We try to remove the piston on a seized Antique Hit and Miss Headless Witte Engine Please consider supporting us on Patreon / 805roadking
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@aleblanc35477 жыл бұрын
I sure love it when guys are smarter than their tools. Thanks Roadking.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!!☺
@gooseknack7 жыл бұрын
Great find! She'll move, ventually! Mikes idea is pretty sound. Either that, or 2 to 4 weeks of wd40 twice a day.. or both! Had a small 2 stroke, a 125cc, with the same problem some 20 years back.. Had surface rust all the way down the bore.. didn't think the piston would ever move. It did, with the help of a block of wood and some gentle persuasion with a hammer... :-P
@gooseknack7 жыл бұрын
*eventually.. I never make spelling mistakes, nor leave letter out.. never!. :-P
@WillsGarage917 жыл бұрын
Mike is the small engine master! You guys will get it going I know!
@shawnmrfixitlee64787 жыл бұрын
You guys will get it , Mike know's his engine stuff .. Thumbs up King !
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!!☺
@Mopardude7 жыл бұрын
Always something interesting you guys got going on!
@BP-li9tv7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video RK, can't wait for the follow ups! Cheers
@TagsGarageAZ3 жыл бұрын
Crankshaft seems to be worth fixing if you have already been searching for 2 years. I just had a crank shaft from my McCormick welded. It was cracked in the same spot and the machine shop charged me 120 to weld, machine, and heat straighten
@JPanyon7 жыл бұрын
I think it would be a lot easier to fit up a plate with a grease nipple, then pump it with a grease gun and turning that cylinder into a high pressure hydraulic ram. If this fails, you still have the option of switching to high pressure air which is harder to control safely.
@mirodeogrl7 жыл бұрын
This is going to to be interesting to watch Buddy.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
It should be Buddy!!☺
@not2fast4u2c7 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be interesting to see what it takes to get it out ....I would put a come-a-long or something on the rod to pull on it and keep pressure on it as it is soaking
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is gonna be a tough one Buddy!!☺
@chuckhaynes64587 жыл бұрын
Just saw the M series Studebaker truck.....love it.
@TheShadeTreeFixitMan7 жыл бұрын
Should be another fun project. You guys are like me with lots of irons in the fire.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!! Ya get bored of one, just move on to another!!☺
@cougar1972xr77 жыл бұрын
I have used a grease gun to unstick a lot of engines works like a charm most of the time fun fun
@daheick7 жыл бұрын
Just put the head back on, Make sure the valves are closed and that they seal. Then hook a hydraulic line to a tractor or wood splitter into the spark plug hole.
@krazziee20007 жыл бұрын
cool video, thanks
@SlickTrickRC7 жыл бұрын
ill never forget that engine. a doosey. 👍
@seriesioo3747 жыл бұрын
cant wait for the next vid thanks guys
@coolrides7 жыл бұрын
Very appropriate for Halloween....working on a headless engine! :D Jack
@or-what7 жыл бұрын
Jack R haha lol
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Lol!! We couldn't have planned that better!!☺
@eldonbooth562610 ай бұрын
Fit up a plate with a grease nipple works every time and much safer than air
@ziggassedup7 жыл бұрын
Interesting predicament RK..I was thinking a shit load of boiling water in the water hopper and some dry ice in the piston...Interesting to see what you guys come up with.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Interesting Zig!! Never thought about Dry Ice in the piston!!☺
@chuckhaynes64587 жыл бұрын
J-12Y Champion. 283-327 Chevy.
@regsparkes65077 жыл бұрын
A bit of a job ahead of you, but I have faith in your ability to overcome this. It'll be good to see the 'part 2' of this.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a tough one Bud!!☺
@waynecreech7 жыл бұрын
I've had some success with vinegar soaking to break down rust and crud in stuck engines... May be worth a shot..
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
It's tough to get anything to soak the way this engine is set up, it's pretty unique!! This is gonna be a tough one!!☺
@allenmckinney95337 жыл бұрын
I'd spray a can of pb blaster in it, put a wood board on the side of the cylinder and hit the board with a air hammer using a blunt chisel. the shock should break it loose.
@RamblinAround7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff guys...I know you'll get it fixed up.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! I think this is gonna be a tough one!!☺
@raymondjludka70017 жыл бұрын
She's an oldie,,, Lets hope you can get it freed up!
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray!! This is gonna be a tough one!!☺
@dans_Learning_Curve7 жыл бұрын
Something to keep in mind. That piston didn't get stuck overnight. It's going to take a bit to get it moving again.
@jeep20037 жыл бұрын
big ol piston on that thing! Sounds like a good plan but i think i woulda left the crank and flywheels on would be easier to work it back and forth. Im sure youll get it. I was thinking you guys should build an open crank briggs I saw one at a show it was really cool I can send some pics if you want. Id build one myself but Iron briggs dont come my way too often
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
I sent you a PM Bud!! The Flywheels were in the way, they're easy enough to put back on once we break it loose!!☺
@bexpot77927 жыл бұрын
jeep2003 Stuart steam engine
@BAGOTCORNER7 жыл бұрын
I was thinkin ,,, how about JB weld on that crank ? Or duct tape ,,, the good stuff ! 😊
@davidschaadt34602 жыл бұрын
Patience is a virtue with frozen stuff .try warm to hotter water some people put charcoal in the water hopper and lit it .
@davidschaadt34602 жыл бұрын
I would soak with liquid wrench or automatic tranny fluid .
@davebilldavebill9617 жыл бұрын
I love your videos
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot Bud!!☺
@ParadoxdesignsOrg7 жыл бұрын
That spark plugs still perfectly good! save it! :D
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
We'll send it to ya Bud!!☺
@Lowry77247 жыл бұрын
100psi will yield approximately 11,300 pounds of force. Definitely use oil not compressed air. Oil will be much safer.
@yourbeekeeper7 жыл бұрын
This will be interesting!!!!!!
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is gonna be a tough one Buddy!!☺
@CraigArndt7 жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy, you're gonna think of a way to get that piston out!🤓👍👍
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be tough but we'll figure it out!!☺
@superiormusic7 жыл бұрын
A piston of diameter 6 inches under 150 psi of pressure is equal to a force of 1.88 metric tons.
@Not_Loading7 жыл бұрын
wow a powerful 6 horsepower
@huck019557 жыл бұрын
Im sure you will get it and save anther cool pice of history
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
We're gonna do our best Mate!!☺
@jbmbanter7 жыл бұрын
In your efforts to get the piston to move, could you put the cap back on the rod and take a piece of oak, place it in the rod hole and try a little twisting too? It's easy to sit here and quarterback on my keyboard. :) It was just a thought.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Nah that would just twist the Rod but thanks for trying to help Bud!!☺
@skulledmonte847 жыл бұрын
cool i'll be watching this one :)
@JoshKilen7 жыл бұрын
nice job
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!!☺
@watermanone75677 жыл бұрын
Hi: Great Video's, A good machinist like Keith Fenner, or Adam Booth (both on YOU Tube)can deep grove out and Heli Arc the crack and also cut out the rusted on the shaft on a lathe and spray weld the surfaces like new. Please don't give up on that engine. Thanks
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
We already looked into that, it's just not cost effective to fix that crank or build a new one!!☺
@marshallman1au7 жыл бұрын
:(
@KowboyUSA7 жыл бұрын
She's a beauty.
@kurtjakins63967 жыл бұрын
thanks for another awesome video :)
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Bud!!☺
@MelMelx3656 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching part 5.
@805ROADKING6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mel!! Hope you enjoyed it Bud!!☺
@victorbitter5837 жыл бұрын
Chuck a stick of jelly in there lol. Nice motor. Wurth Rostoff ICE+ will free it up. Got a 3/4" drive rattle gun?cheers.
@KennethScharf7 жыл бұрын
why not rig up a hoist or a jack to pull on the connecting rod to yank the piston out?
@rickster44557 жыл бұрын
pi times radius squared = area of a circle
@TonyFleetwood7 жыл бұрын
flood the combustion chamber with rustmort?
@alexpowers36976 жыл бұрын
Could you just use the plug on the end and seal the side for intro of hydraulic pressure? Cool project.
@805ROADKING6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would have been the ideal situation but the plug was rusted worse than the piston!!☺
@Jim-ie6uf7 жыл бұрын
I think I was the first to watch. this will be interesting
@Hockey47Mitsch7 жыл бұрын
Nice! Should run pretty good when it's done
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Yeah the rest of it seems to be in good shape!!☺
@leadpelletinass7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this a bit. How expensive could it be to have a sand cast made of the cracked crankshaft, Make the bearing surfaces a bit larger for machining later and melt the old crank to pour a new one? I'm not familiar with foundries and pouring but you would essentially be recycling the crank material to make a new one thus getting the engine working again. Might be something for you guys to look into.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
We looked into it long ago, it would cost about 3 grand!!☺
@leadpelletinass7 жыл бұрын
:( YIKES! Too much. Thank You for the reply.
@creamofcardstv7 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you'll tame it in no time at all :)
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
I don't know Mate!! This is gonna be a tough one!!☺
@christophergrimes127 жыл бұрын
To unseize that engine you put boiling hot oil into the cylinder and that should unseize it
@363bigbri7 жыл бұрын
can you take the plug out and use air to push the piston out
@forneyantiquepower46887 жыл бұрын
It would be better to use oil and a grease gun like mentioned in the video. Since air compresses, you need a lot more volume to make the same pressure. It is also safer to use a liquid, the same way boilers are hydro tested. Since the liquid (oil) doesn't compress, it takes less volume to make the pressure. And for safety reasons, if there happens to be a weak spot in the cast that breaks under pressure, the oil and grease will cause damage more like a freeze crack to an engine block instead of an explosion of compressed gas like a steam boiler exploding.
@TheFurriestOne7 жыл бұрын
Well, if Mike's worried about bursting the cylinder, why not hydro-lock the water jacket too? I'm sure you'll get it somehow! Is honing those headless ones a bit tricky too?
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Nah, Honing is no problem once ya get the piston out!!☺
@TheFurriestOne7 жыл бұрын
805ROADKING Good to hear!
@Paulman507 жыл бұрын
fill the cylinder with oil and presurise it with a grease gun
@BangAsoursRex7 жыл бұрын
just wire wheel that spark plug and throw it in a Briggs lol jk
@melchristian8876 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@41Zman7 жыл бұрын
bbq time
@ShawnCFarm7 жыл бұрын
Must be stuck bad
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Yeah Buddy!!☺
@christophergoodman87207 жыл бұрын
Aluma Brite will unseize a engine in minutes .
@stevengrotte29877 жыл бұрын
You might want to take a look at "Old Time Steam Powered Machine Shop" on the internet he could probably make you a new crankshaft for your older engine, hope I any exactly right on the name, may be off a little.
@stevengrotte29877 жыл бұрын
I checked, the right name is "Old Steam Powered Machine Shop" I believe he can make anything.
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Getting a new crank made is no problem, any machine shop will make it!! The problem is they want 5-6 times what the running engine is worth!!☺
@marshallman1au7 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the 3D printing on Leno's garage RK ..... They scan the object then CNC ..... That's the way restoration will go in the future ..... :)
@baggd657 жыл бұрын
What did your buddy Rob say about that crank? I can fix that. And he can. HaHa
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Yeah That's the first place we took it!! It's just way too expensive to fix or make a new one!!☺
@stephenwallbank6157 жыл бұрын
What cars has John got?
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
1930 Oakland and a 1953 Studebaker Stakebody with 30K miles on it!!☺
@combatmedic19807 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, try this SUPER penetrating , rust busting solution, you can make cheap. mix 50/50 acetone and any type ATF and shake it up and put that in the cyl or around the skirts and then see what happens
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
I've used that before, it's tough to get anything around the piston the way this is designed!!☺
@combatmedic19807 жыл бұрын
I was thinking to put it on the backside instead of pushing it out with grease, it should flow around the piston
@dans_Learning_Curve7 жыл бұрын
Used this caluclator for a 6" cylinder with 150 PSI put on it = 4241 LBS www.baumhydraulics.com/calculators/cyl_calc.htm
@rw3dog7 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see that grease zerk. I am going to try that on my Stozer KA like you told me to do. I have a video that has a 6hp headless Witte in it. It sounds so nice. Check this out around 3:30 kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4S2ZY1qpciZjNU
@805ROADKING7 жыл бұрын
Make sure you film the Stover, should be interesting!!☺