Unrestricted Submarine Warfare - Hoi4 MP In A Nutshell

Hearts of Iron 4 MP in a nutshell
(Hearts of iron 4 multiplayer)
Episode 278
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[@ohZeroOne]

"Oh the railway network in India isn't built up", ah, a historical playthrough I see

[@corbindick8943]

raw doggin the supply network like a true india player

[@Goobr27]

British raj>india

[@sawdustconsumer]

the great nepali rail network is also very historical

[@vercot7000]

@@Goobr27 india has more development so no lmao

[@dreamconscience994]

​@@Goobr27que?

[@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic5937]

Irish generals: "What can we do to help the Allies win this war?" That one drunk guy: "I've got just the idea! Let's use our heavy tanks in an amphibious invasion towards the siamese jungle in order to blow up all their dirt roads!" Irish generals: "GENIUS!"

[@michaelkensbock661]

What do you mean, that "one" drunk guy? Are we still talking about the Irish?

[@unolimpico6451]

​@@michaelkensbock661 Truly an Irish moment

[@MegaShiels]

I mean the real take away is it worked so you cant really knock it. its only stupid when it doesn't work

[@ladywaffle2210]

​@@MegaShiels If it's stupid, and it works.... ....it's still stupid, but you're not getting yelled at for it.

[@wingwong186]

​@@ladywaffle2210 as a wise jingles said, if it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid :)

[@winowmak3r]

I can just picture this epic naval battle between two epic capital ship fleets during a massive cyclone.

[@timsellers4946]

It’s the maelstrom battle from the third Pirates of the Caribbean, but the carrier is trying to launch planes at almost 60 degree incline

[@soldiersPL]

Both capitans ordering back of their carriers to be flooded to give planes elevation they need to launch

[@R3GARnator]

Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End moment.

[@KillerBot5100]

@@soldiersPL USS Texas?

[@-caesarian-6078]

With the Americans stalling for time until the Royal navy enters the storm as the third fleet!

[@drekbleh7081]

What if America wanted to protect the free world But India asked "What infrastructure?"

[@Karl_der_Genosse]

Fair Point, I wouldn't call the *British* Raj part of the free world tho

[@datman5518]

Ah yes, America known for protecting the free world and never supporting dictators ever

[@danieldato6213]

@@datman5518 he never said America never supported any dictatorship and the comment was a joke

[@faulergeist4159]

@@danieldato6213 yes, but America bad don'tcha know? lol

[@alect525]

@@Karl_der_Genosse Who ever said the Free World was actually free

[@liladoodle]

Japan: *Says it's impossible to stop an attack on the Raj.* The Allies: "Cowabunga it is!".

[@MyFunnyVids888]

to be fair i feel like golden would've eventually gotten through if germany didn't die in 5 mins of Barbarossa

[@onefastsled]

@@MyFunnyVids888 Nah, he supply was such a shitshow he would’ve attritioned into the ground. NSB really made any combat outside of Europe a disaster unless you can casually drop the entire American industry on it

[@hafor2846]

Thanks Bo, my Mom came in while you were "blasting" all over the Japanese ships and they now think I'm gay.

[@snakeguy8646]

Get gangster on your parents

[@endaburns2121]

You’re not? Cringe

[@justit1074]

@@endaburns2121 kancolle be like:

[@shattershock1234]

Timestamp

[@DaPremier]

Timestamp

[@rick7424]

Building sub 3s has been broken for like two years. Especially the A.I. has no counter. Sub 3s with snorkels sink all Japanese convoys

[@1brianm7]

Two years? Don’t you mean 4 years today.

[@pride2184]

Subs are op as fuck. You want domination of the seas. Its easy as germany to defeat the brits. Just build a shit ton of subs by 42 youll have 600 without noticing.

[@jgrantrichardson3748]

bro as USA all you have to do is active sonar destroyer 2 and the starting carrier, then surface raid japan to the ground

[@esra013]

@@jgrantrichardson3748 And what is your counter to tac bomber/naval bomber

[@MisterFoxton]

All subs has been pretty amazing since release. Right at release 100% destroyers worked well that they could counter it and everything else though.

[@Michaelonyoutub]

Many of the other people in the games also stream their perspectives, it is not just bo. Swimmy, Golden, and College are probably the big of the others who stream.

[@OnlyGrafting]

Redpee does Swimmy stream compilations here on YT

[@Bokoen1]

This is factually true. You can find them on the stream team "BOBG" on my twitch page

[@sasamihajlov2862]

@@Bokoen1 could you start combining the footage so we can see other perspectives in the video or is that just too much work (I am asking seriously not trying to insult)? I’d love to see how Swimmy managed to lose in ‘42.

[@Bokoen1]

@@sasamihajlov2862 Considering the rest of the guys don't record their perspectives, that's gonna be a no. Going through vods are ass

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

@@Bokoen1maybe don’t add some of Swimmy’s stuff (the Breeding kink from the CK3 was to much)

[@despacito_boi4484]

The Dacca brap trap was all planned

[@4realm8rusirius]

Unrestricted Bowel Movements*

[@ColCoal]

1000d chess move. "You can't stop me in these mountain deserts!" >moves everything to mountain deserts >dies from overstacking >"We are now losing Africa"

[@tribblier]

Honestly Japan did actually get game impact, shame Germany didn't capitalise on it

[@ethanyeung6216]

Forcing the entire industry of the Allies to line up on him was pretty based

[@reeseman1932]

I knew it was Golden playing Japan just from the intro. He’s the only one that would brag about something like that

[@snipingflute4346]

It took until I saw how hard Japan pushed into India for me to guess that it was Golden… Well between either Dankus or Golden.

[@ms.megalodon3704]

Japan was larping the maelstrom battle from Pirates of the Caribbean and America was not ready for it. I can just picture Yamamoto on the deck of the Yamato giving the Elizabeth Swann speech.

[@elitely6748]

Bokoen and the gang plus submarines is always going to gurantee chaos and a tad of malding.

[@HDreamer]

not as much as when they debate Paratroopers.

[@pringlesking2748]

A railway through nepal is just an oxymoron... its perfect

[@doctorjackson7024]

*Indian super railway has been named "Trans-Tiberian Railway" by the Allied Construction Corps*

[@TheReal4SkinFinder]

Happy to know the SCP Foundation is keeping track of the real history of the world

[@Ganonmustdie2]

Surprised it was Golden, because goading the entire enemy faction to attack you full force is definitely a Swimmy strat

[@kamiriniko]

I thought it was dankus

[@bierrollerful]

Truly nothing more American than building 10-lane freeways through the Nepal Himalayas.

[@XenoVevo]

Imagine if the Japanese Player did a 6D Chess move by saying that they can't hold India before game, and then just focus on anywhere but India.

[@HDreamer]

Would probably end like that one game, where the JP player invaded the US only to get rolled in Asia.

[@KP-cb4sy]

Wouldn't be surprised; this is Golden we're talking about

[@MajorSkrewup]

took a wrong turn somewhere and ended up sending the invasion force to Indiana

[@derpman116]

I love when the entire Allied force came together to figure out how to do a Mega infrastructure project in India just to save them and it worked

[@nitrocharge2404]

America building an intercontinental railroad? Where have I heard that before?

[@Supercohboy]

5:10 Little does he know that the Siamese tanks have 2 turrets and 2 main guns for twice the firepower.

[@kel000001]

twice the firepower, double the reload

[@molassesman4066]

​@Kelvin Chu as a certain dude overly obsessed with revolvers would say "the reloading is exhilarating!"

[@TravisBroski]

I see the subs and I just get flashbacks to the time that Manchukuo built a whole mess of sub 3s that literally covered the entire world.

[@daddysempaichan]

It's almost poetic how Bo nearly looses his entire navy against the Japanese thanks to a storm.

[@manwhodoesthings]

I've always loved the concept of being a competent navy player, but I hate it in practice.

[@kryzzan7039]

This reminds me of that one game where Manchuria had 100s of subs.

[@zenknight4839]

The moment I see "claimed that it is *impossible* ....", I already know that is golden, because only golden does that 😅

[@Alix8448]

Thanks Bo, your videos always make my day!

[@wetwillyis_1881]

Bokoen1 games are always welcome. I love these just endless chaos one, the best though. This is peak Hoi4, just the boys, hating each other for stupid strats.

[@Otterdisappointment]

The TNO ending for the pacific theater

[@MagicButterz]

A baby kitten dies every time someone listens to Bokoen's voice

[@bruh.mp3214]

Took the fattest doodoo while watching this 💯

[@TonusStoneshield]

Ireland, "I'll blow their infrastructure" UK: *Sweat*

[@therealestsnake]

Man, I love your videos so much. Definitely got to tune into twitch though (preroll ads are gigacringe)

[@prinzoyro6886]

"Before this game Golden claimed..." damn Bo, really going for the low-hanging fruit aren't you? Lol

[@George83_Thomas]

Thanks for the captions

[@allensu9363]

9:04 hey this is historically accurate tho, Japan struggled to counter subs irl

[@glarthir3718]

Seeing USAball eyes even if they are covered by shades is cursed

[@Universe2]

alright i like the fact you had to screen record the vod channel for parts of the video

[@stratical]

They got us in the first half not gonna lie - Random US admiral

[@justalex2.0]

Today is a good day when more bokoen memes get made

[@Gdsryrox]

The American and British navy double teaming the Japanese was glorious

[@ChouanB]

It's been a while since I havn't heard one of you use one of your famous "what do you meaaaaaaaaaaan"

[@ComfortsSpecter]

When-You-when-You-when-You don’t Protect your Logistics:

[@taptiotrevizo9415]

This sounds like a golden or swimmy Japan

[@nothuman3083]

Best birthday gift ever

[@jerrycoob4750]

Ah yes, I remember being taught how the Americans almost lost Hawaii because they were too busy focusing on the _Burma theatre._

[@trapical]

"The streams are usually in the evening..." > Doesn't even mention what relevant time zone, to his global audience (lol) (I assume Denmark time, but still)

[@OnlyGrafting]

When he's mentioned the days for video uploads in the past it's always been ridiculous o' clock in Europe. Like his second Viccy 3 game he said would come out on a certain day but in Europe the date had already switched and for the East coast it was the right time. Edit: for his actual streaming when he says evening it's probably from like 6pm GMT until 2am GMT

[@bushboy1163]

That naval battle reminds me of why Japan is called the land of the rising sun or something like that. SO basically The mongols tried to invade japan with a massive navy but a humungous storm stopped them much like the storm killed most of Bos navy

[@fede98k54]

Starting by stating I'm not an expert, as far as I know rhe storm that you teference which hinderee the mongolian invasions twice was the Divine Wind, the Kamikaze. Land of the Rising Sun comes from China instead, as Japan is to the east of China and thus the sun would rise from there in their point of view. Japan was then largely influenced by China culturally during its early history and they adopted the name, Nihon, which is Japan in Japanese, and from which our Nippon comes from.

[@octopusguy5648]

Golden lost

[@alphanoodle1877]

I just want to see one where bo looses hard as the allies

[@gabrielstor1185]

Romania ball needs some headwear

[@max_me_is]

Ah yes, Bo's only weakness, rain

[@ZenexTheZealous]

0:00 ITS railways, not it's railways. The idea that "India hadn't built up it is railways" makes no sense. Maybe I've been jabaited.

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

I thought this would be a sequel to the game where Flowjoe said that Sub 3’s ain’t broken and Bo gets payback now. This is still good though

[@Strraawberry]

bread sticks

[@poudmajikk]

bread sticks

[@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714]

Underseas blocade.

[@battlefieldandcodarefun1020]

bo saving the frontline? no way.

[@oliversherman2414]

This is hilarious 😂😆

[@erichluepke855]

Japanese admirals after WW2: USA did a sub strat that was gigacringe

[@JavierSanchez-zq9pc]

Good Night guys

[@gammelfleisch5433]

good night

[@despacito_boi4484]

Sweet dreams

[@rajathapa87]

As a Nepali - Appreciate the superhighway the Americans built here it’s quite nice to go on and look at the mountains

[@ZapatoWey]

My eye

[@candiman4243]

This is actually just historically what the US did to Japan with their subs, only in real life it only started in 1943 or so because the US torpedos didn't work to start off with. If the bureau of ordinance weren't idiots. By 1944 in real life, subs had destroyed more than half the japanese merchant capacity despite the slow start

[@forniteisbad9450]

"Its better than modern American infrastructure" So not a high bar

[@Gtfotrain]

its Joever........ but we're back

[@omegaalpha-th8mf]

what if during midway all the planes just got sucked up into a hurricane but the British navy rocked up

[@leonardolopez9659]

Where is his channel trailer on twitch? I can’t find it?

[@SebHaarfagre]

Are scout planes + naval bombers not working or have you just not used them yet against subs??? If you improve them healthily they'll absolutely wreck any and all seaborne units not protected by fighters. Especially subs cause they have about no AA and scout planes /and specifically designed DDs late war, will find them, even snorkel ones. Or, designate more (designed) escorts, I guess. Scouts + naval bombers is nice though.

[@Psytinker]

Well, they're playing a mod that significantly buffed BBs and other big ships, so they're content with being fanboys of those paperweights and just bitch about the ships that made their favourite boats obsolete. Name one BB in WW2 that didn't die like a bitch.

[@dingledonk8027]

George Washington has known family ties to Albanian nobles. it is time for ppl to recognize the Albanian Washington dynasty

[@gpjedy7379]

This is very benefishial

[@RandomAutist]

I cant believe it, a Bo's USA HoI4 video only focusing on India, that's hilarious.

[@deathdrone6988]

Yo, is it Menulog or Just Eat, these commercials are confusing as hell!

[@TheRomanPraetor]

does anybody know the SFX mod that bo uses?

[@felipea1399]

We need more Victoria

[@felipescheuermann1736]

Historic play, discoordinated axis beaten one by one by allies. Tho i dont see the point playing navy as axis... theres no chance at all

[@supercool1312]

yay

[@theeternalsuperstar3773]

Are those new Countryballs? If so, they're nice.

[@polarvortex6496]

Realistic. US Navy says Japan doesnt get to have nice things. However, IRL we had 263 submarines, not 200.

[@CommanderTavos99]

Bo still doesnt know about CTRL+B? =D

[@impatientsamurai6202]

Wooooo!

[@acatwithwiskers9273]

Hey I saw this one live

[@tylertripsanddies8768]

Victoria 3 when

[@sacia4339]

You need ships in patrol to sink subs consistently, but he put all his ships in the same stack. Bad choice! What is funny is that I rarely see a Japan convoy raiding the USA and UK.

[@vayion]

What is he supposed to do with his main Fleet against submarines? It is not an Anti Submarine Fleet, but a Battle Fleet, it wont do anything against Submarines. In MP you build a Destroyer Based Fleet against subs, splitting your main navy up will just result in it getting defeated in detail. Golden played that one brilliantly in my opinion, he may not have won, but he occupied both the US and UK navy and kept almost all allied tanks away from africa. The USA had like no military factories and could not focus on europe for very long.

[@sacia4339]

@@vayion The purpose of the Navy is not only to destroy the enemy ships. You can cut the trade of your enemies, which is a lot more damaging in the long run, while keeping your trade routes safe. (As an example) He put all his eggs in the same basket and couldn't do anything about the enemy subs. That doesn't mean he played bad, but we can see that in MP, people are addicted to death stacks.

[@vayion]

@@sacia4339 But navies in hoi4 do not work like they do in real life. Also again, the ships he had were of no use to hunt down submarines, they were not built to kill those, they were just screening ships for the main navy. Yes, in reality a deathstack of a navy would be something really, really stupid, but in Hearts of Iron you pretty much have no concessions for using a death stack. Naval Supremacy isn't affected by having them in one fleet, and it basically ensures you have enough damage to take out every enemy fleet (if they do not deathstack) I don't know the exact video, but I am remembering one particular video where Bo just kills the Japanese fleet in a matter of minutes, as they split up their navy and bo did not. In MP you have 1 main navy. And to name one proper example in the video, in "Wolverines!" Bo literally waits right till he kills the Italian navy to split up his fleet. He had twice the heavy attack with his deathstack, but only splitting his navy once could have killed it with land based aircraft deployed by the axis. Is that how the game should be? Probably not. But making a reality based naval combat is difficult and also kinda uninteresting as you have the benefit of hindsight, which would everyone just build carriers in a realistic combat system. But basically to come back to the initial point. Golden did not put sonars or depth charges on his battle fleet destroyers. They would have done nothing against submarines. Splitting his main navy up would also not have helped, as the US Fleet could have sniped those small fleets. The thing which he should have done is build more dedicated light cruisers and destroyers against submarines, deploy them with planes as cover and use the main navy to project protection onto those. That is how you end up dealing with subs

[@sacia4339]

​@@vayion Maybe they were playing a old mod, and that's why this strategy. About death stacks, you should take a look in the Dev Dairies. Naval Warfare changed a lot recently. Now, Surface Raiders are a viable strategy. Some in the Forum, even, considere them OP because of their speed (they can kill everything and leave before the main enemy force arrives). About the initial DDs of Japan. You don't need sonar or depth charges to escort your convoys, because every DD has 1 of depth charges damage. Some KZbin Channels already tested and confirmed it. They are only needed in Patrol (doing ASW). If you have NAV together with whatever DD available, you can erase any submarine threat while reducing the risk of losing your convoys.

[@masterofbalence2723]

GOLDEN LOST

[@thescotishclonetrooperecho7773]

bruh moment

[@llamaboxx]

Golden Lost

[@poposk9024]

Don't you overstack carriers when you have 4 of them? Is this a mod feature or something? Cause they just had 12 of them, and didn't overstack.

[@theultimatepielord8697]

...you put the part about twitch in to get the video to 10 minutes, didn't you?

[@mrengerland943]

the indian infrastructure being incomplete is so chicken game

[@morgannielsen2516]

DENMARK

[@fahimfaisal5507]

I am so happy that my country's capital is so important for the allied operations in asia.....and just to let you know its british fault to call it dacca but its actually called dhaka...

[@bruh5912]

Bo getting gangster on goldens fleet.

[@zach6210]

Hi bo

[@createrz8433]

I will give bokoen1 1k dollars to bring back sub 3's

[@Dovoline3]

I've given up trying to understand game balance in HOI4. I don't understand how you can have a situation where the British lose all of Africa, the Americans lose Pearl Harbor, and the Royal Navy isn't even in Europe, Italy is presumably never invaded, and the Allies still somehow win like two years earlier than they did IRL.

[@dse763]

Bokoen and Cie use a custom multiplayer mod they made themselves. Don't know how it change balance since it's a multiplayer mod only so I can't test myself.

[@MajorSkrewup]

its because the soviet union mobolized the entire economy of Tannu Tuva and aimed it at the Germans that Europe didn't need allied intervention.

[@sprontky6853]

PENHIS1

[@cookiecraze1310]

I thought Sub-3's were banned?

[@pride2184]

You only need 20 dockyards on subs and youll pump em out. Subs take like 4 months to build with 20 on it youll have a shit ton by 42. I do it i. My mp as germany by sea lion i out number the brits just by subs