Unloading a Lumina

The plaintiff purchased a car from the defendant, but when he went to put gas in the vehicle, the plaintiff noticed there was a hole in the tank. The plaintiff brought the car into a shop, and they told him it was unsafe to drive, so the plaintiff is suing the seller for a refund. The defendant, a certified mechanic, insists the plaintiff knew what he was getting when he purchased the 17-year-old vehicle, and he denies owing anything.
#PeoplesCourt #RealityTV #Court

[@kennethlgabriel]

Doug never fails to pull the dagger out and slide it right back in! This was a ridiculous case.

[@Astroabh]

Never fails lol

[@bj7057]

One of these days, he is going to eat a knuckle sandwich. 😂

[@kennethlgabriel]

@@Astroabh NEVER! Sometimes I’m like Doug give them a break!

[@kennethlgabriel]

@@bj7057 Exactly-A knuckle sandwich with vegan cheese and hold the onions! 🤣

[@LunchMeatTrump]

​@@bj7057I'm shocked nobody ever just socked him in the jaw. He's funny, but he would really piss me off with he way he talks if I just lost the case.

[@amandar176]

Why ppl still out here buying vehicles without a mechanic's inspection? And has the audacity to be mad when the car has issues.

[@g355150]

Because, as a whole, people are stupid🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️. Dude bought a car for $1800 and expected it to be perfect. 😂😂😭🌺

[@crystalshaw8744]

I'm sure I don't know...giggle

[@heidicrimmings9615]

🤷‍♀️🙄🤷‍♀️🙄🤷‍♀️ ⚘⚘⚘

[@cosmo6180]

Ur exactly right!!

[@MarSayRadio]

17 years old at that

[@kathyclaudiochandler]

I feel like Doug is always the MVP with his passive aggressive comments that make me chuckle.

[@righttoouropinionthanks4710]

Yep!! Leave it to “Dougie” to really rub it in!! Lol!

[@user-vd5ii4eo7u]

Legend! 😅

[@chuck9380]

If he is a mechanic he knew exactly what was wrong and said nothing and I bet he charged him for the car as if it was in good condition

[@kenma8806]

That said, it doesn't matter.. If you buy a car you always need to check it over from front to back, inside and outside.. Let the buyer beware.. Take a mechanic with you if you must.. it is a great investment in the long run

[@spacepanda9037]

It's called puffing take a mechanic all used anything is as is unless stated otherwise

[@ynnails3712]

Can’t believe this guy really thought he was going to win.

[@Mrs.buildingblackwealth]

Right

[@apoliticallevi]

Delusional

[@namewithheld7835]

That guy was a scammer. Yes As Is. BUT there are lemon laws for a reason. Obviously it was a scam rust bucket

[@traceyaz125]

@@namewithheld7835lemon laws apply to new cars

[@kakishisfriend1126]

I think he probably thought lemon laws applied here

[@ingerhall3265]

I brought a As Is 2006 Ford Focus for $1,000 in 2018. It currently has 250k miles and starts up and runs excellent everyday! No major repairs yet.

[@claraesparza7030]

That's awesome!! Love it

[@t.lucalake8963]

The plaintiff should feel embarrassed for filing the lawsuit. He is toooooooooo damn old for this mess. I can't stand when the losing party says, 'I didn't get a chance to present all of my evidence."

[@Crob100]

Why was the plaintiff so surprised at the verdict. OMG we've seen enough of these car cases to know what the verdict is going to be.

[@db2888]

I bought an older vehicle (2008) with only 30,000 miles. I thought that was great, however, had many issues. I was told by my mechanic that, though you would think that’s a good deal, it’s not. Older cars that do not have many miles means it’s parts are not being used as much and therefore are more likely to have problems. Never heard this before but it came from a trusted mechanic.

[@1967davethewave]

That can be true for sure. A car with low miles without being too low is probably better than a super low mileage car for that very reason. Seals dry out, metal rusts and even plastic can degrade from just setting. The worst thing is a low mileage car with a lot of engine run hours. Like a car that was putted around in the city without ever getting on the highway and getting fully warmed up. Almost no cars have hour meters though. A lot of newer trucks do. I work for utility company in the fleet department repairing the vehicles. They spend so much time idling that a 50k mile utility truck has the engine wear of a regular truck driven on the highway with 200k miles or more. We actually change the oil about 4 times as often as regular vehicles to try and keep them from having failures.

[@you3ee]

Whoever told you that is an idiot. its not true

[@1967davethewave]

@@jennifermarlow. That's the truth and it's only getting worse. In the 90's manufacturing techniques became exceptional, oil quality increased and computer management of the engine meant it was always in top tune. As a result there was a surge in engine life. After working for the previous decade to assure cars weren't going to be any good more than about 150k miles they all of a sudden were going 300k and more. Anyone whose owned a 95 Buick car with a 3.8 engine or a Ford with a truck with a 4.9 can tell you that. So Ford discontinued the 4.9 and GM made sure to sabotage the 3.8 with faulty gaskets and plastic engine parts. Today it's rare to find engines that don't have some issue like bad lifters, defective timing chains and components or transmissions that barely make it out of warranty before leaving you on the side of the road. They want to make sure we have to replace our cars every few years. I drove a 1923 Model T a couple weeks ago. No frills and uncomfortable as hell but you can keep it running with a pair of pliers and some bailing wire.

[@Pr0jectbb]

I’m so Confused why he thought he was special enough to not have the car inspected

[@mrsbook5206]

That guy definitely ripped him off, but he should have gotten it checked out before the purchase. My dad would call this bought sence‼️😩😩

[@somebodywatchin]

Oh, I dunno. If defendant didn’t experience those problems, he prob didn’t know

[@34stzoo]

She made the right ruling. He did nothing to have the car checked out and when he did and found issues he wants his money back. It doesn't work that way!

[@faznout]

Why is it that so many adults are so gullible when it comes to these type of situations. Adults by the way who are well over 40 years old and should know better by now.

[@TopherGrant]

I think it's more to do with people thinking they are special. So many people think laws and rules shouldn't apply to them.

[@leddoandroidgirl]

Very gullible. We just had a case in my building where someone came in and knocked on doors, gave some poor sob story and got older people to give him cash, blank checks, AND credit card info!! The police came and this dude has every drug under the sun on his person, crazy cause had he not been caught you've just give this man all your banking info and he knows where you live. Crazy!!!

[@DonziGT230]

People don't want to spend a few bucks having a car checked out by a mechanic so they risk loosing thousands of dollars. I've done lots of pre-purchase inspections and I'm pretty sure that less than 50% of them were worth buying, including cars from dealerships.

[@iamthomasgreenman]

Ignorance is bliss. Refuses to help himself but gets mad when the judge won’t help him. SMH.

[@Bishop545454]

I love how people throw around the phrase "hard earned money" like they work long days in coal mines. 😂

[@TopherGrant]

Only coal miners work hard? Weird

[@Bishop545454]

​@@TopherGrantYou're missing the point. A lot of people think they got it so hard.

[@TopherGrant]

@@Bishop545454 true

[@highlander666]

😂

[@justinbailey4027]

It doesn't matter what people do to earn a living hard earned money is just working for it despite what they do

[@tbecker97204]

Seems like IF you know there's damage in a gas tank, *you should disclose that* right away. If you're selling a home and *you KNOW* it has certain issues you HAVE TO disclose those in the seller's contract.

[@slmel7]

Actually, it does apply to cars as well. The judge was 100% wrong on this one. It is illegal to sell a car with a rusted out frame without disclosing it. It amazes me how this judge has been allowed to stay on air for so long after so many unlawful rulings.

[@foxwithtubesox1075]

Bro, if you live in the NE, and you're buying a used vehicle over 10 years old, you KNOW it's gonna be a rust bucket.

[@shawnalynn8428]

I recently sold a car and my husband was making fun of me because I printed out pics and had a very detailed contract but I've watched enough of these shows to know you gotta have proof just in case

[@crazycavgirl]

Love his face at 8:33 lol

[@ogbenavides8364]

😄 🤣

[@paultin3302]

The defendant new it was so rusty that’s why he put new tyres to cover it up, not a nice person.

[@teairathomas663]

Dang he sold him a lemon and got away with it…. He knew that car had problems before he sold it… Craigslist got the worst scammer on that site it’s crazy

[@TopherGrant]

It has nothing to do with Craigslist. It's about "as-is" sales.

[@suvariboy]

If you buy a used car, have a mechanic inspect it. If you don’t, that’s your problem. “As is” means what it says: as is.

[@ashleyschellinger6052]

AS IS AS IS AS IS. - use common sense

[@debrabmartinez6027]

I totally agree 😢

[@debrabmartinez6027]

This is bull, I totally agreed with the person who said defendant knew that car had problems and sold the plaintiff a lemon and got away with it😢

[@pannamal5182]

If the plaintiff bent over just to look under he didn’t need an inspection. He would walk from the junk.

[@PHOENIX1699]

Doug has been extra “spicy” lately lol

[@El_Roi75]

This guy actually thought he would not have to have work done on a used car from CRAIG’S LIST? Seriously man 😒😂

[@leisurefarm]

It's hard to understand these plaintiffs sometimes. They can't find the time to get a mechanic to check a car before purchase but can find the time to file a lawsuit, gather evidence and show up for court? I reckon the lawsuit takes even more time. I guess they are reluctant to put in the effort till after a few thousands has been lost.

[@BCNeil]

Its a scam. He was suing for $2000. More than he even paid

[@righttoouropinionthanks4710]

Lol! Yep, plus he told Dougie the judge didn’t give him a chance to present his mountain of evidence! Sooo he had time to gather all that evidence, but couldn’t bother with having his own mechanic check it BEFORE buying!! Ugh, so tired of litigants who want someone else to pay for their mistake??

[@arianefr78]

How can the defendant claim to be a mechanic and yet apparently didn't know the car was leaking fuel and was a danger on the road, surely he knew he was selling a lemon and the judge let him get away with it, shame on the judge...

[@INDIGO.GODDESS_573]

the judge didnt let him get away with anything... its the law.. he bought the car as is.. that means you cant comeback complaining about it or get the seller to pay to fix whatever is wrong with the car.. its sucks but thats the law.

[@TheZogie]

​@@INDIGO.GODDESS_573 no actually, the plaintiff could've had a case.. the problem is just like when he purchased the car he didn't have a mechanic present he didn't have one to testify for his case. And he should've. The defendant claims to be the car guy, right? So the what car guy didn't know gasoline was leaking from the tank? The gasoline had to be leaking in his driveway.. he didn't let the plaintiff drive it on purpose. Most Laws have clauses .. the plaintiff did a bad job at presenting his case.

[@juliecranford534]

The judge’s job is to listen to the facts and apply the law. There are no warranties in these cases unless the seller makes a promise. This seller did no such thing. We can all speculate about what he actually knew as a mechanic or just as a previous owner of the car, but it is up to the buyer to get an independent mechanic to look at it before buying. There have been thousands of these cases throughout the decades of TPC. That is the law. Buyer beware. The Judge didn’t let the defendant get away with anything. You can argue that the law did. Not the Judge.

[@billsurley9264]

Sigh, I've seen this case 1 million times already! Sadly I will likely see it a million times more.

[@TopherGrant]

Yup. Until the average person learns what "as-is" means

[@Sweetpea1128]

My Dad taught me “caveat emptor” when I was a kid. He was very proactive! 🤣❤️

[@commander37]

for those who might not know; Caveat emptor is a Latin phrase that means "let the buyer beware".

[@randys6220]

That car is so horribly corroded underneath it is like it set in flood waters for some time.

[@Musicfan-dz6yz]

Defendant or “Car guy” is a total bull shitter and was fully aware of the car problems as he probably realized as he was getting car “fixed” what additional problems it had. He figured pass that problem off to someone else and say it has no issues. Plaintiff should have taken it to mechanic regardless but still selling it like there is no issues when you know there is issues is scummy

[@TopherGrant]

Scummy but legal. Just like every lawyer

[@manthony777]

The defendant knew there was a gas leak and the car was a rusted piece of crap. Marilyn is Wrong. Plaintiff deserves a full refund

[@brittneyb3083]

What is a beautiful question? People just be saying anything 😂

[@Soulprettyso]

I’ve never someone on this show get their money for a “used car/as is purchase” 😂😅

[@spacepanda9037]

The plaintiff too damn seasoned for this

[@wvrjl]

People need to learn what AS IS means. When you agree to a contract (including buying a car), you can't then say OOPS! Changed my mind!

[@bunnibrick]

Plaintiff a grown azz man and should know better!!! Get from under that rock Patrick!!!

[@wvrjl]

That car was definitely a lemon, but "as is" is final unless there's fraud. ESPECIALLY when you aren't buying it saftied, be very, very careful. Do all your checks BEFORE you buy it

[@kakishisfriend1126]

Id never buy a 1998 car without a mechanic checking it outside

[@leofredette19]

17 year old car. It may have been running Great, but it's over due for problems.

[@alyssahamlett]

Luminos actually really hold their value. They don't have a lot of issues the ones that they do have are easily fixable. The newest lumino you can find is still gonna Run You 2500 to 3 Grand if it's in any kind of decent shape. Even with over a 100000 miles.

[@maxinef6654]

Dude, you didn’t get that old car checked out before you bought it. That’s on you.

[@namewithheld7835]

That car was obviously in a flood. He bought it super cheap then sold it as a rust bucket to a careless buyer

[@beadoll8025]

People really just aren't that bright

[@heidicrimmings9615]

💡💡💡

[@sunnyscott4876]

I had a 1997 car that had a leak in the gas tank. It was dangerous, but I drove it regularly, and I never got it fixed. When I sold it, I specifically pointed it out to the buyer and noted it on the bill of sale. Never an issue.

[@burtonm3220]

People need to learn to pay the couple hundred bucks for a mechanic to look the car over. The problem with that is if you're buying something not worth alot...the you don't wanna. You should really consider the cost of a mechanic check to be part of the cost of buying a used car.

[@shirleywiese5230]

The plaintiff seems to believe he has s above the law. Anyone who buys a car for $1,800 should know and expect to put some money in it. smh

[@highlander666]

Hilarious that they're always buying cheap, sh*tbox cars rather than saving up all that wasted money for one decent vehicle, then are shocked it didnt work out😂

[@OOOGhost-girlOOOshhhhh]

I believe the defendant might of known even though he was under oath he wasn’t going to be truthful bout knowing bout the gas leak because he didn’t want the car back or give him his money back. plaintive might’ve done better if he would’ve re-sold it just as the defendant did on most car deals they are as is . Unless the buyer is under 18…

[@TheZogie]

He's the car guy.... he knew that's the reason why he wouldn't let him drive the car. If when the plaintiff filled up that car the gas came out.. it was leaking gas in the defendants driveway, on the street ... he knew.

[@somebodywatchin]

I had a 97 lumina that was structurally unsafe with a leaking gas tank.

[@davidwhite3180]

How about instead of getting food make a u turn and take the lemon back??? Ridiculous Then he mad at the Judge. That means he hasn’t learned a good lesson. 😢

[@34stzoo]

4:00 It's cheaper in the long run to have an independent mechanic look at a car before you buy it.

[@PlugJh]

I always bring my red seal mechanic friend, when I’m spending hard earned money! Last dealer let us use his lift in the shop and all to go over the car and 100%!

[@anjuelle3997]

They're not going to fix it.

[@bryanhenderson9637]

two words...."As Is".

[@WarGrowlmon18]

I mean who would think to check the gas tank for holes???

[@mclaybry]

The Plaintiff's actions in the hallway show his true character. He was completely ignorant buying an older (American) car without taking it to a mechanic. Stupid.

[@markbirchette8740]

Caviat Emptor!😂

[@Tiramysuu]

Doug really doesn't care 😂😂😂😂

[@ledepart.design]

Lumina ‘99 is the worst care Chevrolet ever made. That car was a result of nafta agreement to produce cars in CA and MX.

[@brianvalley5223]

Buyer beware. Next time, get dirty and check out the vehicle. Don't be stupid with your money.

[@tunisiancrochetchannel]

That man is over 50. How on Earth did he get to that age not knowing that "as is" means just that? LOL

[@lindaalvarez8855]

The Plaintiff should have gone to a more reliable auto mechanic before purchasing a used car. No other proof was given on his side.

[@101sarahjane]

She's right.. The guy didn't even get down and look underneath the car.. He doesn't insist on test-driving the car himself. And he doesn't bring a mechanic to look over the car. After looking at those pictures and seeing how rusted it is underneath the car. It looks like two different cars. He's so busy looking at the shiny body of the car, he misses looking underneath the car. Just what did he expect? He didn't check it out... It's an as-is car .

[@zoeg7985]

The mechanic /seller knew exactly how rusty it was especially if he worked on it, this law stinks that it’s always on the buyer but that’s the law

[@desh_holm]

Very rude after losing the case they try to make him feel worse.

[@AndreLePuck]

That guy was a mechanic and admitted to working on the car, so he saw the filthy, rusty deteriorating underside before selling... and then comes on National TV and says "I thought I sold him a good car"... lol what a sneaky crook. The "As is" law can be overturned if the seller lies. The seller said he was a certified mechanic and told him it was a good car. That is fraudulent and misleading. Any other mechanic would have said that car was junky rusting piece of crap.

[@nBasedAce]

That's blatantly wrong. Saying that it is a good car is vague enough that that statement cannot be used in a court of law as evidence that the seller lied about the car.

[@AndreLePuck]

@@nBasedAce sneaky crook and so are you for supporting him

[@TopherGrant]

Good luck proving that in court.

[@AndreLePuck]

@@TopherGrant uh those pictures were good enough for me

[@TopherGrant]

@@AndreLePuck good thing you're not a mechanic or judge, lady!

[@PlugJh]

Buddy ur in a all sales are final!! Sorry u didn’t do ur do diligence! Expensive lesson!!

[@theburntoutlighter1084]

Wow what a baby 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chuck9380]

Chevy Luminas are not cars you want to buy if you want something reliable. I’m surprised either one of them thought it was a good car in the first place

[@elybeanz4500]

If these cases are AS IS sales then why does the judge even entertain them? I’m sure she can review the case in her chambers and realize the plaintiff is out of luck 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@TopherGrant]

For television.

[@bash547]

Cuz she gets a 6 figure paycheck per episode

[@mexicanspec]

Because it is a TV show and for our benefit.

[@billmoran3219]

Plaintiff and defendant were both paid to appear, so with the sale of the vehicle to a junkyard and what he gets for the appearance plaintiff is probably only out $600 or $700 bucks!

[@BCNeil]

judges like easy days too. No thinking needed today

[@thecommodoredecker]

CJ GET TO THE TRAIN!

[@ashleyschellinger6052]

It astounds me how many idiots there are out there who don’t understand AS IS

[@johnnyb6151]

If a family member is going to college I provide them with an 18 yr old car with a gas leak. No wonder the car was no longer needed by the family member. An internal coolant leak is an indicator that the car had a cracked head.

[@marysanders3380]

If i can't drive it; that means something is really wrong with it. My family are full of mechanics. When you test drive; push it all the way to the floor. One car was smoking & spitting out fluid from the bottom when i finished with it😆

[@Degorff]

AS IS IS AS IS

[@alwayswfpb]

Tomorrow is back to work Thursday…I need SIX People’s Court 😍episodes! Thanks in advance! 😉

[@erogg1]

I love the Judge but sometime she can ask a stupid question “if you had insurance why wouldn’t you let him drive it” simple he don’t know that man 🤣

[@hadley407]

You can’t sell a car person to person and expect the buyer to not want to drive your car. I’ve bought and sold cars person to person and have actually gone and driven a car by myself and the seller doesn’t even go with me, which I’ve actually been shocked when they don’t. I’ve also been the seller of vehicles and I do make sure to go when they’re driving my car. But you can’t expect someone to want to buy your car and you not let them test drive it personally.

[@erogg1]

@@hadley407 I’m not saying you cant expect that what I’m saying is the expectation that just because he had insurance he should be auto ok with anyone test driving the car is crazy it’s a private sell the person has no obligation to buy it especially if they crash it and it’s also a older car if it’s totaled he would get no where near what he is looking to sell it for from insurance …so yeah if you look a little sketchy or that I might have a issue if you mess up my car nah you not gonna drive it

[@jimbodanssondodge1011]

im a mecanic and the 1st thing i do all the time when i buy a car if looking under ,,i check the rest after

[@BCNeil]

I could tell who wins 15 seconds in

[@lawjd96]

why did it take you so long?

[@christopherramon-reid2000]

Doug is priceless 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stlyelove417]

As is is as is

[@namnack]

Aren't there companies that offer a mechanic to accompany people to a private car sale for a small fee? Judging by this and similar shows that could be a terrific business opportunity.

[@randys6220]

The problem is even a mechanic may not be able to determine whether some part is going to give out in even in a week or 2 on a used car. Some buyers would not understand that and blame the mechanic for everything that goes wrong with the car from then on regardless of any disclaimer signed. That could be one big headache instead of a terrific business opportunity.

[@namnack]

@@randys6220 The idea would be to point out the more obvious flaws with the car that a random person would not detect, not to OK a car. Obviously that can't be a thing unless you have a time machine and/or AI driven 3D scanner or something.

[@floydpattersonii4996]

:12 - this actually shdv been a case about the plaintiff suing his seamstress for taking up the pants length too high

[@richardb7999]

Plaintiff started out nice and turned nasty at the end. Somebody his age should know .perfectly well As-Is cars should be checked by a mechanic prior to purchase....

[@joemagwood9130]

his problem was he bought a Chevy Lumina he would have been better off buying a bicycle.

[@heidicrimmings9615]

😉⚘

[@FishHeadsIV]

Another example of a backyard dealer. I don't believe his story at all

[@barbarawallach1334]

Judge Milan is, ridiculous, just replace the rusty parts. Geez, wow, that's a lot of rust. Then she doesn't say anything other than, you bought it as is....

[@oldageisdumb]

I’m only a minute in but let me just spell this out for anyone who is car shopping. If you buy a car that only cost $1800, IT’S GOING TO BE A PIECE OF CRAP WITH STUFF WRONG WITH IT. It’s just the way of the world. Stop thinking you can pay practically nothing for an old car and then expect it to run like a new car. Ain’t gonna happen.

[@nycmamii]

Doug is a menace lmaoooo 😂😂

[@Stressless2023]

Defendant was a car flipping con artist but the plaintiff was an ignorant consumer with poor judgment and comprehension skills.

[@rckkeller9437]

I understand the judges ruling, however, the defendant is still a crook!

[@jennyclark2950]

I don't like Doug. He is so rude to people .

[@hadley407]

Another case of an AS-IS sale. Buyers have to learn to spend the $100 to get it checked at a mechanic before or bring someone with you that knows about cars. It’s always BUYER BEWARE!

[@fenrichvega6166]

Judge must be sooooo tired of dealing with people that walk in with a lawsuit regarding a used car and as soon as she asks "did u have a mechanic look at it before u bought it" they ALWAYS say "no". Yet they complain the car cant be driven,too many issues,etc. Ya the one buying the damn used car without it being looked at first for "insert impatient reason here". And this plaintiff just comes off like a hot headed dumb ass with how he acting

[@rlwells6475]

You too old to be saying you look for the hood in people u take things off face value … u gonna keep being in a world of hurt smh

[@kimberlyadorno280]

JM doesn't know much about cars

[@Amy-xoxo305]

AS IS!! U AINT SPECIAL!!

[@jsaleh415]

I mean who buys a lumina in 2017 i know its 2023 already but comon man

[@cosmo6180]

It’s a 17yr old car, what did he expect 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@meaka1979]

The defendant is a crook. He knew that car shouldn't be on the road. This isn't his first time doing this

[@Angela-qq6kq]

Look up the law before you go on national tv and embarrass yourself. As is means just that, it doesn’t matter if she let you stand there for 30 mins explaining your case in 4 different languages. The law is the law and her hands are tied. bottom line…… you’re out of gas.