Unemployed for the first time in 33 years

[@abiudjoseph6136]

Many larger companies discriminate against older workers due to insurance costs. Keeping the average age down gets them a favorable deal. A lot of older workers end up in the gig economy struggling to make ends meet.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I worked for s smaller company that lost one of their major accounts, but yes you do hear about older workers having a harder time finding work

[@07wrxtr1]

I love how people only care about certain forms of discrimination but when it comes to age = “um cool story bro”

[@Doug-kb7gx]

@@MoneyMike-1 I have started on LinkedIn and have received a few messages already. Thanks for the advise

[@philipdefrancisco7540]

@@Doug-kb7gx That is great. Really, I am sure you have the experience and knowledge to fit in somewhere.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

@@philipdefrancisco7540 I believe I will find something

[@KevinInPhoenix]

Don't take it too easy. Finding a new job is a full time job.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I'm looking but also taking the time to organize things that were neglected. I've also been contacted by several recruiters to speak with after the New Year

[@superman9772]

@@Doug-kb7gx well, sometimes you write the song and sometimes the song writes you...and we all dislike to have to dance to a song that we didn't chose... BUT, definitely organize your thoughts, your goals, and your responsibilities and collect your resources and analyze your current situation and environment... one note, a lot of persons have found that their lives are a lot less stressful and happier with less employment stress.. it really depends on what you consider are your goals and whether your ambitions really are what you want and how you weigh all that with your potentials and opportunities... one thing i've learned is that the job/career does not define the person (if it does define you then the song is kinda writing you )

[@Doug-kb7gx]

@@superman9772 Exactly. Most times we create our own stress. Control of your mind and thoughts=control of your life

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

​​@@Doug-kb7gxCompanies prefer to fire MARRIED parents as their time commitment to the company isnt fully dedicated due to Family obligation.m

[@Dad-in-WA]

I’m 49y old. Been laid off 4x. I learned after each layoff to be prepared. It’s a business, sounds like you’re not taking it personal. All the best

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thanks. It is business so being angry is wasted energy and changes nothing

[@Browningate]

When the same thing happened to me in 2023, it turned out to be a sizeable blessing because, as you pointed out, it made more time for projects, yes, but I was also able to spend a lot of time with family during those months, including my grandfather, for whom that would be his last year with us. And when it was all said and done, the job I ended up with was notably better, so, a win in almost every regard.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you for sharing. As we age our perspective on things change, things that were important become less so and thing we should focus on become more important. I am sure there is something out there for me.

[@puddles1364]

Just know you're not alone in this current economic market. Stay vigilant, use your contacts, and you'll find a new adventure soon. Wishing you luck.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. I already have a few prospects for after the new year, we'll see!

[@KennTollens]

Good luck. The job market is so cooked. My aunt was fired after working almost 40 years for the company too. I'm in the tech industry and had to get a min wage factory job to get by and even that wasn't easy to get.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. As we've gotten older we've made sure their was a "plan B" so we were somewhat prepared for a situation like this. Keep looking, something good will come your way.

[@Bigboss-xe6lm]

@@Doug-kb7gx Smart. Index funds saved my arse a few times. Lost a job again now, also to losing a big client. Tough times are ahead, indeed. Plan B hopefully will last till the depression/recession ends after this mess of an economy

[@budstep7361]

You're taking it really well. It is ridiculous that the economy has been mismanaged and bailed out for decades to the tune of making our economy non-competitive. The federal reserve's structure and reckless spending on govt's behalf has put us in a tough spot. Good luck, you'll do well with your attitude.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Anger and frustration in this situation is just wasted energy and changes nothing. I understand small business and have no ill will towards the company. I also know that it was not an easy choice for them.

[@RowdyRowdy55]

reckless spending= giving corporations billions of dollars for breaking the law.

[@Susie-QSlotsVegasStyle-th4wc]

First time in 33 yrs , that’s real good . I hope your prepared to be unemployed for a while. Even with skills hiring of older folks is problematic at best . Wish you the best

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. I'm prepared but not going to sit back and wait for something to show up

[@ronaldlee3537]

Sorry to hear that, especially around the holidays. I wish you well in finding new job. Calif has been hit pretty hard with layoffs, especially in the SF & Silicon Valley area.. I am in Los Angeles.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I heard that some areas are having a rough time. Just be prepared and hope the day doesn't come.

[@dapperlygrungy3189]

I'm sorry. I was in the same position back in 2008. It was a difficult time for me because I had no experience . I had to go to school as an adult and later found myself in the same position, but with a different company starting over at a base salary. I am much better now and you will too. i leaned experience is much more important than a college degree.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. We will be okay. I have a fairly wide skill set from life, jobs and age so I believe I will find something.

[@rustykatt3870]

All the best to you and your family....and to us all ✨😊✨.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you, to yours as well

[@SHUPIRATE1991]

Last year I had the same thing happen and it took me 6 months to find a job. My age was a concern but I feel I don’t look my age. It took a while to find something and I pray for you. Use your contacts

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Glad it worked out for you. I do have quite a few contacts. We'll see what happens.

[@thorsrensen3162]

I hope you have some emergency funding saved up so this situation will not have too deep impact. In that way the new situation can be a blessing and the oppprtunity to experience some new things in life. Perhaps you may accept a lower paid job but if you are not living very expensive lifestyle it may not even be a problem, and you may get a less stressful job.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

We will be okay. We are certainly not rich (probably not even middle class by todays standards) but live within our means. No car payments and a small mortgage help.

[@glosantiago7]

I never put too much trust into these jobs. Especially now, too much corruptions, not enough morals.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Always have a plan b

[@kl-ge9bg]

Really like your positivity. All the best!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Anger and worry are good ways to waste energy that could be focused on something productive. Thank you

[@rustykatt3870]

Don't know if it helps, but I watched the commercials, even the ones at the end. It may bring in a little bit of $ for you. All the best to you and your family....and to us all ✨😊✨.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thanks for watching. At this point I make nothing from KZbin, just sharing my journey

[@SteveMNash]

Hope you are able to "enjoy" this unexpected time - thanks for sharing, from a fellow currently employed person.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

We'll have to make some adjustments but it's going to be okay. Being angry or upset is just wasted energy that can be put to better use. Thank you for taking the time to comment. Have a Merry Christmas!

[@ActiveAtom]

You likely got this stay focused I am 61, I stopped working for others at 29 with best friend and business partner 26 now 58 and began our current business 32 years ago now, we are happy, and it worked out for us I am sure it will work out for you as well. Lance.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I'm glad it worked out for you guys. I'm sure it will work out okay

[@nickphang2293]

Same here! Looking for a job in ur 50s is challenging!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I knew that I wouldn't be alone in this. Keep looking and even apply for things you may think you are not qualified for, you never know.

[@edhcb9359]

I am 55 and also have been lucky enough to stay gainfully employed for 33 straight years. I am not worried about ageism, the slow job market, or anything or the rest of it because again, having been employed for 33 straight years , I’m financially set if this is it for my career.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

It's great that you had the forethought to put yourself in a good position

[@danimartinez8838]

Subscribed. The algorithm probably brought me here for a reason. I'll follow you journey. Keep it up mate! :)

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thanks for watching and subscribing. With what we have planned it should be interesting!

[@PianoMatronNeeNee]

So sorry. No doubt you will find something soon ❤

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you.

[@MM-sy6yp]

I was 48, lost my job. It took me 3 months and 10 interviews to get something.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I'm glad it worked out for you. Persistence pays off.

[@jhaslock]

Enjoy your time!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I have been!

[@kimobailey2926]

Best thing that ever happened to me ! Allowed me to start my own business for the last 35 years .

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I had owned my own business in the past, could do it again. We'll see

[@postedback]

Good luck man! My uncle tought me as a kid to treat everyday as it is the last day.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. Good advice, all we have is the moment we are in!

[@NattyNarwhaal]

Same here. I'm scheduled to be separated Dec 31 due to a restructuring to reduce. And management is still sending emails congratulating everyone for an exceptional year of record profits and growth 🙃

[@Doug-kb7gx]

That's the way the world works at this point. I hope that you are/were somewhat prepared. Good luck to you and remember that you are not alone.

[@theconfusedphilosopher4724]

Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to keep you on instead of paying out a massive severance?

[@Doug-kb7gx]

That's not how businesses think.

[@glennday7802]

No. The company has evaluated his productivity and decided they're better off without him.

[@fremontpathfinder8463]

@@glennday7802 No they have evaluated CEO salaries and shareholders. It's not about productivity

[@icyjake]

You are a brave man for talking about your bad emotion and experience on the internet. Hang tough brother. It is an opportunity to start something new whether it is a job or a business. Your previous employer's loss is your gain.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I just hope to be able to help people. If I help just one person decide to prepare for or navigate this type of situation it's worth my time.

[@mannyak832]

Good luck man!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you! Just another one of life's challenges.

[@ddellwo]

How old are you, how close were you to retirement, and what did you get for severance? I just turned 60 a few weeks back and if my company started walking around the office with buyout packages I’d be all over it! With the number of years I have in I’d be eligible for over a year’s worth of severance pay - I’d probably just call it a career and get an early start to retirement………🥳

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Close enough to have been/ be thinking about it. Small company= no severance

[@chrislim7976]

​@@Doug-kb7gx You don't look anything like someone working for 33 years. That's a big deal in the hiring process. That's just reality. People discriminate. You're lucky in this regard.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

@@chrislim7976 Thank you. The 33 years is just the last time I didn't have a job but I've been working full time for 40 years

[@chrislim7976]

@@Doug-kb7gx Then that makes it more incredible. You must have a low stress approach to life. 😊

[@hobgoblin4614]

Losing the job may be a blessing. Try something new. Try something on your own. May be better than what you had.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

It's certainly not the end of the world. All options are open at this point.

[@Minimalici0us]

I'm 35 and have switched 12 jobs since 2008. I don't mind.. My goal to become self employed one day

[@Doug-kb7gx]

What are you waiting for? One day never comes.

[@murrayeldred3563]

You had a good run.... I have had to work overseas for much of my life to secure employment....from Ireland and the UK....I am 70 and still working because my CV is always out online....been to many countries....mouths to feed....so action stations.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. Sometimes we have to go where the jobs are. All the best to you

[@yardboy3955]

Been through three layoffs in my working career. I made it to social security somehow and avoided being homeless. It wasn’t easy.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Life isn't easy but you need to get up everyday and move.

[@PBC2520]

A while back I wanted to remodel my basement, deck, and other things. Insane prices for simple drop in ceilings, and deck rebuilds. I would have hired someone if they were more affordable. The point I am trying to make is how about starting your own business! From home repair to you name it. Around here I can’t find a decent plumber. Just a suggestion. When ever one door closes another one opens.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Everything is on the table at this point. Thank you for the suggestion

[@tomgeorgestory]

I Don't want to go back. Already had some side hustles and going to become self employed. Good luck to you!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. This is still very new so we are still weighing options. Good luck to you as well!

[@RealRetirementRants]

Did you get any kind of severance package? My hubby had been laid off at age 55, after 17 years with one company - and was expected to train the new guy (in another state) and got zero in severance. Such a slap in the face. It took him many years to find a decent job - not a great job, but a decent job. Sigh.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I will be getting a small bonus in a week, that's about it.

[@David-bz1ou]

Sorry to hear about your endeavor sir

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you, sometimes these things have a silver lining

[@David-bz1ou]

@@Doug-kb7gx Keeping you in prayer

[@anhbaoconnecticut3128]

Have a positive attitude makes a big difference in any situation. Come up with a plan. In the meantime have a happy holiday.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Being negative is just wasted energy. Happy holidays to you as well

[@adrianwindle4616]

Good luck!!😊

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thanks!

[@shirleypoplo-ej7lz]

I was with a company 22 years then got kicked to the curb !!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Unfortunately it happens. Keep your head up, something will come your way.

[@Alaninbroomfield]

I work as a field tech, hands-on. My job cannot be "outsourced" to India, but our customers CAN go with competing companies. I do not take the job for granted, I save money so that I can wait out any downtimes, just in case. I know a lot of people that depend on 2 incomes to maintain their household, but I've always gotten by just fine on my own.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Always live below your means and have a plan b. You are on the right path

[@tippytoe1250]

My husband and I also manage to live off of just one income. Last year I was laid off right before the holidays. It took me a good 5 months to find a new job. I took 2 months off to just spend time with the family until the new year. We always saved because we knew rainy days are inevitable in life.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

@@tippytoe1250 It's good to be thinking about possibilities, good and bad, so when something happens there is little panic.

[@sunny1433]

I’ve been there several times, it’s a devastating feeling. Your daily purpose is gone, the work relationships are gone and the loss of income is a gut punch. Unemployment is only for a 6 mth period , only pays 66% of what you made & that time goes quickly. Unemployment usually offered free re-training opportunities, look into them. Consider a new skill set something totally different from your career to date. I went from being a VP in Banking to becoming a Nurse. Why? Because as a nurse I could always find work & the field interested me.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

The whole thing is very new and I'm trying to stay focused on securing a position. I agree, you need to be open to new things. Nursing is a fairly secure job and I see openings all the time.

[@azgardenlover370]

Nursing is not so secure if you dont have the jab. My daughter has been having to do temp work because of that, and those are usually very short term contracts. She can have pretty large gaps in between at times.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

@@azgardenlover370 As with a lot of jobs they can depend on where you are located. In our are there seams to be a shortage of nurses.

[@sriramcan]

the government first needs to cut the benefits to those lazy people having unlimited kids and never work

[@Doug-kb7gx]

It has been made too easy to chose not to work

[@chrislim7976]

For someone who lost a job of 33 years you seem very even keeled and balanced. That is important how you come across because companies can't care about your feelings in the hiring process. As a hiring manager who has my share of job losses you seem very competent and professional. Unfortunately you'll be working again at some point and this is really the only time one is truly off so try to pivot and enjoy some time for yourself.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. I am working on things that I have postponed or neglected while also looking out for the next opportunity.

[@lurchusa1299]

I was in the same position. 8 years with a electric utility company working in IT and as usual with tech workers, I was laid off once the company was starting to loose money. Disregard all the BS that was blown up my butt about how important I was and how there is nobody else to support all the legacy programs. Once the bottom line is involved, NOBODY is indispensable!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

That's why I was let go, no longer fit on the bottom line.

[@elmobolan4274]

Years ago I came to the conclusion that the moment you land a job, you better get you life in order and pay off some stuff and save cuz it going to happen again, sooner than later.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Words to live by

[@TeslaRules1856]

Sometimes things like this happen. I am sorry, its hard when your older. At nearly every company I was at in my career I always considered they could let me go at anytime. Because of this I always tried to keep my network growing, my skills developing, and my resume up to date. I am deeply concerted about 2025 for the economy and jobs.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Most every job is "at will" so it can end at any time for any reason, be prepared. I agree, things may get a little ugly next year. With ugly comes opportunity though.

[@BrisLS1]

Look at the upside. You have a good web-cam, a nice video background, a working home PC with internet, good communication skills. You'll get re-hired.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thanks. I believe there are opportunities out there.

[@Number704]

Just remember it's not your fault man.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

It comes as a bit of a shock but I understand it's a business choice

[@argopunk]

Good luck. In 33 years I've been fired once, laid off 3 times, and I also quit twice. All corporate and one political role. I'm currently six years at the same gig and loving it. That's a long run for me. All I know is change is constant and looking for a job is a full-time job (if you want or need one). I've become a dividend-stock junkie, which has changed my life--but it's also a full-time job in a sense.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

In the past 10 years my wife and I have worked to be more secure and be prepared for situations like this. I am also a fan of dividend stocks but this market has made it harder to find "deals"

[@rockpadstudios]

I made it through many recessions but in the early 2000's while going through a divorce I got hit. I was months away from living in my car. I was lucky and was slowly able to build up to my normal salary. It made me save for a rainy day.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Sometimes it take events like those to wake you up to being prepared. Glad it worked out for you

[@Bigboss-xe6lm]

Im not turning in my phone or laptop. Those have confidencial files on it and emails and will be destroyed on my watch, writing zeroes or filling up the drives with files is not enough. Sorry for the weird rant

[@Doug-kb7gx]

No need to be sorry, sometimes we just need to vent

[@Blessingstou]

You can look for another job and apply for unemployment

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Working on both

[@themitchielpricer]

old guy i worked with alway said..I WAS LOOKING FOR A JOB WHEN I FOUND THIS ONE..

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Yes, always have a plan B in your pocket.

[@oldnatty61]

Are those stereo speakers behind you?

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Yes, Magnepans

[@oldnatty61]

@@Doug-kb7gx nice!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Fantastic speakers for most music except rock ,metal etc.

[@ducheau100]

I bet you got a big severance

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Nope. Two weeks pay and a small bonus.

[@vincentnnyc]

what was your current job before you got laid off?

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I worked as a manufacturers representative in the plumbing industry.

[@nedas9187]

Are you good to retire? Do you have enough to get by for 6 months until next job? Will you be OK if you next job is 50-60% pay of your previous job? I hope so. Good luck and keep us posted.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

We are (were) about 6 months from our retirement target but not retirement itself. Emergency fund, emergency fund, very important! Thank you, we do have some interesting things planned.

[@oscargrainger2962]

33 years is a third of a lifetime. That is a long time. It will be hard but it’ll pass.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Yup, if your not careful you'll wake up one day and be old

[@fremontpathfinder8463]

Do you have a bachelor's degree? You could substitute teach. It pays higher in blue states than red states. Just something to look into

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I really don't have the patience for todays youth. Thanks for the suggestion though.

[@heymoe1179]

Any pension...or severance pay...a 401k? Hopefully you have something to bridge the gap to 62 Social Security.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

We have been "getting our house in order" for the last 9 years. No CC debt, no car payments etc. so I believe we'll be okay.

[@07wrxtr1]

I put in an entire yard when I left my last job…. Probably gonna be a repeat here soon with the way the market is going. Best part: as a guy you don’t need a lot to survive

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I'm finishing some projects that would have taken weeks to do if I was working. Be prepared!

[@giasone777]

Wow lucky guy, 33 years working!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

33 years since the last time I was laid off. Started full time work over 40 years ago

[@RinkyRoo2021]

If you worked a plumbing Mfg ,you could probably be a plumbers helper no problem The labor pool is terrible in construction so it may no matter being a " old dude"

[@Doug-kb7gx]

True the labor pool is not very deep in the trades.

[@dianepaulin5324]

Expand this youtube site you have established. Show the jobs you are doing around the house, day trips, etc. Add catchy titles and you could be making money from youtube! Good luck to you and your family. I will subscribe and hope you do magnificently!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you for the tips. Up to this point KZbin has just been an occasional thing. Thank you for subscribing.

[@bigred8752]

Hang in there. I’ve been there a couple of times and always ended at a better place. Your company’s loss…

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Thank you. I believe I will end up better off

[@moneyindabank]

Working is a waste of life. Congrats on getting off the hamster wheel.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

It can be if you let it. Thanks

[@ZA1US]

so glad I'm self-employed and don't have to worry about this happening to me lol

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Being self employed does have some advantages

[@themitchielpricer]

tips i did.. find a good friend with good phone voice i had a sexy female ..make up a fake job inquiry and have a cheat sheet on questions to see if your getting a good reference i made a big differance to me.. mine was great relieved my mind..if they start asking unrelated questions just hang up.. if you have grown kids DONT do more favors bail outs on money issues .. get any all vacation/sick pay coming asap ..watch your 401k somtimes the employer is the common investor with out you knowing it

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I'm watching everything

[@RA-II]

If happens

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Yup, and life goes on!

[@fcukugimmeausername]

No job? Time to paaaarty.

[@bluered5527]

But if you don’t have savings cry😢

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Time to breath a little and finish some projects around the house. And crack open a beer!

[@sjchan3199]

​​@@Doug-kb7gxmake the most of your time 'their loss your gain'. If you look at your budget you might not have to work again at least full time. Look at your budget and msybe find ways to cut out spending, if you have emergency fund/ saving s ghat csn help to bsil you out. Its a bummer so close to christmas tho. You got the right attitude❤

[@Doug-kb7gx]

@sjchan3199 I look at it as an opportunity for a fresh start to the new year.

[@RowdyRowdy55]

It feels good doesn't it? You don't have to be a corporate rat anymore. Can you feel that? The weight of a corporation forcing you to prioritize it over yourself has been lifted from your life.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I do feel a lot lighter.

[@MetapaloozaShow]

Start fasting. Research crypto, talk to a financial advisor. And don’t buy things you don’t need for years. Have a plan!

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I had a plan, now adjusting plan, moving forward!

[@Nikotromus]

There are no jobs out there. Might want to look into getting your CDL instead of endlessly looking for another white collar job that does not exist.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Had a CDL in the past, wouldn't be too hard to get it again. Thanks for the tip

[@Nikotromus]

@@Doug-kb7gx - When I get laid off from my fake white collar job, I'll take a couple months off, and then just go get my CDL. the job market is toast. I don't have to learn these lessons for myself and waste months of time looking.

[@handlesrstupid123]

What this isnt normal in your life bring unemployed randomly.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

In life we need to be prepared for unexpected changes, while you can't cover every possible scenario being jobless is one you can.

[@handlesrstupid123]

@Doug-kb7gx Its bizarre you have never been jobless before

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I've been in the trades for over 40 years, 33 years ago I was laid off and immediately started a business

[@handlesrstupid123]

@@Doug-kb7gx Man you sound like a spoiled brat

[@glennday7802]

Companies NEVER fire employees that are productive and earning money for the business. In your case, the good news is Costco is hiring greeters.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Never?

[@laurenceotoole1700]

now that's certainly not true.

[@thephotochad]

Don't ever get up

[@Doug-kb7gx]

Need to get up and move everyday

[@Hi-ko9dv]

Fact - nobody cares

[@chrislim7976]

@@Hi-ko9dv Apparently you're wrong.

[@Hi-ko9dv]

@@chrislim7976possibly. But still employed!

[@chrislim7976]

@Hi-ko9dv When you're not, you've guaranteed no one here will care.

[@metropcs817-l8k]

I went to xray school at 47. I now travel making 6 figures. Saw the layoffs of 2024 coming since 2017. To be honest your screwed. Go to trade school plumbing, electrician or HVAC. Classes are full of students in their 60's. You're relax thinking is 100% wrong.

[@Doug-kb7gx]

I don't believe I'm screwed. I've had my Master Plumbers license in a couple of states for over 30 years

[@glennday7802]

@@Doug-kb7gx Right.They fired you because you're so valuable. 😆