

[@theflecca4374]

Shannon’s argument didn’t make much sense lol if Jordan was playing for the goat status he would never had retired the first time and he most likely would have won 9 I. A row at least 1 more ring.

[@dirtysouth693]

wasnt he considered the undisputed greatest after the last game game with the bulls?

[@DAS63]

Could have would have should have. All I am hearing is excuses.

[@slowpxtmsom]

@@dirtysouth693 as a matter of fact … he was considered the goat a few years before he retired from the bulls … it was undisputed while he was playing. The old announcers would say it on live TV as if was FACT lol you brought up a good point !

[@rodneymckinnon9075]

MJ won, because other teams DIDN'T UPGRADE like Phil jackson was doing with Chicago's Roster !

[@BodiggsAkaTheVoice]

Not at all he would of lost against Hakeem the dream and you know it

[@jwallyo]

I don't get this question... Bron clearly left when his road got hard and got some assistance to knock that wall down. How is that harder?? Just curious?

[@VenEm]

His contract was up. He didnt force out like harden

[@DarkAlpha171]

Lebron beat one of the greatest nba teams of all time, Michael was never able to beat an all time great team

[@newsomethingtv5442]

@@DarkAlpha171 Jordan WAS the all time great team 😭😭

[@junior2404]

@@newsomethingtv5442... ,😂

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

@@DarkAlpha171 73-9 doesn’t mean you were the best. Bulls and 2017-18 Warriors were much better

[@peytonlong5573]

This topic so ran to the ground it’s honestly hilarious how they have to cling to it for views like Lebron isn’t catching Jordan and it doesn’t mean Lebron isn’t great but Shannon said right at the beginning Jordan set the bar so high even Kobe came up short it is what it is

[@Ghost-rb6cw]

They were talking about the path they had brother and both kobe and lebron had tougher paths then jordan and lebron had way tougher finals competition combine to both of them guys.

[@peytonlong5573]

@@Ghost-rb6cw blowing it to the mavs and acting like he’s the King of the world all the time hard to feel bad when he loses, So yea and maybe if he actually knew how to pick players for his team and instead of his friends all the time maybe things would be different as well

[@jordangoat2654]

@@Ghost-rb6cw lebron was in the easy east. Jordan was getting beat up in tbe football type of defense. Y'all lebron fans should be very happy a man going 4 - 10 in the finals is placed at number 2.

[@4rarri272]

@@jordangoat2654 lmaoo easy it wasn’t easy for Kobe and Shaq to beat those pistons with Chauncey And Both Wallaces if I remember those pistons beat the brakes off of the lakers wasn’t til the next year a young LeBron beat them made a clutch layup to win the series

[@Shadow-ox7wv]

Kobe is a legend forever, but he’s no where near Bron

[@TheZayzkidd3]

Excuses are only made when you are not satisfied with your outcome... You never hear Jordan or his fans making excuses because they are all satisfied with HOW Jordan did it and the results.

[@josephkaisamba1792]

I hear jordan fans make excuses all the time

[@StormS2N]

@@josephkaisamba1792 same

[@phernz1123]

The biggest excuse Jordan fans make is the "6-0" argument. They talk like Jordan only played 6 years in the league 🤣

[@tigerscott5929]

Jordan fans have been making excuses ever since this LeBron vs MJ debate even started

[@stephon4112]

@@phernz1123 trust me as a mj fan i never use that 6-0 argument because that's obvious but how about best scorer ppg Ave in the history of the game and in the playoffs or 200 steals and 100 blocks back to back seasons which will never be done again or averaging 38,8,8 or something like that while winning mvp,all star mvp, steals title and dunk contest in the same year which i think was 88. Now those are just a few records of mj that will never be broken and there are tons of others.

[@MrYoung22004]

Thank you Skip this notion is absolutely ridiculous

[@johnsach4156]

God this debate is so annoying. We all know Jordan's the goat but LeBron and his "special" fanbase can't take the fact that LeBron will never be the goat and it's driving them insane to the point where they overreact to everything LeBron does now.

[@gowthamvarmadantuluri6385]

yes this debate is so annoying man they need to stop this lebron is the GOAT and next up close is kareem and the rest after a long gap

[@creepincarl]

When you've done what Michael Jordan has done in the finals, nobody cares about his losses. Shannon is reaching worse than Stephen A's hairline.

[@VenEm]

Because memes.

[@blankshell]

Also, MJ was only in his second year and he STILL dropped 63 against the eventual champions. LeBron was "in his prime" and he was getting beat down by teams. In MJ's prime, he never lost.

[@aaronbragg994]

Mic 🎤 drop .. convo is over

[@Picmanreborn]

@@blankshell ????? 🤨 Bron took 11 trash cans and a coach that couldn't read to the finals before kid mustache even came in

[@cortomaltese7171]

A guy who created 3 super teams, quit, and left every time for fresh new blood had a tougher road than a guy who got what he got and grew together with that team until become the ultimate champion? Clowns from Klutch and ESPN are shameless.

[@ajfelton2262]

Kobe had a harder path to winning than both of them, MJ had tougher conference opponents, LeBron had tougher Finals opponents,Kobe in the three years to the Finals from 2008-2010 had BOTH..two outta three Finals matchups against the Superteam Celtics and had to go through OKC,San Antonio, Denver, Phoenix,Utah, Houston all 50+ Wins teams just to get there

[@henrysmart6854]

Kobe was garbage

[@kingjoffreyownsyou6032]

🧢 Kobe had the most dominant force this leagues ever seen Shaquille O’Neal

[@ajfelton2262]

@@kingjoffreyownsyou6032 Clearly you didn't see the post where it stated the timeframe Without Shaq and even with Shaq they still had battles with Portland, Spurs and Kings in the West all whom which Kobe dominated against

[@ajfelton2262]

@@henrysmart6854 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DAS63]

Kobe never had unbeatable opponents. The West was tough but his team was strong enough to beat them + Celtics. Bron literally had nearly 0% chance in 4 of his finals

[@stefanpayne9199]

Why can’t LeBron just be happy being the second best player in the history of basketball??? Men these days soft as cotton candy! Bro you ain’t Jordan, MOVE ON!!!💯

[@DAS63]

Why can’t you just accept that MJ is 2nd best player in history? Move on!

[@etherionoon]

@@DAS63 Lebron is 4-6 with a bubble ring. Please be quiet

[@gabrielwatson9703]

@@etherionoon don’t forget that lockout ring lol only played 60 games that year bron only has 2 legitimate rings 1 in Miami and the 1 in Cleveland smh .

[@stefanpayne9199]

@@DAS63 you must be young little boi, you must not have seen Jordan play. Cause you out your damn mind! 6-0 in the finals, 6 mvp’s. It’s not even close. This new age OBSESSED with this man, haha smh!

[@DAS63]

@@etherionoon Funny how in your brain only final loss counts as a loss.

[@FloridaHockeyFan]

What a stupid take on Lebron's era. Michael wasnt calling every superstar creating the next "big 3". That was all Lebron's era. Michael stayed true and humble. Jordan's era was 10 more physical and the golden era of ball. Jordan is more relatable than Lebron. People like Jordan because he didnt alienate half the fanbase. (Lebrons comments on white people and not having white friends). Jordan was quoted saying "Republicans buy shoes to". There was just a fundamental difference between the two. You can tell Jordan had a structured life growing up. Shows how important it is to have a father present during a young boys venture to manhood. The maturity difference is night and day.

[@cortomaltese7171]

A guy who created 3 super teams, quit, and left every time for fresh new blood had a tougher road than a guy who got what he got and grew together with that team until become the ultimate champion? Clowns from Klutch and ESPN are shameless. Are you f.... normal?

[@koleon06]

NBA wise…Jordan had to face in the east: the likes of Bird, Mchale, Ewing, Isiah to name a few Lebron had to face in the east: the likes of Howard, Arenas, Lowry, George, Pierce… And Lebron had a tougher road? 🤣

[@jersiahgurley6258]

He had tougher finals opponents, that’s not a debate at all😭

[@robinschmalbrock5357]

Two finals losses against the Tim Duncan lead Spurs dynasty and three finals losses against the Warriors dynasty of which the first loss happened after his second and third best players got injured. Losses two and three were against Steph, KD, Klay and Draymond. Would you choose Kyrie over KD or Steph? Would you choose Kevin Love over Klay Thompson or Draymond Green? What was the name of the dynasty in the 90s? Chicago Bulls.

[@bierdlll]

In all six championships, MJ had the better supporting cast. It's 2-3 HOF players vs 1-2 HOF players. Take away the best player from both teams, and the bulls will always win. This was usually not the case for Lebron. MJ had it easier.

[@robinschmalbrock5357]

@@bierdlll In addition the Bulls had several defenders in the All-defensive teams for each championship. Michael and Scottie each time and Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman both once, but that doesn't mean they weren't elite defenders.

[@2robjenkins]

The east in the 90s was weak, so weak that the bulls without Jordan in 94 took the knicks to 7 games and should have made the finals. You would know that if you watched back then.

[@genesiscruz2000]

At the end of the day MJ is still the GOAT. Overwhelming majority of NBA stars, basketball experts, websites, consider him as the GOAT. Bronsexuals and casuals considers LBJ as the goat though LMAO 🤣.

[@chrisfranco373]

Agreed 💯 facts

[@tmoney360]

No way bruh. All cap. They old heads what dey know? The analytics and stats are biased towards Jordan. There was no such thing as an athlete in the NBA before 2003. Who cares if all those geezers think mj is better. You telling me watching a dude play gives you more insight into the better player than me watching youtube? Nah!!!!

[@genesiscruz2000]

@@tmoney360 This idiot really wants us to take his word over NBA players and basketball experts get out of year you dillusional bronsexual 🤣🤣. You're a nobody 😴.

[@emmanuelstanley9138]

Mj is not the goat it's Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

[@mrkymrk19]

I'm looking at it in this way. MJ had a hard path through a Physical sense. The pounding he had to go through night in, night out. While Lebron went through a hard path in terms of Public Scrutiny.

[@luklazert.v.6314]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Spot on

[@_SIRENITY_]

I don’t know, there were papers back then, he had to read so much BS and couldn’t instantly reply and denounce things like you can today. He also had to deal with his father being murdered but then won his second three peat. We all know MJ is mentally tougher, so why would he not deal with it better then LBJ who has shown mental weakness time after time 🤷

[@multyz1]

Pounding MJ went through...nonsense.

[@_SIRENITY_]

@@multyz1 ?? It was way more physical and he had all the attention every game. Anyone and everyone knows that, unless your new

[@kenrobinson7563]

@@_SIRENITY_ don’t know how you can be mentally weak and a top 3 player all time 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@felixmcclurkin229]

How can LeBron's path be harder if he's able to pick his teammates, and change Cities at will, it's like one mechanic using his tool to fix a car, and the other relian on someone else's tools not knowing if he has what he needs to complete the Job

[@htownblack9184]

Obviously the topic went over your head

[@jeffreyleon2322]

Lebron had more expectations and pressure in the beginning of his career but at the end I would say jordan had more pressure at the end

[@jordangoat2654]

@@jeffreyleon2322 yes lebron passed the ball so much it cost him 6 finals

[@erikpuka2627]

@@htownblack9184 Brons 2011 finals apperance cancels him from this conversation

[@beekretrac]

@@htownblack9184 nah....the comment went over yours....lol

[@felixwatkins1582]

Did Shannon realize that Bron couldn't beat that Magic team and the only Hall of Famer was Dwight

[@jetplanevalentine3791]

A damn shame...smh

[@MrGenexxx]

He probably could. But he was too scared to face Kobe in the finals.

[@12stnumbers95]

Yeah switching teams every 4 yrs must be exhausting

[@aaronbragg994]

Just ask James harden he does it every 4-5 yrs.. it's a new millennial trend when u can't get an easy ring..it's almost like playing hot potato..where can I hop to next 👉

[@pimpinb11]

Realistically, LeBron could’ve went to any college he wanted to, so we can’t give that to him. Ofcourse, we know why he went straight to the NBA, but that was his decision at the end of the day. I’ve never understood that point. Also, “Michael Jordan is the only one who gets lauded in a losing performance. We’ve never seen that before” is completely untrue. Bron is the main superstar who gets passes for losing efforts. Anytime you speak on a Bron loss, what do people say? “Yeah but look at his numbers” “he had no help”. I’ve actually seen people say that LeBron going to the finals 10 times is actually more impressive than Jordan winning 6.

[@geminizx]

Lebron cant, coz he will transfer to different school just to win

[@bj6027]

💯💯💯

[@TheAlexJimenez]

Right. They used to pretend derozan was special. Or pg, or even oladipo on the pacers. He played no one.

[@anthonydexter3527]

You mean his fans. I never see lebron praised for the 51 he put on Durant's head playing one of the greatest teams ever. Instead I hear about his cast on his hand from that series. Even with Jr Smith stupid mistake, they still attack lebron. So please stop lying.

[@anthonydexter3527]

@@TheAlexJimenez derozon was and is special. And don't make us downplay the pat Ewing Knicks or the Reggie Miller pacers. All one star lead teams. None as good as chicago but let's overrate the Knicks so it seems like MJ had a tough road to the finals. There only worthy comp was Orlando because they had two stars. Foh

[@infiniteuniverse9528]

What's so hard about jumping to another Super-Team every time LeBron's team starts to suck? I don't recall James leaving the league to go play minor league baseball, then returning to dominate the NBA by 3-peating again. Neither was LeBron's father murdered, only to see him overcome that ultimate challenge and return to the top of the sport. When the going gets tough for LeBron, he bails on his fans and hometown to take his talents to south beach and play alongside Kyrie, Love, Bosh, Wade, Allen and Davis. That's not what I call "Mental-Toughness".

[@SummerAwe99]

MJ only won when he had the best team in the league... in an expansion era, against inferior competition in the finals.

[@eamorrison859]

I didn't know Kyrie played in South Beach, or K Love or AD.

[@ethanmvp5407]

How can you hate on someone without even knowing his career? Kyrie and Love on Miami? Go watch his Miami videos and come back to me, even though I know KZbin is a foreign concept for MJ fans

[@davidolajide3707]

He grew up without a father

[@biglosk331]

Why did MJ leave in the first place? Oh never mind.

[@SignalCorps1]

This a few years old, but you’ll get the jest Jordan vs LeBron After Lebron's 14th season VS MJ’s 11 seasons. Michael Jordan has: •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY and considered by most to be the best defensive player for a decade. This award was spread around because MJ received so many other awards. This was called the SBDPOY award (Second Best DPOY) •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / Lebron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago” •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018) •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. MIchael Jordan: •NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88) •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98) •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice! •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career… Two 3-peats 6-0 in the finals Never played a game 7 Jordan's the "ultimate closer" LeBron was just swept 0-4 in the finals

[@brandondean5680]

👏

[@ishan9220]

Man u gotta alot of time

[@alezflores]

Best and simplest case that latest it out completely

[@elijahrincon3586]

I was scrolling waiting for it to end for 5 minutes

[@viniciussantos2857]

Jordan is better, Lebron is greater... Period.

[@optimistic1__299]

It don’t matter!! It’s a different era!! Plz stop comparing the 2 greats, but ones is just the GOAT MJ.. Lebron should have worn number 32 like magic Johnson 🤣🤣🤣

[@calebbc5434]

"I'm chasing that ghost in Chicago" tells you about all you need to know

[@ucheeze8697]

Lebron is not remotely close to MJ... I appreciate Lebron's greatness, but nobody is Jordan

[@Youngmoneycashmoney]

Nobody is lebron *

[@Youngmoneycashmoney]

Top 10 in points assists rebounds

[@WestCA619]

@@Youngmoneycashmoney the point of the game is to put the ball in the hoop though and Jordan did that better than anyone.

[@Youngmoneycashmoney]

@@WestCA619 also WHILE TAKING MOST SHOTS BRING THAT UP

[@Youngmoneycashmoney]

@@WestCA619 taking more shots than everybody if that’s the case KD is the best scorer btw not Jordan

[@aaronbragg994]

I guess when u bounce from team to team and create super teams your whole career I guess that is a harder path.. smh.. mike stayed in the same team and made the players around him better.. that's what great players do..

[@Mykaininekkkkkahajw]

Ever heard of the wizards?

[@notcoolkev3770]

@@Mykaininekkkkkahajw Jordan didn’t get the chance to play with Tim Duncan in his old age the way lebron has AD averaging 23 and 10 for him helping Lebrons legacy.

[@bierdlll]

In all six championships, MJ had the better supporting cast. It's 2-3 HOF players vs 1-2 HOF players. Take away the best player from both teams, and the bulls will always win. This was usually not the case for Lebron. MJ had it easier. The bulls was always the superteam, not the opponents.

[@newsomethingtv5442]

@@bierdlll the only reason why the bulls were considered “super” is because of how good Jordan was. Rodman was UNWANTED before he got to the bulls, and pippen was a baller, but every Batman needs his Rodman

[@mybrotha8144]

@@bierdlll thank you

[@Master-rz1xi]

all i know is MJ played in a much more physical era... and never ring chased like lebron 🤷

[@phernz1123]

Talent > Physicality

[@Master-rz1xi]

@@phernz1123 not like there wasn't talent when mj was playing .. lol?

[@phernz1123]

@@Master-rz1xi Of course there was, nothing compared to todays league, but there was talent back then.

[@Master-rz1xi]

@@phernz1123 yeah I wouldn't call the Heat team he beat particularly talented. but his wins over the spurs and warriors are impressive. beating the thunder was kinda meh since they were all very young players on that team

[@JROLL84]

Jordan had some Hall of Famers as well as some Great role players..he didn’t leave because his team brought the right talent in…

[@jovono1]

I love Shannon's comeback on Skip's played out "God in disguised". Shannon "If he god in disguised, how come he missed that shot in overtime?"😭😭😭

[@MrGenexxx]

Ask Larry Bird.

[@dark_knight_3304]

Weakest comeback ever Shannon lebron GOAT argument is destroyed by a clip of him saying lebron needs 5 rings 5 mvps and 5 finals mvps the guy comes out here everyday looking like a fool saying lebron is the goat when even he doesn’t believe it

[@jovono1]

@@dark_knight_3304 Let it go man. Lol. LBJ been the greatest and still going. There is nothing MJ fans can do but be bitter... Sad, but go in peace.🤷🏿‍♂️

[@suntansuperman26]

@@jovono1 LeBron been the greatest? This man in year 19 still behind Jordan in accolades, he needs all the extra years and chances he can get

[@jovono1]

@@suntansuperman26 What accolades?

[@bobbydean8904]

MJ was criticized up to the very moment till he finally won a chip after that MJ paved his own path & force the bulls to win 6 chips LeBron will never even get close even if he wins 6

[@xJinRaGna]

Honestly most of his championships have been controversial outside of his win against OKC and San Antonio. The bubble championship didn't even feel like it should belong in the same season cause they took a 5 month break. That's longer than the off season. Suns went undefeated and didn't make playoffs. WTF? Then we all know about Adam Silver giving LeBron a bigger stimulus package against golden state than the government did for us.

[@TheAlexJimenez]

No he wasn’t. Anyone that knew basketball knows he wasn’t supposed to beat six hofs on the Celtics at the same time or the bad boy pistons. 2 historic teams by himself? You think he was criticized for that? Yet lebrkn got a pass for being swept by the spurs. Lost the last two games by a combined two points. Lebrkn was by himself he shouldn’t have won. Even though he got out scored by Tony Parker and only averaged 22 a game.

[@anthonydexter3527]

@@TheAlexJimenez Lebron gets a pass from who? Because Bron haters bring up that finals as well

[@bobbydean8904]

@@TheAlexJimenez u clearly wasn't paying attention to it then since u mentioned the bad boy Pistons when they won their two in a row the papers where saying how they wish they had Isaiah instead of MJ so u say he didn't I think I know the reason cuz u don't want to find it

[@bobbydean8904]

@@TheAlexJimenez yeah LeBron James should have won more with those super teams with Dwyane Wade Chris Bosh Ray Allen Kyrie Irving Kevin Love Anthony Davis but Lebron likes to choke in the 4th quarter this is facts in a stat u can't deny lol

[@jrcharles9680]

Jordan beat the NBA best 8 out of 8 times when he was on the College Olympic USA team. Name one player that led a team out of college to do that.

[@based4822]

He played plumbers and crackheads

[@milutinitc4937]

Nikola Jokić

[@timmaz24s]

@@based4822 so magic and Isiah and big bird was plumbers? Oh thanks for the info lol 😂

[@milutinitc4937]

@@based4822 That plumbers would trash Lebron with 2017 GSW... Kids have no clue🤦

[@onionrovirosa]

Magic Johnson rockie year in the Lakers. He dominated the finals.

[@shaqdaddy789]

Jordan 3 peated then retired and came back and 3 peated again Lebron hasn’t three peated one time in his 20 year career. Jordan did it twice in 13 seasons

[@TheSupervang]

I’ve always used this as well…no other player has done two three peats…

[@donnibrasko1]

Skip: Lebron played in the Least-ern when MJ played in the Beast-ern conference!☠☠☠

[@spectre5x5]

I respect both of their opinions, but this is very subjective. I personally agree with Skip and Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player that I have ever seen. This debate reminds me of two kids arguing who is the greatest super hero though.

[@ju9330]

His finals opponents were nothing compared to Lebron s that's a fact.

[@mikejones1765]

@@ju9330 he lost to more than just the warriors 😂

[@ju9330]

@@mikejones1765 Yep Lol had them crying to go get KD lol they all were afraid 😂🤣. The spurs Dynasty at 22 Lebron Carried them Jordan couldn't get out the playoffs till he had Scottie trash.

[@BodiggsAkaTheVoice]

How can MJ be the greatest when Kareem leads the NBA in scoring and LeBron is about to break that record

[@tylervance0146]

@@ju9330 Bron faced better teams in the Finals but the Bulls faced more 60 win teams, way more 50 win teams, and LeBron had almost 3x as many all-star teammates than Jordan. Brons finals match ups were tougher but Jordans overall playoff path was tougher

[@kaceyrodriguez3053]

Another day, another MJ vs LeBron segment...but to say, MJ tougher competition in East, LeBron much tougher Finals competition. 2010s and now are also the most talented/skilled ever ofc

[@grandtheftaudio6386]

I wouldnt say more talented but perhaps more skilled but them dudes in the 80s and 90s? Faaaaar tougher, them dudes were fighting left and right. Imagine Lebron having to deal with them bad boy Pistons or showtime Lakers or Celtics? Both men went thru some fantastic hurdles to reach where they are at the end of the day.

[@SignalCorps1]

2010 teams were better shooters and better runners, but much worse at defense and not nearly as rough. Also the rule changes between then and now would’ve allowed Jones average 50 points a game. Finally, once Jordan won he won six in a row with six MVPs. LeBron has been absent for many finals games and has a losing record in the finals.

[@lennybeason1110]

2010's softest defensive era ever!

[@xDreMack]

@@grandtheftaudio6386 can't even say more skilled to be honest. If you put someone like Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Mark Jackson, Hakeem in today's game they'd dominate because they can all score at three levels and defend extremely well.

[@johncena4096]

@@grandtheftaudio6386 are you forgetting that lebron is 3 inches taller and has at least 40 pounds on jordan. The physical aspect would not be a problem for him. Also the celitcs/lakers did not play like the pistons stop it. Jordan finally beat the pistons and started winning championships in 1991 after the league introduced the flagrent foul rule, in other words after the league became SOFTER. Also Lebron main scoring weapon is driving/bullying his way to the basket. So how would it be too physical for him if thats the main thing he does to score?

[@kghallcaptures]

On the other side, you don't have a LeBron without MJ. But Shannon tries to spin it the other way around 🤣 these debates are so stupid you can't compare different eras and positions... The "slow news day" standard

[@murkcobain4710]

Ok? You don't have a MJ without a Dr J😯😵🤣

[@barreltech8949]

I’m having a hard time understanding why people don’t compare and debate MJ vs Kobe knowing they are more alike. It makes no sense

[@mrblend]

whats so hard.... they been talking about the GOAT status for #1, not style of play

[@ChronicGamingJunkie]

Shannon if Lebron hadn't loss in eastern conference finals to Orlando and faced Kobe and lost we wouldn't put him over kobe

[@viktorkopinc4055]

yes because there are two standards, one for Lebron who has to beat mega teams on his own or jordan who could've played with shaq and it still would be all his work, like how pippen became who he was because michael breathed in the air for him, blah, blah.

[@onemikethreesports4194]

I don't put him over Kobe regardless

[@travonlove9052]

@@onemikethreesports4194 me either. Kobe till this day gets disrespected

[@onemikethreesports4194]

@@travonlove9052 right! It's some bs how the media just catapulted LeBron over Kobe and Tim Duncan like they didn't win 5 rings a piece. And here we are years and years after they've both retired, and LeBron still hasn't caught them

[@travonlove9052]

@@onemikethreesports4194 exactly and the sad thing is LeBron has had way more superstars on his team than both Kobe and Duncan and like you said only has 4 rings to show for it and if it wasn't for that bubble he would still have 3. And look at the Lakers now, he wanted Westbrook instead of DeRozon who wanted to come and take a pay cut and even get Buddy Heild but instead got Westbrook.

[@georgemartinez8405]

Michael Jordan kept alot of Hall of Famers from winning NBA championships, & also prevented some players from being Hall of Famers. That Knicks team especially in 93 was filled with enormous talent and desire to win. Beating the Bulls in the first 2 games of the ECF, then loosing the next 4 just crushed them. That's a big reason I see Jordan as the goat. Take nothing away from lebron James, but Jordan was on another level.

[@dynamic6645]

He didn't prevent Larry Bird Magic Isiah Olajuwon Shaq Duncan from winning rings lol

[@00noelo]

Mr. Martinez, how do you rate that 93 Knicks team against any of the 2015 - 2018 Golden State Warrior's teams?

[@georgemartinez8405]

Mr upside down, bird & magic, were established by the time Jordan got there. Thomas was waiting his turn and Jordan didn't have the supporting cast he eventually would go on to have. Once Jordan had all the tools in place, in 91 he swept the pistons in the ECF and poor sports the pistons were. Prevented the Lakers from winning and after that magic retired. He kept Shaq from winning the ECF in 96. Duncan was barely entering In 97 I think. @Mr Harrington, trust me the 93 Knicks were way better than the warriors you mentioned. Had the 93 bulls not beat the Knicks, they would've likely won in 93 & 94 but in 94 they ran out of gas against the rockets.

[@dynamic6645]

@@georgemartinez8405 So now you remember that the game is a team sport and that you need help to win ? Lol

[@georgemartinez8405]

I've always known it's a team sport.

[@bleedingcrystal4722]

Jordan had the misfortune of having to deal with the Celtics and Pistons, two all time great teams, in his conference. That is pretty much like if Lebron had to deal with Golden State in his conference. Easier path to the Finals, less physical league, and taking the easy way out forming super teams. There are categories where they are close, but this isn’t one of them. At all

[@kashifkelley8235]

Exactly. People forget how the east back then wasn't a cakewalk like its been for the last 20 years. Not taking away from the west back then, the east just appeared to have more teams with straight dawgs. And back then, damn near every team had a big man to go with whoever the smaller guy was.

[@terrellcannon8549]

Agreed 👏🏾

[@tonygotbars8835]

I give you the Celtics but not the pistons who only had 1 all star on there team. That golden state team was better. An all of lebron finals opponents were better except for the Mavericks & heat. An In the eastern conference Bron had to face a big 3 Celtics also, that pistons team with rich Hamilton, Wallace, prince,& Chauncey, the magic wit prime Dwight & them, the wizards who had Gilbert arenas, Jamison, & Caron butler, & dwade & shaq heat.

[@moeketsimolai7374]

Then he had the good fortune of having the 1980's great get old or injured...Lenny Bias died, Reggie Lewis died, Bird aged badly...MJ also had the good fortune of 6 expansion teams being added to the NBA(Heat, Magic, Grizz, Raptors, Twolves, Hornets) so suddenly there were 90 guys in the NBA who previously couldn't make into the league and 6 horrible franchises for the Bulls to feast on... just facts, it actually happened. MJ had inferior competition in the 1990's

[@donela6730]

@@tonygotbars8835 How do you discredit the Pistons when they beat the Lakers with a prime Magic? Not to mention all of those Eastern conference teams you mentioned for Lebron are no where near the 80's Celtics/Pistons. BTW, Bron never faced Dwade or Bosh in the playoffs (which is the whole point behind him stacking his teams so he could avoid having to actually face competition before the finals).

[@ArmandoKozomara]

Kobe beat/faced the most 50+ win teams in the playoffs! The Jazz in the 90s; Kings and Blazers in the early 2000s, the almighty Spurs throughout the 2000s, etc. And the greatest run in 09 and 10 to win his fourth and fifth championship.

[@CashMoolah00]

Shame Lebron couldn’t make it to the 09 finals,Kobe lakers would of destroyed them.

[@kendallpondexter6014]

“How he miss the shot?” “God wouldn’t of done dah” 🤣 Shannon is the goat of sports talk

[@SmartClassySassy1]

And he was absolutely right, because all of those who love to hate LeBron are always talking negative about everything that man does.

[@magnum2051]

People dont give shannon enough credit. Not only for the basketball knowledge but for the research he does on what he doesnt know and also the smart comebacks and remarks he makes like that one everyday lol

[@keithkool8308]

Still comparing those two, why??? We all know Mj was a better superior individual player than Lebron. Lebron is a better teamplayer. They all had a different hard path to lead. But leave the Leb and Jo comparison’s alone. It just not done

[@Truthorfib]

This was Rich Paul's point though. I dont recall Jordan being compared to some other basketball player for arguements on the GOAT debate. While for Lebron its Jordan this and Jordan that oh Jordan Jordan Jordan. Oh wait Lebron cant have a DPOY like Jordan lets vote for the guy in the 2nd team all defense because JORDAN. Lebron has never been fully appreciated because of these Jordan comparisons. Instead of just saying Lebron people say but Jordan.

[@rjfletcher7677]

No we don’t all know that

[@rodneymckinnon9075]

I would choose Lebron over MJ anyday !

[@robertluong3024]

@@Truthorfib Jordan was compared all the time?

[@travionjohnson3975]

I would have no problem with this argument if Bron didn’t have Wade Bosh Ray Kyrie Love AD Russ. He’s played so called tougher competition with Hall of Fame help

[@22monterio]

This is a L who is Pippen, Kerr, Rodman?

[@travionjohnson3975]

@@22monterio You really compared Kerr to Wade Kyrie🤣 Wade averaged 25 Bosh 21 and 11 Kyrie 25 regular season 35 in the finals Bosh 19 and 11 AD 27 and 12 Russ right now 19 8 and 8. Pippen best was 19 Rodman 7 but 15 boards

[@torrisfairley3227]

Not saying that its fair, but the reason people look pass MJ's losses early in his career was because he was doing things no one had ever seen before every game which made people become in awe of him. His performance and style of play always outweighed his losses.

[@christiancevallos9820]

The exact same applies to bron tho? Bro singlehandedly carried his cavs team to the finals in 2007 with an all time performance during those playoffs yet i still see mfs blaming him for that loss. His 2016 finals run is arguably the greatest of all time yet people still harp on his 2011 loss??? Mfs bring up brons losses just to have him lower than MJ.

[@metalpharaoh3025]

Shannon wrong about jordan being the only person praised in losing performances bc all LeBron fans do is praise him in all his finals losses. “He made it to 10 finals tho” but did he win?

[@ChrisRashaadmusic]

When Lebron retires, every sports analyst is really going to have a tough time trying to come up with new topics to talk about.

[@mrblend]

lets see man.... Its gonna be that or the next name.

[@DatNicaLuis]

Can yall stop with the same 3 teams for football and basketball? I love the bulls but yall ain't talking about Deebo and how he's killing it right now.

[@sonic6506]

It is more amazing that they are still discussing this topic with the same passion🤦‍♂️

[@KleinpeterHank]

2:55 Shannon is so disingenuous. When the Cavs beat the Pistons Ben Wallace wasn’t on the team and they had a different coach.

[@FreezeIzGawd0517]

When MJ beat the Pistons they were old and had lost Rick Mahorn

[@zacgrasl4229]

@@FreezeIzGawd0517 they weren’t old…and even if they were, they were back to back defending champs so your argument is invalid

[@kadoe8439]

@@FreezeIzGawd0517 They won a championship after they lost Rick mahorn plus they was they still in their prime Isaiah was 29 Joe Dumars was 28 Bill Lambieree was only 33 Rodman was only 29 so The bulls beat them straight up Lebron on the other hand lost to and old spurs team with a young star averaging 17.8 Pts a game

[@FreezeIzGawd0517]

@@kadoe8439 @Zac They were not old in age but were old in battles. 5 straight ECFs and 3 straight Finals oh and BOTH Isiah and Lambierre retired within 5 years after the loss. Oh and the Pistons were bad but who on Lebrons team that won were as good as Scottie, Grant and Paxson

[@FreezeIzGawd0517]

@@kadoe8439 Wait a minute sooooo the Pistons weren’t old because they one one more title but the Spurs WERE old and they won THREE more titles after that okay 👌🏾!!!!

[@Jeazzy24]

So tired of this debate. Kobe had the hardest road to GREATNESS period and every team he beat, the stars was in their primes. Nash, dirk, Iverson, Duncan, melo, etc. The media is so biased

[@SuperIcecold94]

Yeah but them finals team they beat during the 3peat devalues that in this argument unfortunately

[@dododump3144]

Kobe isn’t the goat

[@mattmmixes]

Well what exactly do you mean by “greatness” top ten or just guys who were at the top of their leagues? If you mean guys who were at the top of their leagues and not exclusively top ten I’d say dirk, same difficult west, barely played with any all stars and his own team was afraid to play him at first due to his new style of play.

[@hanklin2291]

@@dododump3144 well the topic is road to greatness not road to be goat learn to read plz

[@Jeazzy24]

@@SuperIcecold94 and what team is that exactly because all Kobe rings came from beating opponents while they were in their primes

[@360kingz]

Ben Wallace wasn't on that pistons team in 07 Shannon lied it was the easiest road to the finals round 1 and 2 Cavs played two teams with a 45-45 record then 3rd round a pistons team with no ben Wallace it was overrated

[@jacadianpro]

No it wasn't if you look at the comparable teams. Meaning look at LeBron's team then and compare them to the teams he beat. It was not easy, it was impressive with that circumstance.

[@fitzgerald434]

@@jacadianpro you cant argue with jordan stans

[@speaktruths5274]

@@fitzgerald434 Greatest players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 3. Bill Russell Goat 🐐 Jordan > LeBron Seasons played LeBron 19 Jordan 15 Rings Jordan 6✔️ LeBron 4 Finals Mvps Jordan 6✔️ (most all time) LeBron 4 League Mvps Jordan 5✔️ LeBron 4 Total Mvps (league and finals) Jordan 11✔️ ( most all time ) LeBron 8 Scoring titles Jordan 10✔️ ( most all time) LeBron 1 Steals titles Jordan 3✔️ (1988, 1990, 1993) LeBron 0 All defensive team selections Jordan 9✔️ (tied most all time) LeBron 5 Defensive player of year Jordan 1✔️ (1988) LeBron 0 3point% (NBA finals) Jordan 36.8%✔️ LeBron 35.2% Free throw% ( NBA finals) Jordan 80.6%✔️ LeBron 73.8% Points per game Jordan 30.12✔️ (1st all time) LeBron 27.01 Vertical jump measure Jordan 48✔️ LeBron 40 40 time Jordan 4.38✔️ LeBron 4.60 Jordan better scorer, mid range, free throw shooter, mid range shooter, better at steals, more athletic, faster, better playing without ball, better defensive player then LeBron Jordan better overall player then LeBron Goat 🐐 Jordan 6-0 with only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compared to LeBron 4-6 and 6 finals losses more all star teammates Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh , Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis now Russell Westbrook lol Jordan wins 16 rings with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love , Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook

[@sambeezy007]

@@jacadianpro Exactly. When your team is always expected to win there's nothing impressive about it.

[@360kingz]

@@jacadianpro ill add that the 45-45 Washington Wizards played without their best player Gilbert Arenas

[@pokerjunke]

I really grew up with Michael Jordan but someone that can guard all five positions and play all five positions is the greatest the only difference Michael Jordan's Killer Instinct is greater than LeBrons to me Lebron is and always will be the greatest player of all time and LeBron didn't quit twice and come back

[@dennislewis7047]

He quit due to his father dying and came back and won three more. Plus, if you actually go by the real numbers Jordan surpassed LeBron.

[@jmartaclark4903]

Facts

[@williamseric740]

Lebron will never be greater than Jordan no matter how much Shannon wants him to be.

[@dee-jl6fi]

That’s a opinion my guy

[@cojack636]

@@dee-jl6fi exactly. But Jordanites want it as facts

[@NikoGus07]

Thank you

[@simonbelmont548]

I watched them both, MJ git me into basketball. I even named my son Jordan after him. I should have named him Lebron.

[@ogkrampus8258]

@@cojack636yup so true

[@kerke4639]

I’d argue that LeBron had the advantage by coming to the league early. Jordan did have a great coach in College but LeBron was given a chance to enter the league much earlier at a younger age giving him more years to succeed and also giving him more years to adapt to the NBA. And he also had an advantage with defenders since his second year, hand-checking was removed giving him a better chance to play much more physical offensively which helped him polish his game

[@BodiggsAkaTheVoice]

The advantage LeBron had was he was physically prepared for the NBA and Jordan wasn't that's why he couldn't beat the pistons

[@chrisochugbo6286]

Give a 15 year old 15 millon dollars n a 20 year old d same and see who does better.

[@kyoza1911]

Yeah, put MJ on NBA when he was 5 years old made him advantage over 25 years old Lebron james is your logic.

[@bfinvestments5058]

You sound stupid

[@thikboi6074]

He has never had a good coach. Jordan has HOF coach

[@raymondgracie2592]

Playing in the social media era is already more difficult.. LeBron’s path is certainly harder. From having mediocre coaches to below average teammates (in the beginning). MJ may have played in an era that was more physical.. but I’m not sure that this era is more difficult to play in. It’s more focused on physical conditioning.. and I’ll tell you this.. I’d rather be more physical than running up and down the court guarding bigger, faster, stronger more athletic ballers which makes it certainly harder to guard on this era of how defense is played. MJ is MJ. I got him second all time. I got Kareem as the greatest. LeBron is 3rd or 4th depending on where you put Bill Russell. But this is a silly debate. Skip obviously has an unhealthy obsession with MJ that borders on psychosis really.. he’s like that woman in the movie Fatal Attraction .. Shannon is trying to defend LeBron against the attacks but it’s no need… Skip isn’t changing his mind. And LeBron as great as he is just hasn’t accomplished quite enough to be in the conversation with Kareem, MJ and Russell. They are in a room by themselves for now. But let’s see what LeBron does before he hangs it up. If he gets the All Time scoring title and wins another chip.. I’d put him ahead of MJ.

[@hulang867]

The only argument Shan can't debate is the 6-0 really... everything else is literally on lebron's favor. And I don't consider him nor mj the goat. The point about the physical preparation is almost never mentioned, but how many guys were as athletic as any in today's game?

[@aaronbragg994]

Wow I respect that.. cause I have Kareem #2 on my list.. ppl forget about Kareem.. MJ is my man.. but I got Kareem.. right behind him.. as a MJ guy I can respect that cause I saw Kareem play.. 👀

[@johncombs5990]

No way the road was near as hard for LeBron,for 1,he played with way softer players. Jordan played in a man's league

[@Papooscannon]

Tough doesn’t make u good bro

[@Boss3Nate]

with less talent. Just bc you could fight and tackle players doesn't mean it was better basketball

[@jacadianpro]

😂 those "tough" players ON AVERAGE can't light a candle to the athletes and skill of today.

[@hunterambrose9650]

centers can shoot 3’s now, everyone has handles. can you imagine what giannis would’ve done in mike’s league ? the talent is so much better in todays league than in the 80s and 90s

[@sambeezy007]

"They made the game harder for me and easier for you." -Wilt to MJ

[@retepoteil]

Never heard this discussion before

[@Kodmaniac76]

MJ the 🐐

[@leetraviusmckay2919]

Lebron had to face harder finals competition but MJ had the harder road to the finals

[@tmac731]

People don’t understand that

[@HobieMorales]

So can you tell bronsexuals to stop bring up the finals appearances since it was easy for him to get there

[@nnamdiede1180]

@@HobieMorales He said Micheal had a harder road, dude never said he had an easy one.

[@HobieMorales]

@@nnamdiede1180 I think you took what I said the wrong way reread it...

[@nnamdiede1180]

@@HobieMorales No I understood what you said. He said Micheal had a harder road to the finals than LeBron. He never said that LeBrons road to the finals was easy, I think you need to reread it…

[@DefSquadFan]

I always have to check the date on the video to make sure this wasnt old.

[@terrellcannon8549]

I think it's blasphemy comparing Lebron to Michael Jordan. I agree with Shannon a lot but when it comes to Lebron comparing with Mike 🤷🏾‍♂️ sorry Shannon your wrong. You can't even compare him to kobe, reaching for Jordan status is disrespectful.

[@DAS63]

You don’t know what you are talking about. Kobe is max 7th greatest, and I wouldn’t even put him in top 10. Bron and MJ are about the same. Although, I’ll give the slightest on nods to MJ rn.

[@WestCA619]

@@DAS63 Bron has had a better career than Kobe but I’m not sure if I’d consider him a better player.

[@cortomaltese7171]

A guy who created 3 super teams, quit, and left every time for fresh new blood had a tougher road than a guy who got what he got and grew together with that team until become the ultimate champion? Clowns from Klutch and ESPN are shameless.

[@terrellcannon8549]

@@DAS63 lebron has a losing career bruh. 10 visits to the finals and only won 4 🤔. Ok let's start with kobe 7 visits and 5 championships. Now Mike... you know the rest 6 for 6. Stop glorifying losing you only remembered by how many championships you win not games.

[@DAS63]

@@terrellcannon8549 If you are only remembered by championships then Robert Horry (7-0) is better than MJ and Bill Russell is your GOAT, right?

[@isiahbaker1538]

Unc can’t go with you on this 😂 I’m with skip he’s 💯 percent right

[@MemphisJadon]

Don’t forget, Adam Silver added the play in just recently to make it easier for Bron to it to the playoff. MJ was authentic in what he accomplished on and off the court which became a blueprint for Bron reason he still plays to this day. Looking for a 6th chip. MJ was cut from his high school team as a sophomore, stayed with his team when they weren’t winning, father was murdered. More like from the bottom to the top. Bron on the other hand, didn’t have any difficulty deciding on his jersey number because all he had to do was use MJ’s number, profited millions from the company(Nike) MJ turned into an empire, remade MJ’s space jam and when he couldn’t win, he joined forces to create a super team which allowed him to make it to the finals many years in a row.

[@Picmanreborn]

Play in was made to get Zion into the playoffs. The Lakers weren't even at risk of playing in the play in game that year. And Bron didn't like the idea of the play in game either

[@cortomaltese7171]

A guy who created 3 super teams, quit, and left every time for fresh new blood had a tougher road than a guy who got what he got and grew together with that team until become the ultimate champion? Clowns from Klutch and ESPN are shameless.

[@timothyhergert4199]

Didn’t Jordan make it to the playoffs under .500??? 😂

[@timothyhergert4199]

@@cortomaltese7171 bro everybody making superteams and he was never the first to do it. Have any explanation to why he has to dethrone superteams with lesser of players ? Who has ever done that and ran the nba doing it ? Nobody , so why is that the standard ?

[@yrnxkj7607]

86 Bulls literally won 30 games 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@beehives9043]

We love you guys Skip and Shannon, no matter any negative energy or things you may get thrown at you, us true fans of you guys love you, I know this may be so small you’ll never see it but I admire you guys please always stay friends brothers, in a world and country so filled with hate, to see you two working together should inspire nations, a black and white man that genuinely have love for each other is a GREAT sight to see, I’m inspired and look up to you guys, thank you.

[@HoodieBreezy]

Are they on vacation or why ain't they uploading any videos?

[@AfanteMusic]

The reason MJ's losing effort 63 points is put on a pedestal is because of who he did it against. You had THREE (3) hall-of-famers in Bird, McHale, and Parrish that couldn't stop a one-man-show. I remember watching that game with my own eyes. Everyone who saw the game were in disbelief that not only could MJ score that easily against them, but almost beat what was universally considered the best team by far in the Celtics.

[@homartorres4529]

Aaaaaaand he got swept.

[@blond1n]

Reminds you of LeBron against GSW (Klay, Curry, Steph) and him almost pulling through...

[@dizzvideovision4606]

Omg 😂 a sweep! Jordan was nothing but a ball hog and obviously 63 pts and what? Exactly 😂 not too much important. Lebron would have 63pts, 13 rebs and 16 assist and most likely won at least 1 game

[@AfanteMusic]

@@dizzvideovision4606 A ball hog that is 6 and 0 in the finals! ;-)

[@AfanteMusic]

@@dizzvideovision4606 BTW... It kills me when folks talk about what Lebron would've done. What did Lebron do against Kobe? And we all know that Kobe is a lesser carbon copy of MJ...SO there is your comparison. How about Lebron get past Kahwai's defense first...another player who is most similar but not as good as MJ.

[@76Hawkeyes]

Michael Jordan is my GOAT. NOBODY WILL CHANGE MY MIND!!!!!!

[@DAS63]

Micheal Jordan doesn’t even think he is the GOAT, would that change your mind?

[@76Hawkeyes]

@@DAS63 nope.

[@incredibilistic]

I challenge anyone to watch The Last Dance and tell me that LeBron's journey in the NBA was as difficult or impressive. Also, show me where LeBron had to go against a team like the Detroit Pistons. Show me when one of his teammates would leave to go to Vegas in the middle of a Playoff and/or Finals run. Show me when one of LeBron's teammates went down in a pivotal Game 6 and had to carry the team to a win (I'm referring to Game 6 against the Jazz when Pippen's back was hurting him so much that he was barely even a factor in the game). Also, show me when LeBron won 3 chips in a row, lost his father, left the league to play baseball then came back and won 3 more rings. Show me where LeBron signed with Nike and took them from barely being on the radar to one of the most successful shoe companies in the world. Show me a time when LeBron played all 82 games for several seasons in a row. I don't know why Shannon wants this to be true. Why does LeBron want it to be true? Why does LeBron desire so much to be the GOAT? My guess, daddy issues. I don't think LeBron has a mentor or a father figure so there's no one around to keep him grounded and humble.

[@chadhenderson9732]

When Jordan hit his late 20s he never lost again...period.

[@youtubewatcher4955]

Get used to this people cause soon as Lebron retires people gonna be comparing him to some young kid. Then the Lebron stans will be just like the MJ stans as the cycle continues.

[@Udon_Noodle]

Disregarding intangibles off the court, Lebron has had the hardest NBA career of all time. The amount of pressure put on this man to defy the odds time and time again is staggering and when he happens to do it what most people do is downplay or asterisk every accomplishment he has. No disrespect to Jordan or Kareem, but Jordan was an Idol in the 90’s and got his way with everything; Kareem had to live up to Wilts dominance early in his career but had more help in elevating his career. I don’t think anyone could have came in with the amount of pressure Lebron had and have gotten this far with what he had.

[@invalidusername201]

lebron had that pressure because he had to live up to mj the TRUE goat and surpass him but he's fallen short of that so you're right... MJ had it easier because he ACTUALLY lived up to his potential

[@KriispyPotatoes]

Lebron asked for the pressure, he got a “chosen 1” tattoo on his back. But let’s not pretend like LeBron has reached Jordan’s level of greatness.

[@lowellandrews5623]

I can't agree with this because jordan had to learn to overcome. People forget the media doubted and challenged jordan his whole career just like lebron the difference is jordan took on the challenge and shut them up......still waiting for lebron to shut up critics and his career is almost over

[@eazy8585]

@@invalidusername201 Micheal Jordan had nothing to do with the pressure on Bron. Bron came in the league at 18 and was the number 1 pick going to a team that never won anything.

[@invalidusername201]

@@eazy8585 ofc he did wtf he literally tatted chosen one, if that's not a shot at mj idk what is

[@frederickjones5681]

I think Bill Russell had a tougher road than both I mean he grew up in the 1950s and was a black man playing in the nba in Boston in 1960