MIXED UP BOSS, Which Tunnel Ram is just Right for this combo? Plus other random thoughts

[@needmetal3221]

Those heads are gorgeous. A testament to cnc

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Yeah, they are a sight to behold! Hammerhead Performance Engines offers CNC ported versions of this head that will go 435cfm, In MAX effort that can be stretched to over 500cfm from the same casting... As cast they flow 395cfm You can see me unbox the heads and flowtest them in my Project MIXED UP BOSS playlist! Thanks for watching Andy

[@hoost3056]

Pick the one you want and get Wilson to port it...or get David to do it. Or you could go sheetmetal with all the bells and whistles properly calculated for runner style and length. Ya gone this far, go all the way👍

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

That custom sheet metal intake is a good idea

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Not for this build... I'm also after the period correct look of a 71-72 ProStock build... While I agree... A sheetmetal deal would definitely give me what I want powerwise...just not the look Andy

[@hoost3056]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage sounds like a challenge to me....how to make a fabbed intake look vintage. Could start a trend. If it's all about getting the aesthetic right, Im all for it👍

[@donreinholz8121]

Now I see where the name mixed up boss came from. Looking good Andy!

[@bigredracer7848]

202👍's up thanks again for having us all over for the day

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

No thank you! Andy

[@jr78racer]

That thing is gonna be a monster! Can't wait to see that bad boy ripping up the roads and track!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

I can't wait... You guys get to come along for the journey! Andy

[@robertphillips3078]

Completely understand Andy. Re cam specs. Guys watching this will have 2 work out there own combinations. Or go 2 a decent shop 2 have an engine built. Or call comp cams. Re Carburetors... would u consider Predators. They flow real decent numbers.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

I've always liked the Kendig/Predator carbs but they are hard to find around here.. I have very little experience with them.. I helped a buddy of mine over 20 years ago with his.. it ran awesome though.. Andy

[@mchristr]

When the question of an intake system comes up, the answer is always the same: Electronic Fuel injection.

[@luketeverino6085]

those heads are so pretty man. Been following those heads since they came out glad to have in depth videos about them

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thanks Luke! I know that these heads arent for everyone... BUT I want to show what the possibilities are with them! Thanks for watching and follow along because its going to be good.. Andy

[@jerrytee2688]

👍Very interesting/informative, cool.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thanks Jerry, This has been a work in progress! Lol.. hopefully when we put it on the pump.. it will deliver ALL of the goods! Thanks for Watching please Subscribe and follow along on the build! Andy

[@anthonysantiago1999]

That Bad Boy looks like a piece of Fine Jewelry. Cant wait for next update..

[@bigboy6011]

Love that poster on the wall

[@dalegriffin8728]

Pretty interesting brother. Can't wait to see it in action

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Dale, you and me both!!! I'm so ready to drive CASPER again... I miss the old truck... I know you can relate to that! We will be burning rubber hopefully soon...

[@williamturner2617]

I worked in a shop that built a lot of winston west engines smallblock chevys 360 inch limit and Fords (same size limit ) every engine we put on the dyno had the Yates heads out powering the sb2s usually the fords came in 7 to 12 hp more. These engines were limited to 9.5 comp ratio but were run to 8,800 rpm on the dyno for testing but raced with a 9,000 chip at the track.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

The Yates heads are awesome! I've had both the C3 and D3's they flow some serious air... too bad I sold them before I could build motors for them! Andy

[@williamturner2617]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage I have a question for David Vizard I am not sure If you could pass it on to him. If not it is ok. Has anyone built a gas powered v8 that ran in a 2 cycle mode ( camshaft turns at crankshaft speed) ?I know this would require forced induction like a Detroit Diesel has. My imagination tells that there may be Huge power potential if the valve train could be figured out.Doing this would be like doubling the displacement if my logic is sound. Thanks .Will.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

@@williamturner2617 I don't know if anyone has converted an existing engine...but I do know that there are some 2 stroke V8's here on KZbin... Yamaha if I'm not mistaking.. I will pass it along to him.. Andy

[@69JANKS]

4V baby yeahh 💪🏼🏁 Interesting, i have a 4V Clevo tunnel ram, but I’m across the world lol 🤷🏼‍♂️ I have a set of 4V’s that have that water passage drilled & plugged that were once modified/used on a Windsor I’d say. Same thing as you mentioned & drillled/tapped at the front also. Man those Heads look badass 👌🏼🏁, I’d say your Adaptor plates for em can do with a little blend taper between the two, probably promote a little air speed/velocity..... Cool 😎 👍🏼🏁

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

4V Cleveland for the WIN... You and DragBoss has rubbed off on me! Andy

[@69JANKS]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage hahaha 😆🤷🏼‍♂️ I heard Cleveland......then 4V...... & had to jump right in 🤣. Man Cool build you have right there 💪🏼🏁

[@bigbear5510]

Now that's some great information on them high rise intakes! I think I'll have to watch it several more times to full comprehend it all but that just how my brain works. I totally understood everything you said but just could not absorb it all it one setting. Now I would like a tunnel ram for when I build another engine for my car but I really not sure what I want to do with it yet. I'll probably go with a single carb to start off because I think it will be best for my application. Hope ya find that intake your lookin' for, I don't know of any around here but I can ask a few folks. Have a nice day and a better one tomorrow!😎

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Big Bear it is pretty simple... When it comes to picking the right tunnel ram, You must have the proper size runner (cross sectional area) to supply the airflow needs and the length of the runner must tune in at the rpm range that you are wanting to make that peak power! You get those things right and good things will happen.. Andy

[@josephdavis6198]

Andy we will have to keep the hood closed on Casper at the drag strip , if they see that beast we will never get any bets . LOL

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Yup, We will tell everyone its just a little Hipo 289!

[@wesleycook3181]

I love those cylinder heads. I’ve never saw that option of capping off the water passages and running a dry intake.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thanks... It just shows how much thought Greg Brown put into these heads.. most people would have never messed with doing it! Thanks for Watching! Andy

[@williamturner2617]

The article was in Car Craft.

[@robertphillips3078]

Andy l think l have a number 4 some old guys in the States who rebuild them. Nice guys. Came across them a few yrs back. Did speak 2 them. Found the chap very trustworthy. Always difficult in Oz & over there. Gr8 4 cars ect. Apparently no good in Boats 😢😭 If l find the No l will send u a message. Possibly the equal of 660 centre squirters. U would have a better idea of that than me. Nostalgia is always Cool.

[@ScottKenny1978]

Off the top of my head, I'd go with the intake with the straightest shots onto the valves. But I personally would want to do some EFI shenanigans... I know that's not *your* thing, though.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Bingo! that is one of the big things as well... Later on.. I would really like to run Hilborn Injection... we shall see! Andy

[@marklohnes6313]

Awesome video and lots of good info!! That engine is gonna be a beast!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thanks for the kind words... Mark I have to say im pretty stoked about it.. Hopefully it will be on the Dyno soon! Thanks for watching and please subscribe to follow along. Andy

[@marklohnes6313]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage already a subscriber my friend....came over from Uncle Tony. Yeah, I’m anxious for more on this project, the Dino and the runs in Casper!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

@@marklohnes6313 Mark... As soon as I get it off of the Dyno and in CASPER.. We are going to finally make that trip to Tony's! Maybe pay the new shop a visit...who knows! It's going to be fun I promise

[@brentonk461]

I would have opened up those heads to match the 4v, but if you can find one, Have a look at a 2V Cleavland tunnel ram , it will have smaller runners than a 4V manifold.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

I dont want to open up the heads just yet.. I want to test other Windsor based manifolds, So for now im going to epoxy the runners in the intake.... Andy

[@michaeln9905]

DragBoss on u Tube has some Cleveland tunnel rams check with him awesome engine cant wait to that mixed boss run

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Yeah Tim has some really cool stuff! All of his tunnel rams are spoken for... LOL Andy

[@williamturner2617]

Hello Andy, If my memory serves me correct there is a article where a guy named Cole Quinelle (turbo shop) ran a tunnel ram on 4 hundred something inch small block chevy that was his daily driver in highschool I believe it ran 10s . Any way I think he ran 850 baseplates on his 660 center squirters for a little extra air flow .you may need this with the new heads.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

William I believe you are correct sir! But I'm planning on testing them just to see how they stack up... Dominators are waiting in the wings!

[@xc8487]

This would be cool to see run in DragWeek, maybe in an panther platform or a fairmont. Box sedan with a mailbox scoop.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

XC, it's going to be put in my '71 F100 that I call CASPER, I drag race it.. with the old 393W it ran mid 11's at 4080lbs NA... Later on I would love to find a '70 Maverick to drop it in and make a vintage ProStock car that is street driven! Thanks for Watching and please Subscribe and follow along with the build Andy

[@keithclark3079]

Andy, Contact DragBoss here on KZbin he may have what your looking for and is a a super nice guy

[@scott196464]

You gotta get those manifolds vapour blasted , will look great .

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Joe, I may try that... Andy

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

If you don't already know, check out Dragboss here on KZbin. He's the Cleveland master.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Oh yeah I'm a big fan of DragBoss... Tim is a great guy... I love his ProStock build that he is doing!

[@crewcheif01]

You can still get the cleveland tunnel ram from summit or jegs last time i checked.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Last I had heard Holley, is discontinuing these... which is a shame..

[@robertphillips3078]

Andy found the chap re Predator Carburetor. He is in La Porte Texas. Not sure if he has any in stock. Will dig up his no 2morrow 4 U & ur subscribers. He Dyno's each carb b4 he ships them.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thanks Robert! Andy

[@stevedriver1476]

I never got into Fords,, but like them 351,s and 289,s

[@19jody72]

Nice Andy!!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thanks Jody! Making some progress... I'm Sooo ready to hear this thing run! Andy

[@exploranator]

The head that Ford should have put on a 2015 repro of the 1969 Mustang. The Mustang Hellcat fighter!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

That would have been really neat to see!

[@sheldonbromen2603]

That thing is going to be so boss lol

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

I hope so! Lol

[@Jarod-Davis]

I need that victor jr 351w intake. Lol. I'd rather have a dual plane but that's the style I want. Mid rise with air gap.

[@josephnubile1970]

Thats Awsome, I cant wait to see what the final version of that tunnel ram will look like because I know you will port the heck out of it. Will you be using the same carburators also?

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

I'm going to start out with the same carbs... I want to try two 1050 Dominators on it too... I hope when I Dyno it.. I have enough time to play around with different carbs and such

[@garymatthys3605]

Andy I posted a couple links to 351C tunnel ram intakes, but it looks like they were taken down

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thats odd... I actually have a trade pending on the BOSS 302 Ram for a Cleveland.. I made this Vid a few weeks back.. Thanks for Watching and please subscribe to follow along! Andy

[@garymatthys3605]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage That's cool, I put the links on your fb page too.

[@racer6583]

Casper the friendly ghost ain't going to be friendly to the cars at the track!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

I sure hope so!! Its going to be fun, Ole Casper needs to get on a diet too... 4080lbs is a bit much!

[@MrBlackbutang]

My manager heard you called a spade a spade. Mixup boss is really pissed now. Now he’s really take it out on us . Please stop making fun of my boss ! Thanks spooln272

[@MrValhem265]

informative thanks Buddy, Bad Pitbull instead of a Bad Puppy what ya reckon? cheers Andy

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Thanks Robbie!

[@gophergarage]

How about hogans sheet metal? Going to be sweet!!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Sheetmetal is out for this build.. because I'm wanting to maintain a 1970-1972 vintage ProStock look to the build... The sheetmetal deal would give me everything I'm looking for other than the look! Thanks for Watching! Andy

[@johnwilburn]

Not being a Ford guy, but knowing the Cleveland heads came in 2v and 4v versions, how would the 2v ports match up? Is there a 2v port size tunnel ram? Just wondering. It's going to have a nice look to it!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

You know John, I only know of one Tunnel Ram that is made for the 2v size ports.. it is down in Australia.. those guys have some cool parts! I feel really good about the 4V version it's just going to take a bit of work.. but I think it will be worth it Andy

[@MS-ts4db]

I hope you've got your wheelie bars ready, cause your gonna need em when Casper decides to fly off the line with that kind of hp. Whats that thing weigh? It can't be much!

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Oh Casper is a heavyweight! With me in it race weight is 4080 lbs... So he needs to go on a BIG diet! Lol

[@MS-ts4db]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage Dude, That's awesome! lol

[@ScottKenny1978]

Oh, I'd love to see what you do to that new 445W Ford came out with in the Super Duty trucks.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

We are going to find out real soon! I have 3 buddies that scored some... We are going to build one for the Blue 96 Mustang that I did a video on awhile back! The search for parts is already on....lol Andy

[@ScottKenny1978]

@arnulford66 Godzilla is the Nissan RB26DETT engines from the Skyline. Don't care what Ford says.

[@williamturner2617]

To Scott I am not yet familiar with this 445w engine. Does the w denote windsor? and if so is this a stroked version of a 351w . We are trying to figure out a torque engine for a 70 cougar that is easy to build but is smaller externally than a 460 (shock towers are still in place). Thank you.Will.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

The new 7.3 isn't a Windsor.. it is a serious piece though... It has a Modular 4.6/5.0 bellhousing... Check out the Reving Evan channel here on KZbin... He has alot of great content regarding this engine... 445 ci of Ford goodness.. it is only slightly bigger than a Windsor... Check it out... Andy

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@williamturner2617 I'm calling it a 445W because it's made at the Windsor plant. But like Andy said, it's not really a 302/351W design.

[@michaelterrell490]

Hi. I'm running a ported out super Victor 351w and just a single QFT 1050cfm 4150 flange carb on my Hammer headed 427w. It's jetted perfect according to my afr gauge. It's 12.5 to 1 compression,712 lift 274@.050 110 LSA Solid roller cam, oh and the heads are ported by Greg himself. Should I look into more induction ??? Like two fours and tunnel ram or a Dominator and bigger intake??? Thanks, Mike.

[@brdnsky6417]

What is that paint you've used on the inside of the block. Also do you run at Shady Side Dragway. And DragBoss might help you. He is heavily into Clevlands and old Pro Stocks. You could check out his you tube page.(DRAGBOSS) Ronnie.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

I use Glyptal red insulating paint for the inside of the block.. I do run up at Shadyside.. it's my home track! Lol.. Tim (DragBoss) has some really cool stuff going on... We hope to work together some here on KZbin in the future.. Thanks for Watching! Andy

[@brdnsky6417]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage That's cool. I go to Shady Side as much as I can. Where do you get it and how do you apply it. Also does it come off. Ronnie.

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

Andy, on this set up, what holds the valey-cover in place?

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

You seal it to the China wall.. then when the heads are on it will lock it in place.. Andy

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage that's what I figured. Thank you for verifying.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Yes sir anytime

[@NightWrencher]

So you'll have a crossover on the edge of the heads like the LS 🤔

[@ScottKenny1978]

There's a *lot* of stuff GM did right on the LS motors. Besides, convergent evolution.

[@ScottKenny1978]

@Cam montreuil engines like what?

[@ScottKenny1978]

@Cam montreuil engines like the venting between cylinders and cooling the heads first?

[@bcbloc02]

Stack injection an option?

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Down the road, I would really like to have Hilborn injection on it! Time will tell I guess! I just want to Drive CASPER again... I miss it bad! Andy

[@jackwells1452]

Would a 460 or 427 Ford performance short block work or would there be piston to valve issue's

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

You can see in my part 1 of this series... this started out as a FRPP 427 shortblock, with a small enough cam you "could" run these heads and not have any PTV issues.. But I swapped in a set of Diamond pistons with the proper valve reliefs to work with the Solid Roller cam im going to run.. Hope this helps and Thanks for Watching! Andy

[@jackwells1452]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage Ok thank you sir

[@willsparkman7752]

I'm looking for a tunnel ram linkage kit for my 5.3 ls do you know of a bolt on kit for this set up everyone says summit but no luck I'm putting this into a 91 obs pickup thanks

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

You will probably need to look on eBay for a sideways linkage. You will most likely have to make the bottom anchor that bolts to the manifold bolts since I'm not aware of any for a LS but eBay is the place Andy

[@robertphillips3078]

I posted a comment a few hrs ago about my dream build with these Fabulous Heads from Hammerhead Performance Engines. What l posted was my dream build. A blow'in engie 4 a hot boat. In no way is my thoughts/dream designed 2 undermine what Andy is building 4 himself. He will have one awesome engine. The block l was referring 2 is a BMP man of war billet aluminum block. Check it out if ur interested. Check out the caps. Every single cap is splayed with 4 bolts. U guys over in the states have a fabulous folk who go above what GM FORD ECT release. They r everywhere over there. We have a few in Australia. U r lucky buggers. And our $ against the green back is terrible. In 2010 we were 1.10 -1.12 Aussie $ 2 ur $1. Now its woefull. .73c to usd $1. Any back 2 the block "Jewellery " Andy's going 2 share some more about his engine on sunday nite so 👀👀 4ward 2that. 👌👍

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

It's fun stuff setting up the valvetrain... And what not to do! It will apply to all engines it will be a part 1 of 2... Alot of ground to cover! Andy

[@robertphillips3078]

Man of War Block not Billet. Sorry about that. Dart Engineering can build one 2 what ever specs u or ur engine builder comes up with. Isn't Gr8 that Andy is sharing some Carburetor secrets with us. I personally don't know a lot about them so its always gr8 2 learn some more tech.

[@davidreed6070]

Why don't you make an intake

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

While I could, I'm trying to maintain the look of a 1970-72 ProStock BOSS 429.. while making good power! Andy

[@jerrybiscay6987]

600hp? That's awful lot of messing around to get just 600hp.

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

Jerry that was with my old 393w... It also made 1.41 lbft per cube on pump gas... which is a tough mark to do... The new BOSS motor goal is to make 750hp NA on pump gas.. stay tuned Andy

[@jerrybiscay6987]

@@UnityMotorSportsGarage well I'm not saying that it's not cool. I'm just saying the dollar factor is very high for a 600hp goal. How much did it cost??

[@UnityMotorSportsGarage]

@@jerrybiscay6987 oh it was cheap... Cast Scat crank 302 Mahle pistons.. stock length I beam rods... Most of the money was in the valvetrain.. but I was still out less than 5k for everything in that build..

[@keithbusch4014]

Talking cheep hp, ran a stock 91 5.0 with some dart iron heads and way to big of a cam and a 350 shot of nitrous from 1500 rpm car ran 9.50 all day, probably was making 600-650 to the tire. (In the late 90s) thanks for the show and tell love it. KMFNB