Mexico: Locked Up Without Trial | Unreported World

[@pedroortiz-dr7on]

My dad got kidnapped 4 weeks ago, locally the kidnappers let him go. The problem was the Police in Toluca and the system is so corrupted from the state, judicial, and local authorities always want money. It is another lesson of Mexico magico where, you can get incarcerated, calcinated and the Police is worse than the Cartels.

[@LuisCruz-py8qo]

Cualquiera idiota que critica a las autoridades me e dado cuenta que Ellos pertenecen a los CRIMINALES y son los mas corruptos. SUS familiares SIEMPRE en crimen, Sin negar que SI hay corruption Pero ESOS que hablan tristemente los he visto como ellos son El problema. En Mexico hay muy Buenos policias TAMBIEN y si uno cumple con las reglas hacen su TRABAJO.

[@frenchgirl75000]

😱

[@Dgo77]

Excellent documentary , a follow up of Juan Antonio's case would make this documentary complete .

[@cjohnson7508]

That is why mexico needs a judicial reform. Judges are too corrupted, nepotism permeates the courts.

[@sotruem8]

judicial reform is the least problem in mexico

[@cjohnson7508]

@sotruem8 nah ah

[@MiguelGalvan-d2b]

there's already reform going on and America is against it

[@marcomenendez]

Judicial reform not only did not adress this issue and AMLO actually extended the criteria for pre-trial imprisonment, making it easier to spend years in prison waiting for a trial if you don't have the money to speed things up.

[@lucidshakti5178]

YES BUT NOT THE ABSURD THAT HAS BEEN MADE

[@MrJames-tw3so]

To think you can be in jail and all it would take is a 30sec cctv video to be looked at to free you is pretty sad.

[@IngramPetersJr-nr7rm]

Scary even. I would hate to live in such a society

[@pja-in8fk]

ive heard many people in mexico say even criminals on podcasts say people can "tie you up with false chargers" using bribes or connections to send you away to prison and get lost in the system instead of getting their hands dirty, even family members do this to eachother

[@ride1123]

You mean they do that in Mexico too, like they do in the United States? Terrifying.

[@pja-in8fk]

@@ride1123 no im talking about even if theres proof that your innocent they wont listen the judge and prosecutor will be on it not like usa at all fool no empiezen

[@TravellerAfriq]

Mexico needs to follow the footsteps of Elsavado

[@alexcarter8807]

Same as the US they can keep you YEARS before trial. A famous case a while back was a Black kid, still a minor something like 14 or 15 years old, taken to Riker's Island in New York, kept in prison with adults, who eventually killed himself.

[@TheDarkOne805]

I’m the us you have have to see a judge within 72 hrs if you reserve your right to a speedy trial then you can last years in jail until your case is settled

[@kingmaafa120]

Facts

[@ishrendon6435]

You trying to compare latin america to US prisons is laughable lol nothing comes close to the barbarism of latin american prisons amd ive been to rikers island its heaven comapred to mexico or venezuela

[@saulcalvillo8590]

@@TheDarkOne805i know someone that requested a speedy trial and three years+ later no trial, they were kind of forced to take a plea deal as they were tired of waiting and siting in jail. The unjustice system i call it

[@Pheeebz707]

yes! I always think about Kalief Browder's and the hell that poor boy was put through over a damn backpack

[@j.a.martinez4001]

This pre trial thing is crazy… not even tried yet, and completely NUTS is no right to a speedy trial….. I feel bad for him and his family……

[@garciabeto760]

same shit happens in usa

[@devynhale1623]

Here in Canada if you are charged you can be serving up to three years before going to trial. I was facing to 14 years in the penitentiary fighting 3 cases if I didn't have three different people they all had to be not related to me posting for my bail that was $40,000 I would have served three years waiting for trial. In that 3 years I was on a strict house arrest and probation I could only leave to go to work and back. I ended up beating all the cases but still had to go through hell

[@gotyoutriggered.8644]

​@garciabeto760 only if you wave speady trial. If they got over the limit all charges have to be dropped.

[@jorgepere3982]

@@garciabeto760 In México your guilty till found innocent.

[@j.a.martinez4001]

@@garciabeto760 I know brotha Man I’m kinda going thru similar things it’s crazy to be locked up with that though

[@franceselliott5975]

Please keep us updated!

[@adalbertvonpleich-wonninge3700]

The police in Mexico I encountered in 3 months there, were criminals themselves. I got robbed by them in Tulum and met at least 5 tourists who also were robbed by them in a short period there. Locals I met told me it's normal being harassed by them and having to pay them off. Women told me they would do random car stops to sexually assault them. For the lovely civilians I met there I hope they can one day live in peace, but can't see how, as the country is riddled with corruption and criminality even up to the highest ranking positions (CEOs, politicians etc)

[@classyjuanito]

Please make more documentaries like these.

[@cornell833]

Facts 💯

[@Frank-jt3ds]

12:25 today 4 tijuana cops were arrested for kidnapping and adult and his 4 year old son, they wanted 1 million pesos 3 more cops are been question

[@LocoThuggin]

56 bodies in 1 week . Goddamn ! 😧

[@Armando-913]

56 bodies in one week is diabolical

[@F30586]

I don’t understand. Pretrial detention is normal here in the states. I’ve know people that have sat in jail for almost 10 years before their trial. And that was by choice. It’s common for you to sit in jail for months even years depending on the severity of your case. I think the main story here isn’t pre trial detention, I think it’s about how easy it is to be named a suspect and locked up with no investigation at all.

[@arsethr.g3787]

In mexico it's called preventive prison (prisión preventiva) but the thing is prosecutors will forgot about you and they won't investigate.

[@OutragedPufferfish]

There's nothing normal about long pre-trial detention. Sitting in jail is a punishment whether it's pre-trial or after conviction, so if you spend too much time in jail without being convicted, that's an injustice and abuse.

[@OutragedPufferfish]

I live in the Netherlands and pre-trial detention can last a maximum of 110 days here. Keeping someone in jail for years before they're brought to trial is never necessary and always the result of incompetence and corruption.

[@marcomenendez]

Because the US also have big troubles with the judicial system, it's not the no. 1 country with jailed citizens in the world just because.

[@ArtSmosh1274]

​@OutragedPufferfish Sometimes sitting there for a while or long time have help people beat there case.

[@adamensley261]

In America you’re guilty until proven innocent. You can sit it jail for a long time before you go to court

[@vinnygonzalez-h2k]

that is not truth ignorant, only the people who participated on january 6, you know it so don't talk what you don't know

[@GloriaBlakes]

@@vinnygonzalez-h2kbot

[@roncarroll4136]

The opening scene with 4 bodies in one car Killed by The cartel close to where I reside.

[@romella_karmey]

How many die in a day from cartels in your area?

[@F30586]

Que barrio?

[@roncarroll4136]

@@F30586 Que barrio?

[@Unknown-l1o4v]

YEAH MEXICO is crazy I live here ,, its guilty untill proven innocent regardless of the eveidence , it can take 5-10 years to final face a judge for pre trail or even trail and if you are low income yeah good luck

[@aftermath66699]

The USA and CANADA have always had this same system Of pre trial detention

[@ice20091025]

What many people do not understand is that in Mexico, justice exists, but it is primarily accessible to those who have financial means. If you are poor and lack money, the justice system often fails you, and you may spend years in jail before appearing before a judge. This is the change we seek: to ensure that justice is available to everyone, not just to the privileged."

[@garciabeto760]

same as united states .. people with money get away with shit

[@migslife9144]

Morena the change, come on they step narcos too.

[@cjohnson7508]

You should investigate de case of #IsraelVallarta his brother and one of his nephews, in prison for 19 years w/o sentence.

[@juliojimenez3125]

If you are detained in flagrante delicto (that is, you are caught committing a crime), the initial hearing must take place within the first 48 hours and If the person has been detained without flagrante delicto, the authorities have a maximum period of 72 to present them before a judge. of control at the initial hearing, Link to non-serious crime process maximum 72 hours and if it is serious (such as homicide, kidnapping, etc.), the period of linking to process can be extended up to 144 hours, Duration of the investigation of non-serious crimes up to 6 months and serious crimes up to 2 years, Sentence of 15 to 30 days depending on the crime

[@mexicanpepe4life]

You outsiders have zero clue, so you can't make a fair judgment on what goes on in México. I as a mexican can tell you that we Mexicans have some of the blame because 90% of those people you see protesting and complaining about violence have at least 1 family member who benefits or benefited either directly of indirectly from drug money. So yeah, there's a lot of hypocrisy going on, people stay quiet and actually promote the narco life style for as long as it benefits them, they never complain untill one of their relatives who were in the narco gets kill@d or goes missing. The narco culture is a lifestyle. But the main culprits are the USA govt and it's people, all the guns and weapons used by the cartels are coming from USA and then there's the high drug demand coming from their dysfunctional population that someone needs to fullfill, after all this is a business and a very lucrative one, it actually makes zero sense to not supply that demand.

[@romella_karmey]

But why they flock and immigrate to the US? Cuz no more drug money to support their lifestyle?

[@alexxx7066]

Bruh mexico is EXTREMELY CORRUPT end of story. Same as the whole of latin America extreme corruption and immunity

[@Looey-lu]

Is is to blame!? Na take responsibility. It's your people dealing drugs and.

[@ConKhiMyDen]

@@Looey-lu right? what a clown

[@mexicanpepe4life]

@@romella_karmey your comment shows how ignorant you are, the percentage of Mexicans crossing illegally to the US today is the lowest it has ever been in decades, the majority of illegals today come from South america and other countries, they just cross from Mexico because it's the easiest way. and these popele are looking for jobs and a better life, which means they obviously not narcos.

[@Chance2Explore]

If only they put those resources to the cartels like Bukele in El Salvador. But I know it’s a massive undertaking

[@tyrranicalt-rad6164]

Mess with one bean and you get the whole burrito - old Mexican proverb

[@mikeshelton8920]

This is real close to what happens in the States! You go to jail before trail and do dead time for months, then if convicted you go to prison.

[@RainVillegas-y2g]

Sad but true😢 Tijuana life aint NO JOKE!!!

[@juliojimenez3125]

Submit an amparo, Request release due to excess of a maximum period of 2 years, the law adheres to Article 20 of the Mexican Constitution, Report the delay of the process, Demand compliance with procedural deadlines and Request a review of the case

[@justingreiner6500]

That's so sad !!!

[@nwbklr]

Can’t believe we used to hop over to Tijuana to drink when we were 18 or so. We’d hit up the strip with all the clubs and have such a blast for super cheap. At the end of the night we’d just go back with no problems. Accept the first time…when we thought it was a good idea to take a rental car there. When we concluded our evening and returned to the car, it was up on cinder blocks. 😂 😂 🤦‍♂️

[@migslife9144]

I lived in tj for 15 yrs let me tell you is a city with a shit load of social issues and i hear is getting worst, is a pain in the ass crossing the border and back and forth too much madness for me had to get out. Now with morena in govt will be worse since they ate associated with narcos a narco govt choose by resented and radicalized leftist old people. A sad situation overall.

[@celpaz4584]

Thank you for congratulations this reality

[@Xergecuz]

In Mexico if you don't have a sentence within 1 year you can go to federal court and demand to be freed, when a criminal case takes longer than 1 year its because the defense lawyer is asking for more time to provide evidence, defense lawyers usually do this to charge more. Even so, to be jailed you need to take the criminal to court to an audience called 'audiencia de control' where the district attorney lawyer has to provide proof of the crime being committed, if there isn't enough evidence the case might still continue but the person detained will not be jailed. As a former DA lawyer in the state of Chihuahua I can guarantee you that none of the people in jail are innocent.

[@ChosenOne6666]

I was walking in downtown TJ, the municipal police stopped, search me, took a hundred dollars from my wallet, didnt think I saw it.

[@garycastronova7939]

Yeah they got me too. I have been all over Mexico and the policia municipal have robbed me 6 times now. The last being at the end of October in zona Norte. They just got 45 bucks though. Always policia municipal.

[@ChosenOne6666]

@@garycastronova7939 I was near the ARCH in Tijuana... there is no point in complaining to the embassy.

[@garycastronova7939]

@ChosenOne6666 yea that's where I was too at the dragon rojo bar and they stopped me on the corner going to zona Norte. The same one stopped me the week before but didn't take anything. I told a national guard I was robbed and he told me to record any interaction with police on my phone camera but that's risky. Just hide the majority of your money and give them 200 pesos to keep them happy is all one can do.

[@ChosenOne6666]

@@garycastronova7939 It's considered leakage. You need bribe money

[@cornell833]

😢

[@a.cardenas6636]

The protesters against the Reform at the time, and now into the Constitution, were the very same judges, minister, and staffs of the judicial system. Hopefully with the new election (Jun 2025) of judges, many of these issues will be worked.

[@BOARDMAN16456]

Corruption is Rife

[@kevinvip]

12:44 policia estatal were some of the biggest pigs

[@Crazy--Clown]

Antonio will not be released due to his bad criminal record.

[@JuanReyes-h4g9p]

We need more prison in México.

[@FanOfSabaton]

Crime is evil. 2 Chronicles 12:14 KJV

[@mujahidhussin2118]

This is jungle life not country

[@larrynotuom3232]

Sounds like Washington DC

[@scogator]

Why protect the murders and blurred his faces.

[@juicyjules7409]

😮😢hmm 🤔 wow 💚💔🤕🙏

[@avasco5918]

Let’s start by the US not providing military weapons to the Cartels. With the new Judicial Reform coming in to effect next June/25, the cases are going to start moving at a faster pace.

[@ernestozedillomoreno2758]

Este gobierno debería darle vergüenza que la gente no vea justicia por ningún lado!!!!!

[@Ed-cz6bs]

Ahh corruption in Mexico? who would've thought lol. Remember, if this is your family just do whatever it takes to get him free. It could be money or even less conservative measures.

[@SonnyLopez-m1b]

There's no hotels in TJ & If you flash $$ You will pay most or all of it

[@m0d0avion]

Same thing in the U.S of A

[@nycbankers1427]

The same clowns complaining about justice are the same ones protesting for the state to be tough on crime 🤡🤡🤡

[@axb-dj8nz]

ID LEAVE A COMMENT BUT IM AFRAID THOSE PEOPLE HAVE LONG REACH!

[@lionsoyyymercado7009]

that police lies right in front of the camara , like no one is looking at him he must be one of them, there is a bunch of theme that should be behind bars.

[@deechicago25]

Tiguana 🦎

[@FIRMEISM]

12:10 😂😂😂😂

[@Hearmeout503]

My mom was born in the US but as a child lived in Mexico . But as an adult she moved back to the states and iam sure glad she did because if not i'd probably be stuck in that hell hole of Mexico ! GLADTO BE AN AMERICAN EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE THINK IM FROM MEXICO !

[@ElizRued]

Well.. because you're probably ethnically mexican 😂 the us isnt any better... is one of the top countries with criminals, has massive shootings, a drug cartel selling drugs and other unsafe situations. Just last year I got my car stolen and the police didn't care at all but they see an unarmed black or latino man and feel too threatened so they kill them or try to frame them. Yea u live in paradise. Both usa and mex have good areas and bad.

[@UlisesTheGreat1]

Cheerio

[@LaurieValdez-zk3dy]

😱😱😱🙏🌎🏥⚡️

[@retrogamer4490]

"This is tiquana"

[@alexcarter8807]

That's a common pronunciation. The J pronounced as an "h" but a "hard h". But you need to get down there and tell them they're all wrong and it's pronounced "tia-wanna".

[@romella_karmey]

Should replaced to Drugjuana

[@bclynx6400]

@@romella_karmeydrugs and Tijuana hasn’t fit in since the late 90s…

[@mnblkjh6757]

Narco state🤷🏼‍♂️

[@310grease]

Why is ever Mexicans documentary narrated in a British accent?🤔

[@urwrstntmre]

Dislike for the subtle, yet ever-present political bias. Just couldn't help yourselves, could you? "Journalism"

[@oreliaxo5091]

What was the issue?

[@sopadurso]

Maybe find some tabloid that will always reassure you how right you are. Otherwise grow up.

[@Zynbabwe902]

Oh brother

[@osbaldohernandez9174]

Mexico needs a bukele

[@ElizabethHurtado-py8ur]

🦅🦄🖊️🇲🇽🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇲

[@alexxx7066]

At least you have a woman president 😂 jajajajajaja jajajajajaja viva mexico !!! Jajajajajaja jajajajajaja jajajajajaja 🤣

[@ishrendon6435]

No one caree buddy lol

[@ishrendon6435]

The US hasnt had female president and look how good thata done you got trumo lol

[@bclynx6400]

Also a Jewish sellout

[@matquetzal.8910]

Why documentaries about Mexico when you are from?? Uk? Like always either brithis or anglos with long noses We know our problems we don't need pay off people from over seas to talk about non of their business these documentary do not do justice to no one.

[@matquetzal.8910]

All BS

[@Dagotown]

In America, the cops will watch that ring camera and the guy would've never even got arrested. Mexico is scandalous

[@VicenteCaldera-d2k]

Turn off your hatddrive

[@Sn-wf6gi]

Feral country

[@yingyang8190]

Mexico needs to borrow Trump lol

[@markwarwick1049]

Try to apeal to the new president!

[@shaunarnold499]

F around find out !

[@jpetorres4978]

Why never talk about the goodness of Tijuana ? Only the bad things when it have more good things? As always … boring

[@johnc3473]

Yet they're all so "proud" of that place

[@GeeGee19]

Don't worry people Trump will fix everything 💯💯💯💯💯🎉🎉

[@franceselliott5975]

😂😂😂😂

[@Mopar_logic]

Especially his pockets

[@SiikPros]

Like he did the first time?😊

[@ishrendon6435]

That guy cant fix his hair

[@guerrerogutierrez9689]

Still safer than the states

[@JoseRodriguez-p8u6y]

ES YA NECESARIO QUE EL SISTEMA JUDICIAL SEA REFORMADO COMPLETAMENTE DONDE LA GENTE SEA CONSIDERADA INOCENTE HASTA QUE SE DEMUESTRE SU CULPABILIDAD,SIN COERCION, SIN TORTURA,SIN TEHUACANASOS,O EL 2 POR4 ,YA ES HORA DE CONTRATAR INVESTIGADORES DE VERDAD NO MADRINAS QUE SIEMPRE DETIENEN INOCENTES Y LOS OBLIGAN A CONFESAR DELITOS DE LOS QUE NO SON CULPABLES.

[@jorgepere3982]

The problem is the corrupt police that work for their chief clan leader or Cartel leader not always a cartel. Its really hard cause it might be a cultural System.

[@elpanchosancho2]

America does the samething

[@HernanRuelas-w4n]

This is what happens when United States appetite for drugs is so great

[@jonahcombs451]

How about this is what happens when your culture is so devoid of intellect that people would rather kill each other for money than go to school and create new things

[@JoseRodriguez-p8u6y]

EN MEXICO ERES CULPABLE HASTA COMPROBAR TU INOCENCIA.

[@albertomendoza5142]

La. Presidenta. Claudia De. Mexico. Es. Cartel. Y. Ofia. Los. Mexicanos