Harvesting Talk: When, How, and Is it Bad if They Sporulate?

[@Mycophilia]

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[@chrismoyer7778]

What would your best advice to be for adamant watering while pinning?? Mycelium on 💯cor&vic kinda got a yellowish tint to it during fruiting. I read mycelium piss and that made the most sense. What’s your take and have u had this issue??

[@Mycophilia]

@@chrismoyer7778 probably metabolites, if there’s a ton of it it’s usually an indicator of a contam. I only mist and water when needed (a mono tub or a monotub-like setup will usually not require misting when dialed in for the first flush).

[@chrismoyer7778]

@@Mycophilia that’s kinda what I was thinking. Thank you. Much appreciated. Is monotub setup

[@chrismoyer7778]

@@Mycophilia Thanks for the tip, its not all over. Think the sub is getting dry and cor is showing. Anyway another question for you boss. Have you ever grown Morel mushrooms? I inoculated 2 jars about 2 months ago and they both look beautiful with mycelium. Trying to come up with a good substrate but on the edge with so many. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. u have already taught me once so im sure u can teach me this weatherman

[@chrismoyer7778]

they are yellow morels

[@amandakimberly2046]

Sometimes it's hard to sift through the information I am needing. I've enjoyed all of this. Even information I already knew. Thanks for being knowledgeable and explaining things well! I have a new favorite!

[@timspokesmurf9246]

Agreed! 🍄 🎉

[@Mycophilia]

Thanks 😊 🍄 💜

[@miguelanderson5185]

That’s exactly what I’m saying I’m not advanced in this but I’m not beginner but so i do understand the time and effort it takes patience and just care some people think I know I’ll get a box grow some fungi and then move onto the spores but not as easy as it seams. And yea this did help loads made it easy to follow without diving through information. Also I would like to request if you can do a video going through the stages from start to finish your technique and how to use the agar too. Thank you

[@Seervan]

"Envious of the phallus" haha

[@LillianGardner0214]

A + For this reference

[@Kluqse]

@@LillianGardner0214 I'd say B+ personally

[@MrRoboto1963]

Who even knew that you aren't aloud to say the name? I mean I didn't think it was anything you'd get flagged for. Either of the two parts of that name can be said on KZbin, as far as I know, but perhaps they don't allow those words in conjunction with mycology.

[@TF-Times]

😇

[@TF-Times]

@@KluqseYou are a glowing yellow instructor Sir.

[@kitc1031]

Oh Sage! Thank you so much about your "Sporulate " info! You saved me a lot of chest pain! I have bad asthma! Thank you again, truly! 😊

[@Mycophilia]

Glad I could help! It really is something that’s not talked about much.

[@andyralph5525]

I currently have a tub of choir lovers going that I've removed trich from twice, the last time was ten days ago. I cut out the contam, soaked the edges in alcohol and put out in quarantine. It's produced over an Oz since the first contam, and has now colonized the hole where the substrate is missing and started producing pins on the edges where I removed it. It produced an Oz before contam. Crazy happens

[@veganbutcherhackepeter]

Lol. Ghetto. You can not salvage a contaminated grow. All the pins will abort. But enjoy. Pain is the best teacher. Next time pay attention to sterile procedure.

[@miguelofre]

this channel is my mushroom guide from start to finish! love your content its amazing!

[@roxysmama4969]

Looks like I'll be drying them in the bathroom instead of my bedroom. I didn't think they'd keep releasing spores. Great video to help this newbie. 👍

[@Barbie.Boo1961]

I am just colonizing my very first grow bag. YOUR EXPLANATION on things mushie are so easy for me to understand so glad I found you. TY

[@Mycophilia]

Cheers 😊

[@nattybizzle]

How has it gone? I'm just colonizing mine a week ago

[@brokeboii4103]

@@nattybizzledid it work?

[@nattybizzle]

@@brokeboii4103 yh

[@finnelkington4521]

Love these videos, thank you. Also, you're absolutely right - FAILURE IS IMPORTANT! I do a lot of gardening, and am only just getting into growing my own mushrooms, and trial and error is so important in gardening and nearly every aspect of life. Making mistakes means you learn. PS i think the frilly thing you were talking about is a ruff.

[@sazji]

The myths and just plain misinformation that get shared are amazing. It's not just the mushroom community. It gets shared and then becomes some kind of "gospel truth." Thanks for your logical and clear information!

[@uopuol]

always a treat when u upload sage 🗣🍄

[@uopuol]

loved the tangents at the end insane chatter.

[@Mycophilia]

😂

[@mehamrdio6173]

Thanks!

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you 😊

[@erinbranham4880]

Between your KZbin and you discord I have learned so much, thanks for all the good information you put out there!

[@kittypurcell]

Thank you so much for this information! I had some sporulate while out of town and I thought I'd have to dump those boxes. Thanks for the mythbusting! So much old info comes up when you google it. Experimentation and "failure": I had some uncovered grain and got contam in those boxes also while I out of town. I had read online it was okay to have some uncovered spawn. The whole time I was gone I was thinking I'm going to come home to some contaminated boxes and spores....and I did. Ahhh, experimentation. Thankfully, your videos are here to help!

[@Mycophilia]

😊 ✌️

[@antitorpiliko]

I appreciate the time you took to have this conversation with us, thanks

[@cleanpowerelectric]

Thanks you Sage. I really appreciate your vids as I’m a newbie just waiting on the first flush of my second go around after a failed first try. I absolutely agree some failure is necessary on the road to success.

[@Yourmomah03]

It's been a month and I would love to hear how your process has been since your first fail to now and what u would do differently

[@cleanpowerelectric]

@@Yourmomah03 thanks for asking. First flush is coming up now good and healthy. All I had to do was stabilize temp/moisture better and have more patience. This variety needs up to two months after casing to start producing fruit.

[@miguelanderson5185]

Bro this is well explained I get what your saying about sterile technique I went straight from injecting into a grow bag and just leaving it on top of a heat mat in a dark box it just don’t work like that. To take your time is key and not to rush because you’ll have to start again anyway. I ended up buying a sealed lab box monotub I put in the box along with everything I need keeping everything as sterile as possible just time and patience I feel is the key. Anyway your information was livery formative in such a short video great example of the different harvesting and how to cultivate spores when to cultivate. This helps loads going to check more your videos out

[@CryptoJones]

New farmer checking in. Thanks for making this video. It answered questions I didn't even know I had!

[@Mycophilia]

That’s the idea! Welcomen

[@bradblackwell5526]

Really appreciate and respect your honest and open information. I can tell that you speak from experience.

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you Brad ✌️

[@mzp57]

Thanks for this Sage--I've been hunt-and-peck harvesting my first-ever tubs and there was never enough to put in the dehydrator in one swoop because the batches were picked at different times, a few times a day, so I was sticking them in small batches in front of fans in small cardboard boxes then transferring to containers (mostly mason jars) with dry n dry packs after a couples of days in front of the fans. It worked, my mushies are cracker dry but that was time-consuming and labor-intensive--but I still love it though. Also, I think I was avoiding my dehydrator because it was one with no temp. control, so I was worried it might be too hot. I have a new one that does have temp control, so this next batch is going into the dehydrator (which dehydrating and storing is your next video, so I will be watching that one too).

[@dereksimon6965]

Thanks for for making this video! Very informative and I thought you explained the factors that allow for a good harvest really well!!!

[@Mycophilia]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the nice comment 😊

[@shaunm1983]

Thanks for these videos dude. It's great that you go into so much detail

[@Mycophilia]

Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for the sub!

[@psychedwellness77]

Great video thanks for the info! I got some nice stainless dog grooming sheers with a blade that curves to the side, they work great for a quick harvest. I felt like the twist and pull was just rough on the cake personally, but good to hear it's not as damaging as I was lead to believe...

[@greatestytcommentator]

This video came up minutes after I luckily stuck my nose in and found my very first cap had opened up! Nice to hear confirmation I picked them at the right time! They were SO tiny! I thought they would be growing for days! Certainly no Envy of the Phallus there! Oh well! cute and tasty!

[@deperivianimae43]

Really like your videos, information is laid out the way my brain works, and with lots of pictures lol

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you 😊 glad to hear that.

[@dustjunky2000]

As a newbie, your videos are like a teaching course that is invaluable. Ty for sharing your knowledge, friend.

[@Mycophilia]

Appreciate it!

[@dandy8308]

Thanks for the info and the kind heads up on spores / lungs. Real helpul info

[@thomasmorrison8933]

Yep I would agree with everything you said

[@yonmoore]

Excellent information! I shared this link with some friends.

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you! 😊

[@cavep8inter]

Excellent information, I just started my first grow and glad I found you!

[@oldboots75]

Cheers Sage 🍄❤️

[@Mycophilia]

Thanks 🙏 Zoots!

[@ettorepittaluga1099]

Thank you man, i just harvested my first flush ever and during the night they started to sporulate and i was afraid that i might compromised future flushes.

[@Mycophilia]

Glad I could help

[@johnhamburn3845]

ok so I normally do the twist and pull method cause I was told if you cut no other mushrooms will grow where you have stubs. also I seem to have a big problem with the twist and pull method i get alot of them that grow in tight clusters that are at different stages I usually have to pull them all because i damage them by twisting and pulling the ones next to them.

[@mickey7664696]

I learned more in this one video of yours than the last 20 I've watched thank you

[@johnc9931]

I always learn something from your commentary. Thanks!

[@Mycophilia]

Glad to hear it!

[@bernardcollins8650]

Thanks

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you!

[@amavity1]

Love you Sage!!!

[@Mycophilia]

💜

[@Eclyptical]

3:53 why didnt you make this a day earlier ahaha, that exact thing happened to me! Got home at 11PM last night and the veil was around the stem and I said "nah ill do it tomorrow morning". Woke up to spores all over my sub!! Luckily i noticed it before i took the lid off so I was able to take it outside before harvesting.

[@jeffsmith8065]

It doesn't affect anything

[@giancarlovarela3584]

He’s probably just worried about opening the tub inside closed doors where the spores will linger As where if you open it outside they fly away ? My guess could be wrong though

[@Akashic_Monk]

love it bro

[@Mycophilia]

Cheers!

[@eilyabrams-fi6zj]

So informative and well said, thanks for all the tips!!! One of the most helpful videos I’ve found.

[@Mycophilia]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comment :)

[@Scooter19554]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, it helps a beginner work thru some of these issues and how to.

[@youtube_acct_42]

I love your speech about failure. You would be a great dad.

[@shimono992]

I've quit smoking and still have problems with breathing. My shoeboxes are in my bedroom. Thanks for the video!

[@ohdarling6657]

I personally like to use a mask when dealing with my mushrooms, for sanitization reasons, but it is surelly very interesting to hear about how spores can be damaging for lung health! It makes a lot of sense, i already knew that mold spores were bad but never though about other kinds of fungus

[@whiteriverforest]

I appreciate the video. I’m a beginner in this and it’s an excellent explanation you gave.

[@MrPhillip2]

Thank you Sage for reminding me to wear a mask and for the tips. And the dozens of videos, it’s so nice to be able to call up the specific one that applies to my myco’s stage of development. I can’t wait to see these spores under a microscope!

[@Mycophilia]

Glad you’re enjoying the channel! 🍄💜

[@fredmeds]

Good information Sage, thank you.....now about my peanut butter problem...

[@102868samiam]

I’m new and needed this video so much! Thank you!

[@dav3bassman]

yeah, the taste.... xD thanks for the vid bro, really helpful :) I have failed with 4 batches over the past four months but now I have an uncle bens pack with substrate on top almost ready to harvest :D I almost gave up so now it feels great to have succeeded :)

[@Mycophilia]

Congrats!

[@kenbourekas420]

I’ve been doing this for about two years now I’ve had about eight separate genetics grow out and fruit for me. I’ve had about five get contaminated with Trichoderma, but in every case I have thrown away all the substrate after the first flush and just started over again with something different. I never liked the spores covering the Coco there were a few times where I let a few stragglers come up around the edges,

[@CarolynsLoveRickshaw]

Thanks for the abundance of information!

[@MushroomRon]

Love the passion keep up the good work!

[@Mycophilia]

Appreciate it!

[@stlknowswhy]

This video couldnt be more late. Just harvested tonight lol. Great info! 2nd flush incoming!

[@Eclyptical]

Harvested this morning, I feel ya man lol

[@chrismoyer7778]

Hey, anyone think the fruits get better tasting along with every flush??

[@Biokemist-o3k]

You are such an artist.....great video my friend!!

[@patrickmcglinsky1433]

Very direct and informative video. One of the most helpful I’ve found. Thank-you!

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you, glad you appreciate it 😊

[@meerkatmatt1182]

thanks for sharing your knowledge, many blessings sir

[@napeness]

Thank you Sage 🤙

[@Mycophilia]

Thanks for commenting!

[@paulgraham6353]

Elizabethan Ruff...the veil matures into a Ruff. In the past shirts often didn't have collars sewn on. That way they could wash it separately.

[@kittypurcell]

I was thinking he meant a crinoline under dress/skirt.

[@danielmay1362]

You seem to be the only guy i really trust. Thank you for the context.

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you, glad I could help!

[@end.olives]

The spores taste terrible, stopped collecting wild mushrooms because of that, they literally grow on the hundreds around here, the tea always ends up looking like a gray/black worm soup, and i think worms would probably have a better taste. Also people say that if the mushrooms sporulate on the mycelium, the mushroom understands it has completed its life cycle and later yields are smaller. Thanks for the info on spores being bad for the lungs, thats very important, afterwards i cleanned up an air purifier in my room that had almost one inch of dust collected on its filters, which was probably what was making me cought.

[@michaelsisco7825]

I am glad I watched I just harvested and I was afraid that my fruits where no good because sporulation happened thank you for the info

[@hotsparklab]

This is so fascinating!! (I just started falling into this rabbit hole) Thank you for your thoughts. 🐇

[@Mycophilia]

🐰 🍄 💜

[@celiabizien3434]

Hi! I am a newbie and accidentally harvested my mushrooms 1-2 days too late. I came home one day and my grow bag was covered in spores, as well as some of the mushroom caps. Is it still safe to consume (after using a dehydrator)?

[@chrismoyer7778]

First live chat for me

[@edwardverval]

I LOVE your euphemisms. The "one gram of shitake" and "flavonoids" were marvelous, but "Envious of the phallus" sent me. Thanks for all this work! I'll see you in r/Mycophiles ☺

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you Edward! 🙃

[@dasquid7216]

@@Mycophilia gotta stay monetized can’t get caught lacking by KZbin😂☠️

[@MycoAngelo]

Your getting more... *EDIT " FLAVANOIDS " 😂 I Love you man bahhaha

[@Deepwatr1]

Great content!

[@Mycophilia]

Thanks Sam!

[@michigannative2951]

super awesome sir, Great job explaining.

[@Mycophilia]

Cheers!

[@joana9724]

I’m so happy I watched this video it helped me a lot fr

[@dmanzawsome]

One time when younger I picked hundreds of mushrooms that I dried next to my bed with a fan and I'm pretty sure the fan blew up a lot of spores cuz my lungs felt weird for a while after that night.

[@jesushernandez5946]

Thank you for your words and experience, im on my first tub and im not sure if i should keep cutting my fruits right when the bale rips or should i let them grow bigger even if they sporulate? And will letting them sporulate affect the future growth of more fruits?

[@jakemertz2660]

Thank you for your perspective, this is valuable information to add to my growing knowledge :)

[@RawTubeTV]

Thanks for the great info, Sage!

[@ScottWConvid19]

"Envious of the phallus series." You get an A for creativity 😂

[@dylgotbyl]

Awesome !

[@Esquizojungla]

Awesomely explained. Very helpful video. Thanks a mill.

[@1neAdam12]

Haven't seen this discussed yet, but what about adding some fertilizer to the soaking cake, readying for another flush.

[@Mycophilia]

Fertilizer is nutritious, so without proper pasteurization it is a total risk. Much easier, safer and more effective to start a new tub, you’ll get much better yield for your time

[@dsgant1616]

Really well presented information and I appreciate it so much I’m commenting for the algorithm. Thanks a bunch!

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you! Much appreciated 🙏

[@johnnydoe2672]

When do you harvest if it is indeed envious of the phallus?

[@Mycophilia]

When they become soft and squishy

[@cruzmorgan9358]

Although I see what your saying, sometimes if you take a mushroom for cloning before you fully got to see it mature, it might have completely different traits then what your looking for.

[@Mycophilia]

As long as you get them before they sporulate it’s fine

[@greatestytcommentator]

I was asking about the best time to clone earlier today too! Nice video.. very concise ...and amusing.. "FLAVINOIDS" edit cracked me up!

[@Mycophilia]

Cheers! You are the greatest YT commentator!

[@Will-Max]

Great video, sage!

[@Mycophilia]

Thanks!

[@anitavanderwalt8828]

Thankyou. This was very insightful.

[@lobbyrobby]

I'm completely new to this but attempting a all in one grow in a bag. So far it's not going well but I have a few pins going so I'm running with it. My question is, as long as a mushroom is growing it's good, right? I don't want to end up with a bad mushroom and die lol.

[@Mycophilia]

Yes!

[@Mycophilia]

Spores/genetics may get mixed around on the part of the vendor or trader, but most people aren’t trading deadly species, which a lot of them wouldn’t even grow on just coir and grains even if you WERE to get them by some miracle

[@timspokesmurf9246]

Thanks for the knowledge mush love 🍄 💕

[@leeirwin6239]

Do Copelandia have a Veil that breaks? I don't see any! It's my first grow and they have very small fruits and long tall stems. When would be the best Time to harvest them? Thanks my good sir...❤

[@reecepage_11]

So should I open my injection and forget bag, and harvest them as and when they’re ready? I got a tiny one that’s ready, but the rest have only just started to grow and don’t wanna leave it in there for it to kill the rest with spores, yet don’t wanna open the bag to remove it and risk contamination of the rest

[@Mycophilia]

Spores won’t hurt the rest lol, and opening the bag has nothing to do with contamination. They grow on cow poo in the open air. They’ll be fine lol, they know what they’re doing. 99% of contam come from spawn, sterile technique and inoculant, not once spawned to bulk/fully colonized.

[@matisawi3842]

Do I have to harvest all at once, or can I harvest only big ones and wait for smaller ones to grow a little more? Thanks for any advices ;)

[@Mycophilia]

Watch the video 😊

[@chrisjr1247]

It’s been a positive night of learning! Thank you for the love of mycology!

[@Mycophilia]

Any time!

[@dktantalus2106]

Do you take all the little pins when you harvest the first flush or you leave it to grow as the second flush?

[@Mycophilia]

It’s up to you, you could pick them as they mature or you can harvest everything, pins and all.

[@Mycophilia]

I personally will let a few mature, but eventually I’ll just harvest everything as it’s less hassle.

[@dktantalus2106]

@@Mycophilia Thanks！ I saw some little pins starting more darker. I was wondering if they are good when they mature. Now I will just wait them to grow.

[@Mycophilia]

@@dktantalus2106 If they start getting darker/bluer on their own then they are aborts and will not grow anymore

[@dktantalus2106]

@@Mycophilia Thank you! now im more confident grow shrooms.

[@davids11131113]

I heard that if mushrooms drop their spores it tells the mycelium to basically ‘turn off’ so further flushes won’t be good…..I don’t know if it’s true I just go by picking before the veil breaks away.

[@Mycophilia]

It’s true to a certain extent but they will still produce fruits just fine ime

[@mysticmago7613]

Ppl seem to prefer unopened caps for visual appeal. Very spoiled consumers these days, especially with the herbal field becoming more commercial with packaging etc. Visual appeal becoming more important Thanks for heads-up on the spores n lung health. Been leaning towards varieties that rarely sporulate, sterile varieties

[@disco3112]

Please someone help me 🙏 bought grow kits golden teachers - instructions say to leave in bag?! They’re now pinning-everything I’ve watched says to spray the bags? But my instructions say no spraying or airing!! What should I do?? Thanks 🙏

[@Mycophilia]

Your instructions probably want to make it simplest to grow at the cost of optimization. I don’t know the exact kit you have, is it one of the Dutch ones with a tray inside a bag?

[@xanjuan]

Very helpful thank you

[@Mycophilia]

Glad to hear that!

[@saaimgussain]

I forgot to rehydrate my Oyster mushrooms and they dried out on the farming brick. They dont smell bad or anything they just dried out. Are they saft to eat?

[@johnp7158]

amazing video, thanks for doing it so well.

[@Mycophilia]

Thank you! 😊

[@stevewalker2912]

I have some shoebox tubs that have started flushing blob (someone on Reddit called this genetic strain of PE that) and it’s covering the the substrate with what looks like a bunch of white rocks. How is the best was to harvest these so I can soak it for a second flush?

[@Mycophilia]

Only harvest if they get marshmallow-soft to the touch. Otherwise they still have a ways to grow. When they're ready, you could pluck them like any other mushroom.

[@garlandgreene2220]

Thanks man, great information.

[@gaiagiletta2019]

Hi! Thanks for this video full of knowledges, I am doing for the first time and I am trying to do at my best, just they are start grow on the side of the box. In this case how can I do? take out the mycelium and cut them or can I leave them there? does something happen if I let them there?

[@rs-nk8cf]

Is the time when you prefer to pick it also the best time to use to make prints?

[@Mycophilia]

If you want big thick prints, let it get further along in the process until the caps are about halfway dark.

[@staypositive5718]

Hi bro I just grew my first box of gt they was growing so well and now they have just stopped and I have seen no progress in 4 days at all and they are smelling funky I’m thinking to harvest them they are only small what do you think has happened? thanks for your time