United Center "campus" could be HUGE for Chicago Sports

[@brodiebrazil]

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[@vladimirdoyle3934]

Our stadiums need to be built like this. Very limited parking, increase in public transportation, smaller venues outside of the main one, hotels, restaurants.

[@jhodapp]

100%…the era of the car is over, cars are but a tool that don’t do very well in dense, walkable cities.

[@4149stonepony]

Says the idiot liberal.

[@timflynn5562]

A new Green line CTA station just opened this week 0.4 miles from the United Center - further making this spot more accessible. That's the cherry on top in my opinion!

[@mcmike250]

Would love to see Jerry do the same thing for the White Sox. The parallels between his bulls and Sox are the same. Huge parking lots around Sox Park that could be transformed in the same exact way as this. Would be cheaper and makes way more sense. That with renovations to Sox Park would be great.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

Private Money 💵 Only

[@mariocisneros911]

Can't wait for Jerry to be GONNNE

[@4149stonepony]

Why would you love to see this kind of public raping? Do you want to pay for massive developments for billionaires because you hate cars and the middle class. Who are not going to be able to afford these fake pie in the sky developments in the first place. But if I am being serious this kind of thing is a pipe dream that will need public money and every citizen and Chicagoan should revolt at the idea of spending our taxes on private real estate developments that forces us to spend more money on transit, disturbs and gentrifies a city neighborhood and will be almost reliant on public subsidies to get any of private building built and public dollars right off the top for new public facilities that are promised in these BS developments.

[@sdeepj]

Induced demand. People are more likely to drive if they know they’ll have parking. There’s no need to have that kind of parking in a city like Chicago, which has one of the best mass transit in the country

[@NoahOfTheBoat]

There is a CTA train which is within a block of the United Center. Rumor has always been the owner Reinsdorf has fought against putting a Station there so he wouldn't lose his parking money.

[@4149stonepony]

Driving is not illegal Karen, people drive regardless of esoteric BS theories from the little bike people and tree huggers. But that is beside the point. Building 7B dollars worth of buildings is not going to happen in ten years let alone without public money. These types of projects are BS meant to fool liberal idiots who hate cars and the middle class into paying for rich real estate developers useless projects. And while we are at it do you think all these people on the west side want to be bombarded by masses of tourists and out of towners in THEIR neighborhood. It all sounds good to virtue signal about hating cars, until there are people who end up having to deal with gentrification and the destruction of their neighborhood by outside interests.

[@ronpeacock9939]

Yeah, there are only two cities that I've seen with decent enough mass transit to work well.. NY and Chicago. It's even worse west of St. Louis where most cities were built mostly after the advent of cars. They are often not very non-driver friendly.

[@geoff3103]

LOL don't kid yourself.

[@koskism9181]

@@NoahOfTheBoatI’ve heard this as well. With the Damen green line stop being built for the DNC and the 1901 project announced I’d expect to see a Madison pink line stop being built soon

[@Jared40]

I prefer districts!! The Colorado Rockies here in Colorado have MacGregor Square really cool village amazing hotel and nice reataurants. My wife and I were on vacation last year and saw Rockies play in KC vs Royals crazy to see how big parking lot is there even though its next to Arrowhead😅

[@JonDoe-ln6nl]

The arenas/stadia should be surrounded by a neighborhood (hopefully an organic neighborhood) ... the way it USED to be. Everything was built center-city - until the 70s when center-cities were abandoned for the suburbs - walkable, mom-n-pop restos/bars/shops just across the street. The modern "Entertainment District" is a 'Disney Land' - built, owned, leased by the team owner and/or developer to maximize opportunities to separate fans from their money for their profits.

[@4149stonepony]

building a fake neighborhood was never the way it "used to be". No matter how many white liberals and WASP's feel entitled to destroy a neighborhood.

[@andrewmccampbell3877]

With the new Damen green line infill station being complete soon, parking will also be needed a lot less. I’d rather take the L instead of pay $50 for parking, and I imagine when parking becomes even more limited, more people will take the L.

[@koskism9181]

Not mentioned is the accessibility of public transit in the area. I would love an easy connection at the UC and it removes the need for as much parking

[@galen.g126]

i read somewhere that they’re pushing for the CTA to build a pink line station on either madison/adams/monroe. which of course would be paid for by taxpayers. also a green line station off damen opens in august!

[@arthurkorff]

No ask for public money is refreshing

[@frankie4467]

In the renovations cup holders better be included in the seats.

[@drewmorrison]

They won’t be… I read why they do that and it’s because people drink like 30% faster when they can’t set their drink down. It’s annoying and messed up.

[@BigBlueHorses]

This is why Brodie has followed and reported the Utah stuff. These entertainment districts and developments are a growing trend with owners.

[@geoff3103]

the latest bad idea from owners

[@robcohen5585]

Whenever a sports team owner says there will be no public financing for a new project, rest assured there will be some public financing. Cities will end up with infrastructure costs like new streets, installation of traffic signals and a myriad of other costs. As for parking garages, the soon to open Intuit Dome in Inglewood has two large garages and a pedestrian bridge will connect them to the arena site which is across a busy street. Fans will not have to cross Prairie Blvd., which normally is quite heavy with traffic so a bridge is necessary. Another bridge may be built to connect the Intuit Dome with the Sofi Stadium development across Century Blvd., again, another major and busy street but I haven't seen anything new on that. While Intuit Dome is touted as being built with private money, there were significant infrastructure costs borne by Inglewood.

[@4149stonepony]

Right on, no doubt who will be the main financier of this kind of pipe dream? The public. I hope none of this crap gets built. IF they want this shit, pay for it yourselves and don't destroy the neighborhood with pack'em and stack'ems and bike lanes.

[@briansieve]

A garage is always better tan a parking lot. Mass transit that offers a variety of arrivals and continues to depart long after the event are best.

[@vamoscruceros]

United Center Lot C is the site of the former Chicago Stadium.

[@WindyCityHawkey]

I'm looking forward to seeing the change and growth around the Madhouse on Madison as a Blackhawk Season Ticket holder who live in the St Louis area. I do have to drive to the UC for the games I go to so I hope this make difficult to get of the complex to drive home. Hopefully soon I will move to the Chicago Land area and be able to just use public transportation to go the game. I would use Uber when I go for games that are back to back in UC because I will stay at a Hotel but when it's 1 game I drive 4 and half hours north and after the game 4 and half south back home.

[@4149stonepony]

I hope your willing to pay for more taxes for the rich real estate developers too. Where do you think that money is coming from. It is a bad idea and the renderings are meant to fool the public into getting excited about being fleeced of their taxes to pay for corporate real estate welfare.

[@jhodapp]

I’m curious but why not take the Amtrak line from St. Louis to Chicago? The train hits speeds up to 110 mph now, so it’s definitely going to be faster than driving and you don’t have to worry about parking.

[@geoff3103]

allow me to play Devil's Advocate here, but the UC is pushing 30 years old and will need to be replaced in 20 years. Where will you build it if there are no more parking lots to build a new arena?

[@BrandanTheBroker]

Rebuild in place, move the Bulls to the Rosemont Horizon (don't know the new name but that's the name I grew up on). Smaller yes, but it's a temporary move that's not unheard of as long as it's temporary and not an Arizona Coyotes deal

[@geoff3103]

@@BrandanTheBroker that be what....2-3 seasons worth of games there? To bulldoze the old place and build the new arena? Rosemont Horizon (thats the name I grew up with too) will be busy with THREE teams playing there, and at the same time of year. It could be done but will b messy

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

Parking garages allow for multiple levels of you attend an event and expect to wait 1 hour plus to exit the garage, then you are more apt to hang out at the mix use area waiting for the cars in a hurry to leave the garage to exit

[@robserrano8971]

U can spend most of ur day in and around the venue.

[@JasonTzzz]

People aren't going to want to wait 1-2 hours to get out of a parking garage at 10:00pm on a Tuesday night when they have work the next day. The garage deck at Prudential Center is absolutely the worst place to park at a Devil's game because there's only 1 way in and out. It's a nightmare.

[@prestonradtke222]

Develop this area and with the west loops ever expanding footprint it’ll just form the western edge of that neighborhood. Exciting.

[@Kevo193]

Should add a pink line stop at Madison or Adams

[@scottNNJ]

Which is better - I think it depends on the situation. Take the sports complex in south Philadelphia. It used to be Veterans Stadium and the Spectrum, and over time they built three more venues and demolished the original two. They have ALWAYS shared parking amongst the venues, so use gets maximized, though it’s tight when events overlap. The complex is at the very end of one subway line, so transit isn’t that convenient. When the Capitals moved from parking-lot surroundings in Andover, MD to the then-MCI Center in downtown CD, they encouraged use of a robust transit system (which, though, needed later-night service) and stimulated business in the area. A similar model happens when the Devils moved from the Meadowlands to Newark. But the surroundings were organic city vibrancy. Parking is limited and relies on private commuter lots nearby. This model also works, though is different (people now get their alcohol at bars and restaurants near the arena rather than a cooler in the trunk stocked at their home liquor store). Different, but it works. I’m skeptical of the mixed-use development projects though, like in Chicago or (almost?) Phoenix. That’s not organic city vibrance; it’s fabricated and sterilized to try to promote an image. People don’t go events, particularly via mass transit, to shop (they can’t even bring their bags in the arenas anymore!). I fear these grand developments will become empty and neglected, especially when the team’s performance declines and people don’t attend the venues as often.

[@bkroeckel]

“Interesting to have an ice rink outside a building that has an ice rink inside of it”. During the holidays Newark has one at Mulberry Commons right across from the Prudential Center which has TWO indoor rinks (NHL game ice & practice facility)

[@adrianvarela2216]

Traffic isn't a problem. Just take the train and walk to the united center.

[@jhodapp]

100%…people complaining about parking are either suburbanites or aren’t used to living in a city with good (for North America) public transit.

[@babydrippa]

I think u beat depressed ginger to this stadium news. He's always first, impressive.

[@brodiebrazil]

he's all over things. it's also his full time gig i believe.

[@JonDoe-ln6nl]

And Depressed Ginger is CLUELESS. No insight, nothing but speculation, and lame opinions. DG is an amateur ... BB is a PROFESSIONAL.

[@noaho8457]

I have to agree. Brody is more open minded while Ginger definitely has some bias in his videos. Also Brody takes more time and his videos are well thought out and well done

[@Onunez23]

Ginger doesn’t have “bias” he just flat out doesn’t know what he’s talking about other than reading out of press releases.

[@Jared40]

Brodie is professional Ginger is a hack 😒

[@c.simmons2147]

There’s a new CTA station and they mention potentially asking the city to build another one on a different line near where the high rise apartments are going to go.

[@P0w2you]

Stadiums like Wrigley Field have it so good because of good transit that is almost two steps to walk to the stadium. So Wrigley field doesn't need huge parking lots. I think the United center could do a lot better the the fenced off lots that currently sit block after block away from the center, and with the new green line station and a possibility of an closer pink line station that could be really good for the area and the stadium.

[@JH-lu9lx]

I really think that public transportation is such a huge key to stadiums. The idea should be to discourage people from driving to the stadium but inorder to have any chance at that there needs to be proper public transportation.

[@GenXRealist]

The new Damon Green line stop is going to be less than.a 10 minute walk from the UC. On the east end of the building, the pink line passes right past the Jordan statue. Put another CTA stop there and you’re parking issues are solved

[@apeezy1790]

United center has good access to public transit so not as big of a deal compared to if it was somewhere like LA

[@beartackle]

Northwestern Wildcats, you get a stadium! Bears and White Sox, you might get a stadium! Bulls and Blackhawks, you get a new stadium area with a large mystery building! Chicago is all over the place with these stadiums. Keep up the great work reporting this, Brodie Brazil!

[@4149stonepony]

It is all BS meant to fool the public. These kind of things get some people excited. But why? to have your taxes spent on rich developers pipedreams. I hope all of them never happens, or at least with ZERO public money!

[@beartackle]

@@4149stonepony The Wildcats stadium is being built right now. Granted, they could change their mind and leave a not finished stadiu..

[@alexiscriollo2747]

My question 🙋‍♂️ would be what the lifespan of the United Center and when it reach its lifespan how the arena is going to be replaced??😊

[@danielsheill6752]

Great video!

[@neuman35]

Ballpark Village was built years after Busch Stadium was built.

[@brodiebrazil]

Just a few years. Not 30 years.

[@CMPunk-zi3bc]

Brodie where is the Rays update video, apparently it got approval

[@JeffreyW67]

There is going to be some public investment. Talk of the CTA needing to build a stop on the Pink Line to better serve the new campus.

[@4149stonepony]

And I guarantee the CTA part would not come but for 20 or 30 years after this pie in the sky happens.

[@gabemorrison9702]

This definitely needs to happen. United Center is a great venue, but there is nothing around there to do pregame or postgame.

[@4149stonepony]

No it does not. Parking is great and you can get their very quickly from all parts of the city. With this kind of development it will take much longer and be more dangerous, but it will be a cute clusterfuck filled with pack'em and stack'ems. Anything that gets rid of cars fools the libturds does not it?

[@silentavenger24]

Currently there is a public high school and section 8 housing surrounding the stadium. Looking at the renderings you don’t see those depicted in the after picture.

[@Taco1011]

One I hope does something like this is Dodger Stadium in LA, and Angels Stadium in Anaheim. Both surrounded by giant parking lots. Regarding Angels Stadium, you have to walk quite a ways from the stadium to catch the train back to LA from Anaheim.

[@4149stonepony]

No, no, no, It an idiotic pipe dream meant to fool the public. Both those stadiums are great and don't need anti car demolition man style development to turn into a lame clusterfuck.

[@Taco1011]

@@4149stonepony do you take joy in calling people idiots?

[@rhannah7873]

The Red Sox are planning on making a lot of redevelopment changes around Fenway as well.

[@4149stonepony]

Hopefully people in Boston are not as dumb as people in Chicago but real estate interests seem to think so.

[@_face773]

Don't need a music hall next to the UC

[@10InchSnow]

This is what they should do to Sox park, the entire neighborhood across the highway is empty. They dont utilize how much room there is to build

[@marvinwhittaker]

United Center does need a facelift, maybe sandblasting.

[@johnmaster3748]

The point he makes about the expanse of parking outside Arrowhead stadium is valid even though the Royals rely on the same lots. At half the seating capacity, Kauffman Stadium does not require as much acreage for parking as the neighboring building. So the potential for converting parking to...anything else...remains valid. Now, whether developers see potential in the "location location location" sense makes a whole other issue.

[@fredricardo3272]

The White Sox have been on the south side for more than a hundred years. Secondly, the concept of the so-called “sports village” was perfected by the Cubs long before the people had even thought of the idea. Finally, the answer to whether a stadium should be surrounded by parking lots can be found simply by looking across town at Wrigleyville. There are no large parking lots. Fans mostly rely on public transportation which stop right at the stadium because that’s what real cities do, not some overgrown suburbs which is what passes for most US cities.

[@memorama66]

it looks good as long as they include some multilevel parking garages.

[@bearworldwide101]

To answer one of your questions now a days sport teams went from needing the plethora of advertising in their parks to now needing an entertainment district livable spaces restaurants shopping etc to be used year round having the UC and whatever they own in land around in use 365 days a year it generates a ton more money than just the team. Remember team owners are also land owners real estate moguls etc. they want extra money to fall on. This would be great I hope they make another updated rendering proposal where they have more livable spaces entertainment district shopping food etc. All that plus that outdoor ice skating venue is what not just the UC needs but the whole west side needs as a boost for that area.

[@biblebelter9772]

Good discussion of what the future holds. My question is the future of cities in general. The nature of work has changed. Office buildings which housed workers with disposable incomes are becoming deserted as workers work from home and businesses downsize and move out of urban areas. NYC doesn't seem to be a problem as Yankee Stadium and MSG are packed. But what about other cities? The fact that private money is being used is encouraging as it reflects that those investing have done their homework and have confidence that access to the venue will not be that dependent on automobiles. I would be very leery if other cities tried this concept with public money.

[@4149stonepony]

Private money is not going to be used because this stuff is BS. It is meant to fool liberals who hate cars into getting fleeced out of their tax dollars. Everyone drives, it is not illegal, if parking lots are eliminated who can afford to park and attend? Why should John Q citizen pay for wealthy people to develop a campus and rich people to attend? the average fan and citizen should be pissed and hold their politicians accountable.

[@jeffjuracka7428]

This development should come with a city commitment to North South BRT on Ashland and Western

[@jamesbarrick3403]

Bears will build at Arlington Hts. This talk about coming back to the lakeshore is purely for negotiation leverage to get AH to play ball.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

Where’s the money 💵 coming from ❓ If it’s private , fine. I have no issues But, if ANY TAX MONEY 💰 is going into this project, SHAME ‼️ Chicago Schools 🏫 are one of the worst in the nation, with the new year coming up. That money should be used to help the Children of Chicago. I LOVE ❤ Sports, needs to be done ✅ in a more efficient way with these team Owners Just my 2 Cents I can’t believe it’s totally private 😂 Not Chicago way, I need to actually see if they keep their word

[@brodiebrazil]

appreciate your two cents, and more, literally! haha. from what has been made understood... it's all privately financed.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

@@brodiebrazil Well, that would be impressive, considering it’s Chicago Thank You

[@noaho8457]

Considering who owns the teams

[@4149stonepony]

The Chicago way says there will be a ton of public money given to it with no strings attached and more stupid and draconian taxes will be necessary to fund this pipe dream. We have nothing to fear they said "private" money meaning it will never happen and there is no one to fool.

[@ISpitHotFiyaa]

If it's truly private-investor funded then as far as I'm concerned private investors can do whatever they want with their money. But part of the reason there's so many parking lots there to begin with is that there isn't a whole lot of demand for that land. At one point the neighborhood was packed with housing but then it went through "urban renewal" and all that got bulldozed - eventually becoming parking lots (and other empty lots). So if nobody else has wanted to invest there (even after they built the new arena 30 years ago) why does it suddenly make sense to do so? Whatever. It's not my money. It's none of my business. I'd just be cautious. These team owners rarely do anything that doesn't cost the taxpayers in some way.

[@KANEEENAK]

philly looking at this 👀👀😂

[@dannythunder3180]

Surprised Depressed Ginger didn't report on this

[@ronpeacock9939]

I laugh at the campus idea and district complexes that Pro teams seem to want to build. First: who are they targetting? I say this because I know they are trying to squeeze every last cent from fans.. but the fan who has to commute (such as myself) this districts/campus's are grossly inconvienent... meaning... less hassle to stay home and turn on the tube. The fact of the matter being... The studies are there already... the ROI for sports teams is not what they want you to believe. Cities need to revisit the research.. for putting up billions to make millions is not a real investment.

[@4149stonepony]

God bless your soul for not being a moron!

[@AChicagosportsfan]

Bears are most likely focused on arlington heights, the new soldier field was a pure distraction pretty much

[@Richard-wl2nh]

I think they should built a new arena along with the entertainment district, how old is UC when this is all complete?

[@miguelsaucedo8789]

They're almost done with the green line L stop on Damen. They already built the new campus for Malcolm x college. I don't doubt they do what they say they will.

[@KANEEENAK]

the united center is litwralllt booked weekly. i'm not saying you're entirely wrong but you're underestimating the amount of concerts and conventions that are there year round. it's not only for sports. it's an arena.

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

Another sports revenue project but with no public money. Good deal. Airlines years ago set the mixed use district concept when they paid for terminals and controlled all the vending in their terminals.

[@4149stonepony]

Yeah okay crackhead, terminals and airports built with plenty of public money go into private hands, next to stadiums probably the second biggest scam in public development projects.

[@Mr.E723]

Get rid of the parking lots, take the L, it’s not hard.

[@Phil00484]

Bears are going to Arlington Hts.

[@diegokiwi1854]

wonder what Chicago Fire will do if the Bears move

[@mikegiammaria]

We'll see how long it takes for Jerry to get to Springfield with his hand out. Sell the team, Jerry.

[@techi9]

I think Brodie is in the acceptance phase of the A's leaving

[@Michael-go8ef]

Brody, love your videos!! Will you make a video on the collapsing RSN model and media landscape as a whole?

[@geoff3103]

Ugh, its gonna be horrible for fans getting out of there. HORRIBLE. And a "district" is needed there about as much as a 2nd NHL team.

[@4149stonepony]

So lets put this in perspective Jerry is going to be developing a 7b dollar project and his teams together are worth what? 4 billion? I would like to know the bank or investors that are going to extend him the credit and how long he will need to pay this off and at the benefit of whom? not his teams he will have less ownership stakes or a giant lone to pay for all these toys and the teams will suck forever until it is paid off. Logically this will never happen and the internet has a way of making people stupid.

[@CreightonRabs]

If the Reinsdorfs can afford this pie in the sky "entertainment district" as opposed to major renovations to the United Center, then they can sure as hell afford a new White Sox stadium. Then again, Nashville White Sox has a nice ring to it...

[@4149stonepony]

Love your comment! This development and the white sox other one is BS and so is the Chicago bears soldier field one BS too. These renderings are just there to get the public excited about getting screwed out of their tax dollars and paying for rich peoples toys.

[@bartphlegar8212]

Great idea, buuuut...All of these sports village projects are predicated - like everything else - on supply and demand. The Chicago Loop currently has a 30% vacancy rate for retail space. The office space vacancies are at 21%. Could a new project around the UC compete with existing spaces? Perhaps, but investors and developers would take quite a bit of a haircut on expected financial returns due to the intense competition, in addition to the inevitable blighting effect in surrounding neighborhoods dragging the aggregate values down. I believe Reinsdorf was asking for $2B for the 78. And Ballys already made a mess down there with their stillborn casino...I mentioned it somewhere that what Phoenix should do is shutter the current Arizona State Fairgrounds, move them out to the NoPho parcel that Meruelo was trying to buy, preserve and repurpose all of the Art Deco WPA buldings at the current Fairgrounds, then infill the rest. Retain or demolish the Madhouse, maybe incorporating it into an expanded convention center. Keeping a fairground in a major downtown area is bonkers on so many levels, but that's Phoenix for ya. Other places, like the Pig Pen (PNC Arena in Raleigh - also an extension of a state fairground) could use this type of infill development as well, but only insofar as they are located in cowpastures as it is...We'll see what happens with the Oakland Coliseum. I think the demand is there in Oakland, especially for housing, but they really, really, really have to reoccupy that area, stamp out the hooliganism, and PR the area back to life. Until then, it's pretty much useless. And that also means addressing that comet tail of misery all the way down International Blvd. and into Fruitvale...

[@beargrills1290]

I questions whether or not this guy lives in Chicago. There's a big supply of sketchy hoods around the UC>

[@JasonTzzz]

The area surrounding the arena has to accommodate large crowds first and foremost. The Florida Panthers have parking lots to the left and right and the Sawgrass Mills Mall in the middle (across the street). That is a proper setup to get a stadium district + plentif parking. Fully surrounding a stadium with garages and development will only create grodlock and congestion.

[@geoff3103]

except that area is a horrible. an NHL team up against the swamp in the north Miami suburbs? OOOOO-k.

[@jhodapp]

The idea is to get most people to not drive to a game, that’s how you handle congestion.

[@giacobbeperales5926]

The only problem with this is that it's very cold in the winter and to walk 20 minutes to the UC in January or February can be brutal. I've done it many times and prefer the parking to be close to the stadium

[@davewolf8898]

Dumb move, parking is going to be 100 times worse, but eliminating so many spaces, plus the loss of revenue will be a major hit, because those lots are owned by the UC (Reinsdorf, Wirtz) The only other lots are the private, flag wavering shady lots with no real security for the attendees at an event.

[@ShantyIrishman]

Not necessarily, they could just charge more money for less spots. 😅

[@Phil00484]

Ahh the shady lots were shadier back in the Chicago Stadium days. Sometimes you had to pay a protection fee.

[@cecaju9516]

Assume that they will more than overcome those parking revenues with rents they are charging retail tenants.

[@4149stonepony]

@@ShantyIrishman Thank elitist that is playing into the crooks hands but they got you already.

[@4149stonepony]

@@cecaju9516 Or only wealthy fans can attend an they have trouble like concerts currently are having.

[@mariocisneros911]

I think it more for political conventions

[@maxpowr90]

I like to think if Boston actually won the 2024 Olympics bid, the Patriots would have relocated to downtown Boston, instead of being stuck in suburban MA.

[@ShantyIrishman]

I don’t think you have ever been to Boston, the space for an NFL stadium is not there.

[@maxpowr90]

@@ShantyIrishman It is, just not for the massive parking lots. Welcome to public transit!

[@DanB-ez8fz]

That wouldn’t have been part of the plan. The Olympic stadium which would have been constructed would have been temporary. Regardless, it would be difficult to imagine the Patriots and the Kraft family moving from a 22-year-old facility, one with a neighboring retail, dining and entertainment complex owned by the team.

[@conrailhbgline]

Arenas should be surrounded by districts with an abundance of public transit/rail connections and parking becomes a premium cost, like $50 per event.

[@4149stonepony]

That sounds cute so only wealthy people can attend, how elitist of you. Thanks for sharing. maybe we should charge 40 dollars to ride the train to fund this pipe dream sparing residents who now can't afford to attend or who would not attend to never have to worry about rich people and their stadiums and their events not infringing on their taxes and their city.

[@geoff3103]

they already are. Those "districts" are called downtown areas.

[@CS_1989]

Private $$$ im all 4 it & UC is great, nothing wrong with the building itself #theHouseJORDANbuilt

[@edwarddobrowolski9398]

What are they going to do with Arlington park then?

[@joseherrera8489]

Sounds like you've never parked at the UC. I've waited almost 2 hours to get out. That bottleneck sucks.