United Methodism, the Ivory Coast, Announcements, and Salvation Army Ecclesiology

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[@mama2aaa1]

Love Dr. Walls! Met him when I worked at Asbury Seminary .

[@leskaighin8903]

Interesting, especially about the history of the Salvation Army. Neither John Wesley nor William Booth wanted to start a church. My understanding is that Wesley allowed women speakers because they weren't churches, but both ended up with churches. Let's get back to the simplicity of scripture.

[@sheldon3996]

Hi Dr. Andy, I listened to your response to Dr. Mohler’s statement a few weeks ago. The comments section contained a discussion between a student and a PhD regarding women as pastors; the student’s argument was far more persuasive. Certainly there are many women in the Bible that God used for a great variety of purposes, but none were pastors. Junia was not an apostle, but known to the apostles. To assert that women were pastors in the Bible or to assert that Junia was an apostle is to eisegetically interpret the Bible, and quite frankly, to deny the authority of the word of God. History has shown that denominations that ordain women as pastors will become apostate churches, just as the UMC. The GMC will experience the same in due time. History has shown that denominations that ordain women will deny the authority of the Bible. The GMC will experience the same in due time. I was confirmed in the small United Methodist Church just down the road from my home. My ancestors helped build that church. My maternal grandparents and my parents were married in that small church. My mother, brother, and I were confirmed in that church. While I don’t recall too much from my confirmation classes (I suspect many don’t), one lesson was ingrained in my mind by our fresh out of seminary, pastor. He was a young George Whitefield, powerful and passionate sermons, a genuine zeal for God and bringing sinners to salvation. He taught that the word Bible is spelled with three I’s: inspired, inerrant, and infallible; to which I would add two more Is and two As - immutable, invincible, authoritative, and all-sufficient. His high view of scripture and the authority contained therein was conspicuously evident throughout his time with our little church (we would have been happy to have him there until he retired). If the GMC does not adopt a high view of God’s word and the authority contained therein such as written in the Scot’s Confession or the Westminster Confession, the GMC will quickly fall. The progressives and their lord Satan are working fast and furious destroy God’s word. Evolution or are we made in God’s image? Six literal days for creation in Genesis or something else? Moses would have understood six days to be six days as he received the Ten Commandments. How old is the earth? Did the flood really happen? Did God really destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Universalism? God created sin? Jesus was not God when he was in human form? Sexual immorality doesn’t apply to consenting adults? Abortion as an acceptable form of birth control? The GMC must take a strong, immovable stance regarding the Holy Scriptures first and foremost. If you are to be a delegate, this must be the most important aspect of church doctrine, followed by the immediate elimination of all forms of liberalism. Failure to do these things will result in the GMC serving Satan, dead in their trespasses and sin. Their pastors becoming false teachers as warned in 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament.

[@timclark744]

Andy - do you have references that I can get a hold of for all that fantastic Salvo history?

[@andymilleriii]

Anything specific you are looking for?

[@timclark744]

@@andymilleriii all good - I shall start with your papers on TSAs ecclesiology and go from there.

[@sheldon3996]

Hi Dr. Andy, I listened to your response to Dr. Mohler’s statement a few weeks ago. The comments section contained a discussion between a student and a PhD regarding women as pastors; the student’s argument was far more persuasive. Certainly there are many women in the Bible that God used for a great variety of purposes, but none were pastors. Junia was not an apostle, but known to the apostles. To assert that women were pastors in the Bible or to assert that Junia was an apostle is to eisegetically interpret the Bible, and quite frankly, to deny the authority of the word of God. History has shown that denominations that ordain women as pastors will become apostate churches, just as the UMC. The GMC will experience the same in due time. History has shown that denominations that ordain women will deny the authority of the Bible. The GMC will experience the same in due time. I was confirmed in the small United Methodist Church just down the road from my home. My ancestors helped build that church. My maternal grandparents and my parents were married in that small church. My mother, brother, and I were confirmed in that church. While I don’t recall too much from my confirmation classes (I suspect many don’t), one lesson was ingrained in my mind by our fresh out of seminary, pastor. He was a young George Whitefield, powerful and passionate sermons, a genuine zeal for God and bringing sinners to salvation. He taught that the word Bible is spelled with three I’s: inspired, inerrant, and infallible; to which I would add two more Is and two As - immutable, invincible, authoritative, and all-sufficient. His high view of scripture and the authority contained therein was conspicuously evident throughout his time with our little church (we would have been happy to have him there until he retired). If the GMC does not adopt a high view of God’s word and the authority contained therein such as written in the Scot’s Confession or the Westminster Confession, the GMC will quickly fall. The progressives and their lord Satan are working fast and furious destroy God’s word. Evolution or are we made in God’s image? Six literal days for creation in Genesis or something else? Moses would have understood six days to be six days as he received the Ten Commandments. How old is the earth? Did the flood really happen? Did God really destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Universalism? God created sin? Jesus was not God when he was in human form? Sexual immorality doesn’t apply to consenting adults? Abortion as an acceptable form of birth control? The GMC must take a strong, immovable stance regarding the Holy Scriptures first and foremost. If you are to be a delegate, this must be the most important aspect of church doctrine, followed by the immediate elimination of all forms of liberalism. Failure to do these things will result in the GMC serving Satan, dead in their trespasses and sin. Their pastors becoming false teachers as warned in 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament.