Unlimited Travel With Southern's DaySave Ticket

[@magnusdagbro8226]

The "haven" in Newhaven is actually also a sea word! It's cognate with German 'hafen' and Dutch 'haven' meaning harbour - So really it's New Harbour harbour.

[@johnmurrell3175]

Hence the saying "Any safe haven in a storm", I get the impression that a haven is a sheltered place such as The Downs or Torbay and may not be a harbour.

[@hubbadubba6063]

As Havn in Danish as well.

[@poltronafrau]

OK bro

[@villageorganist]

Our local gas terminal here in Norway is called Nyhamna - which is the same as Newhaven. There is also Newhaven in Scotland, with the stress on the second syllable.....

[@GaryMarriott]

What about counting Fishersgate

[@22bbvn]

How many other stations were built because of a washed up whale ? Norman's Bay - The whale washed up on the 13th Nov 1865 and weighed approx 72 tons ( the skeleton resides at The Nat History Museum in Cambridge ). The Brighton Railway Co created a temporary halt to meet public sightseeing demand.

[@joshuahawkes7218]

I guess they forgot the 'tempory' part.

[@josephm5695]

72 tons? They must have needed a whale-weigh station.

[@malcolm4672]

Geoff saying he was in Brighton, reminded me that I have visited five (New) Brighton's in one calendar (2017) year, South coast England, near Liverpool, Adelaide Australia, Sydney Australia, Christchurch New Zealand.

[@chinaski2020]

You missed Melbourne!

[@malcolm4672]

@@chinaski2020 Went to Melbourne on that trip and didn't go to Brighton, been there though, and on a train.

[@Mitch-Hendren]

theres a new Brighton in north wales too. a blink and you miss it village. .

[@ignacyz5560]

In Poland for 81 zł (~15£). You have whole weekend ticket (even long weekends). That allows You to travel the whole PKP network for 2 days (Polish national railway company)

[@EandEFC]

Great video as usual. Was at Newhaven on Saturday had a look around like you its changed a lot from the good old days of the Ghost Train!. Also went to Cooden beach a couple of weeks back very interesting little station great for visiting the beach!

[@aldhous]

If you wanted to fill your head with c-words you should have alighted at Fishersgate or Southwick. Plenty to be heard around those parts.

[@panman1964]

Also Portslade

[@lohphat]

Why isn't there a phone app recognised by all rail networks for electronic ticketing? The Long Island Rail Road in New York doesn't have turnstiles so you can get tickets on your mobile for inspection upon demand. No more paper -- nor needing to wait for the post.

[@sr6424]

Trying to buy Rover/Ranger tickets is interesting. In the summer I purchased a 'Freedom of Severn and Solent Ranger', It was almost impossible to buy. Something tells me they would like to phase them out.

[@AnonYmous-dh2zt]

Why does it feel so weird your doing a video so close to me. Sad you didn't stop at my town tho (Eastbourne) :-(. Still a very good video Geoff

[@mikemoreno4469]

I love your videos, Geoff.

[@AlexThompson-bq1sh]

the east in eastbourne is a sea word

[@volvotrident4835]

I got an idea, how about GOVIA make a ROVER. It would be perfect for people down in the South.

[@nickburton100]

Is there a railcard discount?

[@airqx2808]

no portslade :((

[@tompeters1994]

Ahh durrington! 😎

[@gledhill56]

Bought myself one for Friday. Starting in Brighton, where would you recommend I head towards?

[@gledhill56]

Geoff Marshall thanks for the suggestion. Might try and squeeze Eastbourne in before heading for Seaford.

[@finlaylavery8408]

As Jay Foreman once said "I feel like we're saying the word sea a lot..."

[@voodootrois]

There's nothing he could do about it.

[@neilwilson5785]

Just try watching Bald and Bankrupt's channel. You will get very familiar with things that are 'Soviet'

[@haiironezumi]

Geoff: *walks on some rocks* Geoff: "Welcome to the beach" Australians: ?????? Where's the sand?!?

[@johnstilljohn3181]

That is sand - just the grains are larger...

[@Chris-ln6so]

Sand beaches all over Britain but this little corner of the SE seems to be pebble heavy!

[@MatthewK421]

As a person from the south I can not disagree

[@williamhuang8309]

*g r a v e l b e a c h*

[@rosiefay7283]

Given that it's a traditional card ticket that your usual computer printer can't print, it seems bizarre that you *have* to order it online, and collect it from a ticket office (even though you can't buy it there) or have it posted. A inconvenient mix of the up-to-date and the old-fashioned.

[@CRAZEDDUCKling]

Rosie Fay it's to make it awkward to buy, so it's less likely to be used. This is also why it's difficult to find on the website.

[@mats7492]

indeed.. way to complicated.

[@arthurgordon6072]

@@CRAZEDDUCKling Then why bother having it?

[@EoRdE6]

@@arthurgordon6072 it's possible that it's required in their operating contract

[@gthbtn]

It's to stop commuters buying it as an alternative to regular tickets... Mind you, if you know your schedule well in advance. 😉

[@voodootrois]

"Is it 'Win-chel-SEA' or 'Win-CHEL-sea'?" We shall see.

[@calmeilles]

It's a dactyl, stressed syllable followed by two unstressed. -⏑⏑ in metrical notation. And the e in chel reduced to a schwa: so WIN-chul-sea or /ˈwɪntʃəlsi/.

[@voodootrois]

@@calmeilles Thanks. And I'd consider that a win for Chelsea.

[@GenialHarryGrout]

After the start this season, 2019/20, this station be renamed Losechelsea.

[@phu010]

Sussex place names have the emphasis on the last syllable, so it's Win-chel-SEA. It is also Sea-FORD, not SEA-ford as Geoff pronounced it.

[@samturner8222]

I spent the first 22 years of my life in and around Rye. I would pronounce it win-chul-SEA. When it comes to Winchelsea beach though it's more like winch-ul-SEA

[@dazom]

this is such a public service this. Geoff does it so we do not have to!

[@bertoltb1358]

Public information announcement: If you are catching the ferry from Newhaven to go to Dieppe, alight at Newhaven Town not Newhaven Harbour. If you do get out at Newhaven Harbour by mistake, exit the station on the East side and follow the road North for 10 minutes, walk past Newhaven Town station and cross the railway at the level crossing to gain access to the ferry ticket/boarding office. My wife and I found this out the hard way! Great video again, thank you.

[@sarahj8231]

To leave the train for the ferry at Harbour you also have to ignore the information on the ferry website, posters at stations, notices on the train info boards, messages on the train, and often announcements from the on board staff, and even when told in person by on board staff to go, 'are you sure', and then ignore them as you know best.

[@bertoltb1358]

sarahj8231 But the ferry booking site via a phone didn’t mention it, the ticket machine at Brighton really didn’t care, the only station sign about it we could see on the return journey was at Lewes (We really had a good look for them), the dot matrix departure board was too busy, if there was an announcement we didn’t hear it and when they checked our ticket nothing was said. Yes we got it wrong, but we didn’t get a lot of help to put us right.

[@sarahj8231]

Bertolt B13 there is a poster on the platform at town, the route map on the train and at stations that shows the ferry running from town, and doing ticket checks the staff often have to guess if your going for the ferry. And when told the reply is often ‘are you sure’

[@josephwarner5467]

Make sure you don't leave at Newhaven Marine...

[@ChannelReuploads9451]

Ahhhhhh, this takes me back to the mid 80's where there was "Network SouthEast Day", where for a tenner (10 quid) you could travel anywhere in the Network Southeast network all day, 12:01am to 11:59PM. I would be out on a train at around 6am from Portsmouth, to London, spend the day exploring the underground trains, and have it planned so I get on a train that gets to Salisbury and change trains for the Cardiff to Portsmouth before midnight which If I remember was at about 11:45PM, the last Cardiff to Portsmouth. Once you were on the train, the ticket was valid all the way to Portsmouth. Those were the days.

[@tornadoyeti]

The Network Southeast railcard still exists! It’s now called the Network Railcard. Tickets still print with “NSE” when you’ve used your Network Railcard! Anyway, nice vid Mr Marshall.

[@Saxon1947]

That network south east day was awesome good days!

[@paullbennett2923]

Did a few of those in the late eighties , also used the Victoria to Newhaven boat trains a few times,always overnight. not a great experience. Remember some nutter running through train shouting yay we are going to london at the top of his voice!

[@muskrat645]

London Midland did the same thing 5 or 6 years ago. Anywhere on there network for £10. Travelled up to Liverpool. I've fit Network Railcard strange it covers up to Kings Lynn but doesn't go to Ipswich, stops one station short.

[@silenthunteruk]

In Germany, there are day tickets valid for travel on regional (not intercity) trains in an entire state or pair of states; the Berlin-Brandenburg one allows you to also go across the border into Poland,

[@Maccification]

Interesting concept for a video. There are so many regional challenges you could do with rangers and rovers. Here's one for you, visit all the stations ending in "ham" on an Anglia Plus Day Ranger . Or all the stations ending in "ley" on a South Pennines Day Ranger.

[@Marmeladecheeseshoes]

Would you include Needham Market, Wickham Market and Downham Market?

[@Alarmkid23]

@@Marmeladecheeseshoes Downham market is not included in the anglia plus day ranger area (and the WHOLE line to Kings lynn) as its great northern and not greater anglia.

[@martinsavage9015]

A Geoff Marshall video-as British as fish and chips or a cup of tea with a cheese scone.M and C Enfield.

[@mikegilbey869]

Great video, Geoff. Love these videos. I live in Canberra, the capital of Australia, that only gets two trains a day to Sydney. It’s so cool seeing how thorough the British rail network is!

[@elizabethmh_465]

I thought Sydney was the capital ? When was that changed?

[@Tristan]

@@elizabethmh_465 it has never been the capital, just lots of people think it is because it’s the best known city there

[@mildlydispleased3221]

​@elizabethmh_465 Sydney has never been the capital, common knowlege, mate.

[@charlieattwater1886]

Hey Geoff, I got my southern daysave ticket today on the 30th which is a Saturday because there are no restrictions on that day so i can start Early at around 7 in the morning.

[@pawpatrolnews]

"...theres a big pile of garbage there now." Nothings changes Goeoff, nothings changed...

[@eastpavilion-er6081]

2:35 "Southern services serve the seaside" That's a nice tongue twister, Geoff.

[@Strudlfaust]

I sea what you did there

[@ZLDSmogless]

I do *sea* what you did there

[@warrentimothy2276]

You missed Fishbourne and Fishersgate. Both sea related and both named such because of the sea!

[@mindthegap9541]

Geoff should make a special video visiting Fishbourne, Fishersgate (interesting stations in their own right) and possibly Portslade to fully complete the sea-related set! :D

[@warrentimothy2276]

​Oh, you also missed Battersea Park! If you're going to include Winchelsea ;)

[@djedg10]

And newHAVEN town.

[@mindthegap9541]

@@djedg10 If he includes Southern stations on southwestern railway trains, he has enough sea related places for a full sequel/second day at the beach!

[@videonut1988]

Those are Nautical stations in a way.

[@MrFiver1111]

Geoff making a video on Southern and me recognising all the stops!!!! Truly incredible

[@LoveBristol]

From the video it looks like the tracks are blocked off to Newhaven Marine - they've got stop barriers across them. Therefore the ghost train can't be running.

[@markiangooley]

“The Pevensey Bay Disaster” is familiar to Goon Show fans and came to mind at once...

[@torchris1]

markiangooley ...and Spike Milligan is buried in Winchelsea!

[@pintpullinggeek]

@@torchris1 He told us he was ill.

[@truckerallikatuk]

@@torchris1 Isn't that spelled Milligna? The world's most famous typing error? Goon but not forgotten.

[@adrianbaker5916]

Geoff also missed becoming a victim of The Dreaded Batter Pudding Hurler of Bexhill-on-Sea.

[@Karlinski73]

[Hard to source] rail rover ticket. A day on the ol' iron road, hopping around visiting different places. Can't beat it.

[@alexrobert13]

I know in the West Mids we have something similiar called a Network Daytripper for €6.90 Its valid on all trains, buses and midland metro ( tram ) in the county of West Mids ( Wolverhampton -Birmingham - Coventry and everywhere between )

[@scottmiller1577]

No restrictions on times at Weekends. #AllTheRailReplacmentBuses

[@ChubbyChecker182]

I got one of these tickets last summer, and twice at the gate the assistant had never heard of the ticket before.

[@abantock]

If you'd carried on panning left with the train on that last shot you'd have seen my house!

[@llux]

Andrew Bantock if only he knew back then, he could have come in for some tea

[@stephenholt4670]

"Summer is still here" - not any more, it isn't! Rain rain rain.

[@sprklfaz]

The Newhaven ghost train video was the first video of yours I stumbled across - nice to see an update!

[@LisaSargent03]

Just to repeat, Pevensey Bay station was recorded in the 1950's by Peter Sellers under his own home movies.

[@robertfahey3252]

Curious the ticket is so hidden from view and not so easy to buy. I wonder how many they sell each year. I like the bit of video of you waiting for the post behind your front door.

[@ballyhigh11]

Not so curious when you understand the nature of our ToCs. The 'hidden from view' aspect is entirely deliberate.

[@adrianbaker5916]

You missed out Fishersgate (Fish) and Portslade (Port)

[@almostthere3733]

Again, how confusing. How do tourists ever manage through all these hidden tricks and traps?

[@johnorchin8567]

Hi Geoff, As an experienced rail traveler, what did you think of the rolling stock on certain S Coast routes, aren't they just the worst in the country. I'm referring to the one where the lady guard was waving to you. I must say you looked very chilled and relaxed, much more so than your London tube marathon. I think the sea air must suit you.

[@flashylite]

Is this the 313 class? I believe they're the oldest EMUs on the network now.

[@johnorchin8567]

flashylite I think they are 313. What are EMUs? During the late 1960's I traveled on 1930's rolling stock which was more comfortable, than these trains. The problem is not so much age,as cheap rubbish to begin with.

[@richardentwisle2815]

The Ghost train still runs twice a day but instead of shunting via the top of branch down towards Seaford

[@smeghead7698]

You can buy this ticket in a shop, one stop travel in north street, Brighton. I've been using this ticket for over a decade. It used to cost £11 then. Thameslink also had a similar ticket.

[@Drdee1]

5:25I I remember that video! The guy on the phone being really non-committal about there being any trains at all All The Stations , before All The Stations

[@shaneD7378]

I didn't even know about this ticket Im going to do this one day

[@lewisdsd]

In Mexico we don’t have those nice trains, but we do have sandier beaches… Nice trade off, huh? Amazing video, Geoff!

[@bishwatntl]

Good to see our old Watford DC line 313s are still in service, though it's not a train to use if you get caught short. At 40+ years old, they must be amongst the oldest units in regular service.

[@IM35461]

There is even one unit running on the line in near original livery (few changes to comply with door marking regulations) Unit 313201 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmareWOPeNqNj6c

[@cjg1970]

The oldest unit in service is on the IOW. Dates from the 1930's.

[@bishwatntl]

@@cjg1970 Ah, yes. I forget about them - but that's a different story.

[@norbitonflyer5625]

@@bishwatntl Other than the IOW units, they are indeed the oldest electric units in the country. However, at least one car from the original diesel HST prototype set of 1972 is still in regular use with East Coast (or was until very recently), and the lounge cars still in use on the Highland Sleeper are mark 2Fs from 1973

[@TheHorrorDevotee]

Geoff, I can confirm, it is in fact pronounced 'Winchelsea'

[@Bugster42]

pevensywouldgetmoreifpiratnumbershadnotfallen

[@southern.spotter]

You missed FISHbourne and FISHERsgate

[@brumsgrub8633]

Seen the notification that you'd done a video, pulled over in a lay bye somewhere in Coventry to watch,

[@siuoleht]

2:20 really reminds me of something Jay Foreman would do.

[@John_259]

Is there no railway line to Walmington-on-Sea? Do the residents not like trains up them?

[@rosiefay7283]

Don't tell 'im!

[@caw25sha]

Who do you think you are kidding?

[@philg.2211]

There must have been a station there because in the theme tune it tells us that "Mr Brown goes off to town on the 8.21" !

[@DavidBromage]

You stupid boy.

[@caw25sha]

@@philg.2211 The station crops up in several episodes, and is central to the one with the king coming through in the royal train.

[@dez3540]

0:44 & 4:04 Love how the beeping of the doors opening lined up with the background music - nice touch 😂👌🏾

[@charlieattwater1886]

What about fishersgate . It has the word fish in it which is in the sea.

[@willhowden5715]

This ticket has been around for years... I 1st used it in 2010/2011.. That was when it was £10 Haywards Heath and South of that. A Full Network Day Save use to be £12.50. Restriction used to be Purchase 48hrs in advance. After 10am M-F. No Restrictions Sat,Sun & Bank Holidays..

[@lunchtakenearly]

Somehow he makes the most mundane stations feel a little bit glamorous

[@london5876]

Michael Turner so true

[@transportandtech]

I’ve bought these tickets a couple of times (starting from Victoria). The first time I was initially planning just to visit Chichester (for a theatre trip and a wander round the city) where an off peak day return would have set me back £31.50 without a Railcard. I ended up having a wonderful day out visiting Arundel and Portsmouth too. One thing to point out is that these tickets don’t work in any ticket barriers which can be a bit frustrating. I also wasn’t able to collect it from a machine at Victoria and had to queue up to get it from the ticket office, but I think there were general problems with their self service ticket machines at the time. Thanks for a great video Geoff!

[@laju]

Pretty sure "haven" is also a "sea" word.

[@DickHolman]

It's a synonym for harbour.

[@Puckoon2002]

About 10 years ago that ticket cost only £10, used it to go to Gaugemaster's at Ford.

[@michellefeb85]

As a single ticket from London to Shoreham can cost more that £20, this may be a cheaper way to make that journey. (Although I do usually just buy a return from shoreham and discard the outbound bit as a return is cheaper than a single). Love the fact you were in Shoreham-by-Sea

[@allenwilliams1306]

Why do the people who work out fares think we are stupid?

[@AndreiTupolev]

My goodness, what a load of faff buying the blinking thing. You have to either collect it from a station (so why not, like, make it possible to buy the thing there as well?!) or evn better, wait eagerly for it to be posted to you.

[@nathanw9770]

Well that's what you get In return for it being so cheap lol

[@aidenleeds]

Geoff have you seen Leeds City Station it’s completely been redeveloped you MUST do a video

[@TechRyze]

Ugh, Southern. You're lucky that any of the trains even turned up! 🚂

[@EdwardMason9000]

I was at Newhaven Ferry Port in August, and I saw them working on the level crossing. They must have been in the process of removing it...

[@simonacott7583]

You missed PORTslade (another seaside related word)

[@hhgttg69]

beach made of rocks/pebbles, no thanks

[@TheSniper9752]

Lol, never go to the southeast coast for a beach trip then. If you like the sandy ones definitely go to Porthcurno in Cornwall, one of the best beaches imo.

[@ChubbyChecker182]

I much prefer pebble beaches, just need a cheap pair of beach shoes and you can park up at the beach, have a lounge and a dip, dry up and off you go again

[@Jim-kt6is]

I have an annual season from Pevensey Bay to Pevensey and Westham. Not been there since 1974.

[@MH-sw9fy]

I bet that was Vici playing at being a post person man, lady

[@richardarcher3254]

This was a very interesting post by you which I enjoyed very much. On reaching Cooden Beach by way of that long walk on the shingle from Normans Bay Halt I'm surprised you didn't call in to the Cooden Beach Hotel adjacent to the station for a well earned cuppa! BTW you could have had some background music "Sussex by the Sea"

[@mrnikita7502]

5:05 a guard on a southern train! Wow

[@28481k]

This ticket exists for more than 10 years and has a group daysave option

[@2500gamma]

Used to have it's own southern green ticket and cost a tenner!

[@michaelvidstv2860]

That is bad because Birmingham have a day trippers ticket and you can use any company name in Birmingham example virgin london north western west midland railway cross country etg for adult £8.50

[@benzeman118]

The ticket has some evening restrictions too, although Southern aren't entirely sure exactly what they are (see twitter.com/SouthernRailUK/status/1180404710689390594?s=09 - perhaps someone here can help?). It can actually be cheaper than a return. For example, I often travel from my home in Haywards Heath to visit my Nanny in Leighton Buzzard. The fare (via Kensington Olympia and with my gold card discount) is £22.30 - for two Southern services, changing at Clapham Junction. While some ticket splitting is possible at weekends, a DaySave is more convenient (and still cheaper than the "standard" return).

[@jamesjames9226]

Train admin is insane in the UK; there should be - scan bank cards, travel on any train, no peaks, slashed prices, capped prices, non profit, no exec wages, environment congestion budget used etc

[@juoig7799]

GWR has travel cards and you can take one and you get unlimited travel for a whole day between a station and London Underground zones 1-6 for just £1.

[@roderickmain2154]

I notice the siding into Newhaven Marine had a bar across with a red lamp which rather indicates it isnt used anymore. Of course, its raison d'etre, as a boat train terminus, rather declined in the 60s (due to RoRo ferries) and furthermore when they opened the Chunnel. Quai Henri IV in Dieppe disappeared many moons ago along with the fast rail link to Paris. So heres a thought - how many former Boat Train terminii still exist? (Littlehampton for one). Another thing station wise from your video - whats the remotest station from the town its supposed to serve. ?

[@discogareth]

What’s the difference between this video and the one I watched yesterday?

[@ZiggySheppardUK]

I was born in Winchelsea which is England's smallest town to have its own mayor.

[@TransportFanForYou]

You can do it before 10 am just buy it from your local train station(No Southern) like if your local around SWR or whatever you can start before 10am

[@RUOKH]

Geoff - what about BEXHILL-ON-SEA which you passed through whence en-route from Cooden Beach to Winchelsea?

[@davidlally592]

Mm enjoyable and of course now in 2022 the early train stock shown (class 313) is officially the oldest still in regular use on National Rail and must soon be up for replacement.(Only the Bakerloo 1973 tube stock, still trundling on, is older!!) Best wishes.

[@mafen7600]

I am wondering. Why is Bexhill-on-Sea only Bexhill your map? I think it's because it's unambiguously, unlike Durrington near Stonehenge. So you missed Bexhill-on-Sea which is a pity.

[@AndreiTupolev]

If it's not valid even on Thameslink (or, I presume, Gatwick Express), then what is the point of them all being lumped together in one gigantic mega-franchise?

[@nathanw9770]

They're all just owned by the same company. Thameslink, GX and Southern are basically still separate as they haven't merged yet.

[@73APhotography]

Someguy, they have merged as the only TOC is GTR. Thus, legally speaking, the ticket is valid on all GTR services

[@tornadoyeti]

73A Photography Absolute Humbug, only valid on Southern services.

[@rogink]

I live in Portsmouth and Daysave used to be the cheapest ticket to get to London - no need for multiple stops. But around 7-8 years ago it got more expensive than an off-peak return so I haven't used it since. Looking at Southern's website I see I need to book at least 3 days in advance. And because I'm not starting at a Southern station the ticket would have to posted. That needs 5 days! Still, at least they make an effort, unlike SWT/SWR which is a rip-off however far in advance you book!

[@crispyfrogs]

It was worth a like for the postman gag alone.

[@David-sv7by]

What was better was the Southern Region seven day Rover ticket.....about £9.00 in 1974.

[@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne]

Does it allow you to get to Corrour? Is Corrour near the sea?

[@letthetunesflow]

Having to have this posted to you is absurd… Basically makes this ticket pointless for all but the least spontaneous people in the world… Sounds like they had to legally offer this, or made it deliberately hard to buy for the sake of a promotion they wanted to look good, but not really have purchased very often… Kinda like some required tourism board marketing collaboration, that they were required to participate in…

[@alanreader4815]

Oh i do like to be beside the Daysave.

[@richardt.rogers2730]

Totally thought this said 'DaySlave' ticket...

[@macjim]

When you run out of stations with sea in the names, will you start on the bees?

[@alecfoord2080]

Hi Geoff, it was your video about the Newhaven Marina that discovered your great vids. And that was via Wikipedia on Marina station! Keep up the good work.

[@kumatoni5245]

Pevensey and Westham - nice pronunciation. :) Even some locals get it wrong and make it sound like the football team.

[@Lee_303]

20 quid & not actually allowed to sit on TLGNs ironing board seats of pain. Bargain.