Unlimited Threshold Intervals - Jason Karp

Is there a reason most of us run a predetermined number of intervals?
Jason Karp believes there's a better way to run a track session.
"Don't try this at home" -Jason Karp
1600m until 'sufficient fatique'
1200m until 'sufficient fatique'
800m until 'sufficient fatique'
400m until 'sufficient fatique'
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Filmed and edited by Angus Teeton (Sweat Elite): / angusteeton
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[@andrewworrall4302]

My coach once made me do 30 minutes of 250m hills. No amount of reps. I ended up doing 16. If I was doing 10, by 9 I would be tired. Massive psychological game this is

[@wurldfree9520]

Keep your eyes on this Coach @Jason Karp, his methods and his runners. He's a forward thinker and ahead of his time. Film more of his sessions if you can. " The Making of Championship Runners" !!

[@mannubhadana7026]

Send me tarning program 5k

[@darianbroadhead2863]

5 minute mile pace while feeling “aerobic”. Unreal. Unbelievably impressive to watch!

[@ichbindoofhihi1]

5 minute Kilometers aren't even aerobic for me

[@c0r3h8mE]

@@ichbindoofhihi1 he said MILE Fabian, no KM....thats the different

[@darianbroadhead2863]

@@ichbindoofhihi1 haha right!? lol

[@rahelwijeyekoon9403]

They also accumulated 20.8km/12.9mi at threshold! That's absolutely brutal.

[@maloxi1472]

@@c0r3h8mE Fabian used the word "even" to emphasize the difference and thus how impressive their performance was 😉

[@masheeniblick]

The coach is very convincing. Might give this a go!

[@ixwobble]

This one is fascinating.

[@BillyTeeton]

I couldn't agree more. I really enjoyed the content.

[@MrHhurtig]

He makes it sound very logical, the way the workout is built. Great vid!

[@Paul-M21]

Damn that’s a solid track session. Wish the video went for longer as I could have watched that all day. Nice work Angus!

[@lachlanearnshaw6859]

pretty cool seeing John McEnroe coaching running now

[@jasonkarp1029]

I'm a lot better looking and more charming than John McEnroe.

[@ChristianCabahug]

Sweat Elite always providing the best content! Happy Friday everyone!

[@jackcooper3193]

Seeing the title I thought this is the dumbest idea ever, but after coach breaking it down and explaining so logically I gotta try this.

[@gallagherii]

This is fascinating. Amazing interview and editing Angus!

[@roustabout4fun]

Feels old school...Good stuff!

[@balajiramanathan1585]

Thanks for posting this. Very interesting

[@huntermaynard8837]

Cool session! Really nice hearing the coaches philosophy and thoughts on training various metabolic pathways! Good footage as always Sweat Elite!

[@kibet7862]

This is a very fascinating story....insightful. thanks @Jason

[@nickmartin555]

This coach is super interesting. Would love to see more videos of his sessions

[@MrBrian000]

Great vid

[@rm6857]

Lot of LT work. Ingebrigtsens do similar, but broke in 2 sessions per day. 6x5min. And 2x10min. Which is high volume( 50min) LT work with short recoveries to not kill themself.

[@bhengmibudy2020]

Super interesting

[@Chongyy]

*Finishes 400m Rep* Me - "I'm dead coach" Coach - "Do another one" *Dies*

[@TheLongHaulCoach]

I took Mr. Karp’s coaching course a few years ago. Coaching or not, it’s great material to build a good training methodology: don’t get trapped with arbitrary numbers.

[@peytonhoyal8002]

This is an excellent use of intuitive coaching and actively progressing stimuli imposed on the body. Most workouts impose arbitrary limits on the body by their very design, but allowing an athlete (or yourself) to "explore" their individual limits via stretching the duration of intensity is one key to improvement. @JasonKarp- Could you perhaps outline what the recovery after a session like this may look like, and what a secondary or tertiary session in the same microcycle would be from your perspective?

[@manashbarman3490]

Hi Sweatelite, please Renato Canova video soon 🙏🏾😁

[@angusteeton6918]

We'll try get him on :D

[@plsioidjfsiyy]

this might be the most insighful episode yet...aribitartion of reps - i like this psychological approach. very wise. you ultimately need to master the pace not the other way around

[@adrianagoulart7713]

This coach is riding (or rather making his athletes ride) that thin line between stupidity and geniality

[@leeroyjeankins7781]

I have stopped watching my HR during tougher workouts because I think the mentality ties into that too- '''oh wow my HR is ___, I should feel tired right now''. Then a minute later you're feeling tired. The paul chelimo 4 mile tempo run (sweat elite video) paul talks with his training partner/pacer Dante ( a short distance runner) about those mental games during longer runs. Super interesting insight into the mental game of running.

[@ErLong1800]

Nice video! Very interesting thoughts! Would like to know what these guys are training for. Maybe you can ask the coaches or athletes in future videos (most times it is said in the video, maybe I missed it in this one?)

[@OwenSullivan]

That was such an interesting training session. I haven't seen one like that before. Does he do equivalent training with shorter reps for people training for 1500 metre/5k?

[@jasonkarp1029]

Yes. The number of reps is arbitrary. What matters is causing a sufficient amount of fatigue that your body responds and adapts to.

[@rm6857]

If LT pace for those guys is race pace for half marathon~ 1hour, than he just broke it down to shorter reps to not kill them, no magic about those reps

[@jasonkarp5070]

@@rm6857 I didn't plan the workout that way. It's planned as unlimited reps at threshold pace with 60 seconds rest between reps, cutting down the distance of the reps as the athletes fatigue. Try it yourself and you'll see how exhausting it can be. At the start of the workout, I and they didn't know that the total distance would come out to be close to a half-marathon. We just focus on one rep at a time.

[@peterv3198]

When in a training cycle would you attempt this kind of workout?

[@jasonkarp5070]

@@peterv3198 As you are building your aerobic base, but later in that process since you need to be aerobically very fit first to handle the high volume of the workout. You can start with a lower volume and work up to it.

[@shoppedgill7521]

Where in their training cycle does this type of workout fall (how close to race day)? What distance race is this workout geared towards? Great content!

[@Hensley_Jb]

Most evil workout ive ever seen

[@AdrianMei]

bring a notebook 📝 y’all

[@sschwen8050]

They just needed to drop like a 93 there at the end and he would’ve pulled them off the track.

[@jamesdoran3567]

Excellent insight What distance races does this work suit best? Can you share the rest period between reps and sets?

[@jasonkarp1029]

Rest between all reps was 60 seconds

[@jamesdoran3567]

Many thanks Jason. Very interesting

[@gabequinn9796]

Does the same practice apply to anaerobic/VO2/CV work? Unlimited reps and going till fatigue?

[@jasonkarp5070]

@@gabequinn9796 For the most part, yes, but it depends on what the purpose of the workout it. For the aerobic work, the volume is important. For the speed work, the intensity is important, so the volume is limited.

[@hocinyahi5463]

what's the times recovery between repititon and set ok thank(s coach

[@Nejha]

Hello sir good evening

[@justapedn1]

I wonder how you do these if you’re alone? Constant mental battle.

[@brianmcewen3082]

So Kenya has 9:20 2-Milers also. Was this workout done on the 4th of July?

[@sweatelite]

Wednesday this week

[@Andy82]

interesting concept, but I have a feeling it's better suited to the treadmill as you'd be able to regulate pace and judge fatigue on your own.

[@ixwobble]

Agree, but part of the goal was to "master the pace" on their own so they can run it on race day no matter what the rest of the field is doing.

[@Andy82]

@@ixwobble threshold pace =/= race pace

[@Nejha]

From india🇮🇳

[@nathanielhegge5582]

Telling Kenyans not to run the shorter reps faster is like telling a baby not to put something in their mouth. Really interested to see how the workout progresses.

[@miodoh]

what is their LA in mmol/L?

[@nishchay_nikam]

How much recovery will you take each 1600m repeats....

[@sweatelite]

60 seconds between all reps

[@happyone8345]

Leg muscles tight what I do please help

[@prof_Pomari]

In general: sleep more, cut some training volume is needed. Quick fix: maybe massages, cold bath/shower, resting your legs on a wall or chair (in order to elevate them)

[@Mr.ThinkTwice]

Cut it. 😂

[@angusteeton6918]

Some stretching or yoga?

[@happyone8345]

@@prof_Pomari thanks

[@nickleonardthomas]

Maybe I missed this but what is the rest?

[@maurogiuliano8230]

60 seconds

[@trongogames7831]

How much pause do they do between reps?

[@adamfeerst2575]

He wrote 60 sec in several comment responses above

[@trongogames7831]

Thank you!

[@SusanDawsonCook]

How many 1600 meter reps did they do?

[@jasonkarp1029]

7, before dropping down to 1200 meters. I mentioned it during the video.

[@athletes__point05]

2nd like me

[@Emil-yd1ge]

Very interesting video, but why didn't you put the names of the runners in the title, or at least in the description? That's a bit disrespectful in my opinion.

[@vikeshdagur]

So fast like me 😉

[@gagansingh8638]

I need off season work out Help me And I am from India

[@alh.4000]

What event are you training for? Do 1 tempo run per week and some speed drills a few times per week and rest of the week easy mileage.

[@dangahagan7645]

This guy does not understand what lactate threshold is and what purpose it serves, at all. You want a good example of lactate threshold work, look at the Ingebrigtsens, not this guy and his pseudoscience.

[@nigeburgess5950]

There are many ways to skin a cat Dan.. not just one. And you have only seen one of ‘this guys’ workouts here. I also ask you to explain ‘lactate threshold’ and the scientific measures of it. He is spot on. Volume counts at that pace. Anything faster or above LT, then intensity counts as every gear faster accumulates lactate at a faster rate, reducing the volume.

[@chrisvarelabenitez4690]

I think you missed when he said he measured it by having them do a "time trial." I'm sure the Ingebrigtsens measure their LT pace based off of their results.

[@dangahagan7645]

@@chrisvarelabenitez4690 No they do not, they measure their blood lactate levels after every rep.

[@SlobberyPantsu]

Im sure he and all his athletes are very concerned about your broad knowledge of training.

[@MAOLALAIDH]

I think it is you who does not understand what it is....