Come Follow Me - Alma 17-22 (part 2): "Nevertheless I Believe"

Part 2 of a 3-part verse-by-verse study of Alma 17-22, which recounts the mission of the sons of Mosiah among the Lamanites. Part 2 covers Alma 18-19 and examines outer power vs. inner attributes; Creation, Fall, Atonement; women of faith; and principles related to missionary work. Join Jared Halverson for your weekly Come Follow Me study of the Book of Mormon!
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[@karenrasmussen4916]

Thank you, so much, for your amazing lessons, for sharing your time and talents with so many of us!

[@Unshaken]

You're so welcome. Eager students is a teacher's dream. Thanks for letting me be a part of your scripture study!

[@jodavedavies6815]

Please keep up with the lessons. I love the presentations

[@Unshaken]

I'll do my best!

[@dermotrichardsheils4971]

I like how king Lamoni, in the act of pleading for forgiveness remembered his people and asked mercy for them also.

[@Unshaken]

Great point! Amazing that someone who used to slay servants without hesitation became so focused on their eternal welfare. A great example of what true conversion does!

[@drkristidiaz]

I am enjoying learning and listening to you so much! Thank you for doing this and sharing your experiences and talents. I will go back and get the ones I missed. Thanks for the recommendation of which ones to start with. This is helping me feast upon the words for sure!

[@Unshaken]

Good to hear it! The Book of Mormon is so full of powerful principles. I just want the world to know about it! Thanks for helping to spread the word!

[@cdmalchusable]

The girls and I can't stop chuckling about the scenario where Lamoni in essence passes out after he's converted....and Ammon doesn't bother to say "Hey, it's all good, I've seen this before..... it happens sometimes... he'll be ok..... DON'T BURY HIM!"

[@KylieMalchusArt]

Ammon just leaves 😅😅😅

[@cdmalchusable]

😂🤣😅

[@Unshaken]

Haha! I guess some things are best left for people to learn for themselves :) I miss you guys!

[@KylieMalchusArt]

@@Unshaken We miss you too!

[@IzzaboeWinters]

Question raised by someone: Alma 19:16, it doesn't say which father, could it be her Father, rather than her father?

[@Unshaken]

Oooohh! What an awesome insight! Love that. Definitely a possibility, and a beautiful one at that. Thanks!

[@harmonywoodrome9911]

Thank you so much!😍👏

[@Unshaken]

My pleasure! Thanks for letting me be a part of your scripture study!

[@messymusings1812]

I watched a CFM on this lesson from the Book of Mormon Central. They mentioned that her name might give a clue with the Hebrew meaning. Ab = father (as in Abba, or Heavenly Father) - and ish = a man. So her name could be interpreted as "God is a man". So the vision of her father - might be a vision she had. Either of her earthly father - or perhaps she had a vision of God the Father (her own sacred grove experience). I've always found it to be fairly ambiguous what it says here. Did her father have a vision, which long ago converted her? Or did she have a vision of her earthly father? Or did she have her own vision of God the Father? It doesn't matter - only that she was righteous and tried to tell others of the great thing which had happened to the king!

[@Unshaken]

I LOVE this! Thank you for sharing. What beautiful possibilities. Such a heavenly vision would definitely keep you strong, even while surrounded by unbelievers. Abish was amazing.

[@rutht2023]

I wrote a comment with somewhat the same idea. Then I saw you had written this one. Great minds.... :)

[@rutht2023]

While the vision could have been had by Abish's father, the wording isn't exactly clear. It could have been Abish that had the vision and she saw her father in the vision. I know of at least three instances of dead family members visiting someone on earth.

[@craignorton7070]

My sweet mother doesn't like your statement, "Do you have the guts to ask him this?" So I asked her what you could have said and she said. "Do you have the love to ask him this."

[@Skarecrow1949]

What are your thoughts about verse 23: And thus he was caught with guile. Something seems contrary in that verse.

[@tricey411]

I too have wondered at this verse for years. I was confused thinking Lamoni was saying he'd believe but really in his heart he wouldn't, which didn't fit with how he DID believe. This is what I found in my study today: "The statement “and thus he was caught with guile” does not sound very righteous. It sounds as though Lamoni was being tricked. That was certainly not the intent. The intent was to elicit a covenant and to commit the king to an action in exchange for information. On Ammon’s part, it was a commitment to teach about Jehovah, whose inspiration led to Ammon’s understanding Lamoni’s thoughts. For the king, it was a commitment to take the explanation seriously, and to believe. While the “guile” might be that Ammon did not tell the secret before getting a commitment, it was nevertheless an important action, for it required the king to allow what Ammon said to touch him, and to change him. King Lamoni was “caught” in the sense that he was committed before truly understanding what the commitment would entail." --Book of Mormon Minute, Brant Gardner, Scripture Plus app (Book of Mormon Central) “Notice the details of Ammon’s teaching approach. He was-as every missionary should be-‘wise, yet harmless’ (compare Matthew 10:16). Ammon served the king well. He had a spirit about him that the king had never seen or felt before. The king was ready to listen to Ammon, and Ammon knew it, so he boldly committed him to listen and believe his words. ‘And thus he was caught with guile’; in other words, Ammon had the king right where he wanted him. The Spanish translation of the phrase reads ‘asi ingeniosamente lo comprometio’: ‘and in that way he ingeniously committed him’” Ogden, D. Kelly, and Andrew C. Skinner. Verse by Verse: The Book of Mormon. Salt Lake City, UT: Deseret Book, 2011, 1:424-425

[@Skarecrow1949]

Patrice Read Thanks!

[@Unshaken]

Great question and great comments! Thanks for sharing!