Union Pacific GTEL "Veranda" Engine - Lionel Legacy

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

It's a beast all right! A few additional gas turbine bit of trivia. I ran into a man who worked for UP back when these locomotives were in service, and he told me if you want to know what they sounded like stand by the end of a runway when a jet airliner's taking off. They sounded just like that! Also, the Bunker C fuel oil UP used was really cheap stuff. UP purchased some US Navy surplus Bunker C oil once that they got a very good deal on, and it was a much better grade than they were used to. The gas turbines ran like rockets with the Navy fuel! The major thing that killed the "Big Blows" was the price of Bunker C fuel oil jumping in price during the 1960's as a lot of it was being utilized by the plastics industry. That jet exhaust was hot all right, UP crews were told NOT to idle the locomotives under bridges and risk damaging the structural steel. One other use for the onboard diesel engine (And I've been told the primary use) was to move the locomotives around the yards when using the gas turbine engine would be a waste of power and fuel. It was probably a lot easier on everyone's ears as well! Good presentation Sean! Thanks!

[@seanstraindepot]

That’s awesome info, thanks!

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

@@seanstraindepot You're welcome Sean!

[@trainroomgary]

I am also a RR History Nerd - Cool history on this loco 👍 • Cheers from the Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂

[@ARMYVETT]

I JUST RECIEVED # 65 TODAY FROM EBAY. I LOVE THIS THING.

[@JHChannel35]

Love this beast. Just got my US Army version and ran some of my Menards military cars behind it.

[@andyoutwesttrains]

Awesome video Sean. Your layout is amazing. I love the history and being in Utah I especially love the UP history

[@CalebsTrains]

Amazing locomotive. Thanks for sharing.

[@billysdepot1090]

Hi Sean good video on the Verenda always good to know the History. I have the TMCC great Engine. Have a great one

[@rvnmedic1968]

What a wonderful RR setup! Great scenery, buildings, roads, etc. Perfect!

[@seanstraindepot]

Thank you very much!

[@luccislayout9520]

Awesome video and thank you for the history. I just unboxed mine, same road number. Love the Superbass unit. Sounds great incredible

[@vincentvanpaepeghem4844]

Great video Sean! That's definitely one awesome locomotive! Great sounds and paint scheme! Thanks for sharing! Have a great and awesome day! 🚂

[@jogbutchtrain1]

Having my MTH Proto 1 upgraded anxious to get it back and see what goes. I really loved the PS1 brought it brand new yrs ago and I amj constructing a new layout with PS2, PS3 and TMCC engines Thank you so much for this review

[@Nyislander313]

Still got my TMCC version, love it!

[@MrDanielmarlowe]

Never realized they were die cast, very cool!

[@calopez2350]

Very cool. Beautiful engine. Thank you Sean for the information . Cesar

[@seanstraindepot]

Glad you liked it!

[@heiliner]

Very Well Done Explanation! Great Layout! Amazing Lionel Diecast Engine. 👍

[@seanstraindepot]

Thank you very much!

[@heiliner]

@@seanstraindepot I saw the Union Pacific 1st or 3rd generation in Ogden UT. My outside track is 0-72 main line and 20 years later I wish it had been 0-82 with the secondary 0-72. Big engines do so much better on the 0-82.

[@seanstraindepot]

@@heiliner Bigger is always better but this runs fine on my 072 curves.

[@mikeyanello3664]

Sean I was able to get the army veranda and can’t wait to run it.

[@davidkoehler136]

impressive

[@mikeyanello3664]

Sean I enjoyed the video. Originally ordered the Army themed veranda then decided to pass on the engine. Now I am having second thoughts and may purchase one. It seems really loud and neat.

[@mr.shadestrains6033]

Very nice train 🚂😎👍 So kool

[@seanstraindepot]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@timstrainroom8007]

Amazing engine and excellent history lesson. The stream was spectacular to say the least. I’ve searched high and low for a Legacy System and had one on order only to discover they are no longer being delivered to stores. Oh well, I dread the phone/tablet controller but I do have an TMCC controller so I’ll experiment with that. Also Sean, I just placed my order for benchwork from Tim Foley at Mianne Benchwork. He designed the benchwork based on the odd shaped room I’m using and it will have a lift gate. I’ll be checking your video again and again when I get to installing it and I will be wiring much like you did for controls. Having access from both sides I think will be paramount to operating. Thanks again for the info on that. I am really excited. Ok buddy, have a good rest of your weekend. Peace! Tim

[@seanstraindepot]

Sounds exciting. Tim is great to work with at Mianne.

[@davidjenkins1484]

Thanks for the video. Good history lesson and feature demonstration. Gorgeous train layout and train room! Did you build it yourself? A #69 Lionel Veranda GT is in transit to me and I am really looking forward to it! Assigning the same engine number to both units and turning off the coupler on the loco and the dialog on the tender is a simple setup solution but I want to experiment with assigning separate engine numbers and then forming a lashup. With the tender assigned as the rear unit. That should definitely take care of the coupler configuration, and allow for separate unit control as needed, if ever needed. It is unusual to have separate crew talk in both units of a locomotive set so it will be interesting to see how a lashup handles it. I noticed that a used TMCC Lionel Veranda in excellent condition was available on eBay for $650 but I think the modern features on this one of; rule 17 LED lighting, additional horn and bell sounds, additional crew talk dialog and speed step turbine smoke and sound activation make this one worth it.

[@AarmOZ84]

I have seen x26 GTEL in Ogden, UT. Such a LARGE train too.

[@davidstevens9002]

Great looking engine. I bet it is a good puller.

[@seanstraindepot]

I think so too, haha

[@northpennvalleysteamrailroad]

Awesome video friend!!

[@seanstraindepot]

Thank you 🤗

[@davidjenkins1484]

I got the UP GTEL #69 and went right for lashing the locomotive with the auxiliary fuel tender but I ran into problems. Using cab/base firmware 1.70/1.60 I assigned the locomotive ID # 69 and the tender #68 and then configured the tender as an aux tender because that's what it is. I then built the lash up. The slide button settings for crew talk, signal sounds and coupler don't matter because the lash up software over rides that. I turned off the smoke because I don't want to be fooling with smoke when I'm trying to get the bugs out of a new locomotive like this. Crew talk, signal sounds and train link can be setup in the lash up build program. Using the build program I set the train to 69, assigned crew talk to the locomotive and signal sounds to both the locomotive and the tender. As the lead unit, train link does not apply to the locomotive. With everything set properly I pressed set and seemed to get encouraging responses from the locomotive and tender. All seemed simple and deceptively smooth. I was ready for some serious electric training! I turned the throttle and sound ramped up in the tender but nothing happened. Crew talk dead, horn dead, bell dead, elecrocoupler worked on front not rear, no sound effects in locomotive. Sound volume was up. Back up light on tender, dead. Addressing the units individually and everything worked fine. I worked on it for a couple of hours yesterday afternoon trying every configuration I could think of and nothing worked. I started thinking that I would like to see if the locomotive could fly but I decided maybe it's best to just give it a rest. Got to it this morning, turned it on and by golly the locomotive rolled as train 69! The other things still didn't work but at least the train moved. So I set the tender back to tender and reset the lash up and the back coupler fired! Only now the front coupler didn't fire. Back up light still no-go. I called Lionel customer service tech support. She was no help. I knew more about than she did and I was answering her questions. She said she would pass my case up to higher level tech support and he would be back to me today, which he never did. I noticed that the train seemed to change every time I set the lash up so I just kept resetting the lash up and finally the whole thing worked after only about 3 hours of wasted time this morning. Now with it in lash up. the control is much better and the units can be addressed individually if needed. The sound is much better. The horn has much more dynamic range, with the bass from the tender and mid range from the locomotive. Engine roar is in stereo. Wheel grind on straights and curves is in stereo. Crew dialog comes out of the locomotive as it should. Holding Aux1 for 3 seconds starts and automated animation mode which is a lot of fun. So I don't believe this is a hardware problem. I believe it is a firmware problem with the Cab2 firmware which is trying to lash up a locomotive with signal sounds and crew talk and its own rear elecrocoupler with a tender which has the same. This train has 3 electrcouplers, that's unusual. I think Lionel needs to update the firmware, which is several years old to accommodate this locomotive and maybe others.

[@smiller6217]

Just wondered if you know why there is 3 crew members in the cab? Very nice and informative review of this engine. Thank you

[@seanstraindepot]

That's a great question and I do not know! Not sure if that was normal for these crews on this locomotive or a Lionel thing. If anyone knows please comment!

[@robertbirath6728]

Hi Sean. I am a regular subscriber to your Channel. I enjoy hearing the history of the trains. You have a great layout. So much to see. You do a great job of explaining how the engines work. I am always learning something new from you. You appear to be a very intelligent person and mature beyond your years. I am curious about how old you are. How long have you been collecting trains? Is the Legacy Lionel's Premier engines and cars? Great video. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to your next video. I'm in SoCal. What part of the United States do you live in? Thanks again.

[@rc4lifebnsf]

Plz do a layout tour/running trains

[@michaelgmoore5708]

Incredible engine and is as loud as the real thing too. I would think that model could pull more than 40 boxcars with ease. How much $$ did that 2 unit cost? And what year catalog is it in?

[@seanstraindepot]

It's pretty loud, lol. It's in the 2021 Lionel catalog, can't remember which volume. It's on their website.

[@tom25pa]

Is that the super bass tender making that strange vibrating noise with the crew talk?

[@michaelhband]

👍👍👍

[@therosejewelrailroad489]

I could have bought the older rail king version of this a while back. I turned it down. I’ve always steered away from locomotives that were unique. I’m different that way. I’ve always liked locomotives that were common. I have to admit your history lesson made me second guess my decision to turn the rail king version down.

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

My attitude is if I like it, I buy it. Although my primary interest is in the New York area railroads I do make exceptions. If I can afford it that is!

[@davidkoehler136]

steam engines used the same oil

[@seanstraindepot]

Did not know that!

[@davidkoehler136]

@@seanstraindepot Its not like oil as we think of it Kind in between oil and a grease, they also use/'it in ships

[@wayneantoniazzi2706]

@@davidkoehler136 Bunker C's really, to use a convenient term, the "bottom of the barrel" left over after the crude oil's refined into other products like gasolene, diesel fuel, and the like. However, some grades of Bunker C are better than others.

[@midnightexpress8556]

The only thing I don’t like about it is the lettering it looks to thick for Union pacific lettering might just might be my opinion.

[@2railnation]

From videos I've seen, this is exactly how some of them looked.

[@sadcattoclips]

Bruh the numbers on his engine is 69 Gigity