UNLOCK Your CREATIVITY w/ Rick Rubin | Rich Roll Podcast

Legendary music producer & Def Jam founder Rick Rubin shares his unique approach to artistry, spirituality, and more ideas explored in his new book 'The Creative Act'. To read more about Rick and peruse the full show notes, go here👉🏾bit.ly/richroll730a
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:56 - Interview Start
00:05:13 - Rick's New Book - The Creative Act
00:10:53 - On RunDMC / Aerosmith Crossover
00:14:49 - How Rick started his career with The Beastie Boys
00:21:55 - Rick on the work of creativity & defining success in music
00:29:38 - On an artist's relationship to the audience
00:32:38 - AD BREAK
00:34:10 - Rick on the job of a producer - "What do you exactly do?"
00:40:57 - On Rick's Mystical Experience & Depression
00:50:07 - Rick on "The Muse" or "The Source" and being open and present
00:56:26 - On Movements in Art & Everyone Being Creative
01:01:58 - Solving problems, AI & Humility
01:11:20 - Putting these ideas into practice in music
01:21:39 - Ending with an exercise
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[@dreamchef1626]

i HAD THE LUCK AND THE HONOR TO BE RICK RUBINS AND FAMILY PRIVATE CHEF FOR TWO WEEKS IN ITALY. RICK RUBIN IS A PERSON THAT HAS A UNIQUE PERSONALITY AND WISDOM ALL AROUND HIM. COOKING EVERYDAY WAS A DELIGHT AND TOTALY FUN AND I ALWAYS GAVE MY BEST, HE MAKES YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE. LISTENING TO HIM IS COMPLETLY RELAXING AND INSPIRING. HIS POWER , WISDOM AND VULNERABILITY MAKE HIM CLOSE AND HUMAN. I WOULD LIKE TO MEET HIM AGAIN!

[@david_heffner]

cool man! thanks for sharing

[@mahimagabriel3798]

How blessed you were @dreamchef1626 to be able to spend time with him. I have known him only from a distance, first heard about him when a friend of mine worked for him at Shangra La - he worked for him for 5 years as a studio engineer and just loved him and every minute he got to spend with him! Around the time of covid, Rick told him he thought my friend should work with SZA and he introduced them and as a result my friend won 3 Grammy's this year .... was nominate for EIGHT! He's only about 32 years old ... and a really wonderful guy as well .... Anyways I feel Rick IS my MENTOR even if from a distance and hope to meet him someday! :)

[@heathpiper]

I interview 60, 70, 80, 90 + year olds around Australia for a living. As you both said - it's an important historical time capsule for families - to record their voice and how they see/saw the world. The conversations are profound, silly, endearing and will live beyond the physical form. All the best, Heath piper

[@modamodamode]

I'd just like to put it out there that Rich Roll (for me) is the greatest voice in healing media since Krista Tippett's On Being. Funny, real, gets guests to disclose deeply and sincerely. Not afraid of real topics that are relevant threads in so many different people. He always brings it back to the similarities, the common, the shared pov. Rick gets us to decloak, shed that skin Ive been living in as to embrace what is God given or in other corners given by the universe. Namaste, both of you!

[@itisdeagle]

Rubin. Always great. As for rich, he's gotta tone down the controlling ego.

[@PaulCarterArt]

Inspiring and empowering on many levels. I will be listening to this one again to get everything I missed the first time. Thanks guys for sharing the experience and stories on your creative journey, this is priceless.

[@bbcerise]

I could listen to that man for hours. Thank God for Rick Rubin. (And thank you Rich Roll for that great interview!). I'm "binge listening" to his interviews about his book and can't wait to read it. (Also, his story about how he asked the Universe for a sign made me cry. I'm stuck these days, and can't find any answers really. Gonna keep asking. - And I precise that I'm a meditation teacher, so I guess, quite open and connected! Sometimes we're just stuck and we have to accept it...)

[@MikeInVentura]

you got this pal-hang in there and do what I do Push Through.

[@MrBrindleStyle]

Or not - as the case may Be…

[@MrBrindleStyle]

Not PUSH I mean - lol rather than not keep on keeping on…

[@franklingell4546]

I'm a bit stuck on this month too and whenever that happens, I ask myself "maybe I'm supposed to be learning something new" So yeah, it's really good to stay open because maybe you're supposed to get tough this month (or however long) maybe I'm supposed to learn something new, I better pay attention! Just my two cents (not sure it's even worth that much😅)

[@eilishbouchier5209]

There are cycles in everything. In lunar cycle it’s the dark moon in seasons it’s winter as rumi said and don’t think the garden loses its ecstasy in winter. It’s quiet but the roots are down there riotous. Listen closely your next state, phase, project is calling you x

[@el_ambient_dude7424]

Anybody who is commenting God bless you. Some amazing conversation about rational thought. Music is such conduit of possibilities that has taken me on a personal journey. As an artist I love creative work and how it just comes to me!

[@CamsCampbell]

I love how Rick is talking about paying attention and attuning our antennae, because that's what I was doing when this podcast, this book and the interview with Andrew Huberman all fell onto my radar on the same day. All while I've been journalling about my own creative process in an attempt to receive better and create more freely.

[@wanetahw]

“If I could produce an artist, support them in doing their best work, without ever meeting or speaking to them, that would be the highest form of it - I have not achieved that level yet.” I respectfully disagree. You’ve done just that for so many of us for decades! The irony is that the highest form of achievement for many of us is to be able to work directly with you. 🙏🏾🙏🏽🙏🏿 You’re an incredible vessel Rick Rubin✨

[@WisdomWorkshop]

love this comment. so good.

[@Loos3scr3ws]

Wow , what a beautiful perspective, and I agree, he’s had such a profound impact on my work and my peers, Rick is such an inspiration.

[@wilhelmvg9978]

the very first part of that is “produce an artist”, as in directly. Sure he’s inspired and supporter strangers but not produce for them. So no he has not reached that level yet

[@MrBrindleStyle]

But it’s multidimensional- and simultaneous. It’s ok to let the speaker - speak and leave air around the thought gor it to forment withou addition and or subtraction.

[@mahimagabriel3798]

I've said that same thing about Rick .... HE IS DOING THAT! I FEEL HIS PRESENCE ..... Just listen to interviews, the book and I feel inspired ... I don't even need to listen to the words .... that's just his Way of Being and I give thanks it's contagious :)

[@SafeSpaceCafe]

I am glad Rick is coming out in the internet age, I found a deep respect listening to this man & hope to read that book soon. Rubin ain't no fool in...

[@ryangunwitch-black]

I realized pretty early on that there was a common thread between most of my favorite music before I was even out of high school. That common thread was Rick Rubin. He was the first producer I followed the way I follow certain artists. I hope to work with him sooner than later.

[@visionboardmusicvision4the513]

I also think that Aerosmith jumped on board because Steve Tyler knew he was black and had black lineage even back then, although he couldn't really come right out with it till recently! What a beautiful merging way to go Rick Rubin!

[@hummingbird66]

Wow, thank you so much Rich for this thought provoking interview. I will share it with those who I believe, hope will be open to it. Another life altering episode to ponder.blessungs from Canada

[@TaniaPomalesArt]

I've always said I see the world as a giant painting. I'm an artist, a painter. And when I say that, I get funny looks. But this is it... It is my way of being. Everything is art. There is a painting in every face, in every moment, no matter how mundane or extravagant... And it's just how I see life. I get it now. Rick Rubin made me understand myself more. Thank you for this podcast. My brain cracked open and let in a new world.

[@themindunset]

Two of my favorite voices talking about magic. It's nearly impossible to explain how these men do what they do but god it's fun listening to them try. I learn something every time.

[@beatricetrezevant7751]

I listened to the book on Audible while painting in my studio. It’s the most inspiring work I’ve listened to in a long time! Just love the concepts, will listen to this book over and over!!!

[@roslynr9767]

That is exactly what I have been doing and exactly what I feel! Paint on!

[@scottyreifsnyder2842]

My goodness Rich uses the word apocryphal at the 1:11:45 mark like ppl use it in conversation everyday. It means a story or statement of doubtful authenticity, although widely circulated as being true. Love you Rich for making us not only healthier but keeping us smart!

[@velocitygirl8551]

Every interview with Rick the interviewers always end up seeking his … encouragement . It’s very sweet.

[@caffestudios]

Mind blowing! 🤯 Hearing this interview was my mystical experience. 🙌🏼🌟✨💎 I wish I could hug both of you. What a gem!!!!!!!!!! I was really opened to an answer for my search and then I ended up bumping into this content God know how, and then 💥🤯🎉🎆🔥OMG! I'm buying his book now. Thank you for making room for a real conversation. You guys hold so much wisdom. I'm looking forward to the next episode. Much love and gratitude for this immense share of inspiration and motivation - pure art. ❤️

[@mauibeat9189]

Rich Roll is a master of paraphrasing the speaker's intent. This is one reason I like to watch his interviews.

[@velocitygirl8551]

He’s such a beautiful soul!!

[@jaketrustin]

Fantastic interview Rich! I met you and your son in mid July at the airport in Chicago. You sat down for about 15 minutes and chatted with my wife and I and I really appreciated it. Keep going!

[@cadilaktripmusic]

Thank you guys for the perspectives that you have, from an artist standpoint sometimes you can see through the blockages of your perfect view of your art. I can see everything you were talking about and how I can just be myself. ❤

[@krazywabbit]

Thank you for allowing us to hear more of Rick speak. I listened to another conversation and had to stop as I was hearing more of the host. Well done.

[@AltevBaka]

I bet I know exactly who you’re talking about because same.

[@ryangalachiuk6578]

Huberman? Lol

[@animamundi6359]

Funny, I feel that this host talks past and over RR.

[@lydiarowe491]

Always so good to listen to Rick Ruben…giving creativity a high pedestal of being whatever it needs to be when it is produced..thank you both.❤

[@danielleceleste4791]

Duuuuude, The Roll + The Rubin = EPIC…the interview I never knew I was always waiting for-and I haven’t even listened to it yet 😌

[@vitoabruzzi8801]

THANK YOU! GREAT CONVERSATION!!

[@hvitis]

He's everywhere. I open a fridge and see this guy.

[@marcel75137]

This is one of the best RR interviews

[@billytuchscher]

Love Rick Rubins unique talent and the philosophy of "living" that he has evolved. He has brought immense to joy music fans, satisfied the angst of young rebels, and captured pop culture moments like lightning in a bottle. -- Thank you Rich for pursuing the elusive interview.

[@knowledge1556]

You Guys hit the very Perfect G Spot on the Timeline of my Life. I Am impressed and thankful for the Magic you're able to share. Energy is flowing earthly brothers and sisters. Get out of your own way and keep it coming Jah

[@joshualane1716]

Really just dropping G Spot into day-to-day conversation, huh?

[@JJBerthume]

I'd say this whole comment thread hit my g spot

[@ewmagency]

Rick is such a beautiful mind!

[@TeezyK]

I love this guy

[@AniEgoista]

Thank you both for such an amazing and soulful conversation. Your insights and perspectives are truly appreciated!

[@practice.intimacy]

I loved this interview! My biggest take away was to create for myself rather than teh audience. Thank you!

[@TimGreig]

Apparently Neil Young was fond of asking session musos to play an instrument they had no experience on. "You're the guitar player? Right, it's keyboards for you today" I could totally see Neil doing that.

[@bonosmuse1]

On my bucket list is to be able to bring my songs to Rick…he’s a legend-would mean the world to me…I could just listen to him for hours

[@valeriamoralessoto7348]

What a great conversation. Rick is really an illuminating being.

[@jordanm6432]

One of the finest conversations. Looking forward to reading the book. Thanks RR & RR!

[@monikabravoiamoptimist3959]

CREATIVITY ❤ Rick Rubin ❤❤❤ thank you -

[@robdiaz13]

Epic talk. RR is a legend.

[@22dividedby7]

RICK & ROLL

[@stacielivinthedream8510]

🤣🥳❤️‍🔥

[@joaoleitaomusic]

Amazing. Recently saw a few videos from Rick Rubin 's perspective and precious wise thoughts and actions such as his recent powerful relationship with Laird Hamilton and thought to myself: "Here's a very good one for Rich Roll's podcast". And here it is. Thank you, Universe.

[@kedbreak136]

A great interview about art and creation. It was a very nice journey. The sounds in the background were actually welcome. As I was listening to the podcast while running, it felt like I was sitting outside alongside you two having your conversation.

[@Victoria-Monique]

I wouldn't be surprised if Rick has read and is a fan of the Seth material.. The vibration & reverberation of these two voices in my body and my being, rrrrr 🪷

[@alexanderkarpov2035]

Thank you ❤

[@benjaminfargen]

Beautiful Conversation. Thank You.

[@jacklynwilliam3862]

Fantastic interview!

[@tylerbaxley789]

Love Rick Rubin! When are we going to get John Joseph on again?

[@ingawalsh7122]

Pre ordered the book on audible, can't wait!!

[@GR_BackingTracks]

"I experienced the emergence of hip-hop as 'black punk rock." Nice, Rick. I never thought of it that way until you said it.

[@susanconnelly1692]

Outstanding interview Rich!!! Rick Rubin has so much to offer the world with his approach to life. You did an excellent job bringing that out. You and your team made a work of art. 🙏

[@zacshiffer]

Amazing interview. Great insight from Rick Rubin… I love his approach with such a spirit of play and “unknowing”, very refreshing. Thank you both!

[@NatalieDadamioArt]

I live on the Fringes, too -- it was so exciting to hear him talk about FRINGES -- great conversation

[@looptimelapse]

love the singing bowl and owl sound in the background:) ..on top of the data

[@Leislady]

Numinous- Thank you. ✨

[@fayjason]

Just bought his book this morning. I look forward to it.

[@reflectionprojection]

I agree, it does spring up in groups- thx 4 articulating that

[@Hani3.14]

Listing to RR is an oxymoron because time flies but stands still . My go to whenever 😇

[@benjammin4840]

Awesome ! Loved the meditative exercise at the end

[@demondik]

Rick Rubin is a special person for sure! "Reign in Blood" made me know for sure, I am a guitar player for my own music from it! He knows how to get the deep level needed for not just a record but an awesome record!

[@naturejelisabeth]

Thank you 4 sharing :)

[@samuelhumphrey5908]

Great interview. Never too expansive even when discussing the infinite and singular. Can't wait to read this book!

[@ewajeds294]

I've watched a few of these Rubin interviews now, and this is for sure the best :)

[@Beare.]

2 great minds. Thank you. ✨

[@grippinggolfpodcast]

Great stuff, thank you for putting this together

[@roxannek162]

If I might add something to the vegans here in the comment section who are angry with Rick R: maybe he isn't bashing veganism. his experiences and beliefs tell him that veganism doesn't work for him. that's okay. that is honesty and that is life. accepting reality is life. now... Rick, you, me, all of us- we are in the middle somewhere of our life experiences and our wisdom and clarity of mind development. widening and contracting our circles of compassion. and i think when we don't at least attempt to find compassion for folks who think differently from us (ethical vegans)- we lose and the animals lose. helping animals and changing the way humans look at them in terms of food, service, clothing, experimentation, entertainment, etc, is not a sprint. and if we are not listening, we fail straight away. so i hear Rick say veganism didn't work for him. that is his truth today and i accept that and him. i feel i would be foolish not to listen, and think about it. aanndd...veganizing one person at a time is not a good strategy, i am sorry to say. so i would like to suggest finding other ways to be in service of change rather than criticizing folks like this. your hearts are huge and they hurt. how do i know this? i have been a full time community organizer for farmed animals for almost a decade (though covid and the subsequent loss of funding killed the nonprofit i worked for) and have seen things i can hardly believe are legal, let alone commonplace. i know your pain. i hope this year we can each find our brightest paths for being of service. may all beings be free from suffering. may all beings be free.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

He bashed veganism. Idk how you can try to make it into anything else...

[@jaimefazackerley]

He's definitely gone out of his way to talk about it in a negative light. His intentions may not be to cause harm but the fact that he's starting eating animals again means he's not seriously considering the victims of his choices. Anger can be a helpful emotion to help social change if used to take positive action. If you're apathetic or just accept things as they are then nothing will change. People who think differently than us are contributing to horrific atrocities and while it won't change overnight it does at times require criticizing those who are spreading hurtful ideas, beliefs that ultimately result in more bloodshed.

[@billytuchscher]

Beautifully said.

[@elisaquinzi2021]

whats absolutely key is that people who say veganism isn't for them still don't place animals on the same plane as humans...that humans can do whatever we want to them, just as we can invade countries and kill civilians for our reasons because we have the mightier military and "suvival of the fittest". those of us who are vegan for the animals can see this and become angry with the dissociation from this fact. the frustration is in the overall commonplace practice of allowing the conversation to place veganism in the category of "lifestyle choice", like choosing one's wardrobe. we who are vegan for the animals understand that it is a matter of life and death. not "live and let live". we are being asked in truth to "live and let suffer and die horribly". veganism is not at all a lifestyle choice or dietary choice. it is activism against horrific abuses. when people are blatantly racist or want to "shoot all mexicans" as certain presidents have actually said, we don't say "live and let live", or "equality just isn't for him, big deal".

[@roxannek162]

I often ask activists, “ Do you want to be right or do you want to be considered, and effective?” Criticizing people in online comment sections is not activism and is not effective. If you are really determined to make the world a better place, get strategic. Study. Think. Talk to a lot of people. This movement could use some help getting shit done. Peace.

[@ikigai42]

Great episode. Yes please do Part 2 :)

[@MeditationSoundscapes]

Thanks you for this, I am now a Rick Rubin fan :))

[@grote8324]

Damn this is great

[@Gray2012]

Love to you both - amazing to hear this

[@PatrickDelorenzi]

Really great pod, thank you

[@d.f.w.m.n8676]

Amazing podcast

[@leolauria]

Awesome!

[@sylviaharing8329]

Really love you Rickwas an outing of some issues today ,nothing to do with….kisses to you all…

[@CAB1701]

Behind the scenes in the bedroom, I could see Rick turning into a sasquash 🤣

[@gregzen7896]

amazing. background and all. kudos

[@Stereostupid]

Awesome thanks 😊 🙏

[@themindfulspace]

Love this video ❤

[@job1481]

Great Interview. Thanks. Just one note: In the End Rick says we should envision a 'desert'. This is not correct afaik. What we should envision is a 'field'. Because the status of this envisioned field (dry, green, trimmed, chaotic, even, hilly, steep...) is part of the test, afaik. So saying it is a desert, already gives this part of it away. Maybe he saw a desert the first time he made the test? Never the less. Great stuff. Thank you guys.

[@dorothymankey9238]

Loved the texture and depth of the conversation. So much wisdom shared. 💕

[@paulcihlar9997]

beautiful dialogue and as always very inspiring, just the technical side of the video from time I recognize the background noise it started to anoying me :D

[@CorentinHarbelot]

Merci

[@DEFGHST]

3:25 😂🎉 3:29

[@christinabranham7117]

Inspired.

[@johnspringer4870]

It might be a good time to pull out Willaim James' VARIETIES OF RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE and go to Lectures 16 &17 Mysticism. The Mystical Experience is the At-Oneness With The Absolute Experience which is the Love of God Experience.

[@enjoyordie]

@24:13 Wait is that an owl in the background?

[@CP-us4cs]

interviewer did not allow Rick to finish answering how he solved the problem of translating rap as a music to the general public via code, aka toys in the attic break. interviewers: let your subject ruminate... allow them to explore their answer, which provides value to them.

[@jameshamer3173]

Why is the ad about a meal planner subscription the most replayed section of the video

[@slartibartfast2452]

Based on some of Rick's other interviews. His depression came from the fact that he never, even when he was vegan, never learned to eat properly.

[@kanvaszproduction9936]

rick roll

[@kimmao9653]

U- man- being lovely, thx

[@sofar_sogud4929]

I’m 331 pages into this monumental book. I’d love to have these words tattooed on my body in invisible ink, it’s that powerful/beautiful/life changing

[@lukabunic]

cool interview , just these jump ins food interview wasn't mine,.

[@LiINammmm]

No video. Going to Hubermans

[@marykebester5459]

Let's gooooo!!!!!!

[@MimiYouyu]

Good producer.Sycophatic intro.

[@therealdavidtrotta]

Excited for this

[@DrugClassTV]

Listen to the whispers

[@danielbadovszky183]

I just got Rick Rolled

[@johnspringer4870]

It might also be a good time to review Abraham Maslow's THE FARTHER REACHES OF HUMAN NATURE and the Chapters titled THE CREATIVE ATTITUDE, A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO CREATIVITY, EMOTIONAL BLOCKS TO CREATIVITY, THE NEED FOR CREATIVE PEOPLE.