Unmodified Monotub CVG TEK: The Simplest way of Growing Mushrooms at Home, With Open Air Inoculation

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floki-man

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@g-man9684
@g-man9684 Жыл бұрын
Shoeboxes and pure coco substrate is the easiest for me.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Shoeboxes must be ideal for most people’s needs, including my own. Everything would be so much easier, more economical, less waste, still get multiple flushes. Not too mention less of a loss if contamination hits. I’ll definitely be more focused on small grows in future videos. Jar growing, Ben’s tek, reusing “single use plastic” containers, definitely more practical for the average homegrower. Not to mention lower risk on all levels. Appreciate the comment, and the wisdom. I’m sure I failed to mention this can be scaled down to any size, and that is a critical point to realize for any independent subsistence homegrower. Thank you!
@g-man9684
@g-man9684 Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man I feel like if you do the shoebox and fill it up like at least 2/3 full having the lid closer helps. Kinda like how side pins grow. Having the lid closer to the substrate and that smaller gap to lid creates good conditions. At least in my case. Mush love P.s. For those new to the shoebox method after cracking the lid to induce pinning I will leave that lid on and let the mushrooms grow up to the lid and sometimes leave the lid and let them push it up but if they are gonna big, once they hit the top I will do the dub tub technique and mist the top tub.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@@g-man9684 brilliant technique. Mush love, thanks again!
@g-man9684
@g-man9684 Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man 🙏🤙
@Lexington-Felix
@Lexington-Felix Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man I'm LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR Up And COMING VIDEOS 🍄🤍THANK YOU I CANT WAIT TO GROW I'm Just CONCERNED ABOUT SOME TYPE OF PARASITE THAT GETTING INTO EVERYTHING THEY LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HAIR, BUT I HAD TO PROVE THAT I WASN'T GOING CRAZY AND SHOW HOW THEY GROW FROM THE SIZE OF A GRANULE Of SALT AND STRETCH AND CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BUT THEY TAKE OVER EVERYTHING AND EVEN SQUEEZE THROUGH THE POLLI FILL AIR HOLES.
@bob1881
@bob1881 Жыл бұрын
7:00 "I'm also on these mushrooms, as I narrate this video- because, why not?!" Haha! Beautiful! I love it! 🙏
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@bob1881 I wondered if anyone caught that Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching! 🫡
@dimensionalbleedthrough2040
@dimensionalbleedthrough2040 10 ай бұрын
Nice!
@CornPopsDood
@CornPopsDood Жыл бұрын
Holy shit that float method was dope. Never seen that before. Hydrate & harvest in the same time.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
When I first found the tek online, had to try it. I like it a lot. The fruits come out so clean, no substrate to clean off either. Thanks for watching!
@brettlabit3841
@brettlabit3841 Жыл бұрын
“I’m currently on these mushrooms” lol get it bud. Very nice harvest
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@mills-xo3qq
@mills-xo3qq Жыл бұрын
Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. Imagine carrying heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Absolutely life changing natural medicine. I agree, and online sources seem confident decriminalization is coming any year now. Hope it bankrupts and eliminates the pharmaceutical pain/depression industry within a year. They deserve it. Thanks for sharing.
@diegolord4206
@diegolord4206 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they helped you, but legalization will never happen as they could actually help people. That would not be in the interest of the powers that be
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Disagree. Cannabis paved the way.
@diegolord4206
@diegolord4206 Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man Agree to disagree. Can't compare apples to oranges
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@@diegolord4206 you can though. They’re different but still fruits. They have characteristics that are identical. And are regulated the same way despite being different fruits. Thank you for making the comparison as easy as it gets.
@Biokemist-o3k
@Biokemist-o3k 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful basidiocarps!! very voluminous flush also. Really really awesome!!!
@bostonbutterfly4473
@bostonbutterfly4473 Жыл бұрын
Love the method, gonna give it a shot. Some advice… I know they were side pins and a bit hard to get but you’ll find all mushrooms come off a lot cleaner and easier if you twist them ‘Counterclockwise’. I learned that the hard way, my very 1st substrate was mangled and the 2nd one I twisted counter and they came off like a dream. Thanks for the video! ❤️🍄❤️
@bingewatcher2769
@bingewatcher2769 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for this toptop video!! 02:15 beautiful golden shrooms. What's strain is it? 07:30 Damn, congrats for this beautiful shrooms forest!! Is it the same strain than the first harvest we can see? Sorry for my approximate English, and maybe my misunderstanding... it is not my birth language lol
@floki-man
@floki-man 23 күн бұрын
@bingewatcher2769 thank you for watching & commenting! Your English is as good as anyone else commenting, I wouldn’t have known it’s not your native tongue if you didn’t tell me. The one that had mostly side pins, the rounder pointed caps, is Roatan Honduras. Beautiful in appearance, the effects were not my favorite at all. A bit higher anxiety trips. The mushrooms Forest is a B++ strain (probably same as B+… the supplier labels said ++). That strain is amazing. Almost calming like cannabis, very comfortable trips routinely. Great for microdosing with coffee in the morning.
@epicshoutouts4975
@epicshoutouts4975 9 ай бұрын
how many grams did you get out of that bigger harvest? that's a giant pile of mushrooms lol. would you say that's about 1 pound dry?
@floki-man
@floki-man 9 ай бұрын
It was surprising how quickly it felt like that pile grew. Honestly couldn’t tell you the harvest total, hadn’t even thought about it in a while. Now that I’ve thought about it, I do think I remember filming total weight just decided not to include it. Less commercial focused more subsistence. Can’t guarantee anything, maybe a sequel to this is due answering the unanswered questions like this, maybe other footage I didn’t include
@epicshoutouts4975
@epicshoutouts4975 9 ай бұрын
@@floki-man I am thinking about doing a 46-quart long storage container for my first grow. I am hoping mine will look like yours. I have others that will go in a 12 quart.
@SaltyJuan
@SaltyJuan Жыл бұрын
those fruits have stunning caps
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Definitely interesting, they’d probably started dropping spores by the time I did this, adding some black depth to the color. Could’ve harvested slightly earlier. Thanks for watching!
@wheremylifego3790
@wheremylifego3790 11 ай бұрын
Not started my first grow yet as wanted learn as much as i could first in as shorter time as possible lol ive watched easy over 50 videos in 2 days 😀 im 30 seconds into this one and i have to say U FLOKI ARE THE MAN 😮❤❤
@floki-man
@floki-man 11 ай бұрын
@wheremylifego3790 You are very kind for commenting, thank you. I try to keep it simple, I learned from others videos and blogs too, I realize many just want to be the best at copying some fictional standards just because it’s the way they’ve always done it because someone else always did that. I prefer to help people in need grow food and medicine as simply and efficiently as possible. Every human has the right to take care of themselves nutritionally and mentally at the lowest possible cost, especially when our governments and corporations are working their hardest to get rich fast above all else. Hope you don’t wait too long to start growing, it’s amazing to watch, and accomplish. The fruits are the least rewarding part of mycology 🫡
@wheremylifego3790
@wheremylifego3790 11 ай бұрын
@FlokiGoodman legend 🙌 thank you for taking the time to reply, very wise words....all of which taken firmly on board ❤️👊🏻thank you kind sir 😊
@SaltyJuan
@SaltyJuan Жыл бұрын
hope you're having a great day
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
You too! Thanks!
@armadillo9961
@armadillo9961 6 ай бұрын
Your side pins are glorious man
@floki-man
@floki-man 6 ай бұрын
They were in every way. Thank you.
@RNG-999
@RNG-999 8 ай бұрын
Hey, 3:18 just a tip, you want to use as cold as possible water because it tells the mycelium that it is winter, time to freeze, but then it quickly warms up and they think it is a spring thaw happening. They come back in much stronger force if you use cold or ice water while rehydrating them, then just drain it all off and let em warm up.
@floki-man
@floki-man 8 ай бұрын
I suppose you could also chill the substrate with refrigeration/freezer briefly to achieve the same thing after soaking and draining?
@cmmnsenserules4339
@cmmnsenserules4339 4 ай бұрын
That was awesome man!!!!!
@7munkee
@7munkee Жыл бұрын
I completely submerge my subs in COLD water for at least an hour after each flush. It seems to shock them into fruiting again quicker and also rehydrates them. Side pins can be minimized by lining your tote with black plastic...not to block light but as the sub shrinks, it will stick to plastic instead of leaving a gap, discouraging pins.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@7munkee Nice, I imagine cold water would be fine for this too, possibly better. Do you use unmodified tubs as well? I think the original tek suggested warm. Viscosity of water may not change that much warm vs cold. The stumps do pull in a lot of water, and it does start to sink without submerging. Absolutely agree the key to side pin prevention is preventing a gap from forming around substrate, it’s very easy to fill & pack gaps with coir/casing material as substrate shrinks. I think there’s no real need for plastic liners if you can check tubs regularly. Appreciate the ideas, I like the energy savings of using cold water vs. hot too. Money saver. Thanks!
@1ntwndrboy198
@1ntwndrboy198 Жыл бұрын
Colder water has more oxygen in it so that makes sense 👍✌️🤙
@jamie3356
@jamie3356 11 ай бұрын
A nice sharp straight razor is perfect for ANY kind of plant matter
@floki-man
@floki-man 11 ай бұрын
Not my experience on this flush density, "tomato" knife is awesomest.
@skaus2184
@skaus2184 2 ай бұрын
Looking good. What was your yield on that second tub?
@floki-man
@floki-man Ай бұрын
I'm not 100% sure I measured total weight for both. I think I filmed it a little though... Ill dig through all the extra footage one day.
@johncarter1150
@johncarter1150 Жыл бұрын
Installing a small valve at the bottom of the tub would nake water transfer easier and faster. Interesting fllood to harvest technique, thanks!
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Sure, it could work. I do wonder if a valve would hold and hide enough water/bacteria to cause contamination if you can’t clean it well. Maybe just a rubber/cork plug would be enough. Easy to use and clean. Thanks for watching, and sharing ideas! Much appreciated!
@mooseBanner
@mooseBanner Жыл бұрын
Small bread knife, it is my favorite out of all knives i own. Great for anything from cutting meat to harvesting mushies. Bread knives are serrated but with larger serrations which is great for softer materials like tomatoes.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@mooseBanner absolutely. I thought initially just super sharp smooth blade would be best, just binds up. Serrated is the magic for mushrooms. I’ve purchased 14” blade chefs bread knife for sourdough breads, might be real quick for harvests. Razor sharp
@AzazeL-s6d
@AzazeL-s6d 9 ай бұрын
What strain is the ones in the 2nd tub that didn't have the side pins?! That was a nice flush you had there brother! If my tub produces anywhere near that I'll be estatic!!
@floki-man
@floki-man 9 ай бұрын
B++, thanks for checking it out! It certainly wasn’t a perfect flush, but it was pretty sweet.
@HoodedCrow100
@HoodedCrow100 7 ай бұрын
Great video!.. I love the look of the little pointed nipple caps on the ones that side pinned in the first tub, Could you tell me what strain they were please? 🙌🏻
@floki-man
@floki-man 7 ай бұрын
@HoodedCrow100 Thank you so much for watching and commenting! That was a very cool looking shape for sure, Roatan Honduras 🇭🇳
@HoodedCrow100
@HoodedCrow100 7 ай бұрын
​@@floki-manThanks for letting me know!..Trying to track down some Roatan Honduras spores in the UK but they seem rather elusive over here, might have to try and get some shipped from abroad if I can find them. 🍄🧐
@floki-man
@floki-man 7 ай бұрын
@@HoodedCrow100 hope to be a supplier myself someday. Been some years since I purchased those spores, pretty sure it was from mushrooms dot com. Potentially 3 years ago…
@memehosis8852
@memehosis8852 Жыл бұрын
awesome video! i hope to see more content!
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Much more on the way, and always with the objective of making it as simple and affordable as possible. Spores, grains, and coir should be the only supplies you need to purchase regularly….But maybe you don’t even need to buy grains if you can sterilize use old expired leftover rice for grain spawn… so much left to explore and share. Thank you for watching, and thank you for the support.
@andyroo3022
@andyroo3022 7 ай бұрын
Lovely growing. My opinion is the side pins are where there is more moisture and light. More misting on top.
@floki-man
@floki-man 7 ай бұрын
I think testing direct solar heating during colonization kept edges warmer than core too, colonized faster than core. PS: Thank you for not being the thousandth person to say liners is the only way to grow.
@andyroo3022
@andyroo3022 7 ай бұрын
@@floki-man Just trial and error for me, I tried painting the lower 1/3 of the tub black on the outside.
@floki-man
@floki-man 2 ай бұрын
@andyroo3022 paint seems easiest for sure. I do like being able to see the whole substrate though. May see a green spot earlier, and have a better chance of saving a tub.
@justinpoliszuk9303
@justinpoliszuk9303 Жыл бұрын
Nice flush!
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ShadrikEaston
@ShadrikEaston 18 күн бұрын
You cut them rather than twist them out? is there a reason for this? thanks :)
@ShadrikEaston
@ShadrikEaston 18 күн бұрын
you just answered my question. thanks :)
@floki-man
@floki-man 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, and commenting. Primarily for simplicity. Keeps the harvest clean of substrate. But also the stumps don’t hurt, new fruits will enjoy the microclimate they create.
@ShadrikEaston
@ShadrikEaston 17 күн бұрын
@@floki-man thanks :) I'll take this to my usual myc group. they'll probably find it interesting. I'll give it a shot and see how my GT and maza's find it. thank you.
@leaflighteclighting
@leaflighteclighting Жыл бұрын
Nice full canopy! What’s the substrate recipe?
@g-man9684
@g-man9684 Жыл бұрын
it says cvg. Coco, vermiculite and gypsum. I've had plenty great flushes with pure coco coir.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
I primarily only use coco coir, mixed with about 4x coir weight. Water volume varies slightly with different coir suppliers, check field capacity as you can. Put coir in cooler box, dump measured amount of boiling water into coir (cooler box tek) add boiling water, wait overnight. Impossible to get wrong, unless your scale is off… video demonstrating this process will be on the way. I may have added some vermiculite in tubs in this video to get rid of my last bit from PF TEK days. Today, 100% coir.
@RobertAllen-d7x
@RobertAllen-d7x Жыл бұрын
Love the fact you said 100% coir these days for substrate! Surety for us lazy mycos who don't want to mix gypsum/Verm- pretty work,thank you again for sharing your well-spring of knowledge friend 🙏 Boundless Love & Light to you
@1ntwndrboy198
@1ntwndrboy198 Жыл бұрын
I put bubble wrap on top after mixing grains in subsrate to mimic leaves on forest floor. By the way the substrate will shrink because shrooms are sucking all moisture out of it.👍✌️🤙
@floki-man
@floki-man 11 ай бұрын
Nice, cool idea for sure. Agreed it will shrink, but if I’d packed it tighter in this tub it would’ve shrunk less. Probably would’ve been half the substrate thickness shown here.
@edwardmitchell7
@edwardmitchell7 Жыл бұрын
Love the floating harvest, helps with rehydrating the cake for next flush. Great video 👍
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dejaesharp
@dejaesharp 4 ай бұрын
Now for a tub with a drain plug
@floki-man
@floki-man 3 ай бұрын
No, no more tubs. Smaller is enough for subsistence.
@captainfalcon8302
@captainfalcon8302 9 ай бұрын
What kind of light are u using
@floki-man
@floki-man 9 ай бұрын
Just some simple LED strips that I attach to bottom of tub cover/lid. Links to all equipment used or recommended in description
@DustySavage469
@DustySavage469 Жыл бұрын
Interesting methods! Thank you for the great video.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting, it means a lot! Hope to improve quality of grows and videos, and maybe create new upcycling/recycling teks along the way… I bet mycelium loves old bread…
@AustinD1993
@AustinD1993 Жыл бұрын
Thank u. I was wondering if this was possible
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Thanks for checking it out, and commenting.
@billprice6458
@billprice6458 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I use poop, but no wrong answers when it comes to a nice canopy like that. I'd be real happy with that harvest.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
I hope to try poop myself sometime, seems like a great free/practically free mushroom superfood. Appreciate the support, thank you.
@Mycomania69
@Mycomania69 Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man Try black kow if your in the right area you can get 50lbs for $5! I could be wrong but I feel poo lovers like blue magnolias potency increases with manure
@PianoUniverse
@PianoUniverse 10 ай бұрын
Add a drain to the box?
@floki-man
@floki-man 10 ай бұрын
But then it wouldn’t be unmodified…you’re absolutely right. Worth a try if you like.
@tillybeewellbeeing
@tillybeewellbeeing 5 ай бұрын
AMAZING to watch
@floki-man
@floki-man 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@stackenali7059
@stackenali7059 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. What temperature do you keep them at while colonizing?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Just room temperature, 68-76F depending on winter/summer.
@stackenali7059
@stackenali7059 Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man thank you.
@stevegram9000
@stevegram9000 Жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely rolling....
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Awesome 🫡
@electrobeats759
@electrobeats759 Жыл бұрын
when the boxes are in fruiting do you open and release the air?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@electrobeats759 absolutely, check and fan a little 1-2 times a day. Mist bed fan if anything looks dry, or if substrate looks dry pour a little water down sides to kind of “bottom water” if you don’t want to get caps too wet. If once a day is all you can do, it’s pretty forgiving at fruiting.
@vazap8662
@vazap8662 Жыл бұрын
Hey, that's a very nicely shot video. I was gonna say that's a lot of stumps left behind.. am I wrong in having the idea they are quite strong in psylo? Or maybe it's just from the bruising when harvesting actually.. Interesting point on those stumps making for a perfect micro climate. Any chance you could elaborate? Something to do with a low layer of CO2 maybe? Similar to a casing?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yeah, some stuff left behind, I could’ve cut lower. But you also risk having dirty stumps to clean sub off of if you cut too low. Microclimate is as simple as: with stumps there, air is a bit more stagnant, so may have higher humidity than above the stumps. Which can encourage new pinning. Kind of like a casing layer.
@cmmnsenserules4339
@cmmnsenserules4339 2 ай бұрын
Why are his canopies all so full and level and mine grow some tall some short, here n there in the tub??? Am I doing something wrong???
@floki-man
@floki-man 2 ай бұрын
Could be as simple as uneven misting. I started using a pressure sprayer rather than normal household spray bottle.
@captainhappysarcanaadventu1587
@captainhappysarcanaadventu1587 Жыл бұрын
Lol I love that you left the hork moment when the water hit your mouth 😂😂
@captainhappysarcanaadventu1587
@captainhappysarcanaadventu1587 Жыл бұрын
At least it just mycelium water! Not gas lol I have been there.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
I try to leave the moments that make me laugh at myself most when editing. Not always sure they’ll be seen as funny by others, so I appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, and I think diesel is worse than gas for sure, so thick. Really stays with you for days
@SilverPhoenix-PlazmaMoon
@SilverPhoenix-PlazmaMoon 7 ай бұрын
So soak the cake before harvesting might get you in 100 club sooner! niiice Mr. BlueThumb has a tek where he took a couple bbq/kabob skewers and shoved them through the cake to allow the side pins to grow more after the harvest... and it worked great!
@floki-man
@floki-man 7 ай бұрын
Oh nice, thanks for the info!
@leaflighteclighting
@leaflighteclighting Жыл бұрын
Can you please advise how you do the air exchange during fruiting stage ?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Pinning, fruiting are basically the same with this tek. Check tub every 12 hours if you can, mist a little, fan a little. If it looks dry every 12 hours, mist a little more, fan the same. It’s very very forgiving too. The crack from having the lid on upside down seems to maintain a perfect humidity level for me, I think I’ve gone over 24 hours without checking once fruited, didn’t really look like they missed me at all. My ambient humidity can be as low as 10-20%, so low FAE helps a lot. Higher ambient humidity, maybe you only need to check every 24 hours. Or maybe you need to fan twice as much. A small hygrometer/humidity monitor will help remove the guess factor for you.
@jayden5692
@jayden5692 10 ай бұрын
what ratio of coir to spawn are you using in that monster crop?
@floki-man
@floki-man 10 ай бұрын
pretty low, I think I show it in the video. No more than 4 quart jars for the 650g coir. could've done more coir for sure. Im a patient grower. Keep temps low for fruiting, and your patience will be rewarded while minimizing contamination risk. increases concentration of active ingredients in harvest too. use with caution.
@jayden5692
@jayden5692 10 ай бұрын
@@floki-man thanks for your reply!
@tinkerman9434
@tinkerman9434 7 ай бұрын
I've tried cutting them but for me the stumps turns to black slime mess. I rather pull them and dunk my substrate after I pick them. I don't want my shrooms to contain anymore moisture then need be
@floki-man
@floki-man 7 ай бұрын
I’m sorry you had that experience. Sounds like you soaked too long or didn’t let it dry long enough. Don’t blame the tek for your errors.
@lazyjain
@lazyjain 10 ай бұрын
I think this method might change my life
@floki-man
@floki-man 10 ай бұрын
@lazyjain That’s what I hoped others would recognize too! Hope to test growing a tub of lions mane sometime… imagine how many meals you’d grow in just a couple months or less 😂 This TEK (original found titled “Bods TEK”)Made growing so much easier in my experience. Super low contamination risk (until after a couple flushes…if you don’t dry it enough after harvesting risk increases hard, people suggesting drain holes may also realize that would help drain excess water for days reducing contamination risks further). Also super low maintenance fruiting (zero maintenance when colonizing, unless you notice dry spots (unlikely)). Can potentially check, mist, fan as infrequently as every 24 hours (definitely check every 12 hours when possible, don’t stress if you can’t). Especially in dry climates, like lower than 30-40% humidity, this is so easy. When I tried to use shotgun fruiting chamber with PF TEK in Albuquerque New Mexico (high desert climate), misting even 7-8 times a day seemed in adequate. Only fruited at interface between cake and foil (highest humidity area). Damn I can ramble. Working background on a tv show tonight. Not much going on. Thanks for watching and commenting! Hope to share more soon, probably prioritize smaller grows unless for food mushrooms in future. Invented (as far as I know) and filmed a long “Leftovers TEK” video last year, hopefully share full video soon. Preview short video here: kzbin.infoAz39M3bbdwI?si=4fr-vDUxARmN7qrd
@cmmnsenserules4339
@cmmnsenserules4339 2 ай бұрын
Is that a Miracle Blade 🔪??!!! Its the fillet knife!!!!!!! I bought a set of those in 2003 from chef Tony infomercial, still have them!
@floki-man
@floki-man 2 ай бұрын
It definitely seemed like a tv knife, amazing for this purpose. Think it was my lady’s knife, I may have lost it along with her.
@dustinewing6767
@dustinewing6767 Жыл бұрын
Use a black liner, or liner of some sort. Color really don’t matter. But also a liner will help with the micro climate and focus energy to the top of the cake for your pin set. Just my two cents hope it helps. Wasn’t trying to insult you just trying to help. A fellow Military veteran whose hobby is myco-life for treatment of my ptsd.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know that’s standard approach. But it’s also really not necessary if the coir/substrate is well packed initially. Honestly I’m surprised there haven’t been more comments about this, usually get all the “experts” scolding me pretty quickly. Definitely not insulted, and it’s certainly a valid option. I just prefer keeping it simple, using less plastic when I can. Glad you found mycology too, it’s an amazing hobby more veterans would benefit greatly from learning. Thank you for watching & commenting 🫡
@StephenMcmonagle-dv4kf
@StephenMcmonagle-dv4kf Жыл бұрын
​@@floki-man for maximum efficiently would you guys prefer liners even though its not needed? wondering if its a waste of time, liners promoting micro climates and bigger pin yields makes alot of sense if its shooting all the co2/oxygen upwards since it has no where else to go even when the cake starts to shrink. im only interested in high yield and also do you guys see a big difference when you use perilite or not when fruiting ?
@StephenMcmonagle-dv4kf
@StephenMcmonagle-dv4kf Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man my first run my cakes shriveled alot and i got major side pin clusters on both, ill deffinitely give it a better pack next time, and someone should create an organic liner company for mushrooms lol because youre right about the plastic especially with heat introduced. yuck
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Maybe misting more frequently, or reducing fresh air exchange would help reduce shrinkage too. I think liners are a waste of time and plastic, and interesting you bring up CO2: coco coir actually sequesters/stores/absorbs CO2, which may also be why coco coir works so well in unmodified tubs. Misting and fanning every 12 hours when fruiting. Doesn’t get much easier than that.
@awesomeashley312
@awesomeashley312 Жыл бұрын
Will there be new growth from the stems??
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Just need to make sure you let it get back to lower moisture/humidity, maybe skip misting a few days or more and keep fanning. May not get another full canopy, but you can keep going till you feel you’ve grown enough and yield isn’t justifying continued maintenance, or until you see green/other contamination. The creator of the TEK claimed to get 4 or more full canopy’s, but he used more substrate and packed it tighter than I did. If you start having gaps form around substrate, between coir and tub, pack gap with coir/vermiculite/other naturally sterile substrate to reduce space for side-pins micro climate to form. Will have much more to share about the whole process as I can, demonstrating & explaining from start to finish how I did this, and what I could do better. Appreciate the question, thanks for checking this out!
@blakepauling2405
@blakepauling2405 Жыл бұрын
Not from the stems/stumps but there will be new growth
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Good point, and more clearly stated. True, I meant between the stems, they may even help make the microclimate for the next flush better, or require less water each misting. Thanks for the help!
@Tesla_USA
@Tesla_USA Жыл бұрын
I like using a bread knife to cut during harvest.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that, I should’ve tested more knives. I have a newish razor sharp 14” food service bread knife I purchased for cutting tough sourdough breads, hoping it can cut 1 canopy in 1 pass.
@bostonbutterfly4473
@bostonbutterfly4473 Жыл бұрын
@@floki-manI promise you, try twisting “counterclockwise”… they come off so easy, no harm to shrooms or sub, in my very short experience but it was a day and night difference for me. Mush luck ❤️🍄❤️!
@lighteye99
@lighteye99 Жыл бұрын
Great video. youtube recommendations worth it for once :)
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@thecatsbackyard4833
@thecatsbackyard4833 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That is side pin spaghetti. Nice technique.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
It was slightly awkward to harvest. If I’d packed the substrate in tightly, it may have prevented side pins entirely.
@jwcaldw
@jwcaldw Жыл бұрын
A good chefs knife that is properly sharpened is worlds better than a serrated knife in all situations.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
I thought so too, until I tried it on a floating substrate forest. I think blade thickness is a major factor when cutting grippy things. The tapered steel of a chefs knife binds up when you’re cutting greater depth than blade. Since full edge thicker than cutting edge.
@ErickvdK
@ErickvdK Жыл бұрын
​@@floki-manTry an opinel pocketknife, they're very thin carbon steel with no secondary bevel, so you don't get the wedging effect of a thick knife. Also easy to sharpen. I always carry one going intoo the woods looking for mushrooms.😊
@andyroo3022
@andyroo3022 7 ай бұрын
@@floki-man I was thinking. I have this thin diameter fish filleting knife. It is very sharp and flexible to get down low on those trunks.
@andyroo3022
@andyroo3022 7 ай бұрын
@@ErickvdK Fish filleting knife, long and thin and sharp.
@maple7432
@maple7432 Жыл бұрын
This is fucking beautiful dammit!! Keep it up with the hard wok
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thank you, DAMNIT!!! I’ll do my best. Thanks for watching & commenting!
@Gnarmarmilla
@Gnarmarmilla 9 ай бұрын
Amigo, you should edit this video because the comment that, "you should wait till you see the veil start to tear to harvest them," is very bad advice. See, some strains can grow up to another 4 inches after the veil tears. I have seen it. The best thing to do is to keep an eye on them and wait till the cap starts to open up a bit after it completely stops growing outward. Also, it is good to completely understand the particular mushroom strain that you are dealing with and how it grows.
@floki-man
@floki-man 9 ай бұрын
I said what I said because I wished I’d harvested a day or 2 earlier when less spores had dropped. No edits needed. You’re not wrong either. Thanks for watching
@NguLz
@NguLz Жыл бұрын
I have been trying to fruit my tub for 3 weeks and not even a pin I have pictures of my tub can someone please look at them I’ll send them and tell me what is going on
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
I don’t think anyone will be able to help from pictures alone. If the mycelium is all white and healthy, and you don’t have gnats/fruit flies around, then hopefully it’s not contaminated. Try changing your conditions if you can. Put it somewhere cooler if can. If it’s already cool, try somewhere warmer. Easier than temperature, try adjusting humidity. You can buy relatively cheap hygrometer/humidity meters almost anywhere. 70% average should typically be what you’re looking for. May help to ensure adequate lighting too, but that’s not critical for pinning. Hope this helps.
@huntingicon
@huntingicon Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very helpful.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@judyhowell7075
@judyhowell7075 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@abundantcat7448
@abundantcat7448 Жыл бұрын
Is this a reupload?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Not only that, this channel is entirely new. Built the last 4-6 months. From 0 subscribers. Dont forget to subscribe 🥴🫡 Had some issues with last one, felt I had to terminate it unfortunately. Thats why I am so excited you found it, again.
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205 9 ай бұрын
I vehemently disagree that this is the simplest method. That honor belongs to bag cultivation 100%, with the spawn to bulk and complete neglect tek till harvest method. Dunking is a breeze as well, simply add water to the bag and pour out when finished, zip-tie closed and neglect again till the next harvest. Good video, you earned a sub from this old man 😁 Btw, as far as knives go for harvesting your cake, a bread knife works wonders!
@floki-man
@floki-man 9 ай бұрын
I generally avoid buying non-reusable plastic, why I prefer jars and tubs. I’m sure the bags can probably be reused too. Just haven’t purchased any myself so far. I believe you about bread knife, I purchased a 14” professional bread knife to try and harvest in 1 pass in future. Appreciate the knowledge, and the subscribe!
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205
@WhiteBeardHashtag1205 9 ай бұрын
@@floki-man you are correct in your assumption, the bags can be reused several times. I run 16 at a time, and about 2yrs ago I ran an experiment as to whether they can be re-used, and how many times. I washed them in the sink with hot water and Dawn dish soap. It worked like a charm! I re-used all 16 for a dozen runs, after that I retired them. Im sure they could be used more, but I felt that was sufficient for my experiment. There was no rise in tam rate, and both the bags and filter patches held up.
@adonnasmith2482
@adonnasmith2482 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@britanyspears4746
@britanyspears4746 7 ай бұрын
If you use a black liner bag you won't get side pins
@floki-man
@floki-man 7 ай бұрын
False. Just means you can see them. I realize it’s common practice, I just don’t see it. I may do a tub with a liner just to prove to everyone you’ll still get side pins. Side pins taste the same as top pins.
@ItsCheechFool
@ItsCheechFool Жыл бұрын
What’s your spawn to substrate ratio
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@ItsCheechFool I used about 4 x 0.66 quart jars spawn for 1 x 650g brick coir. Could’ve probably used 2 bricks coir and same grain spawn and had similar results. Once it starts colonizing coir it can progress pretty quickly. I didn’t pack these tubs as tightly as I should have. If I had, it would’ve been pretty thin. Hence 2 brick recommendation. Can always use more or less spawn. More = faster. But prepping more jars may not be worth the time saved colonizing. Of course, If you’re in a real hurry, just fruit straight from spawn jars. It’s all very flexible, and coir is very easy to work with. Hope this helps.
@ItsCheechFool
@ItsCheechFool Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man how many flushes does that get ? That is a lot of substrate holy cow!!!
@ItsCheechFool
@ItsCheechFool Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man in botany I learned that if you don’t pack it just lightly level the soil leave it lightly and the root system will suck up the extra space. So once it actually have a root ball it becomes compact. Packing it beforehand could lead to slowed growth premature growth etc. does the same apply for mycology ?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@ItsCheechFool just saw your replies: flushes, may only get 2-3 flushes before they’re kid of sporadic, but you can keep harvesting as long as you feel it’s worth maintaining the Tub. Each flush smaller than the last of course. Mycology is quite different from plants as far as soil/substrate. Once the mycelium colonizes the substrate, it will be very possible for it to start shrinking. Packing tightly is best with coir, and you’ll get double the substrate in if you pack it, which may double yield. The substrate cake will also be stronger if packed tighter. So easier to handle/flip when harvesting if you want to look for side/bottom fruits.
@johncollins7125
@johncollins7125 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just let the hose drain into the sink?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Great question, primarily so I could reuse the water. It’s a lot of volume when you live in the desert. Our trees love harvest time. Another option: I could have just taken the tub outside on a table to water trees directly by siphon. Less stop/start & choking on water. Thanks for watching, and commenting!
@omegalolz5495
@omegalolz5495 Жыл бұрын
Great video 😊
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate the support
@kodygrorh4968
@kodygrorh4968 Жыл бұрын
You ever crack your sub in half doing it like that?
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Never. This couldn’t be more gentle. And even if it broke in 3 pieces, it wouldn’t matter. Just place them back together and they grow like before. They’ll reconnect. What’s the concern with breaking it? If cakes as small as PFtek make fruits, why not broken slabs?
@kodygrorh4968
@kodygrorh4968 Жыл бұрын
@LT.Goodman really just out of curiosity to be honest. Making it crack on purpose once you've gotten a few flushes might not be a bad idea even. If it's already pinning on the sides, why not give it more surface area? Can't hurt if you have a few tubs going to try it on one and test it side by side.
@cryptohound
@cryptohound 3 ай бұрын
Pack your edges and none of this unnecessary risk is needed
@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter
@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter 3 ай бұрын
^ This. In fact pack the whole surface of the substrate.
@floki-man
@floki-man 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I pointed this out too in the description or in response to previous comments. Nothing drives a point home like beating a dead horse. Keep it coming. Thanks for commenting.
@cheech2one5
@cheech2one5 Жыл бұрын
Side pins are from using no liner. The liner is supposed to shrink with the substrate preventing moisture on the side. The light thing is a debunked myth.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
If you fill any gaps that form with coir, you do the same thing. If you pack the inoculated substrate tighter, less shrinkage. Liners are not necessary, for me.
@brescalofrio1
@brescalofrio1 6 ай бұрын
yeah.... Im going to do 3 shoeboxes instead of 1 big monotub
@floki-man
@floki-man 6 ай бұрын
You’d be smart. More variety too. Main advantage of big tub is I can attach grow light to lid, they’re not too short. Can still just place small boxes in a big box like a grow chamber when you get to fruiting. No need for multiple small lids, faster misting and fanning all together. Easier to maintain at and between harvests. Easier to dry after soaking in smaller volumes. Do it.
@ivanborzov
@ivanborzov Жыл бұрын
Красава
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@ivanborzov Спасибо
@adhdeity
@adhdeity Жыл бұрын
I wanna know what the big deal is with side pins, why’s everyone so damn scared of ‘em?? lol 😆🤦🏽‍♂️
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@adhdeity I know right?! Like they’re not the same as the sh🍄t growing on top. Thanks for the comment!
@DustinHebert-q8z
@DustinHebert-q8z 11 ай бұрын
You said the stumps left behind from harvesting creates the perfect microclimate? I've always heard that it's bad to leave the stumps because it will cause contamination. That's about the one thing I hate about this community. There's so much contradicting information it's hard for me to really like go off of somebody's text because you're here like you say this and then turn around and hear other people say it will cost contamination and for me if I just had to get the supplies, learned the most basic concepts of cultivating mushrooms, and just took off. By the way I'm not doubting what you say I'm actually doubting everyone else because it never really made sense that a mushroom would contaminate itself. Idk great job on the b+ though that was a helluva flush. 🍄❤️
@floki-man
@floki-man 11 ай бұрын
That’s why I recommended a great book that’s a reliable reference in the description by Paul Stamets. He gives you all the research and references you could want, and helps cut through the BS. I 100% understand your frustration. I will never claim to be an expert, and I’m simply sharing my experiences. Try for yourself, contamination is easy to spot. Growing is easy and cheap, you can do it again using your old leftovers (rice, pasta, bread, etc) for grain spawn too. Keep it simple and you’ll find satisfaction quickly. Thank you for sharing. I am trying to be a kinder mycologist than those I’ve experienced online myself. Facebook groups are pointless hell. Avoid posting there anyway. More hate than help. I’ll double check I added that book in description. I may have forgotten. Thanks again!
@TheLoveLive
@TheLoveLive Жыл бұрын
If u would have put the bucket on the floor the siphon would have worked lol
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
The complications of being a solo video creator… no camera man, trying to keep things in frame. Good for a laugh, I hope. Fortunately the water didn’t taste that bad, and my gut is now fully colonized with mycelium.
@hoobaguy
@hoobaguy Жыл бұрын
​@LT.Goodman you should go #2 in your backyard. It'll act like a cow patty and you'll get more shroomies.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@@hoobaguy I’d probably just buy/find the cow #2, easier to control hydration, probably has less odor. I also have had no issues with coir, which is cheap, produces reliably without contamination, and not only has no smell, but it sequesters CO2, so it’s like having an air scrubber in your home. If you’re trying to increase concentration of active compounds in mushrooms, grow as cool temperatures as you can. Cold colonization and grows makes any substrate produce better fruits, in my experience and from what I read. Appreciate the opportunity to discuss this, hope you clean yer backyard.
@cmmnsenserules4339
@cmmnsenserules4339 16 күн бұрын
My neighbor hss a huuuge RV....always full of gas, im a professional siphoner!
@floki-man
@floki-man 16 күн бұрын
If it’s always full of gas, which tank are you siphoning from? Water? Sewer?
@leesydneyharry7958
@leesydneyharry7958 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know an Australian company to purchase psilocybin spore. I keep getting ripped off and they can’t be posted from America as the FDA will demand $300 for a stamp the Fcuk ers.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
Have you looked into purchasing spore prints? They’re paper thin dry spores. Seems like they’d be easily disguised as a letter. If no one else is doing it, I might have to.
@juliafreeborne1868
@juliafreeborne1868 5 ай бұрын
Spore prints are available here. Australia
@esporaespacial
@esporaespacial 6 ай бұрын
lots of water is unnecessary but gringos always waste water
@floki-man
@floki-man 6 ай бұрын
Not this gringo. Reuse all of it every time. Thanks for being an idiot regardless and independently from whatever race you identify as.
@necrophagus9
@necrophagus9 Жыл бұрын
You can buy an auto syphon from a brewing supply company, no more ghetto sucking on a tube getting nasty water in your mouth 😂
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
I don’t like buying stuff though.
@necrophagus9
@necrophagus9 Жыл бұрын
@@floki-man that's fair but there are many solutions to the issue. Using a large syringe to start the vacuum for example. Just trying to be helpful. Take care.
@floki-man
@floki-man Жыл бұрын
@@necrophagus9sure, it doesn’t bother me though. Free is good. Thanks for sharing.
@cryptohound
@cryptohound 3 ай бұрын
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