Can the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict be Solved? | History of Israel Explained | Unpacked

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This week, we’re asking a simple question - without a simple answer - why not end decades of fighting by creating a Palestinian state right alongside Israel?
The two-state solution might seem like a modern proposal, but over the years there have been plenty of attempts to establish an Arab state alongside a Jewish one.
In fact, there have been six recognizable attempts to establish a Palestinian state, that date back to before the War of Independence in 1948.
So, why isn’t there a State of Palestine?
Like so many things, it all depends who you ask, with both sides blaming each other for the current circumstances...
Join us as we get to grips with this complicated situation, which seems to have no solution in sight.
00:00 Intro
00:59 Opportunity #1: The 1937 Peel Commission Plan
02:56 Opportunity #2 The 1947 UN Resolution 181
05:34 Opportunity #3: The 1949 Armistice
06:55 Opportunity #4: The 1993 Oslo Accords
09:28 Opportunity #5: The 2000 Camp David Summit
11:58 Opportunity #6: The 2008 Olmert and Abbas Peace Talks
12:56 Complexity of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
13:48 Shrinking the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
14:40 Outro
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[@9and12wholepizzas]

Fat respect for not disabling comments, there needs to be more discussion on this

[@UNPACKED]

That is a main reason we don't disable comments. We want people to discuss and debate (respectfully). You should see some if the comments we have to filter out... Yeesh.

[@9and12wholepizzas]

@@UNPACKED if u are filtering comments thats just as bad as disabling the whole section, youtube will remove them automatically if they are against TOS. Who are you to say what's acceptable to say?

[@electronbeing5473]

@@9and12wholepizzas its their channel fuckwit

[@9and12wholepizzas]

they didn't disable comment dumbfuck, so I can say what I want

[@UNPACKED]

We aren't filtering, these are ones that KZbin catches. Mostly they are ones that include blatant hate speech (both pro and anti Jews/Israel/Arabs/Muslims) as well as ones that include [often excessive] profanity. Though the filter also catches just plain spam, like people trying to sell things or actual jibberish comments meant to spam the comment section. Also, if we leave hateful comments up we potentially open ourselves up for getting a community strike from KZbin. If you think that most channels have zero moderation in the comment section - automated or otherwise, you'll be surprised to hear that most do. Especially the automated tools KZbin provides, and is what we mostly rely on.

[@jason4275]

*Here we go, because we all know, The comment section is going to be far more interesting than the video.*

[@Joe-pb3bm]

So often true!

[@yiehnewtamiru7324]

Got to love the first amendment

[@limalima7556]

. To my brothers and sisters in Israel and the entire Arabic world I am an Egyptian and i love the Jewish people and the Arabic people Enough of bloodshed Enough of hate Enough of who is right and who is wrong Enough of who owns this land Please no more tears No more fighting No more boundaries No more countries You are my brothers and my sisters there is no land between us no boundaries no wars just beautiful love peace and tranquility To all the Jewish people i feel your pain i know how much suffering the Jewish people endured just simply because of hate i see your pain i feel it so deep in my heart and every time I listen to the beautiful national anthem of Israel- I deeply feel the pain the beautiful Jewish people endured all throughout the years -now let me open my arms with pure love pure peace -love is all we need it’s easy just pure love and with the power of love we as a people both Jewish arabs will live in harmony peace and tranquility-no more tears from any Jewish mother or Arabic mother no more sadness please and please lets give love a chance lets hold hands together and say it loud and clear love finally have the final say - ------------------------------------ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that." MARTEN LUTHER KING-

[@lavinissensonthecommenter4197]

👍

[@crazymelomanka]

Amen to that. I know that normal people just want to live in peace and harmony. And one of the most beautiful things is to share our cultures and traditions with each other. I lived in the States and had the opportunity to meet and become friends with people from other parts of the world. I will never forget this experience. Peace to all! ❤

[@danieltakawi9919]

I believe that there are people on both sides who would accept a two-state solution, or come up with a better solution. But at the end of the day as long as extremists exist on both sides to derail peace in their chase of their own all or nothing goals and ambitions, peace will never be possible. In conclusion, people on both sides will continue to die and suffer because extremists on both sides take up an all or nothing attitude. It is perhaps the saddest situation of the 20th and 21st centuries.

[@jayander7705]

This is a nonsense statement you make.

[@nadavstein4471]

@@jayander7705 why? Where was he wrong?

[@eltondelcid3672]

Mohammedans don't want peace, they don't want a Jewish state to exist, that is the problem.

[@nahaine2476]

It's a nuclear armed conflict now. There's no two state solution without inducing Armageddon

[@apollopham3256]

@@nadavstein4471 yes why?

[@colinjones4686]

Dude looks like baker mayfield

[@UNPACKED]

This isn't the first time Jacob has heard that!

[@praisethesun8494]

We can all agree on one thing....it was Britain's fault

[@lukerussell9623]

And The Arabic countries as well especially Jordan and Egypt. Israelis and Palestinians were trying to turn it into a 2 state solution from the start around 1948. Jordan and Egypt didn’t want a 2 state solution because for that to happen they’d have to recognize Israel as a country, and they mostly wanted Palestine to be incorporated into their own territory. Hence why Jordan annexed The West Bank. (Believe this occurred in the 70s but I could be wrong. Did indeed happen though)

[@lukerussell9623]

praise the sun to put the blame solely on England is too simplistic, but I do agree the Israel and Palestine were both pawns by bigger powers.

[@ehs1452]

No it wasn't.

[@Abdu_1306]

Yup

[@Abdu_1306]

Palestine was taken away from them, Jewish people say they don’t need a state but Britain insisted, and no one can say no to their master

[@RonDovik]

Israel’s independence war had begun on November 30th 1947, with the Arabs of Israel attacking an Israeli bus, killing 21 innocent people...

[@TheGamingAlong]

That's not the whole story...

[@samer.a]

dont steal land

[@matankniaz-diamond5493]

@@samer.a so your ok killing woman and children and innocent people

[@samer.a]

@@matankniaz-diamond5493 when did i say that ?israel does even worse and we just want to protect ourselves and take back whats ours

[@matankniaz-diamond5493]

@@samer.a no you didn't objectly say that but now you have the opportunity say I condemn Palistinians killing innocent Israeli civlians which is terrorism

[@jjquinn2004]

Just thought I'd say how well this was presented. I've lived, worked, and traveled throughout the Arab world for 25 years and worked with a lot of Palestinians. I've also visited Israel several times. Between all of that, as well as having an extensive library on the topic, I can say that you did well to explain a very complicated situation in 15 minutes. I have my opinions as to the likelihood of a solution to the problem, but I'll keep them to myself so as not to attract the trolls and haters. Shalom / شكرآ

[@michaelsmullen9891]

@jjquinn2004 I also think he did an excellent job of describing the conflict through it's various stages. Thankyou for not feeding the trolls and haters!

[@JohnDoe-kg7gl]

Excellent summary. Factual and brief. Thx👍

[@johnr7279]

I have watched this issue rage by entire life from the US. So, I've never lived in Israel but have lived in the region once for about 18 months. I think the issue can be solved but this would involve compromises from each side that maybe no one is willing to make or has been so far. I think the Arab nations were crazy to reject the partition plan in the first place but, be that as it may, things turned out the way they have for many reasons. This reminds me of may issues in the US where we only have two major political parties which means that compromise, while always possible, is a bit harder to actually arrive at.

[@DanielK1213th]

Israel had literally took over half of Egypt and gave it back during the war and gave West Bank and Gaza to the Arab residents ("Palestinians") after the war. Israel wanted to give the land in exchange for peace from the Arabs. The Arabs have betrayed Israel's trust over and over again over the decades and still raging about eliminating Israel off the map. Israel has tried virtually every method imaginable to live in peace with the Arabs. The Arabs refused and will still refuse even if they have 99% of the land. They will still try to kill Israel. If Israel gives in to Arabs' demands, the Arabs would use that as an advantage to attack Israel. It has been proven over and over again. People like you need to study the history and stop trying to tell Israel what to do or what needs to happen. Israel already knows what needs to happen through years of trial and error. The Arabs simply want to destroy Israel.

[@brotherhood3800]

@@DanielK1213th nice bullshit, free Palestine from your terrorisme, you'll see what happens in the afterlifr

[@WaveRider1989]

@@brotherhood3800 maybe Palestinians should stop being so overconfident. I feel bad for the people who have been betrayed by Arab nations but you will not defeat Israel to even capture 1 acre of land, therefore take what you get im sorry.

[@jayander7705]

With surrounding nations destroyed economically and all other ways, offering CASH to the poorest people on earth (Palestinians), in return they move from the country, I’d guess at least, at least, 35% or more Palestinian people would agree and also be very happy and grateful to Israel.

[@toade1583]

@@DanielK1213th I agree with you, but come on, the Sinai penninsula is nowhere near half of Egypt's total land area.

[@vinfacts11]

By looking at the what's going on with the failures of peace talks, it seems like the problem is the leadership. Why not solve this issue by a referendum?

[@sophiao.5189]

Then what would the next step be? I 100% support your idea, but lets say we/they vote for a new leader... then what? What is your solution?

[@vinfacts11]

@@sophiao.5189 perhaps just let the palestinian people vote on that issue

[@sophiao.5189]

but what would they be voting for?

[@GrapeCheckerBoard]

Neither Palestinian governments are democracies. They haven’t held elections since taking power. President Abbas is notoriously corrupt, and Hamas crushes dissent with force.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@sophiao.5189 "but what would they be voting for?" The time for palestinians voting on things is effectively over I think. Its time for the issue to be settled once and for all. That means all the supposedly 'occupied territories' of West Bank, Gaza Strip, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights going to Israel, and any palestinian arabs who dont wish to live in Israel can be assisted to leave, the rest that remain can be full Israeli citizens like the other ~2 million or so that already have that status. This means assisting those people by paying for safe passage and having accommodation and infrastructure available in Jordan etc where they can get on with their lives. This would be better than what most jews had when they moved to israel, as they were usually limited to 2 suitcases and had to leave all their property behind (or it was confiscated). This would mean and end to this conflict, a conflict that perhaps made some sense back in the 1940s and 1950s, but by now is just stale and pointless.

[@jake_a.lien_]

In every negotiation towards peace (Peel, UN Partition Plan, etc.), Israel is always open & it's always the Palestinian LEADERSHIP that screws it up (I'm emphasizing the leadership more so than the people because there are Palestinians who want peace). The Palestinian leadership has an "all or nothing" mentality that has got to go. Israel isn't going to roll over, and the Palestinian leadership needs to accept that if they want peace. (And the Palestinians must accept the fact that Israel is a legitimate state. There is only 1 Jewish country & it's Israel which is why it is so important.) Israel isn't perfect & can DEFINITELY be improved [even Israelis criticize Israel constantly], but it seems clear that the Palestinian leadership refuses to make peace, and that's one of if not THE biggest obstacle. NOTE: Some of this info is paraphrased from a book written by a MUSLIM author called "The Jew is Not My Enemy." (It's a great book so far, but chapter 4 is dumb IMO).

[@ORDENSSTAAT_]

the offer Israel gave the PLO and Palestinian Authority included Israel retaining their Military presence, Israel retaining settlements, Palestinians not being able to build more infastructure overcrowding the already overcrowded camps Palestinians live in, no airports, no Military eventually leading to the rise of Militias, ect... Please do your own research.

[@helenalovelock1030]

Exactly. There are loads of Arab and Islamic states with so much land.

[@deannatheos4471]

I lived there 14 months I am a gentile and every Arab I spoke with said they hated the jews. And the Jews always said I hope for a position solution and they were always kind to me God bless them.

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

Im a gentile too, and where I live i see many protests for palestine,depicting Israel as the evil. They do not say it outlout but they wish the Israelis were killed. An advice, never tell a muslim friend that you have a Jewish friend, there are exceptions but the average muslim hate Israel witg passion, especially muslim arabs

[@deannatheos4471]

@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 Thank you and I wish you a good life and a good evening.

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

@@deannatheos4471 welcome sir :)

[@Scorched_moths]

Shut up you never left your basement friend if you had you would know they hate the Israeli government for apartheid and discrimination not the actual Jewish civilians

[@dissidentart5603]

You're gelling me this is not Baker Mayfield?

[@rebeccafriedman4222]

this is a really helpful video, thank you very much

[@AbdulTheV1ogger]

most jews are racist

[@evankatz2431]

One of the best explanations I've ever seen. I live in Jerusalem. I can see the Mosque from my house.and deal with oppression on Palestinians and terror against the Israelis.

[@stamezemishu1560]

Good video!

[@0average_enjoyer044]

can y’all rename this channel to something that makes it clear that its history from an israeli perspective

[@bebeezra]

Haha after 30 sec it's pretty clear whose history & perspective is being sold **cough cough** I mean told.

[@bebeezra]

@Rick K "How about I be happy" about a channel that paints a narrative that land theft & displacement is totally cool.. Haha sure, ok.

[@bebeezra]

@Rick K Keep slurping that kool-aid...you couldn't sound more jingoistic.

[@bebeezra]

@Rick K No, not really. I'm not even Arab. I just sound like the majority of the internet-connected world who finally has access to the historical accounts of what *actually happened,* instead of being spoonfed the manufactured narratives of 20th century propagandists and disinformation Puppet Masters. ...you should consider snipping the puppet strings connecting you to your ideology, it's quite liberating friend. Good luck.

[@abdoulaye560]

@@bebeezra lol this video poppies up for me as a paid add Israel is America's little brother one of the richest countries in the middle East already they are actively expanding their land on a constant basis. I'm not Arab either but the bottom line is the life of this world is meaningless to the Grand scheme of things we all come and go. We will all have to answer for what we use to Do. It's pointless to argue with people on the internet brother it's a waste fo your time

[@alejandromacias7609]

Here's a radical alternative solution. There should be both an Israeli and Palestinian bi-govnt buildings within a one state with two corresponding flags. The Palestinians can legislate their own affairs of their communities at their own parliamentary building. And the Jews in their Kenesset. Two parallel govn'ts but one state recognized as both Israel and Palestine on the same land. I can dream at least.

[@user-mc3mk1ue1h]

The question is who has the military control. Israel unilaterally gave Gaza Strip to Palestinians ceding any control, that quickly resulted in the area being overrun by Hamas which to this day regularly sends rockets and plans terrorist attacks against Israel. If such thing happens with West Bank that could paralyze Israel due to WB geography and it will be impossible to contain (not counting possible Israeli casualties). So Israel will never cede military control of WB. Israel tried keeping more open borders between Palestinian enclaves, but after Second Intifada it became clear that without those checkpoints there Palestinians who are OK with starting a bloody terrorist war against Israel. Thus your plan basically ends up in a situation where Israel and Palestine are now. Some areas are run by Palestinians alone (like Ramallah or Bethlehem), but Israel maintains military control over region with checkpoints between Palestinian enclaves.

[@sajithasajith3544]

Could someone please tell me what newspaper clippings they are using

[@shainazion4073]

It looks like Canadian papers.

[@TheFuzzyKinz]

Where can I find sources on this. I want to be able to debate the issue

[@UNPACKED]

On the conflict in general, or on the negotions mentioned in this video specifically?

[@UNPACKED]

No one claims Palestine doesn't exist, it was indeed the name of the region. It just isn't the name of an independent country. Regardless, Britannica can definitely be a good place to start.

Unpacked “No one” says that? That’s a stretch. All anyone needs to do is read the pro-Israel comments here. Quit lying.

[@Wickedonezz]

@ You know I could just say the same thing you did but pro-jewish

Wicked Onezz NO, you couldn’t. I’m referencing a state and political agenda, NOT Jews. And countless Jews side with me on this. Go look up JVP (Jewish Voice for Peace). You must be new to this issue.

[@Thewoj2123]

Two state solution is not possible both Jews and arabs live in both sectors

[@nadinedabat2433]

as a palestinian, I am willing to accept a two state solution to finally bring peace to Palestine. I have had to accept that the jews will never back down, however in no universe should the jewish state be bigger than Palestine or have control over Jerusalem. Jerusalem has always belonged to Palestine and always will!

[@jassmineelb8006]

Loved this explaination ❤️

[@chagaif]

Why didn't you mention Rabins assassination?

[@brianhanrahan7561]

they would have to use the term" Jewish terrorist" and then their funding would evaporate and get kicked out of the dimona country club

[@thedemongodvlogs7671]

@@brianhanrahan7561 ummm aside from your shite conspiracies, they made a whole ass video on the assassination

[@brianhanrahan7561]

@@thedemongodvlogs7671 they...thank you for your service, I am sure

[@ronaldraygun3386]

Why didn't he mention Anwar Sadat's assassination, or the fact Egypt was suspended from the Arab League for Sadat negotiating peace with Israel? The only reason there is a conflict is because the surrounding muslim countries, and muslims in general, just can't accept one tiny jewish nation in the area, the only jewish country in the world. Hundreds of thousands of jews fled from Marocco, Algeria, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq etc. to Israel, from the oppression on those countries. Why aren't they called "jewish refugees", and why isn't UN demanding all those arab countries to give part of their land to the jews who had to leave those countries? Two-state solution in all the aforementioned arab countries, with jewish states in all of them? Sounds good, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm??? Double standards and all that...

[@brianhanrahan7561]

@@ronaldraygun3386 They are not called " Jewish refugees " because the Jews CHOSE to immigrate to istarl and can return to their former homes anytime they like. Unlike The Palestinian refugees who were forced out in order to create a Jewish demographic majority and. Want to return to their homes.but are denied that basic human right Get a dictionary

[@babyyodachelsea7034]

I think This is the most unbiased informative video on the entire web

[@jshdhsjdh3359]

actually the video spittin fax

[@Chillagon_Productions]

Its bias to a two state solution

[@philo9046]

it's heavily biased and try to show that palestinians are bad people for just who they are and is factually incorrect like for example him saying that arafat was the one that was responsible for the failing of Negotioations and truely it was the israelis if you read for people of both sides and americans who wittnessed the Negotioations you will know what i am talking about

[@VeraDonna]

You can't really call it unbiased when it comes from a jewish channel.

[@michaelsmullen9891]

@@Chillagon_Productions Of course it is, as that's what both sides have been talking about since 1978. Only in the past few years has a one state solution been considered. There already is a defacto Palestinian state and it's called Jordan where Palestinians make up 70% of the populace.

[@calich33sehead]

Have you done a video on the confederation idea?

[@UNPACKED]

We have not, but maybe that would be a good topic to cover!

[@MrsFlipp3r]

arafat here looking like eric andre

[@winny5323]

loved this explanation!

[@yankeeluver100]

This is a good take on the issue. I feel most takes on this issue are too bias to one side or the other.

[@jayander7705]

It’s a horrible “take”, as it changes nothing, zero change.

[@KarlUrbahn]

From what I've learned, there wouldn't be any conflict if it wasn't for the British.

[@asadb1990]

yeah if the british and the french gave the land promised to the arabs, there would be no conflict. and the ruling family of hashemites were far more tolerant than the saud family of saudia arabia.

[@JonJon-sd1fp]

@@asadb1990 You mean when the British promised Palestine to the Jews, promised Palestine to the Arabs and promised to divide the Ottoman Empire with France and Russia with Palestine being part of Britain's spoils.

[@asadb1990]

@@JonJon-sd1fp yes plus parts of saudia arabia like mecca were also promised to the hashemites as well. but alas how would british empire be memorable if they hadn't messed with the status quo.

[@singyuliu4708]

Or if ottom empire didn’t exist it also wouldn’t have happend or byzantin empire or even the roman one

[@karnaf1359]

The conflict start whay brfore

[@yehudityehuda6464]

I am Israeli and I love Palestine and Israel very much .. from my point That Jerusalem is the right of the Jews, but Palestinians and Muslims are welcome to live with us of course .. I am very happy to have Arabs, Palestinians and Muslims frinds I like to live together in one land ☪️🕊️🕊️✡️ May my god bless ... 🙏🤲 1 Algeria 🇩🇿 2 Bahrain 🇧🇭 3 Comoros 🇰🇲 4 Djibouti 🇩🇯 5 Egypt 🇪🇬 6 Iraq 🇮🇶 7 Jordan 🇯🇴 8 Kuwait 🇰🇼 9 Lebanon 🇱🇧 10 Libya 🇱🇾 11 Mauritania 🇲🇷 12 Morocco 🇲🇦 13 Oman 🇴🇲 14 Palestine 🇵🇸 15 Qatar 🇶🇦 16 Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 17 Somalia🇸🇴 18 Sudan 🇸🇩 19 Syria 🇸🇾 20 Tunisia 🇹🇳 21 commands 🇦🇪 22 Yemen 🇾🇪 23 Israel 🇮🇱

[@lenabo9929]

No one has a right over anything.

[@avarmauk]

The solution would need to be for both sides to observe their religions with less conviction. That’s not going to happen anytime soon.

[@redpoppy4816]

Zionism is not a religion.

[@Judah_Katzenberger]

Israel was founded as a secular nation. Jews are not required to believe in Ha'shem, though most do. In fact, Golda Mayer, the first female prime minister of Israel, was a staunch atheist.

[@redpoppy4816]

@@Judah_Katzenberger *Israel was NOT founded as a secular state. It was founded as a JEWISH MAJORITY STATE.* *Of course, Golda MEIR (real name: Golda Mabowitz-Meerson)* was a Russian Jewish atheist. Not only was she an atheist, she had a complete lack of moral values. As Prime Minister, she was responsible for the shooting down of a CIVILIAN Boeing airliner in 1973. She murdered all 106 innocent passengers and crew. This criminal act was perpetrated over the then occupied Egyptian territory of Sinai. The civilian airliner was in distress, and, instead of coming to the assistance of the airliner, Israel's leaders ordered their fighters shoot it down. Israel always favours one religious group at the expense of all others.

[@AbdulTheV1ogger]

@@Judah_Katzenberger still racist society

[@AbdulTheV1ogger]

@@Judah_Katzenberger it doesnt change the fact they r the most racist ppl in history.

[@theentirestateofalaska.4983]

Britain what the hell have you done

[@WaveRider1989]

Hey Britain's idea here was probably the better one then what UN resolution voted on. Thanks the Americans and Soviets for that

[@JonJon-sd1fp]

Here's what Britain did:1. Promise Palestine to the Jews. 2. Promise Palestine to the Arabs. 3. Promise to divide the Ottoman Empire with France and Russia with Palestine as part of Britain's spoils.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@JonJon-sd1fp Thats not really what Britain offered all parties. Pretty safe to say that the British totally underestimated how many jews would want to migrate there. This was driven hard by the persecution of jews in in Russia and parts of Europe at that time (1918 to 1920s). The arabs were upset, and the British tried to put limits on jewish migration there, but ultimately there was no turning back, with the Nazi holocaust of WW2 leading to the mass extermination of jews across Europe.

[@JonJon-sd1fp]

@@lieshtmeiser5542 I want to learn more. If that's not really what Britain offered all parties, then what did Britain offer all parties?

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@JonJon-sd1fp its fairly clear in the histories that Britain didnt make the particular promises that you attribute to them. The british in fact did try to give both sides some, but not all, they wanted, but it was never enough.

[@user-nd9re8vr6l]

can you imagine how much the lives of Palestinians would improve if they accept peace

[@snowmoon7385]

Worried for both...both are kind of isolated..one in land n support(falastin)...other politically(israiil).Hope they both come to coexist togather in peace.

[@gabriele4740]

The title, and the question, however, seems misleading. The video is not actually about whether the Palestinian question can be solved or not. It is rather about why a two-state solution is not possible.

[@toade1583]

Not really, it's rather that the Two-state solution isn't happening because Palestinians haven't made any effort to compromise and instead have escalated violence(Intifada, missile and terrorist attacks) towards Israel and broken the trust(launching missiles in Gaza towards Israel after Israel gave them the Gaza Strip back after the war) of Israelis.

[@gabriele4740]

@@toade1583 the two state solution, as proposed by the Arab League, or as the proposal by Abbass in 2008, actually was itself a compromise. The Palestinian would have accepted a two state solution, but only under some conditions, not at any cost. They are not interested in just any two state solution. They would be only interested in variants of the two state solution that Israel would find unacceptable. And actually, you are repeating just the Israeli biased narrrative: you only see the Palestinians "escalation" while you fail to see the escalation by Israel, and how Israel broke the Palestinians' trust and hopes. For example: I guess you forget the 2nd Intifada has started with the killing of 18 Palestinian demonstrators on the Al-Aqsa ground by the Israeli border police (following a nationalist provocation organized by Ariel Sharon). You may also remember the 2nd Intifada, but you possibly don't put into account the building of Har Homa settlement in 1997.

[@tallevi8685]

Thank you, for making a great, fair video about the topic

[@complextheory9529]

who picked the music..

[@curiouscreativenottalented6259]

Seems like Israel was in the sympathetic position until the settlements.

[@jakecross4628]

Yes. It is certainly true that settlements can't be justified. But the sad truth is that at every stage Palestinians were offered something worse than they had or were offered the previous time.

[@shainazion4073]

​@@jakecross4628Wrong!! The land of the West Bank was not Accepted as a state by the Arabs. The Israelis had won these lands from Jordan in a war that the Arabs started. After Israel regained the lands that were part if the original Mandate, the land was under Israeli control. The Oslo Accords created Areas A,B and C. The Israeli communities are all in Area C, fully under Israeli government and security. There is No reason for Jews to not live in Israel.

[@baku_m_salti3128]

Arab here, this video is pretty good, however I do think you missed on one key point, that being why didn't Arabs accept the partions. The answer most Arabs, including myself, will give is that Arabs and Jews have lived side by side in Palestine for centuries, so why not have a state that we can run together, as compared to other empires running it for us. Open to discussion!

[@iggyzootz1]

jewish people can not live safely unless they are in charge of their own safety. there is a reason there are almost zero jews left in places like Morocco, Iraq , Iran , Lebanon , Syria , Yemen etc…. Yes places like USA and Canada are “ safe” places for us but today does not guarantee tomorrow

[@jshdhsjdh3359]

if there was trust in arabs to be in the leadership of israel, this was a good idea. but look what happened last month in israel, i cant see any trust between the sides

[@Jeez208]

@@iggyzootz1 true...In muslim countries,jews and hindus are cristians r highly persecuted

[@LEsL564]

It is a good question, but again you are saying this as a majority group. Jews lived UNDER Muslims, not side by side. jew were always a minority and oppressed..sometimes more, sometimes less..sometimes the Muslims had good relations, and then suddenly there was a pogrom (like in Iraq 1950) We just want a country where wer are not anyone's bitches...I do believe we can share the land in some kind of federation agreement..but I want Israel to be Hebrew speaking and have Jewish traditions..i dont want to occupy palestinians..thats not what israel should be about

[@inthecouchproductions8103]

Jewish people were massacred dozens of times by racist Arab mobs. They didn't live peacefully. The Arabs made the Jews second class citizens, and when Jews started returning to their indigenous homeland in larger numbers the Arabs tried to slaughter them. That's why the land was partitioned in the first place -- Arabs proved that they had no intention of allowing Jews to live in their conquered territory in anything other than tiny numbers.

[@jamesng7320]

If I don't steal it, someone else is gonna steal it. - Jacob the Jewish Settler.

[@shainazion4073]

Jacob stole nothing. The al Kurd family are squatters, living on land they do not own, and refusing to pay the court ordered rent of about $65.00 per month to stay as protected tenants.

[@MrJuggernautishere]

good video

[@Mo0nleaf_]

this is accurate history and strate facts

[@mfernandez5743]

Very well done

[@noah5665]

This is so interesting and I plan to be a us ambassador is it’s rlly helpful

[@FYI-FU]

this channel is not biased

[@hopahey2241]

It is.

[@kiddwangg1079]

Politics always makes the bottleneck even slower. I hope the people will have a direct concensus to vote. With each issue being presently openly, transpareny and with changes only being allowed by the people, not behind closed doors in a office. If a new war started against an alien species that plans to kill both Palestinians and Israelis, their politicians might still be arguing with each other.

[@AbbeRustMojo]

I recently learnd more about this situation, and tried to come up with solutions on it. Is there some solutions anyone see on this? As of right now I dont really see why the jewish population should clame any of the land at all to begin with. However, I need some more study on this subject. I would like to know what people have as suggestions for solutions

[@SemenTheSailor]

I understand where the Jewish community comes from. After the Holocaust, lots of Jews were tired of being a minority. They wanted their own country where they don’t have to fear antisemitic attacks. They wanted a place they could be safe, secure and free from oppression. But the situation has gotten extremely out of hand with the Jewish people now oppressing the Palestinians. And now Israel has so much power they can’t be asked to just back down. I think the only solution would be a third party ruling over the region, but I don’t see how Israel would ever accept that. It’s an extremely difficult situation, and a clear solution is way beyond me.

[@yurichtube1162]

@@SemenTheSailor the solution is arabs leaving.

[@yurichtube1162]

The palestenian identity is based on hate. The problem is islam, it promotes war.

[@AbbeRustMojo]

@@SemenTheSailor Thanks for this reply. This is the the similar conclusion I also have atm. I tried to think of so many solutions for this lately and this could be one of the most challenging ones. I listen to both sides a lot. I'm sure there must be a solution that both can agree on. From what I understand, UK and UN had a big responsibility in this. If the UN gave away all this land to Israel I think they atleast should make sure the Palestinians shoud get a very high living standerd for giving away so much of their land. Basically, if the jews want some area so bad. Do a valuation of the historic land. And make sure UN and Israel pay a high price to all Palestinians, so they can become a super economy state, with booming economy. One of the highest living standerd in the world for many generations to come, payd by UN and Israel in order to freely give away the country and stop the fight. Maybe thats a solution.

[@kingsaracoon9594]

@@yurichtube1162 you need to learn more about religion in general if you think islam is a belief that resolutely promotes war.

[@shawndorisian1857]

The problem with programs like this is that they make the Palestinians look like they are being unreasonable. The way to look at this is think of someone moving into your home and telling you that your house will be turned into a duplex. You have no say over this, and the authorities that should protect your rights instead push for a duplex because said authorities had committed crimes against your home invaders. Under the League of Nations and United Nations charters any partition plan had to be voted on by the LEGAL residents of the area. Never were the legal requirements carried out within Mandate Palestine. Who in their right mind would agree to splitting their house up so that a criminal who has invaded has a place to live.

[@smartguy360]

It wasn't their home to begin with, most of them were recent economic migrants to the area, just look at their last names for a clue, al masri means the Egyptian

[@nurieln]

Shawn Dorisian complete and utter bullshit. The league of nations charter that was based on the conclusions an decisions of the San Remo conference declared the land from the Jordan river to sea as a projected Jewish state. Britain was given the job of implementing this international decision. With the failure of the Zionist movement to populate the area with jews, the UN moved to the alternative concept of dividing the land between jews and arabs..... which is contrary to the charter of the League of Nations. NO ONE had heard of a palestinian country or a nation then.... not even the arabs who discussed the partition of the middle east at the end of WW1. The lands on which Israel was established on were purchased legally and with good money from arab and ottomans. Many so called palstinians are known to have made a fortune from being involed in the sale of lands to jews.

[@Judah_Katzenberger]

Most of the "Palestinians" in Israel now were smuggled in under the cover of night by Syria, Iran and Iraq with the orders to pretend they were from the area. Then, once established, have as many children as possible to economically break the social order and tax base. The land was relatively uninhabited in 1948, and almost 300 years of international land surveys proved that. Then all of a sudden thousands of people started claiming they had always lived there.

[@kjkh3104]

@@Judah_Katzenberger While it is true that the area was barely populated and that there were recent Arab immigrants, I think most of the Arab population in 1948 was what it was due to natural reproduce (didnt find something that says otherwise)

[@rajashashankgutta4334]

So arabs can immigrate from other countries and become legal residents of Palestine but Jewish immigrants can't?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Two state solution has moved UN to West Bank in Palestine and in the peace process transferred political central government from West to Islam.

[@whittenoval]

Why has my post been slashed .

[@jeremyf6821]

That seems like a lot of missed opportunities to have a functional and independent nation, sometimes I don't understand just what the PLO actually wants. That last offer seemed to get the PLO nearly everything they could want, except the right of return to refugees, but Israel is never going to let that happen. I can image the mess that would turn the internal politics into.

[@toade1583]

We all know they want to take over Israel. They said multiple times they don't want a Jewish state to exist and have been the antagonistic side for as long as this conflict has existed.

[@philo9046]

you and others are clearly misinformed if you looked at the negotioiations of yaser Arafat. you would know it was the fault of israel for stalling and demand to Annes parts of West bank

[@philo9046]

and the right of refugees to return is based on UN reslution by the way they are just asking for their right to return to their homeland nothing more

[@ORDENSSTAAT_]

the PLO haven't been offered "everything they want", a quick search and you'll see the terms were: Settlements remain, Israeli occupation remains, Palestinians cannot expand their own settlements forcing the ever-growing Palestinian population to remain in crowded camps, no airports, no Military for the Palestinian Authority inevitably leading to the rise of Militias. It'll be literally the same thing. Not to mention, ever since the death of Arafat, the Palestinian Authority and PLO has turned into a corrupt mess.

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

Il tell you what they want: replace the entirety of Israel by “palestine” that’s what they want

[@johnjingleheimerschmitt9356]

Why arent I fifty points ahead in da pollz

[@johnjingleheimerschmitt9356]

IDream0fDeathbutDreamsDon'tComeTrue Right, because I care about having good grammar while typing up youtube comments. Because that’s a priority.

[@richardsimms251]

Great video

[@ofrikalif4938]

when one side is screaming "from the river to the sea palestine will be free" which is just another way of saying "we want the destruction of Israel and its people" it shows their "will" for peace sorry, peace will be when one side will not be there. as much as it sounds sad, this is the reality.

[@toedrag-release]

The sad thing is whomever says that phrase is really advocating for Palestinians to lose their lives. Isreal whether anybody wants to admit it, is not going anywhere. They are armed with Nukes, they have one of the most advanced militaries in the world. Goading Palestinines into fighting against a country that literally has nukes in an attempt to claim Isreal as their own is a sure fire way to see endless bloodshed on the Palestinian side. These people are not "pro Palestine" they're just anti Isreal and anti Western World.l with such strong convictions they would rather see Palestinians lose their lives in a war that they cannot win just to prove "West bad, Isreal bad". True Pro Palestinians are the ones advocating for a 2 state solution and ending the bloodshed

[@santiagodaza8953]

You are the one who gives it that connotation, because in reality the phrase: "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free" , it is simply refers to the fact that all Palestinians will be able to be free from the oppression of the state of Israel and will be able to enjoy Human Rights for all. At no time is there talk of destroying Israel and its population.

[@ofrikalif4938]

@@santiagodaza8953 in arabic this phrase is being stated as "from the river to the sea Palestine is arab" the "free" part is being used in English because it sounds better for western ears and it rhymes, same way as Al Jazira in English and in arabic are saying diffrent things despite being the exact same company.

[@PhantomSavage]

Another shining example of how badly British imperialism leaves behind a mess. They would always just roll up, conquer a place, then go "I have absolutely no idea who lives here or why, but I'm going to go draw a bunch of pretty shapes on this map now and let them figure out who owns what themselves later."

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

When the Ottomans conquered the region, they mustve had a better understanding of who lived there, but the imperial attitude wouldve been similar.

[@BlainEnoch]

@@lieshtmeiser5542 The Ottomans had no interest to divide the land. They ruled almost the entire Middle East and didn't place any borders. The British and French immediately decided to break down the Middle East into tiny fractions, so they could trade them for political favours. "You help me manage this riot and I will give your tribe this small country as a show of gratitude". That's their way of running the world.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@BlainEnoch the point of it is that palestine before the british was ruled by the ottomans, not palestinians. When the british and french left and independence was declared, we didnt see the arab nations federate, so it cant all be laid at the feet of colonial divide and conquer.

[@BlainEnoch]

@@lieshtmeiser5542 Sorry, I don't understand your logic. If an empire gave you and your family a small country to govern, and a generation later, after your reign was established and accepted by all, the empire decided to leave. Why would you want anything to change? As long as the quality of life is decent, why would your citizens want anything to change?

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@BlainEnoch "Why would you want anything to change?" Of course. Thats what everyones like. Read through history and show me where nothing changed? The Ottomans were defeated by the allies, including arab groups of the region. Things were different under the British, and I think the palestinians thought if they protested enough, through lobbying and rioting etc, that they would get what they wanted visavis the arrival of the jewish diaspora. It was a miscalculation on their part, because ultimately what it did was convinced the jews that there would be no peace, that they had to achieve their own independent state. It didnt start out that way, it evolved to it.

[@ezrahershman7193]

there already is a palestinian state called Jordan.

[@donjon6244]

There's already a Jewish homeland its called Europe;)

Don jon WELL SAID. 👏👏👏👏👏

Abbas khreis AMEN. 👏👏👏

[@JohnSmith-dj2ml]

Mia Sāgara ayo so you’re not gonna get on Abbas here for “filthy Zionist?” Seems like a lack of continuity

nurieln Sure, I’m supposed to take your word for it. Well I’m not. And not all Arabs are violent and cruel. Sorry your experience turned you into a bitter person who treats others the way you claim to have been treated. You basically turned into a vengeful, bigoted jerk. A lot of Jews don’t share your sentiment. Just ask Jewish Voice for PEACE.

[@hishamalaker491]

''The Transfer of 225,000 Palestinian Arabs, from the Jewish state to the Arab one'' And you wonder why we rejected it.

[@monikacombs9695]

Every time I listen to this song I start to cry😔

[@UNPACKED]

What song?

[@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer]

Unpacked the joe song

[@surashubar1514]

This portrayal of the conflict seams quite one-sided. You mentioned how arabs were against an Israeli state but there were no further expansions on why they were against it. For example that the minority of 600.000 jews were assigned 56,6% of the land while 1.2 million palistinians were reduced to 43,5%. Palistinan people viewed the declaration of a jewish state by the UN as another act of european colonization. And this is just a fraction of the reasons why the palistinan population opposed the Israeli government.

[@rajashashankgutta4334]

1. Most of that land was "desert". Partition plan was based on population of respective communities. 2. Most of the arab Palestinians were immigrants just like jews. If they can claim themselves as legal residents why can't jews?

[@AbdulTheV1ogger]

@@rajashashankgutta4334 no they were racist to arab, arab want revenge

[@spellerwix]

thank you for telling the truth!

[@thewrabi1]

Mr.A giving a piece of land to mr.B, but owner of land not mr.A nor mr.B. Real owner of land is Mr.C.

[@jshdhsjdh3359]

land can be taken when you conquer it, as everyone was doing for few houndred of years. the land is the land of israel since 1948.

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

I know a solution but we would all be playing Fallout for life,

[@benjaminhenderson7059]

Look at a map of palestinian territory over time. It has shrunk like a woody in a blizzard. I notice you dont mention that bit.

[@effreyjeppstein4673]

A country unable to defend itself sill surely be cut up and divided among its neighbors. This is nothing new and we're probably going to see palestine evaporate. The global map is constantly changing, why is it that people fail to understand?

[@benjaminhenderson7059]

@@effreyjeppstein4673 I do understand it, I just dont much care for it. Its nothing but an excuse to say "thats how its always been"

[@effreyjeppstein4673]

@@benjaminhenderson7059 pick up a rifle and stop them

[@benjaminhenderson7059]

@@effreyjeppstein4673 Precisely what the palestinians have done. I wish them all the luck in the world, their gonna need it.

[@effreyjeppstein4673]

@@benjaminhenderson7059 now refer to my first response. Still incapable of defending territory, so they lose it inch by inch.

[@9xprincess]

Idk this sounds complicated but it’s sad that the Palestine’s could have had their own state many times but got denied because of stubbornness from their and other Arab leaders.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Political central government uses two state solution to move UN to West Bank in Palestine, then tells people and nations that two state solution about Palestinians.

[@hopahey2241]

Problematic solution, it would only work if Israel has some sort of military control over the west Bank. An attack on Israel from the west Bank would be more devastating than you can imagine.

[@user-hp5rc4it4l]

I'm jews arabian

[@jamesm7324]

Never forget the USS Liberty. How long can you keep up this charade?

[@UNPACKED]

We're actually working on a video about the USS Liberty and have even been in contact with someone who was on the ship during the attack. Stay tuned!

[@jamesm7324]

@@UNPACKED I would be shocked if your narrative does not refer to this deliberate attack as an "accident," or "something long since apologized for" i.e. downplaying as much as possible. Who funds this channel, by the way? I am supremely interested to know who paid for ads for a 17k sub Zionist shilling channel. Also happy hanukkah :>)

James Michaels Unpacked changed their name from Jerusalem U in which Alan Dershowitz is co-chairman, if THAT tells you anything about their “ethic”...

[@UNPACKED]

We're planning on presenting the arguments of both sides, we aren't a news organization nor do we have the staff or funds for extensive investigative journalism. We can only rely on the information that is available. In terms of who we're are - We're a non-profit funded by donors of various backgrounds and political views. BTW, in regards to what Mia said, they are incorrect (and most likely relying on the outdated and inaccurate Wikipedia article about our parent company). Alan Dershowitz isn't, and never did, run our organization. He was part of a large group of known Jewish people who were part of our now very defunct Core 18 program. We changed our channel name for a few reasons - mainly since the name didn't make any sense and it was confusing people. We started off 9 years ago with an accredited program (off KZbin) but haven't offered anything like that for years. People would also confuse us with the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Another reason we changed was because JerusalemU doesn't explain what we do. We not hide our former channel name (just check out channel, we mention it multiple times) and parent organization, and have no reason to. We don't claim the be the only, final, or definitive authority on anything Israel or Judaism, we want to provide fact based information and a starting point for anyone - regardless of their political or religious affiliation. Disagree with some of the things we say? That's fine! We are all for (respectful) discourse. Do we have biases? Of course, everyone does. What's important is to make sure you are aware of them and to do your best to keep it from affecting the interpretation of fact. Btw, Hannukah is two months away, so Merry Christmas... we guess?

Unpacked You will NOT be covering it from both sides. You are Jerusalem U rebranded as “Unpacked” but 💯% biased Zionist propaganda. I never said Alan Dershowitz ran your channel but was a co-chair. First you say he had no part in it then you say he was part of it. Make up your mind.

[@effreyjeppstein4673]

Israel forever!

[@amitkenan3878]

If you have an idea how to evacuate close to half a million settlers from Judea and Samaria without causing a civil war within Israel, I would love to hear

[@iggyzootz1]

thise people are not meant to be moved atkeast from the large populated ones. they are part of future safety buffer if two state ever happens

[@kjkh3104]

Israel withdrawed from Gaza, and in the same way around 9k jews were displaced from their homes. The result was Hamas, and now Gaza is in a worse situation for the Palestinians and for Israelis.

[@rayansaskatoon424]

You are not just.

[@Repackrider84]

Basically no. You can watch many videos asking people on the street both Palestinians and Israelis whether there is a solution and they generally say no. Essentially the Palestinians say they want "all" the land back or "all" the land is theirs. And the Israeli's essentially do not want their way of life diluted by outsiders. Because they wont be able to effectively accomplish their goals as a society and culture. And this is justifiably driven out of fear of the whole Jewish population and way of life (based in Israel and other places) being destroyed or disappearing. In other words you can't have practically every Middle Eastern country hate the Jews or at least wish they weren't there and then expect them to trust anyone. History doesn't matter, 1948, 1967, the Bible, the Torah, the UN, OSLO, some dudes opinion from Ireland, none of it matters, Israel has no intention of ever negotiating anything that gives them less land, less control or even the possibility of less territory expansion. Essentially the conversation is over, what we have left is just lip service.

[@toade1583]

I agree except for the end. Israel has negotiated for less presence in the West Bank multiple times and has given the Palestinians Gaza, they decreased their land more than enough. It Palestinians who won't accept anything other than all Jewish Israelis being expelled from the land.

[@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440]

Exactly if one side won’t play ball then you can’t make resolutions

[@independent2368]

No human can do it, its all about the return of Messiah to save his people at the last hour and is part of the plan. Israeli PM Golda Meir, once said something to the effect that there can never be peace unless the Arabs begin loving their children more than they hate Jews and was pretty much spot-on with her assessment 😪

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

You are so right!

[@pointserg]

Война не прекратится никогда это на все времена, пока там религиозные люди живут была бы одна религия то может быть , и прижились но не факт ибо крестьяне воюют меж собой.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Two state peace process has given UN political central government to Islam.

[@bobted6266]

20th

[@zyanego3170]

This land obivously belongs to the phoenicians

[@imnumbinthepain9204]

They’re extinct

[@zyanego3170]

@@imnumbinthepain9204 Sure?

[@mr.biscuits2160]

U sure ? I think Phoenicians settled above Israel in modern day Lebanon and Syria

[@imnumbinthepain9204]

@@zyanego3170 There’s only RUMOURS that they exist in Lebanon and Syria

[@uyghurmalay4155]

there's another name, Phillistine, no?

[@SantaFe19484]

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem!

[@rennyskiathitis8178]

Unpacked, you can't leave out the inportance of the League of Nations in the creation of the Mandate for Palestine.

[@charliewarren1383]

I don't like how you put blame on the Palestinians for not 'agreeing' with the various partition plans (that btw, gave Israel more of the Palestinian's land each time a new plan was presented). The conflict hasn't arisen as a result of the Arab community, so the Palestinian's should feel no implication to sign an agreement. The policies of the State of Israel have clearly violated Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention (concerning the transfer and deportation of the civilian population). There is no scenario where the problems of the conflict can be attributed to the Palestinians as their land has been intruded and taken from that, akin to the actions of colonial powers in the centuries prior.

[@lavinissensonthecommenter4197]

There is a simple solution the Palestinian giving a little bit of land to free themselves it’s actually a great deal if you think about it

[@nos3ble3d]

I thought the video would be unbiased going by the comments but the guest picture you showed saying the arabs were offered more land is false. The partition offered three pieces to the jewish state which also included part of Jerusalem and the reason the Palestinians didnt accept it because it wasnt fair according to the demographic of the time.

[@nurieln]

Ali K Very very very untrue 1. The partition stipulated on making Jerusalem an internationally administered city - very similar to what the Vatican is now - and to give all religions equal rights. This was refused by the Jordanians who absorbed most of jerusalem. 2. The Jewish state was given a much smaller area thanwas allotted to arabs. The palestinians (and they were not called palestinians then) did not agree because - according to them- even the land allotted to the jews was also part of this mythological palestine. This is true even today

[@nos3ble3d]

@@nurieln all the maps I have seen online for the orignal partition presented by the UN state otherwise...what you're saying about Jerusalem is probably true but I dont know about the rest...and even the Jerusalem part is hard to believe when everyone knows that hardcore Zionists and right wing jews have wanted a 3rd temple for so long...

[@msigurko]

Yes. Correct. Because they took into account that millions of Jews would be immigrating into the new state of Israel very shortly. Don't tell me that you didn't think about it 🤣

[@tessemo]

That map is literally all we needed to see. No wonder they rejected the two state solution

[@iggyzootz1]

so nothing is better lol. losers mentality .

[@shainazion4073]

In 1937, the Arabs were offered 80% of the land, they turned that down also, because the Jews were offered the other 20%

[@i_likemen5614]

@@shainazion4073 Jews were a tiny percent of the population at the time

[@shainazion4073]

@@i_likemen5614 Read the Charter of the Mandate of Palestine. The Mandate of Palestine had one mission only, to reconstitute the Jewish homeland in the Area of Palestine. Had the Arabs agreed to the 1937 Peel Commission offer, the Jews would have had only 4.5% of the original Mandate lands, while being over 25% of the population at that point. In 1936, the Jewish population was 384,078, the non-Jewish was 982,614.

[@tictoc5443]

Palestinians took land east of the jordan river in 1922 for their jew free state..with a land area 4 times the size of israel yet they are not satisfied Imo they need to let go their blood lust and live in peace

[@searcherholic3473]

Looking back, one can definitely see Palestinians have a moral case for opposing the existance of Israel. However one thing is for sure, its not going away. Israel seems to have grown somewhat over time partly due to its superior negotiation tactics and allegiances. This must be stopped and serious concessions made. It's hard to see how Israel can somehow be abolished and subsumed into a Palestinian state without some serious powersharing comittments. Its just not realistic. And demands for that can only be seen as bad faith warmongering. However Israel seems intent on overplaying its hand, demanding more land and aggravating the situation rather than at the very least recognising that its very creation was a form of colonial oppression. The Palestinians can bemoan the existance of an Israeli state but Israel is obviously very powerful now. It has to negotiate on achievable things that will have concrete benefits for its citizens not simply invite war and bloodshed

[@jorgegomez3224]

I agree but you also have to mention that a lot of the land annexed was due to successfully defending against foreign agression.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

"The Palestinians can bemoan the existance of an Israeli state but Israel is obviously very powerful now." And the nations around Israel have tended to become less powerful over time, if not implode into chaos and disorder. Syria is still in civil war, Lebanon sufferes political and demographic dysfunctionality, Iraq has been conquered several times because of its own mistakes and weaknesses, Egypt is ruled by a secular general with no interest in war, Saudi Arabia has a young ruler aligned to the US, etc. Only Jordan seems to be stable. And the only cohesive enemy of Israel these days is Iran, separated by significant distance and under crushing sanctions from the US. "... its very creation was a form of colonial oppression." I think you have to be careful with this assertion. When Jews were encouraged to settle to palestine under British rule, it was a solution to a pressing humanitarian problem of Jews being hated and persecuted in most of the places they lived at that time and having nowhere really to go, as the US and other countries put limits on migration from eastern europe. Opposition from the arabs meant that thousands of jews that couldve been saved from Nazi occupied Europe were prevented from escaping. The palestinians probably hoped at that stage that they would win independence, but their own bigotry towards the jews ultimately led to them losing everything anyway. Is that all the jews fault, or is a large part of the blame to go to the arabs? Afterall, at that time they didnt even have a country, and had been occupied for centuries; in my reading i cant honestly recall ever seeing an significant period of time when Palestine was independent. There were significant periods of muslim rule though, and maybe thats the real underlying cause of this conflict.

[@sumomaster9144]

@@lieshtmeiser5542 So let me get this straight...the US, Europe didn't want them at best or persecuted them and thus it's the Palestinians fault? Why is it ok for Europe and the US to say no thanks whilst not so for the Palestinians? Either I failed to understand your logic or you are being awfully biased here.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@sumomaster9144 These arent permanent policies. At different points in time different things occurred (eg the rise of the nazis) and this coincided with immigration policies that had been implemented for domestic political and social reasons in the countries in question. Many jews were accepted however, so its not a case of America and Europe saying 'no thanks'. Indeed, pre nazism, Poland was more than happy to have jews come, when it was cleaved in 2 at the start of WW2 they were then murdered and persecuted by both the Nazis and the Stalinists, as both those sides hated them. "...being awfully biased..." Most of the actors on this subject have been biased. No negotiation works if one side just says 'no, no, no, no, no' and never gives anything. Thats really the causal source of the palestinian problem.

[@spikeshnoops9940]

ISRAEL - Arab Supreme Court judge - Countless Arab judges - Arab police chiefs - Arab MPs - 1/3 of all Israeli doctors are Arabs (same with university professors) - Freedom of speech & religion - Arab government ministers Arafat died as one of the world's richest dictators IMF still searching for MISSING 70 BILLION $ FOR PALESTINE ALL US, EU, Arab countries & UN aid funds stolen Only recipient - Suha Arafat his dear & beloved wife ($40,000,000) Escaped France (embezzlement) Stripped of Tunisian citizenship-corruption HAMAS COVENANT (Aug 18, ’88) ISRAE DESTRUCTION through Jihad 
 "Israel will exist “UNTIL JIHAD OBLITERATES IT”
 Article 13: “ No solution for Palestinian question except Jihad." [P. 7]
 Article 11: “Palestine - an Islamic land for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day.

[@davidtamiran]

Short answer: NO!!!

[@lavinissensonthecommenter4197]

Yasser Arafat lore:no

[@AbdulTheV1ogger]

because we want only revenge but they call it terrorism?

[@markasbrownie9965]

Short answer: No.

[@jayschwartz3203]

Only God can resolve it , and not people.and will in his own time and way, whatever and whenever that is.

[@jaronby]

Jordan was part of the original Jewish state according to San Remo conference in 1922, and was part of the British mandate. The British broke it of their mandatory as an Arab state. So in fact Jordan is already the Arab state in Palestine....

[@alanlockwood2107]

The state of Palestine was created in 1988. It has no claim over the lands conquered in DEFENSIVE wars prior to its birth, including 1967, as these lands belonged to Jordan and Egypt, whose claim over them was never even questionned by any sort of palestinian authority, which didn't even exist.

[@afterchangey2554]

palestine and jordan is the same , jordan represented palestine.

[@jayander7705]

Just be real, don’t be a politician! Palestinian people exist! Those people are in the news daily and so they are real people with real needs/concerns! Therefore, talk of “1988”, arab or Palestinian is just a waste of valuable time.

[@philo9046]

it wasn't defensive you etnically cleansened innocent palestinian indegenous farmers just for who they are and stole their proberty and to this day prevent them from coming back

[@alanlockwood2107]

@@philo9046 no, they were told by the invading arab armies to leave so they could massacre each and every jew in the newborn Jewish state. And those who sided with these armies coming with genocidal intent towards the Jewish people were banned from returning after the Jews miraculously won. It's that simple. And if Israël ethnically cleansed the arabs in Palestine, their wouldnt be 2 million arabs leaving in Israël, with equal right, freedoms and opportunities as any other citizen, and more than arabs have in actual neighboring arab countries.

[@aidanlutz8106]

Mr Beast has the best idea.

[@simko8665]

Of course, and it will done sometime. Most of the Arabs are for it but there are also many that won't let it happen. Hamas, Hezbollah.

[@lavinissensonthecommenter4197]

Fatah is worse then hamas

[@simko8665]

@@lavinissensonthecommenter4197 I don't think so. Fatah is under control of the PA authority, Hamas is unexpected and under control of Iran and Qatar.

[@lavinissensonthecommenter4197]

@@simko8665 wait do they really have control over Qatar?

[@simko8665]

@@lavinissensonthecommenter4197 I say that Qatar has control on Hamas since they are transferring to Gaza tens of Million Dollars every year to the Hamas itself and to needed families.

[@lavinissensonthecommenter4197]

@@simko8665 someone need to destroy hamas and annex gaza in my opinion Egypt can take gaza and deal with Hamas if they want to invade gaza which they don’t so the only thing that can invade gaza is Israel but because of antisemitism it’s impossible

[@rutyreal9585]

Just bring back the Ottoman empire and let them take over Palestine :D

[@TheCaptainSplatter]

Well first stop is taking Syria.

[@pumpkinlife103]

The world needs more ottomans, relaxin chillaxan. Playin some b ball, ain't startin no trouble in no neighborhood......all that jazz. The edits in this lasted for 10 min, phones suck.

[@miabrown6036]

Pumpkin Life “All that jazz”..? What are you, 80 years old?

[@merkavamkivm5156]

*Israel, and the ottomans won't be able to do it....

[@FirstnameLastname-pt5ss]

Based option

[@arib9877]

Lets go Jacob!!!!

[@UNPACKED]

We're pretty sure Ari here is taking about Jacob, the host of this video.

[@spartanx9293]

@lady love actually middle eastern people can be white or brown

[@romeoantiquina6389]

Two state is impossible. But three state is plausible, state of Jerusalem wherein will have council containing bodied of arabs and Jews in one council, but no leader.

[@BigBubba6969]

but it would be easier to just put the city under international status.

[@romeoantiquina6389]

@@BigBubba6969 UN has no power to enforce their so called laws, and UN is also dirty geopolitical platform of these hounds. Better call for a union or a council for Jerusalem. These councils should made by half. But I don't think peace will settle, since Iran is pushing war against Israel. So, those proxies of these from different countries involved should removed first in Palestinian government, like Hamas and IS.

[@abrahamm1325]

2:38 "150 Religious Leaders ass"

[@ryanalving3785]

"All human conflict is ultimately theological" - Henry Edward Manning

[@staine4478]

Thats just not true lol

[@ryanalving3785]

@@staine4478 Name a conflict you think wasn't ultimately theological.

[@staine4478]

When europeans took over north america. Russia vs USA cold war and proxy wars.

[@ryanalving3785]

@@staine4478 The cold war was an ideological war, all the proxy wars stemming from it too. Ideology is determined by theological positions about how the world functions and how we fit into it. The communists were atheists, their opponents mostly theists, and their ideologies conflicted because of this root difference. European colonization was heavily driven by religious conflict in Europe. Conflict escalated in North America being largely rooted in theological differences between the natives and the Europeans. Europeans wanted to bring the gospel to them, and often this was alongside a wholesale rejection of native cultures as heathen/pagan and therefore barbaric. This conflict escalated when the idea of Manifest Destiny (divine right to the lands from the east coast to the west coast) became prominent and settlers moved further and further west. Conquest is in general rooted in theological positions; either that God doesn't exist and therefore if you want to you can, accumulation of wealth and power become ultimate ends; or the idea that God is either okay with the conquest or desires the conquest to occur. What we believe about God shapes what we believe about the natural world and moral sphere, what we believe about the natural world and moral sphere shapes how we interact with people and the environment we live in. War is the continuation of politics by other means, politics is an extension of culture, culture is an amalgam of the beliefs of the people of a society, which ultimately root into who we think God is. I hope this is helpful, God bless you.

[@staine4478]

@@ryanalving3785 theology is study of nature of the divine and of religious belief. The europeans didnt conquer that land because of their understanding of divinity nor simply they were Christians. You can argue they conquered for power/land. Thinking about this more its chicken or the egg. Whether they did this because of their understanding of divinity and religion or because of their nature and greed.

[@orlandosanchez8123]

Eretz Israel from the slopes of the Golan heights to Ein Gedi, from Tel Aviv to the Mediterranean sea belongs to the Jews since moses brought them out of Egypt til now and forever

[@the-architect7789]

The initial conflict was never complicated! It was made so both in theory(hasbara) and practice(settlements) later to avoid any kind of a Palestinian state! US and Israel refuse to follow UN International resolutions of 2 states based on pre 67 borders (Palestine: West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem | Golan Heights back to Syria | Sinai back to Egypt | Israel: Everything else). Only Sinai was given back to Egypt in 1979 peace treaty! Israel removed their settlements from Gaza in 2005 and put a siege around it from land, air and sea! All peace talks are done around these terms where Israel wants to annex parts of West Bank which has settlements in it and don't want to share East Jerusalem! Israel taking parts of West Bank will break the territorial continuity of a Palestinian state and will make it more fragmented that it already is and that is the point of making those settlements in the first place. Imagine if Palestinians started making settlements inside of Israel proper, they will immediately be termed terrorists!

[@UNPACKED]

“Imagine if Palestinians started making settlements inside of Israel proper” - do you mean like the 163 Arab cities and villages in Israel? Because that currently exists and Israel doesn’t have a problem with that. In terms of deals - there are a million reasons why not to sign a peace deal, why not to compromise, why it could never work. But then you won’t have peace, and conflicts won’t get resolved. It’s a shame the Palestinians have gone down that path. Also you should check the history again: when Israel left Gaza and gave it all to the Palestinians, they didn’t enact a siege. But the first thing the Palestinians did with their newfound sovereignty and “freedom from occupation” was to start shootings rockets into Israel, and kill and kidnap Israelis, and elect a genocidal terrorist group to run their country. Only after that (2 years later) did the siege start. You can learn more here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3iQhqF6lKaeo8ksi=RzB4Vu9wHxLhV0RE

[@the-architect7789]

​@@UNPACKED First, the arab cities and villages were already present there just like all of Palestine pre 1948, these are not like Israeli settlements that were built later! Those are of less importance to Israel. Second, Israel and US have never given a peace treaty based on pre 67 borders or anywhere near it to Palestinians, also US negotiators almost all of them were biased to begin with since all acted like US lawyers and are of jewish background (Ross, Indyk, Miller, etc.). It's a shame for Israel they could have signed a just peace deal and live in peace with muslims and christians but they wanted all of the land.Third, you forgot to mention why those attacks started-US and Israel wanted to control Gaza through their proxy PA (which has no legitimacy left since Arafat was somehow gotten rid of) so elections were held but Palestinians were tired of PA being Israeli and US stooges and voted for Hamas thinking that they would be better. These were the most fair elections in the whole region according to Ex. US President Jimmy Carter who was mediating talks with Hamas back then. Hamas correctly expected a pre emptive strike from PA with US and Israeli backing and that is why the mini civil war started (Hillary Clinton even said that US should have rigged those elections you can find that audio clip online). Once US, PA and Israel realized that they cannot get rid of Hamas from Gaza, they put up a complete siege of the area and Hamas never got a chance to govern fairly. Gaza was under blockade that is why they fire rockets. Also what about the genocidal right wing terrorists that are in the Knesset, they are not only talking about genocide of a people, they are doing live in front of our eyes! Also, please don't disrespect others by bringing up the same state propaganda narratives that have been proven false time after time. Think of some new propaganda, because the existing one is failing badly!

[@UNPACKED]

You clearly haven’t watched this video where we talk about all the times Israel has offered a two state solution close to the ‘67 lines, even though we keep sending it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5y8iHx_Z5qWrq8si=N8hPAU94eV-cXx8F I think you’re just in denial, wanting to believe that Israel is always the bad guy, never wanting to make peace, never wanting to compromise - when the reality is complicated, but much closer the opposite. Sorry you think that, but please at least try. In terms of Gaza, it’s a good question - did the rockets cause the blockage, or did the blockade cause the rockets? Why don’t you look at what really happened, and not all these disrespectful talking points of antiZionists…

[@truthprevails5173]

A Bible Prophecy written 2500 years ago! Getting fulfilled right before our eyes! Ezekiel 37 : 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, whither they are gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all; 23 neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them [j]out of all their dwelling-places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. 24 And my servant David shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in mine ordinances, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, they, and their children, and their children’s children, for ever: and David my servant shall be their prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will [k]place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be [l]with them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28 And the nations shall know that [m]I am Jehovah that sanctifieth Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.