Unreal On Mac Is A LOT Better

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[@embyrdev]

Just a quick tip, the disable hDPI support thing does actually affect the UI text etc. If you leave that on but disable the viewport hDPI setting instead then you get the best of both worlds with a sharp ui and good rendering performance.

[@thydevdom]

thank you. i couldnt figure out was effecting the text

[@the1fist245]

Can you please do an updated video with ideal settings now for UE on Apple silicon with 5.3 and 5.4?

[@richardrick1014]

0:45 - wait a sec..., technical spec for the Mac is 2021 Macbook Pro 24 GPU M1 Ultra ? I think it is a mistake, 24-core GPU is the base model M1 Max.

[@gunterstunter]

Hi there, I’m a regular watcher. Your video was quite helpful when deciding whether to use unreal on an M1 Mac. Since it’s been a relatively good experience with only a few limitations. Could you do a video about the Mac updates in unreal 5.4 and an update to the other updates since your last Mac unreal from 9 months ago. That would be awesome, thanks!

[@JoshuaLundquist]

Oh dude, I had that same project, the Japan streets one from the Unreal Marketplace. It tanked on my PC with a 2080Ti, like 8-15fps looking down that street. Turns out the guy who made that scene didn't do any optimizing on the textures/materials, he just left them all at 4k. So that is definitely a good test of a gpu and it is pretty amazing how this runs on M1's. Gonna finally install Unreal on my MB Pro, plus Nanite & Lumen support are improved in 5.3, apparently.

[@Gome.o]

Regarding technical performance of the chips for Nanite: m2 chips have atómics hardware. M1 chips don’t. That’s the limitation and why it is experimental in m2 but not available on m1. Basically m2s have the hardware. By m3 hopefully atomics should be fully working and supported natively by default. I don’t think m1 will get it unless supported through software conversion

[@feratube]

does m3 fully work?

[@Gome.o]

@@feratube M3s have hardware acceleration for ray tracing and mesh shading now. We'll need to wait and see until more people get their hands on it for testing, but speculative guess is that yes, m3 will support Nanite.

[@feratube]

oh thats interesting thanks

[@thunbergmartin]

Its pretty amazing that its so smooth with 2 copies and video recording. Such a hardworking little machine, Im honestly very impressed :)

[@Abby-ug4xc]

Can you do an update on UE5.4 for Mac? :D Or 5.5 when it releases?

[@CapnSlipp]

M1 Max. The M1 Ultra is exclusive to the Mac Studio (and the M2 Ultra will likely also be exclusive to >3” thick devices with beefy thermal capability, not

[@_jmgomez_]

One thing worth noticing is that LiveCoding doenst have support for MacOS and there are not plans for it. Meaning the C++ experience is quite worst than what it is on Windows.

[@nickgennady]

For me live coding is slower. It’s faster to modify code and just compile from rider.

[@elmervelazquez3549]

nop@@nickgennady

[@S_Tadz]

Having it run is a thing, but on most M1/2 the HDd space is very precious. I doubt any project with huuuge nanite Models would cut it for sizeable projects

[@jayforcinema]

Wouldn't a Thunderbolt 3 SSD be good enough for extending storage?

[@Dave102693]

@@jayforcinemait’s a iffy to force the os to let it use external storage.

[@billB101]

I've been using external SSD storage for heavy audio production, video, Resolume, Touch designer and C4D for a long time with my Mac, never had any issues. Don't see why UE would be any different.

[@renereiterer6058]

Could you take a look at the Photon Quantum Engine? Went free for all couple of days ago

[@gamefromscratch]

Will take a look, cheers.

[@jihadrouani5525]

You said "This is a 2021 Macbook Pro, 24 GPU M1 Ultra", M1 Ultra starts at 48 GPU cores and extends to 64 cores, and isn't available on Macbooks, I think you meant M1 Max

[@gamefromscratch]

Yeah, probably. Their branding is pretty painful... Pro, Max, Ultra... Whatever the pinnacle of 2021 releases was.

[@jihadrouani5525]

@@gamefromscratch That would be the 32 GPU cores on M1 Max, well aside from that it was pretty informative knowing the state of Apple's temporal anti-aliasing and software ray tracer, seems like they're struggling quite a bit, it was very interesting to see Epic pointing out Apple's MetalFX super resolutions isn't that optimal, right before WWDC 23 where a VR headset is expected with some AAA game announcements, meaning those games won't be optimal as well, assuming Apple wasn't working on a Metal 3 update. Very speculative here, but it helps knowing the state of things and what to expect etc...

[@canigetuuhhh]

Did anyone try running UE5 on a M3 Max (or Pro) Macbook see if Nanite and Lumen are working ?

[@sahogrygoryan7993]

Yeees plz

[@IamNeighborlee]

It’s still kinda expensive even on windows

[@canigetuuhhh]

@@IamNeighborlee How come?

[@BubbaSatori]

They are working. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aafVl6KJf7alqdksi=8bX_MEOuIi0nkehq

[@BubbaSatori]

Lumen and Nanite working on m2 macs in 5.3. Hopefully hardware raytracing soon.

[@lukewilliams7020]

are hair grooms working?

[@martinaggerholm8992]

Do you know how to get nanite to work on the m2?

[@IamNeighborlee]

Enable in plugins, just be aware I had an M2 studio Mac, but their performance was far from desirable although I will say impressively much better at switching between modeling mode and landscaping mode compared to my Ryzen three 3600 system with RX 6608 8 GB and 16 GB of RAM

[@devgoneweird]

I am iOS dev and switching from Unreal Engine on windows to macos boosted my productivity because I can use the same tools - especially that I can use XCode for C++. Granted, I want to make mobile games, so Nanite/Lumen support is not high in the list of my demands, otherwise I'd be staying on Windows :/

[@andguy]

Why UE5 for mobile and not Unity or Godot?

[@LoneWolf6063]

@@madaraainnaunity being ugly is definitely one of my main reasons

[@aevoss]

@1:54 what is “the Ui”. Just learning, beginner here.

[@bmhyakiri]

The UI is the portion of the application that you use, like menus, properties, etc. You can think of a web browser as a UI for the internet.

[@IamNeighborlee]

Short for user interface

[@Abhinab3D]

Hi, can you please tell me if the environment you used in the video is available to download?

[@Abhinab3D]

@gamefromscratch can you please help?

[@sowsow6677]

yeah, just search up "how to make an atomic bomb" and it should show up

[@JoshuaLundquist]

They should all be available on the Unreal Engine Marketplace

[@GarrettGoldMOLfilms]

I have an M1 macbook air and I can't really do anything in UE. Been thinking of getting a new mbpro.

[@jashonharris]

I can’t fckn export as a video and no tutorials has the answer

[@gunterstunter]

Is it possible to run metahumans on Mac?

[@Nathangaming2024-z4q]

How do you download it on Mac ?

[@octe-es]

Could you do a tutorial about deploying on iOS and Android from UE5.2, please? it is always an annoying process if you are working on MasOS

[@BRW.2009]

Why it's annoying ?

[@gaussiansplatsss]

Is unreal engine on Macbook with Windows os good for basic unreal engine task?

[@stefanysanay5306]

Hi! How do you go up and down in the viewport with the mouse of a MacBook Pro?

[@vinctr9266]

Hello! Please say how many RAM on testing macbook were in this video? Thank you!

[@EDWARDGLEKOV]

where can I download such scenes for testing? preferably free. I'm a beginner and I want to rotate virtual space

[@Kinetica_tm]

Hi, im willing to get my 1st macbook pro and i do not know if it will run UE so could you pls help me?! Im going with macbook pro m4 max with 16 core CPU and 40 core GPU and 64GB Ram. Do you think i would be ok ?

[@abdelhaleemwaheed131]

What city pack is this?

[@injectionAI]

Any updates?

[@windums560]

Follow up for M3 pro?

[@gamefromscratch]

Sure... want to send me one? ;)

[@cloudboysmusic5223]

Eh its alright. Still not ideal when compared to a traditional Windows CPU + GPU Combo

[@bmhyakiri]

Sure… but I doubt you will find a better laptop

[@cloudboysmusic5223]

@@bmhyakiri For unreal dev? there's plenty

[@bmhyakiri]

@@cloudboysmusic5223 for the price, performance, battery life, screen, etc yeah I doubt you will find something better. There’s plenty of capable windows machines but I doubt there’s any around the same price that are as powerful. Happy to be proven wrong though!

[@jlnproductions1936]

Does anyone happen to know why ProRes isn’t an option for export on a Mac even though the plugins are installed even on 5.2? UE gives no reasoning for this at all.

[@FlynnRingrose]

Unfortunately multiple gamepads are still not supported on macOS in the editor or on any Apple devices in packaged builds. If anyone knows a solution to this bug, please let me know. Any insight would be appreciated.

[@tomorrowtv]

Unreal Engine won't even launch on my M1 Mac mini! any experience with that? Troubleshooting shows no problems, just won't launch.

[@Osama-Dev-]

I hope they make it better on Linux too

[@Osama-Dev-]

@@madaraainna Unreal Engine is more smooth on Linux , and code compilation process is more fast , so I find linux more comfortable.

[@pwhv]

@@madaraainna some people hate windows environment brotha

[@IamNeighborlee]

@Gyropilot42not good for a lot of things, and snotty kids too often. I wasted so much time trying to get to get things working so I gave up. Granted that was a few years ago , is it really any better?

[@IamNeighborlee]

@@pwhvwhy ? Windows at least works for everything, instead of wasting tons of hours getting a lot not working, so many things that have bad support just gets tired of it.

[@pwhv]

@@IamNeighborlee for game dev using commercial game engines i do recommend windows

[@kaffae]

I just got an M2 MacBook Air 2 days ago, nice news thanks for the update!, also do u think an M2 MacBook Air would be able to handle making games on unreal engine? it's not my main computer I have a pc with a 3070 in it at home, but I mean when i'm on the go or traveling or whatever, do u think it'd be able to do well at all?

[@Meepoli]

It’s so new, and you already have the laptop, I’d recommend just downloading 5.2 and trying!

[@kaffae]

@@Meepoli ok! ❤️

[@RyanIsGaming25]

@@kaffae How's the performance looking? Just curious, since I plan on copping a M2 MacBook in the near future for game dev as well haha

[@ellisderrett7055]

Same here I’m thinking of getting the m2 MacBook Air with 24gb/512gb would this be useable for unreal

[@kaffae]

@@ellisderrett7055 well, I use mine and it works very well if I turn off the real time rendering!

[@screenapple1660]

I heard Apple won't allow you open new Mac inside and install Hard Drive, Memory Chip, etc. It's factory seal tight or super glue them very tight. Apple Fans hated it. No warranty or exchange once you open it. You need special apple factory screws. EULA. sigh....

[@Dave102693]

It’s built into the SoC

[@IamNeighborlee]

U mean silicon

[@3diec811]

any wise developer/ environment designer won´t use apple for unreal...

[@BubbaSatori]

I will be developing architectural and travel apps for Apple’s Vision Pro.

[@Shah_creates]

Well Vision Pro is an area where they would

[@IamNeighborlee]

@@Shah_createswould what ?

[@IamNeighborlee]

We tried out M1 Max and unreal was. Disaster, poor fps, and my large terrain project had lots of terrain flickering and none of the supposed answers on Forums worked . Gave up , returned to store and repaired windows machine, where everything works effortlessly.

[@3diec811]

@@IamNeighborlee M1 is a good processor but cant be compared to a gpu with good VRAM. this post is absolutely unnecesary for ppl working in unreal the answer is very obvius

[@nolancrider]

I played a Fortnite map that looks just like this a month or two ago

[@deltaghostprofessionalgame875]

Hey does anyone here can help me with Mac and a project of mine?

[@rbsn3d]

No it isn't. You can't use any vr glasses to work inside Unreal on a mac. It's ridiculous.

[@rajoshikroy4332]

Hey please make a tutorial series on Open 3d engine (O3DE)

[@altercinema4311]

Great video. But I'm still AMAZED UE5 can't export PRORES on a Mac. Like, can't believe it.

[@Tallacus]

Wow, I honestly feel betrayed by them after that whole fiasco between them and Apple.

[@lululu6102]

WhatsApp du you mean?

[@bmhyakiri]

“Betrayed” because they’re supporting a platform? You’re taking development of a game engine personally and feel betrayed? Lol

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@bmhyakiriespecially since Epic was in the wrong since they purposely broke the agreement

[@SupinePandora]

Unreal on linux 😢

[@IamNeighborlee]

Is a waste of time😊

[@2ndbestgames208]

that's all cool but most of us don't use Macs :)

[@Shah_creates]

Most of you should :)

[@IamNeighborlee]

No most do not depends in project mean I loved our M1 Max for a Bit, awesome blender was wicked fast,, hardly any marketplace things work on Mac, very inaccurate readings on Free hd space so had to reboot far too often, and my terrain project from windows machine had nasty terrain flickering and never got any answers as to why. So we returned it and got windows machine repaired.

[@diliupg]

Switvching to Apple is like moving from the free world to a one withrations. Even the nuts and bolts can only be Apple made. Talk about control.

[@burprobrox9134]

So entirely untrue

[@uribak9144]

Mac computer for UNREAL engine what's the point a weak computer without RT support at the hardware level and very expensive. Sorry, but this computer is not recommended at all for work on UNREAL and the special in the 3D field, Apple is simply not there, they have nothing in the league of NVIDIA 4000 series. Funny you say that without power the mac stays at the same performance on battery... it shouldn't be the other way around that plugged in you get more performance from your computer and who runs on battery in UNREAL, you don't want to kill your battery health.

[@owdoogames]

The point is that it is definitely useable, as Mike has shown in the video with his fairly capable MacBook Pro. Yes, it's not optimum compared to a high-end PC with an expensive power-hungry GPU... but if you haven't got one of those, or want to do UE5 dev without being chained to your desk, and have a capable MacBook, then why not? (PS: Don't bother using UE5 on a base model M1 MacBook Air... it's pretty terrible. Unity 2021 LTS and 2022 LTS work fine though, even small HDRP projects).

[@st33ldi9ital]

@@JosephSeed Why? Because a significant portion of professionals and studios have been or are switching to Mac. Why? Because in enterprise and studios, BYOD is a big nono. Mac's are easier to supply, support, are cheaper, more efficient, stable, and secure compared to bespoke workstations. Mac's are powerful workstations. For the cost, you cannot get the same amount of vram in any bespoke config compared to Mac Studio. And they are only going to get better as Apple Silicon and the market for them grows. Apple has no supply issues as with the big three. They are also working on building new chip fabs to meet future demands. And as far as upgradeability goes... it's much easier for a business to have planned upgrade cycles which Apple caters to perfectly, especially with the trade in program. Mac's are very much so one of the absolute best workstations for a large majority of professionals. They have almost every need accounted for across their lineup. The only more efficient option would be thin clients.

[@BookmansBlues]

While I am far from an Apple fan, there are reasons to need to use UE with Mac, and some people only have a Mac, and tend to be gated from using UE as such, so in my book, more UE is better than no UE, and all platforms should be supported, because at the end of the day I also support competition.

[@uribak9144]

@@st33ldi9ital Just the opposite, Apple does not have a Mac Pro workstation that should come out with an Apple Silicon processor not in sight at all. What are you talking about Mac Studio? This is a toy not a workstation. It seems to me that you have no experience at all on a 4090 card with a 13th generation Intel or AMD TR processor... In addition to that, a workstation needs a quality Linux distribution, Linux is currently not in Apple's camp.

[@st33ldi9ital]

@@uribak9144 And it seems to me you have no experience at all with how the real world works nor have experience with Apple in the business or enterprise sector, or even at all. Additionally, Mac is essentially a hardened and user friendly built on unix OS.

[@user-jm6gp2qc8x]

Letsgoooooo 🚀

[@julie-fri]

Super lame. Can't even run Lumen properly. byebye.

[@Няшер-ж3з]

The funny thing about Macs not being sven slightly usable for any kind of development is that it has 1GB HDD and this is not even usable for personal use like gaming, where each game has a size of 100-200 gb. Real non-instagram-non-starbucks-non-hispster developers have at least 8TB hdd at least

[@LoneWolf6063]

Thats bs

[@bmhyakiri]

This is a stupid take

[@GanjaFarmer421]

Thanks For The Video 😎🙏 Can U Please Make More Videos About The Mac Updates For Unreal ……. This Was Very Helpful