Unusual Stacked Leather Setting Hammer Restoration

[@tomt9543]

I retired from Norfolk Southern Railway in 2020 after a 41 year career as a certified welder in the mechanical department. When I hit the 40 year mark, they handed me a cheap Chinese pocket watch complete with a large sticker on the front that verified “made in China”. No pomp and circumstance, just a dollar store watch ! On my last day of work, the division manager slid his office window open that overlooked the shop from the second story, yelled my name, and said “thanks”, and shut the window! I had been their “go to” guy for many years, and was on very good terms with management. I’d hate to see what the slackers get when they leave!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Tom- The best years of our life are spent at our jobs, the only reward we seek is recognition for our years of service so we don’t carry that bad taste in our mouth for the remainder of our lives. Some companies just don’t get that. Thanks…

[@E-Glide]

That's really sad, Tom. I would have thrown that watch in the nearest trash can right then and there. As far as the slacker employee....probably get the exact same treatment. I've seen it first hand ☹

[@shanester366]

For Christmas one year our company gave us those cheap flashlights harbor freight gives away. Most guys just threw them away. Most people who retire at our company don't even make till the end, they will come out and send them home so they won't steal 😕. But often we will go out after work and give them a proper send off

[@CivilizedWarrior]

Yeah, all these companies are Jackoff Smirnoffs nowadays. But I guess since they don’t take pride in THEIR “work,” somebody has to right? Might as well be the guys doing the actual work. I’ve had enough of asshat companies and d*ck bosses to last me the rest of my days! Precisely the reason I’m trying to start my own business. I figure if I have to work for a d*ck, I might as well work for myself, and if I’m gonna let a d*ck boss me around, it might as well be my own! Lol. Wishing you a peaceful and relaxing retirement. Sounds like you’ve earned it bud.

[@tomt9543]

@@CivilizedWarrior Thanks!

[@joeheilm]

Wow, that hot wax did the trick. It amazes me that they made those leather handles....in a 1,000 years i would never think that leather would work so well or look so nice. Great stuff. Cheers

[@CivilizedWarrior]

Yeah, they are beautiful. I think they started using them on knives first (like the WW2 era Ka-Bars) so it makes sense applying it to hammers and axes too. I reach for the old leather handled ones over old wood or the newer rubber handles any day. They look better, feel better, and hold up better too. They just don’t make em like they used to, that’s for sure.

[@OldSneelock]

Retirement....... Ah what a feeling. I got asked to stay on but I said two open heart surgeries and I'm pushing it just sitting here. My son worked for the same company. We both wrote work instructions and quality procedures. Good place to work and he did a great job. Just before I retired, he got laid off. Right after I retired, he got rehired. Sometimes it just works out right. 😁😆

[@dainsmart6237]

It took 4 hours of your time,a good time not to worry About anything such a good hobby I like watching your show because it gives me a break from reality you cant beat watching channel's that fix, refurbish, restore and make things,this is one of the best channels on KZbin. Thank you for your time 👍🏻♥️🇬🇧

[@krishoogstraat6866]

That is one of THE MOST BEAUTIFUL Hammers I have ever seen!!!! John I Love hammers and you hit a Grand Slam with this one !!!!!!

[@toolrestoration]

Wow John what a finish , who d have thought it could come out like that ... That handle was worse to start with than my old boots last Sunday .....lovely Job

[@michaelowens7151]

Beautiful work on the hammer, and the leather just gives it a special look; any tool with a handle like that says “we cared enough to make it something special”. And for Tom and other subscribers who’ve toiled for years at jobs they may or may not have enjoyed, take heart in knowing you did them maybe where others would not and developed a sense of pride in work well done. These are rare traits in todays workforce where there is little to no loyalty for the employer, or any semblance of work ethic once employed. No mystery at all why folks flock here in search of something better.

[@johnkelley9877]

Compared to the new hammer in the photo I am amazed at how your restoration makes it look like the new one! I agree that the wax is a much better technique than a clear coat. Thanks for sharing this.

[@andyc972]

You crack me up with your file reference, we have an expression here in the uk - built like a "brick sh*t house" (💩) this is how my "kids" describe me and we are of a similar stature ! 😉😁 That hammer to me represents what you espouse, first you understatedly demonstrate great skill in refining the steel of an uncompromising forging with a flap disk and basic sander, and then you demonstrate a superior yet accessible finish to the leather that can easily be maintained over time - awesome, thanks for this as always ! Also, the flag is looking great, softening up nicely, and fluttering beautifully, takes me back to my scouting days !

[@kevinbreckenridge6729]

We have that reference also, I've known a few!

[@57WillysCJ]

That leather turned out nice. You know it has been a long time since I heard of a company doing anything for a guy retiring. Sometimes a foreman would kick in but mostly it was coworkers. We chipped in for the cake and gifts. I do remember some of the old timers hating the supervisors coming out for cake. Can't blame them, they always showed up for credit.

[@tomdale1313]

"Snoop", well tanks for sharing... May God Bless Your Home a oasis / ark for so many in these trying times...with the passing of the, "Greatest Generation" goes to many of those traditions such as retirement parties

[@frankg3072]

Great restoration as always, the handle was awesome! 👍👍

[@jameskelly1680]

Doing a varnish dip would have taken 5 minutes, but you ended up with a far superior finish in 4 hours. Well worth it. I like that it can be maintained in the future without having to sand down and refinish the entire handle. Very smart.

[@nicknicoletti9778]

I was laughing so hard at your retirement story. A guy that works with us through a contract retired recently and he did like 30 years. And his company same thing. Nothing… turn I your truck and keys. And basically good luck. No pizza no nothing. But we threw him a last day lunch pizza party. Unreal these huge companies . And what a great looking hammer. Amazing what that wax does.

[@kentonlord5986]

You need to write a book. Not how to restore a hammer or pliers but how to restore metal, wood, plastic or leather. Use some photos of projects like this one for leather talking about the soft wax before switching to a harder wax and don't forget the heat. I would buy that in a heart beat.

[@larrynelson734]

Great video again. You always amaze me with your knowledge. I think my age will show. But I just love leather handel tools. You made that one really great love it. See you again on Friday..👍👍❤..

[@williamcarroll3807]

32 years of service wow thank you. My Grandfather was a lifelong TWU 100 member started in 1947 retired in 1983 he was a motorman on the #4 IRT.

[@ScoutCrafter]

William it was the guys like your Grandfather who put his livelihood on the line over and over again so that we can have the union benefits we have today. He is a true hero- Those old timers worked in harsh conditions and in all weather 24/7. I have great respect for those guys before me. Thanks!!!!!

[@planejet42]

I was going to say, you used to get tokens of appreciation from your employer. I collect vintage wristwatches as well. I love the engraved ones commending employees for their service. Like a gorgeous Hamilton watch for 10 years of service. My dad worked somewhere for 25 years and all he got was a plastic clock made in China.

[@357magdad]

Thanks for the shout out! I read that Johnson's Paste wax has been discontinued!

[@wayneo7307]

Yup . Last Year Magdad.Thats Why I Kept Looking at the Flea Market and Finally Got the Bowling Alley Carnauba Paste Wax.

[@gregred78]

That looks like a Malco Sheet metal hammer. I used to use one when I did a lot of metal work.

[@jameshelm1462]

That's what it is.been using one for 30 years.

[@pietervanderwesthuizen2319]

Thank you for not removing the handle and replacing it wit horrible looking wood. Well done.

[@lv_woodturner3899]

I have used a wrench on a square shank screwdriver for some stubborn screws. I do not recall twisting the blade, but I can imagine how easy this can happen. The hammer looks terrific. Another benefit of the wax is being able to easily re-apply if the leather gets dried out over time. Well done. Dave.

[@LoStivale]

Who doesn’t love a good pizza party? I could go for a slice right now. The hammer came out great.

[@mrbenmall]

Beautiful restoration. Thanks for the video!

[@papa-hu8lq]

Great job, the hammer came out beautiful. Thanks for the hot wax tip, can't wait to try it.

[@cheekymonkey444]

I retired after 35 years on the railroad. They traditionally gave you a gold watch and threw a feed. I got a golf towel, a stainless coffee mug and was shown the door. There too I had to turn in my ID and switch keys. As I passed the dumpster I tossed the mug and towel. Shows you how they appreciated an employee that never was injured on the job. But management retirees got the gold watch, big banquet, and the works.

[@ScoutCrafter]

That’s why working for a private company can be so rewarding, being appreciated is such a wonderful feeling. Appreciated workers also have less sick days and work harder. 😃👍

[@lordvengerx]

That handle really cleaned up nicely. The hammer came out looking just like it left the factory

[@kadmaster]

Nice hammer as always...sir... Never doubt for restoration...

[@nationaldeath4029]

I seem to always find a way to break tools. I have had such weird malfunctions or just blocks when working on projects. I just have bad luck I guess... Great video, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@americansewingmachineresto1545]

Hi John, you are a hoot with your “Flat Bastard” file. Boy that pizza looked so good. Nothing beats NY pizza. Ya, I’ve twisted a few blades in my time too. Just like you when I saw 357’s video I knew how it got bent. Very nice hammer refurb. I especially liked your leather handle treatment. I have an original WWII or maybe Korean War M1Carbine bayonet with a leather handle. I’m going to try your treatment. The knife is in super condition with the exception of the handle. Thanks for another great mid-week video. See you on Friday. John

[@jimjohnston7688]

That turned out so nice. I was wondering how you were going to address that handle. Just beautiful. Darn now I got the urge for pizza.😀

[@bigvicsworkshop]

Have yet to tackle a leather hand like that... but love watching it done! Just looks fantastic! I like the wax method as well..thanks for sharing that process, Mr John! Good stuff!

[@tonylenge424]

I saw you do this once before and used your method on an Estwing hammer and it came out great! Thanks

[@kevinbrassil9836]

Thanks Scoutcrafter. The handle of the hammer came out great. it looks like a beautiful wood grain.

[@TheCleric42]

Who needs Bruce Springsteen, Frank Sinatra, or Thomas Edison when we have the Prince of New Jersey

[@lewiemcneely9143]

NICE finish on the hammer and that wax is good for wood floors too. I didn't get anything either and had to remind myself to grin when I left because I told myself I was going to years before. The job was fine but the people were............................not. Be BLESSED, you John you!

[@AaronBelknap]

My last day at work, I turned in my Sgt. badge and don't let the door hit me in the rump on the way out! My wife threw a retirement party for me. I love pizza parties! I bought my crew pizza a few times my last few months at work. They worked hard for me and made me look good to my LT and higher. That hammer turned out gorgeous John! I love the stacked leather handles. Now, off subject, I want to see you fire up your mill and flatten something out! I wish I had a mill, small lathe and a precision grinder!!!!! My next toy will be a small lathe. I feel I can make more stuff with it than the rest. I also lack room in my tiny garage. Great video!

[@ScoutCrafter]

A small lathe is just so much fun, the mill is good but get a lathe first! They are just so darn expensive new. 🫣😃👍

[@805ROADKING]

You should have retired when that Animal through the Milk on you!! At least she gave you something!!☻

[@ScoutCrafter]

😂😂😂😂👍

[@ezzathawash2475]

I believe the stamping on the bottom is where that particular one was produced. Annandale, Minn. I have two of these hammers from my previous profession in Sheet metal. One from Annandale Minn. and one from Minneapolis, Minn. There are probably other locales as well.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Outstanding!!! Thanks!! 😃👍

[@liveoak4124]

Believe it was made by Estwing for Malco who are headquartered in Annandale MN

[@greghomestead8366]

Nice job on the hammer. Don't feel bad about no retirement party I put in 32 1/2 years and the only thing I got was......... Out. Of course that was the best part 😲 Will be 4 year this January 1st. Have a Jesus filled day everyone Greg in Michigan

[@frankblack5129]

Awesome job on the hammer and Magdad has been nailing 😃 his projects lately

[@peterw2845]

I’m always late these days cos I think your post time has changed … anyways I don’t know if the snoopy competition is still going but I saw him today 👏👏👏, funny video , love your sense of humour

[@terryrogers1025]

I watched that Magdad 357 video also, I also knew instantly what happened, only thing is, I didn’t fess up, 😂 but that is exactly how I knew what happened. Shame on us ehy😊. I will be trying out the hot wax finish some time in the future, I have an estwing hatchet that needs to be refurbished. Thanks for the video sir.

[@paulsworkshop4179]

Great hammer project. The handle has a new life

[@62forged]

Great video. I have a couple of hammers with stacked leather handles that need help. Thanks.

[@allentrench]

Nice mosh today John i’m going to have to remember the hot wax trick thanks for sharing hope you have a great rest of the week and see you on Friday

[@wireworks616]

Looks great. Nice finish on the handle.

[@metalwork.]

Great job ... Sure looks like a Estwing tinners hammer..

[@lotsatrains]

Beautiful job and great lesson on applying the wax thanks for that 👍

[@kevinbreckenridge6729]

Just got a can of wax last week, first time trying it! I like it for numerous things already, including the Estwing hatchet handle I brought back to life.

[@jackthompson2132]

That was a awesome job on the hammer John! Thanks for explaining how 357’s screwdriver was twisted. I couldn’t figure it out either 😂 Thank You for sharing!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Jack- One of those things I wish I didn’t know from first hand experience. 😂👍. Thanks!

[@rawbacon]

You got a ways to go yet before you can be called an Old Timer...........Any proper Old Timer would have a 30 year old Swatch of Cloth in his Wax Cans.

[@ScoutCrafter]

LOL- I always was afraid the rag in the can would draw out the thinners in the wax. 😂. I do have a tin of shoe polish with a rag in it I bought at a swap meet. 😃👍

[@billmccabe9601]

I got one with a 35 year old cloth in mine!

[@not2fast4u2c]

I could smell the paste wax when you opened the can I like the hot wax finish

[@wayneo7307]

Hi Scout , Well Done . It Looks Great . I Saw Snoopy .

[@user-ui1lj8vi1y]

Always entertaining and phenomenon job.

[@stevenwitt4028]

Great video 👍 That hammer 🔨 turned out fantastic! I like the idea 💡 of the hot wax technique. It does Look like a Malco hammer . The wax finish looks as good as the lacquer finish. You got it looking N.O.S. 👍 I also like the polish you done to the head of the hammer,that satin finish looks great. I like that Craftsman WF screwdriver 🪛 you had there. I will have to find one like that. I like the handle. I wonder when they made that one? Well again great video and can’t wait to see what you do on Friday. 😀👍

[@Dalesworkshop]

You did a great job on the whole hammer. I really like what you did with the handle. I saw one Jimmy Diresta did the other day. Your way is much simpler and as affective. Merry Christmas.

[@patjohnson3100]

That hammer is beautiful. It never looked so good. At first I thought it was an Estwing. I have a number of Estwing tools and like them. They are also nicely finished, and when i saw the forge mark on the hammer head, i wondered if it wasn't an Estwing. Also, the end cap on your hammer, although it looks the same with the double rivets,, looks poorly done or may have been damaged over time. What I dont care for on the leather disc handles is the coating. It tends to crack and chip Your wax treatment is better and looks great. I guess it's just cheaper and faster to dip the handle in some kind of coating rather than take more time to do your better wax process. Thanks.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Pat- You’ve got good eyes! You are spot on! 😃👍

[@petehayes4114]

Congratulations on your retirement! Sorry you had to throw your own party. The hammer looks awesome.

[@ohyikes1]

I retired in 2021 with 30 years of service as a utility worker. i also worked another 17 years elsewhere making my entire working career 47 years. When I retired after 30 years, I had no party due to COVID, however. I did receive a used office chair. As they say, "it's the thought that counts." LOL

[@overseas_demogod]

Well Scout, that's a bitter memory from what should be an acknowledgement of time served. But you've certainly made a big impact in my days. I think the first video I watched was the "confessions of a hammerolic"! Wow...that really hooked me. I've moved around the world and am in the Persian gulf now, pure culture shock and still watching every video. The MTA's loss was our gain and I thank you for sharing a touch of your day!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Thank you kindly! Be safe over there…. 😃👍

[@douglasgaither1346]

Beautiful- I like that shape of head

[@1D10CRACY]

That looks like it would be a fantastic treatment for one of those leather washer handles! Wish I had thought of that before I taped mine up with black tape. :) Tape is a bad idea... Hahaha! Mine is now all sticky and the tape is coming off.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Tim- The old friction tape or hockey tape is actually a nice grippy feel. You’re right about the vinyl electrical tape. 😃👍

[@beachcomer007]

nice hammer!!!

[@salgiordano9937]

I worked HVAC back in the 90's and I had that same Malco hammer. I lost it on a job, then went back to the same house a year later and when we cut open the ductwork above the furnace, I found my hammer on top of the heat exchanger. All of the leather rings on the handle had dried up, cracked to pieces, and fell off. About the same time, I lost the hammer I had bought to replace it, and I refused to buy a 3rd hammer. I built up a new "handle" with electrical tape (probably 2 rolls worth) then Plasti-Dipped it. I used it everyday for a few more years before leaving the industry. I still have the hammer and handle looks like it did 25 years ago, just a bit dirtier!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Wow! Lots of tape! 😂👍. Awesome!

[@beerdrinker6452]

Always interesting and informative content. Thank you.

[@janderson8401]

My dad retired in1984 after 43 years with the same company, they counted his time in the Army Air Corp as part of his length of service with the company. I don’t remember whether he got a retirement diner or party. That company had a monthly employee newsletter, a park like area where employees could eat during the warmer months. This area had horse shoe pits and bocci courts and the company ran horse shoe and bocci leagues in the summer. The company also had its own bowling league. An Old Timers diner was held every year where milestone years of service were recognized. I know he got a nice watch for 40 years and I think he got a tie clip for 30. After all, back in 1971 men still wore suits and ties if they had any sort of desk job, and probably wore a tie when they went to church.

[@kathieharine5982]

Nice hammer.

[@OldSneelock]

Love the stacked leather handles. Don't own any. Just a bit more than I can usually afford. 😁😎

[@doylerabjohn3435]

That handle looks good.

[@roberthoug7864]

Very nicely done Scoutcrafter! I WAS going to say you could get good money for your work, selling at half price or better of new, but 4 hours of time? FORGET ABOUT IT!! Thanks for the great video once again. I watch very little television. I NEVER MISS ANY OF YOUR Videos. eagle

[@ScoutCrafter]

Robert- You are so right, people often think you can make a few extra dollars restoring tools but when you add the cost of labor even at minimum wage it’s a losing proposition. 😂👍

[@guataco]

Snoopy always make me happy. Nice hammer. Regards.

[@Dirtyharry70585]

Same with the company I work for….pat on the head vs email. And don’t forget the company tools. Been there 38 yrs waiting for 2024

[@buddynewman8949]

When I retired I couldn't wait to get out of the place - told them if you are thinking of some sort of affair, forget it, just let me out. I was a teacher.

[@13thworker45]

John it’s absolutely beautiful, looks like new. I like the wax finish. Thank you for the tip.

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

Hi Scout, I’ve done quite a number of leather handled hammers and that one has all the hallmarks of an Estwing. The double rivets on the bottom, the shape of the leather handle, the facets on the shaft. I’ll bet if you compare the bottom plate it’ll be an exact match to an Estwing. I remember you telling me that Estwing also made hammers for True Temper and I found they were identical except: the brand name stamped in the head, the bottom plate not being stamped but was an exact match and there was no date stamped on the shaft under the leather like all the Estwings have. Great video as always. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺

[@ScoutCrafter]

Stuart- There are subtle differences, the shape of the handle and the undergrind of the head. I believe this is a Malco the lettering on the bottom I believe is Annandale - That is where Malco hammers are made. 😃👍

[@scroungasworkshop4663]

@@ScoutCrafter Awesome, thanks for letting me know👍👍👍

[@larryborkstrom3580]

That's a great job on the tinners hammer got a few leather stacked handles some knives hatchet and few hammers thanks

[@thomasryan8218]

I retired after 35 years,I called in on a Monday and told them I was on a permanent vacation.

[@bobjoncas2814]

a beautiful hammer, good one, keep safe..

[@shannonelliott6116]

Those Malco hammers came with a decal on the shank between the head and handle. I purchased two brand new, twenty years ago.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Yes! Decals... That is the lowest form of pride you can have in a product. A step below laser engraving! LOL Nothing beats a nice deep stamping that lets people know what this product is. =D Thanks!!!!!

[@MadStiles]

Great hammer! If a company made that they'd charge a ton lol!

[@sportsterrider-uh6ej]

Hammer turned out great! I have a Malco, Minn Mn stamped hammer, a little older than yours, when the metal was painted a verdigris color. This was before Malco had them highly buffed and nicely finished. How about doing a stacked leather repair project? Maybe a repair for just segments missing (if possible) and then a different project to completely restack and finish the leather. I have an Estwing hatchet and this Malco, both with leather segments missing and damaged. Thanks for the entertainment. Keep it up man!

[@ScoutCrafter]

That's a terrific idea... Thanks!!!!!!!!!

[@jimdavis8391]

Twisted and busted the end off one of my favourite screwdrivers a while ago and I wasn't using a wrench- must be too darned strong! Debating whether to grind further or weld a little dollop back on.

[@timeflysintheshop]

In my youth, I ground two flats on the round shaft of a stubby Craftsman phillips #2 to solve a lack of torque issue. You can certainly apply a lot to a phillips, if you can push hard enough! I am sure I still have it and have used it at least a few times in the 30 or so years since I ground the flats. I use vice grips on the flats.

[@unwired1281]

HAPPY HAPPY HOOORAAAYYYY Look at that table. 👍👍👍 Well done John!!

[@melkc345]

Sweeet job on the hammer. Heating the wax finish was over the top. Some companies really know how to treat their employees well. Apparently MTA didn't like to tale care of their employees. Jim

[@SpringRubber]

Square cut pitz, great stuff.

[@bigpete4227]

I always wondered how to bring back the leather on those handles. Keeping my eye out for one now.

[@kevinbreckenridge6729]

Try and find one that has fairly tight leather. I used Huberds

[@kevinbreckenridge6729]

Shoe grease before the wax and was able to pound the rivets to make it tight

[@GuntersGarage]

Boy that hammer came out great! Nice job !

[@lotsabirds]

I remember Willy Mosconi , remember him? Anyway he once said when asked about losing a tournament to Minnesota Fats.... "he's getting a trophy"....he continued..."I don't care about no stinkin' trophy"..."if I wanna trophy...I'll buy one!" I think the MTA had the same philosophy for retirees! LOL! It's a Malco...made in Annandale

[@ScoutCrafter]

😂😂😂👍

[@flatbushfox]

BEAUTIFUL JOB ON THE VICE.

[@alexstools]

Handle looks fantastic! I hope to try that someday, maybe it helps with the well known issue of shrinking of the leather to because it feeds it. This week does fly by, I have an exciting day coming up, motorcycle exam and it's COLD here, so I'm very nervous. Nothing beats being able to have good stuff like your retirement party with nice colleagues, screw the company :) Thank you!!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Alex- I remember taking my motorcycle exam, it was such a hassle and I had to have the bike, a licensed operator and a vehicle to follow me as I took the test. 🥴. Back in my day many operators only drove with permits. 😃👍

[@dsmith7455]

@@ScoutCrafter Hammer looks great! I rode 3 years with permits in the early 80s and finally took MSF course in 2009 which gives a road test waiver at least in NYS.

[@bernardvonderheide1268]

Like the leather grips

[@CivilizedWarrior]

Nice, yeah it’s a Malco setting hammer. Those letters on the bottom at one time should’ve read “Annandale MN,” where they were manufactured. I have an old no name (none that I can see anyway) leather stacked claw hammer I’ve been meaning to restore one of these days. Guess I’ll have to dig it out and “hammer” away at it, and strike while the iron is hot, so to speak. Sorry, I’ll see myself out lol

[@Resto-Rob]

Great looking hammer. Magdad is great to watch also. Pizza!!!

[@randyheinrich7183]

That's a Malco sheet metal Hammer from Annandale, Minnesota

[@LittleRestorers]

I can relate to doing the same silly thing with screwdrivers 😁. Beautiful finish on the hammer. A shame I cannot find the Johnson paste wax over here on Oz. I have tried many different brands but still not found one that am fully satisfied with.

[@joemoach832]

Great info on the leather handle restoration using the wax. Hammer came out beautifully. BTW, that Sicilian pizza looked really good!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Joe- it was amazing! 😃👍

[@robertlevine2152]

ScoutCrafter, After 31 years my boss and a HR representative came into my office and told me that I was being "severed". They told me to report to a meeting where I would be advised of the process and when finished I was to return to my office where there would be boxes to pack my office. That I was not to take the boxes with me, they would bring them to my home. I was 10 months short of fully vesting my retirement. I was left without medical, dental and life insurance. You mentioned what you paid for homeowners insurance. How about $2500/month, for my wife and I, for health insurance for 7 years until I qualified for Medicare? When the company sold off a part of the business the HR person that explained that some of the people in the room thought that they would be there until retirement. He then said we were commodities that could be sold at any time. Bob

[@ScoutCrafter]

Bob- I absolutely feel your pain. Imagine 10 months short and they do that…. People have literally gone postal for that reason. Medical insurance is shameful in this country. Thanks…

[@shannonelliott6116]

I cannot count the arguments I've has explaining that a sheet metal hammer is not a brick hammer...