Roaming Millennial needs a safe space from vegans

[@Hannah-cd1nh]

"As someone who supposedly champions free speech, it's pretty astonishing to me how okay you are with telling people to shut up about their beliefs because it annoys you." CAN SHE GET SOME ICE FOR THAT BURN

[@livvylumloo123]

Yes! Just because you don't like what someone is saying doesn't mean they're wrong or complaining.

[@abdhenehek6742]

LilyO but you’re complaining about what she believes

[@deciasimms1797]

Omg. Every video you make are words from my mouth if I were to respond, lol. On point, as always. Which is why she chooses to make a video as apposed to debate with an educated, sensible vegan.

[@Adardidnothingwrong]

I appreciate you having empathy for people working in slaughterhouses. I got into a terrible discussion on one vegan Facebook page where these self-righteous idiots were saying things like, "I would STARVE before murdering an innocent animal" even though they probably have no idea what it's like to be hungry, let alone starve.

[@Lookatthosechimkens]

Well considering most girls who became vegan were bulimic and literally did starve to be skinny I would say you're stupid lol.

[@fayettevillain1171]

Why would you argue with those people? Sounds like a waste of time... And it's quite possible to be vegan in extreme circumstances: ie vegan on Survivor!

[@ihatemickiegee]

Turtle man Aka the turtleinatorrrr lolololol derrrr this comment HAS to be trolling. you CANNOT be serious ??? 1. coming from a person raised poor who also has had an eating disorder for 7+ years, starving by mentally-ill choice & starving because you can’t afford enough food are COMPLETELY different things 2. you really think the majority of women who become vegan are bulimic/recovering bulimics??? just because there ARE recovering bulimics who become vegan, or people who have become “vegan” out of orthorexic habits or became vegan during an eating disorder then recovered and stayed vegan, etc., does not at all mean they hold the majority of who is vegan lol. sorry but this is just an outlandish assumption 3. where did the above commenter state that the people they were talking about were girls? your comment makes no sense.

[@stay-c358]

I'm definitely not gonna starve before killing an animal. People literally eat each other when it gets to that point, let alone an animal.

[@isabelkloberdanz6329]

I don't know what I'd do. I have some stroooonng suicidal tendencies, but I've never been truly starving so I can't say I know what it would be like. It's the same logic that I think applies to the conditions animals are kept in. It might not sound that bad on the surface. I'm not that emotionally impacted by knowing about or even seeing the conditions, because I haven't been in them. People just need to be more understanding and recognize that even if someone's suffering or desperation seems minimal, it can actually be very significant. All you need to know in order to care is that the slaughterhouse workers DO suffer and are often in bad situations, that animals DO suffer, that it IS hard to come to terms with the immoral nature of your actions... If everyone on every side of this situation could be more understanding and open-minded, I bet we'd make progress a lot faster.

[@Shelbizleee]

That pro-life point had me cheering out loud!! The holes in her logic are astounding 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@danielmcknight9564]

Abortion = murder

[@danielmcknight9564]

L8IRUSI I agree with you. It's all wrong.

[@missmermade9331]

L8IRUSI Just that humans are much more intelligent than other animals... so no. None of your points are valid. Killing people: wrong! Raising animals with love and then killing them for food without causing them pain: good thing!

[@agnescoleman9556]

Miss Mermade raising with love and killing don't belong in the same sentence. What is the difference between animals and humans anyway? Intelligence? Then by that standard, killing a foetus is fine because it's intelligence is lower than any breed of livestock, right?

[@missmermade9331]

L8IRUSI You are kind of closeminded to compare a fetus to a cow or other livestock... you have to measure the potential. A full developed human (a fetus in the future) is more intelligent than livestock. If someone aborts their daughter in the womb and she would have grown up to be a doctor or president or a nobel price winner that potential is being taken away from her and the world. A cow on the other hand doesn't have that kind of potential (it's a cow, duh...). If you are not slaughtering animals in a cruel way (looking at you Islam...) they are not feeling anything when their lives are ended. There is no pain involved for the livestock.

[@EvadoCouto]

I totally respect your decision to shield your new small human from the internet but I gotta say UNNATURAL BABY IS PROBS CUTE AF

[@UnnaturalVegan]

Definitely cuter than the greasy ass bangs I'm sportin in this video goddamnit

[@MartianBlues11]

Eva do Couto I like to picture that Unnatural Baby just has the body of a baby and the face of Unnatural Vegan, glasses included 😂😂😂

[@EvadoCouto]

Unnatural Vegan hahahah wait yeah I love your hair!! Thanks for replying, made my day! congrats on the little human xo

[@EvadoCouto]

Also this is a great and very informative video, as usual, still watching. Thanks for all you do!

[@workfromhomeremote]

As if the baby would know the difference.

[@lidahall5928]

"You do you, Boo. You go for that Kale!" - this aggravated me out of all proportion for some reason. The condescension, perhaps? Also the statement that "Look, nobody cares that you're vegan!" is patently false. Clearly big business cares, especially in Australia where apparently there's the greatest uptake of veganism per capita. Also - nice abdication of responsibility there. When people fail to understand supply & demand, I don't know what to say either...

[@itsinthewayyoumove4127]

right?! She doesn't care so much so that she made a whole video about us lol

[@monkiram]

I am not vegan. Making an anti-vegan video is 100% more annoying and cringey than making a pro-vegan one or telling people you're vegan. I'm embarrassed for this girl

[@Silvia-vo6nl]

Exactly! What a pile of bollock. She states to put logic over feeling, when she is clearly upset and on the defensive side. I mean she probably would like to embrace veganism but she has no gut to face the stigma she's promoting all along.

[@TheTofuGoddess]

Bruh. This was savage. This has got to be one of your best videos. I really hope Roaming sees this!!

[@oswaldcobblepot6983]

LOL Fuck tofu!

[@ordinarypen8369]

I'd like to see a debate between Roaming Millennial and Unnatural Vegan in a livestream. It probably won't happen, though. Nowadays, debates are about "owning people" rather than learning new information. That's what audiences want to see, sadly.

[@bimbowithadegree420]

Roaming invites people she disagrees with and has civil debates and conversations with them all the time. It is well possible that she will take it

[@stephaniesantos78]

i hope she sees this because what i love about UV is that she displays the information so calmly like i can't imagine anyone watching this and getting upset about it and maybe she could even get RM to think about veganism differently. I used to be just like RM (veganism-wise.... i was never pro-life lol) and it took people like UV to explain the information better to me

[@sofia.eris.bauhaus]

"may you be slaughtered in the most humane way possible" - old meat eaters saying

[@liliacea816]

meat eaters: vegans should stop talking about being vegan! also meat eaters: I’m a proud meat eater!

[@user-rm3iy4ye2l]

"You do you, boo boo. You go for that kale!" ... Ugh 😒😨

[@VioletWaves44]

I know... I cringed so badly

[@PetiteLapinChouette]

Carbs Are Happiness I cringed so hard, I'm vegan and I FUCKING HATE KALE!

[@jalcobo]

Kale is awesome!!

[@manco828]

Jonathan Alexander it's bitter af

[@CAT-2323]

Not if she finally gives us the kale seitan recipe

[@kellietaylor2183]

Sometimes before I get frustrated, I just come here and listen to all your sense. And I laugh and I smile and I feel better again... And I hug a meat eater, happy to live along side them again instead of climbing a mountain and living alone and away from humans.

[@TheGamingBosser]

Kellie Taylor You should probably just do the latter.

[@CorinnaAtHome]

Oh goodness. I'm a pro choice vegan. she would hate me.

[@CorinnaAtHome]

meat eaters act like they aren't deficient in nutrients 😂😂😂

[@CorinnaAtHome]

And tons of meat eaters are deficient in b12. goodness gracious they should work in a pharmacy for a day lmao.

[@zain4019]

Corinna Henderson Vitamin b12 is something that ALL vegetarians and vegans should supplement themselves with. This is backed by many studies. Unless you’d like a deteriorating nervous system, take b12 supplements. Im vegetarian btw

[@monkiram]

@@CorinnaAtHome Meat eaters tend to be deficient in lots of things, but vitamin B12 is not one of them. I am a medical student. It's very easy to get enough B12 from animal sources and deficiency develops over a matter of years, so only long-time vegans tend to develop it. However, the most common cause of B12 deficiency is pernicious anemia, which is a genetic autoimmune disorder that causes people to be unable to absorb B12, regardless of diet. They need to take a specific kind of supplement that bypasses their GI tract or B12 injections.

[@CorinnaAtHome]

Momera I work in pharmacy, we hand out b-12 like it’s candy. We aren’t located in a high vegan area. My patients are all SAD eaters.

[@clacclackerson3678]

Is there any plant-based spokes-person anywhere on YT that comes close to this woman? Intelligent, informed, rational, charitable and mature! Thank you Unnatural Vegan, you are an antidote to my despair, seriously.

[@aaronverran1360]

Clac Clackerson Ask Yourself! go to his channel

[@clacclackerson3678]

Thanks for the tip. I checked out a few vids. He knows his stuff and is a good speaker but his combative, disrespectful tone puts me right off. KZbin Veganland is full of that sort of stuff, I don't think we need more. Or maybe I'm just getting old. :)

[@AmandaHoranGoBookYourself]

I'm only 8 mins in and you've already slayed her several times over.

[@Wooplot]

Everyone comment on Roaming Milenials video asking her to watch this video

[@Blake-re8do]

Biohazard BoB lol did you even watch the video

[@MartianBlues11]

Biohazard BoB Lol you sound pretty butt hurt yourself. Did you like your own comment too? 😂

[@kerinmyers2962]

Women will have to be the main ones to expose what a fake, robotic, ignorant and potentially dangerous little twit Roaming Millenial is. Conservative men love her as she is a conservative man's ideal woman-pretty, and down playing the sh*t men do to women. She probably thinks women have to submit to their husbands, too. Women have to rise up against these other women who are trying to roll back progress and women's equality. Because men aren't gonna do it.

[@SavvyMuhon]

Wooplot She did watch this video. She got super butthurt about it and said Unnatural Vegan took her points out of context. Goddamn.

[@ashleyhappenstotravel]

You know who talks more about veganism and vegan diets and nutrients and animals? Non vegans when taking to vegans. On an average week, veganism, diet, nutrients, etc... conversations are brought up or talked about by me less than 2 or 3 times. Some weeks, not at all. Yet if the fact that you're vegan comes up, everyone else all of a sudden want to go on and on about how bad it is, where do you get your X, Y, Z, how animals are meant to be eaten and how the human body is meant to eat meat. And our favorite question, "don't you miss bacon?" I feel like more non vegans talk more about veganism than vegan do. Argument... debunked.

[@emyemyemyyyy]

Raw In Progress The truest thing in the world.

[@trinketeerrine6674]

I can relate to your comment so much ! I rarely bring up the fact that I am vegan (the only time I do is when I am invited to eat at someone's place), however, because some people have noticed they just won't quit trying to instigate fights or debates over the fact that I am vegan. They just won't let me go on with my day until they've proven to me and everybody else that being vegan doesn't mean you're perfect... Or that veganism doesn't work because I choose to take supplements... And they don't just do it once, they do it every single time we meet. ^^"

[@drgnarm]

I've been in the opposite scenario...vegan commenting on my diet, unprovoked, when they don't know anything about my actual diet.

[@alchemistdreams]

I’d be interested in restaurant recommendations...

[@gejost]

Only true when vegans lecture others to become vegan. I'll critisize the sh*t out of a raw vegan diet because it really is dangerous in the long term but lots of vegan diets are perfectly fine. If I were single, I could easily become a nutritarian. I'm leery of the McDougal Diet but maybe it works

[@PunkBunny56]

I was vegetarian when a vegan casually mentioned the dairy industry to me. I was so blown away and immediately started trying to cut it from my diet until I went vegan.

[@youare5907]

TheNerdyVlogger get that almond milk:p

[@kulata]

And then you messed up your diet. I am sure you've given it up

[@garethbaus5471]

@@kulata You don't seem to have a reason to make that conclusion.

[@stephaniesantos78]

"vegans never shut up about being vegan" OKAY WELL YOU KNOW WHAT WE EAT 3+ TIMES A DAY, USUALLY WITH OTHER PEOPLE, IT FUCKING COMES UP. I used to try and keep my veganism a secret and one day someone made me a cheese and bacon omelette and i had to explian to them that i didn't eat cheese... or eggs... or meat... and they were like wtf why did you never say anything???

[@palaven4048]

There's a difference between that and trying to push your "moral superiority" of veganism on people who eat meat.

[@stephaniesantos78]

did you not watch this entire video? it's not moral superiority. yeah, people i know eat meat. i don't tell them not to nor have i ever seen a vegan do that EVER. it's amazing because all the vegans i've met are super nice yet every non-vegan i know apparently has met some asshole vegan who pushed their "beliefs" down someone's throat. if someone saying they are vegan makes you feel guilty, no offense but that's your own problem.

[@palaven4048]

Sorry but if you go through the comments of videos that eve mention vegans, they call meat eaters murderers and judge us. I know that most vegans are good people, it's just that a lot are really loud and obnoxious.

[@stephaniesantos78]

so then don't go to a vegan video?? like problem solved?

[@palaven4048]

stephanie santos Except that vegans come to our videos and berate us.

[@stephaniesantos78]

"health conscious meat eaters" aka meat eaters who eat less meat than the average American?

[@bobsmith-mv9kl]

So it's not ok for humans to kill animals to eat, but it's ok to kill animals for your dog to eat?

[@criesincryptid]

@@bobsmith-mv9kl people make arguments for vegan dogs because they are also omnivores but I'm not too knowledgeable on that subject. Cats however are carnivores and trying to feed a cat a vegan diet is abuse. It's something you have to do if you choose to own a cat, snake, frog or other carnivorous animals.

[@bobsmith-mv9kl]

@@criesincryptid It's abuse for anyone to be on a vegan diet. If your not eating meat, your body is just eating you.

[@criesincryptid]

@@bobsmith-mv9kl Um no? If you do 2 seconds of research you would see there's nothing backing up your claim. Nice grammar by the way, really sells your point.

[@gejost]

Ppl who balance their food with meat as a protein component. For a lot of people, it is excessive carbs tgat seem to harm them the most combined with excessive fats.

[@worldsofwood8809]

Holy shit... this is the level of logic that skeptic KZbinrs wish they had and could convey in their videos. Damn.

[@cobbler88]

You seriously believe this passes for logic? Roaming Millennial isn't that deep and this gal still had to reframe RM's points in a different context to even put forth very weak arguments. They seem clever to those who want to believe, but generally don't land a glove.

[@monkiram]

@@cobbler88 I think Worlds of Wood was referring to Unnatural Vegan's logic?

[@cobbler88]

@@monkiram I"m not sure we can really nail lthis down. :)

[@cobbler88]

@Theodore Bunston I don't know who first said what I'm about to butcher, but I've found that it's particularly relevant given today's society and academia more specificlly: "It's better to be a straightforward person with common sense than someone who prides himself as an intellectual. The former can sniff out things that are ridiculous. The latter can be convinced of anything as long as you provide them with a logical enough trail."

[@cobbler88]

@Theodore Bunston Wow. No wonder we're still going here. You're a thick one! The point of the paraphrase is obviously concerning the consumers of the information - not the purveyors of it. And I'm not going to connect every further dot for you. There's obviously not enough meat on the bone for me to bother continuing this conversation. You take care.

[@strega_bonnie]

Roaming Millennial should just rename her video "I don't understand how capitalism works."

[@missmermade9331]

Bonnie Rabold Since most of the things said in this video it is a conspiracy against every other industry.... so basically Roaming gets capitalism pretty well but people here don't

[@mrwalkway4740]

Pretty much all of skeptic youtube don’t get capitalism

[@gejost]

What do you mean?

[@hanzib31]

can we also talk about the fact that there are so so many meat eaters who are vitamin deficient too 😂 both my grandmothers are B12 deficient as was I before I went vegan....and now Im not. there are just as many deficiencies possible in a omniverous diet.

[@PetiteLapinChouette]

hanzib31 the only person I know with a b12 deficiency is not vegan...it's not a vegan problem- it's a human problem

[@robinlillian9471]

Many older people lose the ability to absorb B12 when they get older, even if it is in their food. Vegans can't absorb it, because it isn't there. Your contempt & lack of concern for your own Grandmothers says it all about how callous and cruel vegans are. Of course B12 deficiency symptoms include mental illness...just saying.

[@peachxtaehyung]

@@robinlillian9471 why are you even here if you dont like vegans? How is she showing no remorse for her grandmother?

[@peachxtaehyung]

@@robinlillian9471 also you realize there is b12 in alot of things like greens right?

[@LaNoireDetruit]

@@peachxtaehyung No, there really isn't. As UV also states in several videos, B12 is is produced by bacteria. They live close to the roots of some plants and in the intestines of cows and such. The B12 doesn't get *inside* the plants though, which means if you do not eat any animal products, you need to suplement B12 either through pills/drops or enough fortified vegan products.

[@mariebrassart9868]

I cringed so bad at "proud meat-eater" ahhhh

[@sacmakiz]

it's a way of confessing a meat eater's sins, I guess

[@alicer6786]

Ilove PurplePasta She's trying to be ironic because thinks all vegans are loud and proud vegans which is bs minus the proud part. I certainly don't go and scream I'm proud to be vegan and act all militant which is what she's trying to paint vegans as.

[@phoebesulistio6830]

As a person who comes from a low-income family in a third world country, I am a proud meat eater because I have reached the financial state where I can eat meat (a luxury to those of us who aren't used to eating it) and not feel like I am at risk for starvation for buying it. I don't think this was the case with RM, but that is why I am proud of the fact that I am able to eat meat.

[@sparkybish]

She’s one of the types of people who would say “but I bet you miss bacon because bacon is delicious and the best think ever” when I was eating a vegetarian diet.

[@copsuicide]

@@phoebesulistio6830 salute

[@ronanroberts9227]

Damn I normally just lurk in UV's comment sections but she was a straight savage in this video ❤👏

[@angelabordack]

You are the voice of reason! You are fresh air!

[@keisi1574]

Angela Bordack You think a fart is fresh air, too.

[@13gladius28]

So tell me, fart, why is it OK for animals to eat other animals but not OK for human [animals] to do the same, fart ?

[@yasmineflayeh1873]

@@joaovitorschell5614 Yes, exactly!!

[@user-xk6fs7em4l]

"Proud meat eater" is the same as "Straight Pride" ... it's a lack of understanding what pride is.

[@gejost]

not a misunderstanding of pride. In second case, lack of appreciation of the suffering others endure. I'm confident in my straight lifestyle that suits my innate sexual orientation with an understanding that ppl with different sexual orientations exist with lifestyles evolved to suit their innate sexual orientation. So, for example, I probably would attend a gay wedding, if I was invited. I'd buy a suitable gift, reflecting jow well I know the couple, etc, etc. Been to a gay couple's home. I played Quiz master with them. i would invite a friend who is gay to my wedding expecting them to bring their partner. first case. I eat meat. I'm OK with my eating meat. I understand ppl are vegans. I know some. I'm aware of the arguments associated with their choices.

[@YooTooLoB]

The anti-SJW circle jerk is one annoying group to tackle. I'm glad you take the time to respond to those videos and lay down the amount of fallacies those people engage in.

[@MartianBlues11]

Daphne V The ironic thing is that they are SJWs themselves. They try to censor anyone who disagrees with them by branding them as "leftists," "SJWs," "snowflakes," etc, so that they don't actually need to argue against them. They cry and throw temper tantrums and demand safe spaces against criticism. It's actually pretty frustrating because it limits discussion and free speech the exact same way that other SJWs do. The whole thing really is just one big circle jerk as you described it.

[@dope3618]

the extremes of EITHER end can be ridiculous

[@SandraFruitsYou]

Daphne V I'm not 100% sure but I thought unnatural vegan was not for the SJW/intersectional crowd as well

[@MartianBlues11]

dope Yep. I wish people could have a discussion without being ridiculous but the internet has sort of showed me how unlikely it is.

[@ganasde65]

Her own subscribers seemed to consist of a lot vegans, who were upset

[@ChinaDragonGirl]

I like how UV isn't putting veganism and vegans on a pedestal in terms of health, but explains veganism as a choice that's simply the most lucrative for the animals and this planet in the 21st century. Veganism isn't the best and natural and life-saving decision in terms of diet as how it's like to be promoted, but rather a measurement you take, that includes restriction in your diet to reduce suffering of living sentient beings. Veganism or not is really not as black and white as it's usually depicted, it's not good or evil, healthy or not. It's important to be critical and actually think, no matter which position and it always depends on the person themselves. UV helped me into turning a vegan, so you doing great Swayze :D you're doing a lot of good by spreading veganism in such a calm manner which doesn't alienate veganism but makes it into a normal choice, at least that's how it was for me.

[@sacmakiz]

I think you could be the best person on youtube to give rational, calm response to any ridiculous claim against veganism in also such a witty manner.

[@Sophie-um4vz]

being proud of meat eating is like being proud of your nationality... it is not an achievement

[@kevinpeterson188]

Ms Sophie i get what you're trying to say but it's not like you can't be proud of something that isn't necessarily an achievement lmao

[@somaliakanister6580]

Yeah you can be, but...why would you..?

[@infinit888]

Sure you can... it's just really pathetic you have nothing else to be proud of.

[@kevinpeterson188]

infinit888 luckly I'm not someone who is proud of non-achievements and/or characteristics lol

[@vitruvianprophet9032]

Dumb comment. Nothing wrong with being proud of your nationality or ethnicity. It's like being proud of your brother or sister for something they've done. If you care about people, you will be proud about what they accomplish. I care about my nationality and ethnicity, therefore I am more proud of what they accomplish over what people of other groups do.

[@pastelsunny758]

You'd think pro life would mean all life

[@MartianBlues11]

PatelSunny She's pro life as long as you don't disagree with her and as long as you aren't a non human animal 😒

[@wotmot223]

She is pro human life. Clearly, if you eat anything that once lived, you can not consider yourself pro-life, right? Comparing the intelligence/sentience of a human being to a cow, in terms of them being comparable is pretty difficult based on empirical criteria. And if all animals are sacred, why do you not advocate wild life preserves where all meat eating animals are separated from herbivores or each other? Is a hermit crab's life as valuable as that of a Gorilla? Is it more valuable than a redwood? The ethics argument is one I respect, if it is applied consistently, and is limited to the individual who chooses to live by a dietary criteria. But your above comment just leaves you open to mockery.

[@meemz-l7u]

MartianBlues what? Were you trying to say that humans don't have the capability to realize that animals are alive?

[@justdesserts7872]

Yeah including life outside of the womb too.

[@Bawbster1]

INCLUDING PLANTS? How do you know for sure that plants don't feel pain and suffer in some way that's different from our nervous system? Then compare the ratio of individual plants to animals used for food. MILLIONS TO ONE. Science has shown that plants communicate with each other in ways we never fathomed or considered previously. I say, vegetarians and vegans are the real monsters. They kill and eat millions more life forms than us meat eaters.

[@atomnous]

Wow... What an oxymoron points by her... If you know animal abuse is wrong but too lazy to change for convenience, it's better to be silent until you resolve the cognitive dissonance either by fully supporting abuse for personal pleasure or condoning veganism (regardless whether you yourself are vegan or not). Be honest about what's right and wrong regardless of your current behavior. Great video, UV!

[@LaNoireDetruit]

"Be honest about what's right and wrong regardless of your current behavior." That's very well put and sth I need to remind myself of when I am feeling like I shouldn't say anytrhing, just because I am not perfect in that regard myself yet.

[@redearth8010]

RMs bloated ego has literally made her head to big for her body. You are a real champion for the cause, great vid.

[@kaydenstuff]

Red Earth I knew I wasn't the only one who noticed that?? Like either her shoulders are way too narrow or her head is too big. Either those or it's just a really bad camera angle.

[@SeafoamKitten]

You are always so thorough and level headed in your videos. This was amazing. Best vegan toober for sure!

[@cobbler88]

And yet, she makes very few points. I'm beginning to think vegans are much more gullible than I'd given them credit for.

[@archanaravinuthala3487]

Seafoam Kitten's ASMR l

[@jules4441]

UV videos are so logical and oddly satisfying.

[@friesxnxcoke]

1. I like how she lumped all of us. I myself and not supportive in the way PETA has approached things. 2. She calls herself a "classical liberal" but in one of videos she talks about being an intern for a republic congressman. He views also lean very right.

[@Laurabeck329]

classical liberal is just an euphemism some conservatives use to try to get people to believe them

[@theautisticguitarist7560]

Classical liberal just means conservative. What they mean is that back before the parties flipped they would've been liberal.

[@illrude]

In her defense for point 2, she did say she doesn't support that republican congressman

[@illrude]

Also for point 1 she did state she wasn't talk about all vegans just the average 1

[@spircix]

Great video. Roaming Millenial's video was quite shallow and based on stereotypes of vegans.

[@jenniferyates502]

YAS Unnatural Vegan coming thru with the facts thank u

[@jenniferyates502]

Also your skin looks gorgeous!!!!

[@Wooplot]

Everyone comment on Roaming Milenials video asking her to watch this video

[@marvinmartinsYT]

Wooplot Why?

[@Bawbster1]

So... you like "facts". Great, here's a few for ya... FACT: Vegans need supplements daily to make up for what they don't get when giving up meat and diary. FACT: It has been discovered that plants communicate with each other in ways we never considered previously. FACT: The ratio of plants murdered for food compared to animals is BILLIONS TO ONE. FACT: Plants and nuts do not provide more or even close to the same amount of protein than non-vegan diet choices. FACT: Plant eating animals have longer digestive tracts that allow them to eat plants - humans don't have that luxury. FACT: Humans are naturally omnivores and function best eating a combination of animals and plants. FACT: Eating meat enlarged our brains and allowed us to evolve into the species we are today FACT: Our bodies have a harder time making essential fatty acids from plants that we get from meat. FACT: Cancer rates between Vegans and meat eaters are equal. FACT: Faux butter is very unhealthy and contain some of the worst oils to eat. FACT: A vegan diet is more expensive that a normal human diet. FACT: Not eating meat is not healthier than eating meat - vegans tend to cut other things from their diets also. FACT: Cholesterol and Saturated fats are not harmful as previously thought and are in fact essential for us. FACT: Vegan diets are NOT the only diet to reverse heart disease - only 3 very flawed studies have been done for this. FACT: The China Study was contradicted by other studies which are of a much higher methodological quality. FACT: Animal protein diet leads to health benefits including weight loss FACT: Animal protein diet leads to health benefits including improved bone health. FACT: Animal protein diet leads to health benefits including lower blood pressure. FACT: Animal protein diet leads to health benefits including reduced symptoms of diabetes. FACT: Our bodies are well adapted to meat consumption making full use of the nutrients found in meat. FACT: Unprocessed red meat isn't associated with heart disease or diabetes. FACT: Unprocessed red meat is only very weakly linked to cancer in men, but not women. FACT: Studies showing that vegans are healthier, are plagued with the healthy user bias (they don't factor other choices) FACT: Related to above, studies that control for health consciousness show no effect at all. FACT: Proper comparisons of low-carb to a low-fat vegan diet showed that the low-carb diet was much healthier. FACT: There is very little difference compared to a "typical diabetes diet" that includes animal foods to vegan diets. FACT: A vegan diet causes more "appalling" smelling farts than a diet that consists of meat. FACT: There are a total of 0 cultures that have thrived by subsisting off of Vegan/Vegetarian diets... ZERO. FACT: Vegan diets causes issues such as fatigue, inflammation problems, acne, gassy bloating, and WEIGHT GAIN. FACT: Vegan diets can increase toxicity in your body because of a lack of quality proteins consumed. FACT: A vegan diet decreases essential "digestive juices" FACT: A big danger of a vegan diet is that it takes time to see the negative effects of this eating disorder. FACT: Soy protein is very hard for the human body to digest and can actually inhibit digestion of other foods. FACT: Too many nuts are hard to break down and contain enzyme inhibitors that blocks consumption of minerals. FACT: 99% of vegans will look at these scientifically proven facts and convince themselves that each fact isn't true.

[@alanap9096]

Bawbster1 actually vegans really only need B12, which comes from bacteria, not animals. It's found in dirt and in the past when we weren't so clean and sterilizing everything and ate things right from the dirt we got it. The only way meat eaters get B12 now is if the animals you eat are eating grass and have exposure to the dirt, or are given B12 supplements if they are factory farmed and grain fed, which is most of the meat that is consumed.

[@BeliarHaHCanberra]

Dear unnatural vegan, thank you for mentioning thyroid issues. I am vegan and have Hashimoto myself. I often feel confused and to be honest a little scared because I do not know what to look for when eating vegan. Especially concerning soy, iodine and as you mentioned vitamin A. As many women do have thyroid issues (some of them do not even know) maybe making a video helping us out would be a great video idea, if you have the time. Thank you very much and greetings from Germany.

[@Polisciandfries]

BeliarHaHCanberra I'm the same! This comment is basically just an up vote! Would love some guidance in this area 👌

[@alanap9096]

BeliarHaHCanberra yeah me too! I got diagnosed and my mom said ya know you might have to start eating animals. 😥😶 no thanks.

[@myrest3334]

BeliarHaHCanberra I dont have this but it would be great idea she does a video on this so she can help you guys. I'd watch the shit out of that.

[@orphansparrow2]

My husband has MS and a myriad of autoimmune/gut/brain issues around food. He was vegan, but was advised to cut out ALL carbs/sugars (grains, beans, most fruit, and a lot of veggies) when he was diagnosed. We did a lot of research, and understood why, so he is trying his best to eat a paleo-vegan diet but has lost WAY too much weight. He's recently started eating animals a couple times a week, but it sucks. (The meat eating, and his whole diet really, plus the fact that we now cook separate meals). I'd love for UV to address this.

[@ninagoks2969]

I would enjoy watching her respond to this...

[@ldeethkelt]

"Any mastabatory emission would be deemed reckless abandonment" - Legllay Blonde Sound argument then and now

[@Peter-ft5xg]

THANK YOU... She seems to be riding the self proclaimed center/right wing youtube wave of youtubers like Dave Rubin, Steven Crowder, and Paul Joseph Watson where they criticize the opposite side of the politicals spectrums "radicals" and never looks into/criticize their own views.

[@MartianBlues11]

Peter Steele Yeah it's a trend. They claim to be "center" and then bash "leftist" by calling anyone who criticizes them a SJW, while also apologizing for climate change deniers, gay bashers, and supremacists.

[@thalassafischer5211]

MartianBlues yeah I would find her mildly annoying and equally insignificant but then I saw her white nationalist interview, and I believe she needs to be destroyed.

[@shadowbeastie]

Thalassa Fischer well you better go destroy china poland australia and japan because they are also nationalist counries with limited and strict immigration. you are dumb. unlimited immigration wont help the usa it will only lower our standard of living. if you want a lower standard of living go live in pakistan or india.

[@genesisofsound]

Lumping Paul Joseph Watson and Steven Crowder in with Dave Rubin is very incorrect. PJW and Crowder have always been conservative. Rubin used to be on Young Turks. The fact is, the left has gotten really bad with the constant identity politics and arguments that are not based in fact, just feeling. Rubin became more of a left leaning libertarian when he saw that. It's not correct to assert that he is just secretly lying about his views and is a full on conservative. You forget that Rubin supported Bernie through the presidential election. I do agree though as a host he doesn't do a very good job challenging his guests views, and he needs to have more left leaning guests on(partly this is because left wing political figures refuse his offers to come on).

[@genesisofsound]

Roaming Millenial has always marketed herself on the center right since her inception as a KZbinr. Obviously she makes terrible arguments against veganism, but there is no evidence that she has represented herself as being on a different part of the political spectrum than she actually is.

[@daniellemitchell9497]

Vitamin A is she for real? I've been tracking my nutrition in cronometer and it was just a regular day, I had 1200% of my requirement. I've now had to watch that I don't take too much! 😂

[@bobsmith-mv9kl]

I haven't watched the complete video but I'm assuming she was talking about the different types of vitamin A. Vitamin A you get from animals doesn't have to be converted while plant vitamin A does. "Plant sources contain vitamin A in the form of carotenoids which have to be converted during digestion into retinol before the body can use it. Carotenoids are the pigments that give plants their green colour and some fruits and vegetables their red or orange colour"

[@garethbaus5471]

It is virtually impossible to overdose on vitamin A by consuming precursors like beta carotene, one of the benefits of humans needing to convert beta carotene into useable vitamin A is that you pretty much convert enough of it into it's usable form to cause toxicity.

[@dombower]

Logic and knowledge bombs dropped! I suspect roaming will be pro-vegan next year.

[@haircafekevin]

Not a chance, she is way too arrogant to ever think she can be wrong about anything.

[@NekoShiiro93]

dombower doubt it, she is victimizing herself like a proper SWJ on twitter and cherrypicking really bad vegan comments to validate and push her agenda lol

[@Fafix666]

But all she said was: some vegans are assholes, and while Unnatural shows that not all of you are this way, Vegan Gains for example, proved her right - some vegans are assholes. And sure, there're assholes in every group, just that vegan assholes, aren't just assholes. They are so obnoxious and loud it's painful. I'm an asshole (or so I've heard), but I've never used somebody's way of life to shame them just to prove my moral superiority or some other made up thing. You can be 'meat eaters support murder of animals' kinda asshole, and you can be 'ALL MEAT EATERS ARE MURDERERS!" shouting asshole. Sadly, you mostly see the latter when it comes to vegan assholes.

[@Uhohlisa]

Fafix666 that’s... not even close to all she said. Lol what?

[@Fafix666]

That's exactly what she said, maybe stop reading between the lines so much, that's what insecure people do.

[@goodgirl140]

I loved Roaming Millennial in her early days when she did her toons videos. I was impressed by her level headed objective arguments. But lately she's been giving into the popular KZbin trend of being more reactionary/bashing than well formed arguments. This started way before this video. A little disappointing.

[@drencrom33]

She is making $3,730 per month in Patreon for that, so i would totally do the same tbh lol

[@BlumpkinSpiceLatte]

Same, I used to really like her videos but they started getting so cookie-cutter and then she did this. Her videos seem to be just for views and shekels at this point.

[@sadgyalsada]

I would say she is still quite the same. On her about page it says she dislikes vegans and that has been the very same since she started her channel. I've just been waiting to see when she'd clarify that remark. Now she has and I'm underwhelmed.

[@sofia.eris.bauhaus]

i see a "there are two genders" video. i bet she will give coherent definition of gender and will make a totally solid case. and she will definitely not mention chromosomes. it will be 0% feels, 200% reals, people.

[@olivia4394]

goodgirl140 I know...it's sad that people who are otherwise intelligent are so affected by cognitive dissonance that they will stoop to this ridiculousness lol

[@zombiecow1909]

you are so intelligent, glad you are on team vegan ;)

[@rachellemackay6438]

You should have conversation with Roaming! I would love to hear how both of you would approach this topic in real time.

[@dombower]

Ah cool i make an appearance at 33:00. Cool. Thanks for watching

[@tabagithiga]

Thank you for responding to Roaming Millenial's video. Her video really upset me, and your response is great. I hope she watches this and at least rethinks some of what she said.

[@jujudithjujudith]

You owned her

[@Wooplot]

Everyone comment on Roaming Milenials video asking her to watch this video

[@meemz-l7u]

Theresa Wilson why?

[@MartianBlues11]

Lunarcide Strange that you couldn't list a single "dishonest" thing UV said.

[@ashleym7105]

Lunarcide What was dishonest?

[@ashleym7105]

KekDefenceForce examples?

[@lazerwolfdiecast]

flies > human beings

[@scottanthony6137]

She calls herself a "millennial", but why would anyone willingly do that unironically? 😁

[@orangeradios]

Is she supposed to say Gen Y instead 🧐

[@jannujokunen2701]

I don't understand why diet planning is a bad thing? It's one of the best aspects of going vegan, when you actually need to take time and consider what you are eating. People seem to be proud of the fact that they don't think about what they are eating at all in 2017 when you have huge amount of easily accessible nutrition information.

[@mijikaiyoru01]

I'm subscribing, you are so chill and reasonable - many vegans act too emotional due to injustice of animal industry. We definitely need people like you in vegan movement!

[@TriggerHappy923]

"You do you boo boo."? Thinks talking down to vegans for eating kale is something to be proud of?

[@ellebee2721]

I like the bangs.

[@DarkravenDM]

I'm not vegan, but your videos are entertaining.

[@EGApocalypse]

Amediias y doe

[@TheA2214]

Same

[@Adam-xp5nm]

I'm not even a vegan and I thought Roaming's video was poor, and I tend to agree with her on most issues. It was logically inconsistent and it seemed like she was straw-manning veganism. The whole "you don't shut up about being vegan" argument is probably more common than ACTUAL vegans who don't shut up about being vegan. Roaming pretending not to understand supply and demand with regards to meat industry/meat consumers was pretty cringy, too. Overall, I just don't see how it's useful or productive to bash veganism as a whole, hoping the trend dies off soon; this kind of passive-aggressively hostile approach just inhibits actual discussion.

[@TomKilworth]

7:20 - I quite like the anti-SJW type channels, but whenever they get to ethics they expose a huge double standard in their reasoning. They berate those who use virtue signalling, while being blatantly guilty of it themselves. They make a strong case against post-modern moral and cultural relativism when it comes to abortion or certain religious practices, but throw that value out the window if the reasoning leads them to a place they find inconvenient. It's a shame. The movement could be so much better

[@AndYouWillBeWithMe]

Can you elaborate? I'm balls deep into the anti-SJW community and I don't want to be stuck in an echo chamber

[@blackbeanburger3357]

her response to this was as follows: she took everything i said out of context lol

[@MultiCappie]

This is the third video of yours I've watched, and wow, just awesomeness abounding. For me, entirely aside from the fact I'm also vegan, I admire your logical consistency and clear delivery from solid fact and philosophy. You're a shining light in this darker era.

[@kerinmyers2962]

Roaming Millenial is just being a conservative. The right wingers tend to operate on two emotions -anger and fear. The fight or flight response is how they react to ANYTHING new. Or any person who isn't just like they are. They also think rabid, screaming feminists are around every corner, too.

[@mfentruck1]

Kerin Myers spot on

[@jcruit6057]

I once did a study with 200 vampire participants (n = 200)...it was a mixed methods design but mostly longitudinal so I followed them around for several years. The findings suggest that although half of the vamps did choose to take the blood pill, the other half preferred the fang method over the pill. The implications of these findings could suggest that only half of vamps are capable of feeling a high level of empathy.

[@dvnxcv]

Around 11:30 I starting fist pumping in the air because this was fucking awesome. Well done.

[@TheLexiJess]

I LOVE how calm you are. You get your point through SO WELL. All of us vegans should be like you.

[@jackrussel999]

I think a bit of her feelings are unconcious resentment. I was jealous of one of my friends who went vegan when I was working toward it, and it bothered me a lot. it was so easy for her, and I wish I could do that because I was mostly aware at the time that eating animal products was wrong, but I didn't have the self-control at the time because I wasn't as educated on all of the real issues with it. Once I learned more about it, it put me off animal products and I felt much better emotionally when leaving them out of my life. She should try going vegan for a little while.

[@speshulgay]

Thank you so much for making this response ! It's a shame. I used to like roaming millennial but then she makes this dumb video, I can't see her the same way. It's so bad. I thought she was smarter.

[@elveganocordobes6708]

Nicely done Swayze, you own this shit

[@grace-ellenk5879]

YES GIRL! I was just going to request this!

[@AishaPonders]

Extremely well explained - I hope RM will watch!

[@Sofabar]

Thank you for this video! Her video was pointless.

[@ala4935]

her points weren't even sound; the video was all around just sloppy, lazy, and embarrassing.

[@Kornknealious]

ala because UV re edited roamings bodies. taking points out of context..

[@ala4935]

Thomas Korn what

[@esztiszep6334]

I can't wait to see this! Every time one of my favorite youtubers criticizes veganism - mainly because they have only stumbled upon the Sorsha/Freelee types - and disregard it as irrational, annoying and culty, I think in frustration "You _gotta_ look up Unnatural Vegan." :D Down to earth, rational, articulate vegans need to be represented more on the internet.

[@LouisianaCityboi]

I knew this video was coming, thank you Unnatural Vegan.

[@AgnesMare]

Does she mean she's a libertarian by saying she's a classical liberal? That's how we use the expression where I live. And she says she likes free markets. However... that just makes the part about meat eaters not being responsible for the animals suffering stupid. Just like you said, UV, meat eaters create a demand and are therefore responsible. But maybe she just likes free markets when it suits her 🙂 And this is coming from a libertarian vegetarian, trying to convert to vegan.

[@TheKittyTrix]

Standard 'I'm going to attempt to make myself look interesting and intelligent by arguing against veganism'. I for one appreciated the bitchy smugness 👍 I also like that you admit your past failings, which a lot more of us need to do!

[@AV57]

Quite a good video, UV. I've been critical of you in the past and avoided your channel for quite some time, but I must admit that this response was spot-on. Perhaps I need to give your channel another chance.

[@angela_somanythings5670]

AV 57 -that's what happened with me. Her subtle attitude annoyed me, but now I like some of these vids that came out last year when i took time off her channel!! I forgive the clash of personality when she puts out good content that is not accidentally Anti-vegan ; )

[@cleoh666]

Damn, roaming millennial is just regurgitating so many common and superficial. That girl needs to sit down and think about the reality of the meat, milk and egg industries.

[@WeFoundAtlantis]

I found your channel recently and I love it. I’ve been eating less meat the past year because the thought of it had been repulsing me, but I think I’ve realized now that repulsion is stemming from my own subconscious guilt of eating animals. I don’t want to be part of it anymore. I used to be a “proud meat eater”, I was a hypocrite and claimed to love animals while still living with the mindset that “Well... we just NEED meat. That’s just the way it is.” It’s taken me too many years but I finally, truly love animals more than I love myself (my tastebuds).

[@PayneMaximus]

I liked Roaming Millenial, but after that video I've almost completely lost the respect I had for her. She proved that she's as much a hypocrite as the SJWs she criticizes.

[@Adardidnothingwrong]

Completely unrelated, but you have the prettiest eyes on youtube! :)

[@CxStAUb]

"well you're cuter than both of them... so theres that." -UV lmfao

[@zeratulrus142]

That ending was perfect.

[@madik4255]

Your restraint is commendable.

[@iluneaudio5922]

you can get vitamin d from fortified orange juice, too. one cup of it is 25% of your daily value and i usually have 1-2 cups for breakfast since im not too hungry in the morning. its not a huge amount but it helps me stop stressing that i dont have any vitamin d. the rest i get outside when i go on a walk everyday

[@daniellebunnell7721]

I was just watching that video and hoping you would do a response!!

[@soleil1953]

I used to like RM, but this video and a few others she made generalize people way too much. I find that ironic for someone who bashes SJWs for generalizing white people.

[@Pietcold]

Came for the facts stayed for the sas!

[@xINF4MOUSx97]

Regarding what you said about pride, being proud of something isn't always about accomplishment. People can use the word "pride" differently. In RM's case, I think she means that she's confident in the fact that she's a meat-eater, that she has no qualms about it, and will proudly proclaim it to anyone. This is the same kind of pride that people can have in their heritage, religion, culture, sexuality, and so on. These people aren't afraid of where/how they were born, the beliefs they hold, the history they have, so they have pride in that sense. You can argue that people shouldn't have pride in those sorts of things, and should be proud about personal achievement, but many people view it differently.

[@thejosh51720]

This video raised a lot of intelligent points that I really appreciated. I do have to say from my standpoint, regarding abortion, is that I really don't think there's any excuses to have an abortion. I feel like if you aren't prepared to have a child you shouldn't have reproductive sex. I know there's a bunch of scientific points to back up non sentience of fetuses but I can't bring myself no matter how hard I try to feel comfortable with abortion. Every time I hear pro-choice ideas I always end up thinking, Thank God you weren't aborted so you can have these intellectual thoughts. idk.

[@skatingsarah1996]

The title alone absolutely drags her 😂

[@familyguy237whip]

Off topic but I love your hair! I like seeing your bangs as the focus! It's cute 😊

[@Hayley495]

I think she's still trying to find her legs in the anti-sjw community and shitting on veganism is a good way to help her find her place there. I used to really like the anti-sjw/skeptic community on KZbin but everything they say is getting pretty redundant now.

[@aaronverran1360]

Hayley Croke true. shits old.

[@angela_somanythings5670]

It's not them that's getting old... It's the CRAZY things happening in the world that are getting Redundant.. ; D

[@u-kneeque]

Thank you for this video.

[@SandraFruitsYou]

Nailed it!

[@thelazyeyedforest8963]

Roaming Millenial will debate with some like Vegan Gains but she won't ever debate you be a use you actually make good points.

[@tinman1955]

I need a safe space from people who need a safe space.

[@tamitorossian7285]

And this is why I love your channel.

[@chumpyonion]

Can you supplement too much? If I don't know whether I get all nutrients, I'd take a multi... but can that cause harm? (New to veganism...)

[@Lolita92310]

I whole heartedly disagree with her first point. All the vegans I know don't actually even mention their veganism unless specifically asked about it (ie during meal times, or shopping etc) Its only because she probs only lives on social media where most vegans are dumb af and give their opinion without actually being asked. Of course if someone asks why you're vegan, you are going to push the vegan agenda on them! If by any chance this conversation you are having with them can educate or make a lasting impression on them, then why not ? but hey, we are in the second stage of truth, where people are violently opposing it. Can wait to be in 50 years time.

[@makesandskates]

Do you have a b12 video? I usually have cereal with soy/almond milk almost daily to get my daily b12, but are there other sources/recommendations to get b12?

[@MartianBlues11]

"Assault the Anaconda" would've been a good one 😂😂😂

[@jampsonn1826]

Swayze, do you have any videos on carrageenan and how some people say it causes gastrointestinal problems? It's found in a lot of store-bought non-dairy items, so I was just wondering your thoughts.