Unwired the Otter - Using CR Scan Otter wirelessly with mobile app and bridge Wi-Fi

[@outlier4ever]

Excellent video, answered many questions for me. Thank you so much.

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

You're welcome!

[@sfrrob]

I didn't know I could use it wirelessly! This is fantastic. Thanks Payo.

[@MrReivn]

The Wifi Bridge (the handle) is brand new, I can't find it anywhere else except Crealitys own store. When it comes more available around here in Europe, this is pretty much a must have, because I use my desktop for scanning with the Otter, and can't carry it around scanning cars and such :D Wifi6 from the bridge makes everything that much easier...

[@Diedevanabs]

​@@MrReivnthe handle is available now, I found it in some EU webshops. However, it is quite expensive at 350euros 😢 I wonder if the Ferret pro wireless bridge would work with the Otter? That goes a lot cheaper...

[@holger_b]

Thank you for the next great video. And sharing the quick release adapter file 🙏🏼

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

No problem 👍

[@almiryunusov446]

thanks for the video, greetings from Russia

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Привет! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@Scott_6666]

Another great video. Thanks!

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Thanks for watching!

[@ajlbeer]

Thanks for making this. Much appreciated :)

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

My pleasure!

[@giovanicaramello]

Hi, great video! Thanks for all the informations.. Please, can you tell the FPS on mobile app mode? Do you think it's possible to scan full body with mobile app? I have an Revopoint POP (one), it's a nightmare to scan people.. mobile or on computer..

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Otter, even hook up to a phone (Android) it scans way faster and easier than my old POP 2, it's even better than newer mobile scanner like Einstar VEGA

[@yestinmoodley6536]

Hi , great video , what kind of cable are you using ? my Samsung S22 doesn't seem to work with this method.

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

It's USB-C to USB-C 3.0 data cable that I pulled out from portable SSD.

[@yestinmoodley6536]

@Payo-TensileCreator would a thunderbolt cable work ? I can't seem to make the scanner work with my phone

[@antunrosovic7284]

thx for info, have you tried to connect phone to Otter via Otters' original USB cable?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

No, I haven't tried that yet. One end is USB-A and need an adaptor. I'm not sure if the phone will recognize that.

[@ИванИванов-щ9я2п]

Thanks for the video! I didn't know that it was possible to save only one elbow. But my Poco M6 pro does not support this app. It also failed to launch CrealityScan on the surface 6 pro...

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

You can't run CR Scan PC app. on a computer that only has Intel integrated GPU. It works on AMD integrated GPU but not for Intel.

[@antunrosovic7284]

@@Payo-TensileCreator You are wrong - it works with Intel UHD 630 GPU, at 4-5 fps only, but it works. AMD/nVidia are recommendations only.

[@natakira8090]

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[@Payo-TensileCreator]

ขอบคุณครับ นานๆ จะมีคนไทยเข้ามาดูซักคน

[@natakira8090]

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[@pavelantonov7381]

I would like to compare the quality of scans on the phone and on the bridge

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Scanning with wire, bridge, or mobile app gives the same result, but scanning time and tracking are different. I'll probably make a comparison video on this.

[@outlier4ever]

@@Payo-TensileCreator Please on the video, that would be greatly appreciated Payo.

[@kutay_ozkeskin]

Couldent connect on iphone 16 promax ios 18.2.1. Tryed lots of cables

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Sorry that I don't have iOS device to try, but I've heard that the direct cable connection doesn't work with iPhone.

[@SmoggyTurnip]

Will the Raptor (non X version) work with the phone app?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

It only works in NIR mode, but is far worse than connecting to the PC.

[@bobharlsey7940]

Thank you for posting. I want to order the Otter Bridge. However, my other issue is my computer. I use a Microsoft Surface that meets the CR requirements. But it doesn't have a dedicated video card and it won't run the Otter. I think I will need to purchase a new MS Surface that have a video card and that is expensive (need the MS Surface for work too). My MS Surface can run cad programs without issues. It just can't interface with the Otter and do the scan. If I use the Otter Bridge and my Iphone 13, will I be able to scan this way? If so, then I can let my Iphone process the image and then transfer the image data to my MS Surface computer to complete the image process. Is that correct? Also, can I use the Otter Bridge wireless and a PC (with the proper video card) without a Phone connected?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

You will need a PC with dedicated GPU (Preferable from Nvidia) to scan with Otter/Raptor. RTX 3060 would do just fine and handheld gaming device like ROG Ally or Legion Go also works. Yes, you can connect Wi-Fi handle to iPhone. It won't be as fast as connecting to a gaming PC but it will work with Otter. Yes, Processing points cloud uses only CPU. You can transfer file from your phone app to PC app. Yes, if your gaming laptop is nearby. You don't need to mirror the screen to the phone. I do that all the time. It's bigger and have more UI control.

[@bobharlsey7940]

@ Thank you for the information. Very helpful. Knowing this, I will purchase the Otter bridge today. So my MS Surface now, without a dedicated video card, will not work at all. I need to get a computer with a video card to process the image data. Is that correct? And the gaming tablets you mentioned for scanning bit faster than the iPhone . Will the gaming tablets work in place of a PC with video card?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

If you have to decide between Wi-Fi handle and a new gaming laptop, I recommend the laptop. In the end, you'll need that to edit the scan in 3rd party 3D software.

[@bobharlsey7940]

@ That makes sense and I agree.. I had already ordered the WiFi bridge but that’s going to be okay. If it can be wireless and scan with my iPhone a little slow, then that is good for me to get started. I have an older desktop with windows 10 and graphics card to use until I figure out what laptop or gaming device to get. How many FPS will the IPhone scan with the bridge? Will the WiFi Bridge and Iphone connect wirelessly and work by themselves ?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

@@bobharlsey7940 I don't have an iPhone to try with, but I've seen heard people say the only way to connect to the iPhone is by using Wi-Fi bridge.

[@cautilli]

you can also use phone only via the wireless bridge, no cables needed by scanning the qr code on the wireless bridge with your phone

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Yes, it can connect to the mobile app through Wifi bridge, but the scanner is only a centimeter away from the phone. Plunging in the cable is way faster.

[@AdamM-k5n]

​@@Payo-TensileCreator i would say that there can really be difference, because your phone have only usb2.0 so with wireless connection it could get faster maybe. but would be interesting to see what is really the bottleneck. :)

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

@AdamM-k5n I already have 250 MB/s link speed on the cable, similar to bridge Wi-Fi. My Galaxy Tab 9 ultra scans faster than this phone that's because faster CPU. They also have the same link speed.

[@JuanVázquez-t1s]

Great work y use Lenovo legion

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

My laptop is an Asus Tuf A15 2024 model.

[@leszekkalinowski2436]

What is your opinion? Is it scanning better than vega? In that wireless mode

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Otter even with mobile app can capture more surface data on a single frame, so it scans black and tracks much better than Vega.

[@adam1st-]

Hello, I'm having an issue with my otter connecting to the mobile app via usb. The light on the otter lights up but app doesn't do anything when I connect it

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

What phone are you using? I don't think direct cable connection works with iPhone.

[@adam1st-]

@@Payo-TensileCreator Samsung 23ultra

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

@@adam1st- I've just connected Otter to Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra, it connects right away. It must be the cable.

[@adam1st-]

@@Payo-TensileCreator I have tried multiple cables from my SSD's and also cables provided and still doesnt work, very strange and I dont know what to do

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

@ Have you tried with other phones?

[@byronwilliams6532]

Does the Otter work wireless with the Ferret pro wireless bridge and does Ferret work with the Otter bridge?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Otter doesn't work with Ferret's bridge. But I haven't tried the other way around. From the spec, it also should not work.

[@byronwilliams6532]

@ Thanks I have the original Ferret, which may not be the best scanner for something, but, but the things it does scan it does quite well. Even though I have three Revopoint scanners (Range, Range2, and Pop2) they are better with their single rotation than the Ferret, but the Ferret is so forgiving when lost tracking is re established, and it allows multiple rotations. The only problem with scanners, I don’t have the capabilities of scanning small objects. This is where this Otter comes in. Revo Miraco and Mini can handle this duty, but they are still appear less forgiving forgiving the Creality.

[@Diedevanabs]

​@@Payo-TensileCreator can you explain where the incompatibility between otter and Ferret bridge comes from, why they dont work together? The Otter bridge handle is sooo damn expensive at this point😢

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

@@Diedevanabs Ferret Wi-Fi handle can't mirror the screen to the phone, and when connected to the Otter, it shows error message. Why don't you connect it to an android phone with USB C cable instead? I think Otter works pretty well with the phone.

[@Diedevanabs]

@Payo-TensileCreator I would rather have it wireless, since the scan rate on my phone is way slower than in your vid (not sure if it might be a lighting thing) and the USB-C plug tends to disconnect phone-side. But if the only wireless option is the expensive handle, I'll have to wait until the price drops, or make do wired.

[@Theprofessor1212]

I already purchased the wifi bridge. I wish i knew it will work with the phone.

[@Waffle4569]

I get about 4 fps on my Pixel 4. At that speed, the scan will take 4x longer than a laptop and more easily lose tracking

[@josephbrown1985]

I just got the bridge too, and was gutted to see this. However, I just tried connecting the scanner directly to an iPhone 13 via a cable and nothing happened. Maybe you need a better cable than the standard iPhone cable to do this? I've been using the bridge and CR scan app to scan directly with the iPhone and it's great. It's a little bit slower than with my PC (i5 12400f, RTX 2060 Super) but not really by much. Quick enough that you can move around without having to be super careful about losing tracking or anything like that. I couldn't see the FPS value reported while scanning though, so can't say exactly how it's performing. I've used it to scan the engine bay of my project car yesterday in large object, hi-quality, geometry mode and was really impressed. I then transferred it all back to the PC wirelessly and processed it there. TL:DR I couldn't connect an iPhone 13 directly to the scanner with a cable, but it works really well with the WiFi bridge Edit: Just watched the rest of the video and the performance I get scanning with the Bridge and iPhone 13 directly is very similar to the performance Payo gets using the Wifi Bridge linked to his laptop. 6:20 in the video

[@dany19991]

@@Waffle4569 you can use the money you would pay on the wifi bridge to get a better phone :)

[@TD-er]

@@Waffle4569 If your PC is connected to wired ethernet and you have good WiFi coverage for your phone, you can also use it like that. This way you don't degrade the WiFi link between the bridge and the PC as much which makes scanning a lot easier. The actual bandwidth sent over WiFi isn't that much (50 - 120 Mbps max on my Raptor), but the latency is important for tracking. So having the mobile also connected to the same WiFi will seriously harm this latency. Or use a decent laptop which you can drag along while scanning. Just keep in mind to have the laptop powered while scanning or else you will see a significant decrease in framerate and/or it will fluctuate. Problem is that the laptop used for scanning needs to be quite beefy in specs, which will probably cost you 1000 - 1500 euro at least. I have no idea if any GPU other than NVidia will work. At least the intel GPU in my i5 (4 years old) and i7 laptop (6 years old) only can deliver 5 - 8 fps which is too low to be usable. There are some nice laptops available with those new Intel GPU's, but since the Creality QA specifically mentions NVidia GPU's I would make sure to use that one.

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Creality said they'll try to make Otter run faster than 15 FPS over bridge Wifi on PC. Now, the current scanning speed is very close to the mobile app over the USB C cable.

[@EUGERT72]

Could anybody advise what settings of Samsung Galaxy phone should be changed to make it work with my Otter? It seems I tried everything but didn't succeed.. The cable is not the reason, I'm sure..

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

It just plugs and plays on my Galaxy Tab S9 tablet, without any setting. I think if the phone can connect to an USB C external monitor then it should work with the scanner.

[@EUGERT72]

It definitely can, Samsung DeX works just fine, for example.. But Creality scan app does not recognize the Otter whatever cable is used

[@EUGERT72]

Anyway thank you for your reply and the great videos you do 👍

[@uservoidcpp]

Привет, а не пробовали использовать мост от феррет? Совместно с Отто?

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

yes, it doesn't work with Otter

[@uservoidcpp]

@Payo-TensileCreator спасибо

[@zverhomyak]

Friend! It doesn't work with my Huawei Pure 70 phone. Do you know anyone in creative? Can you pass this information on to them? I bought this bridge a month ago for a lot of money, but I still can't use it. Please pass this information on to them! Because it's just a pile of metal now.

[@Payo-TensileCreator]

Ok, I'll pass that to them. What scanner are you using it with? Were you connecting to a PC or mobile app?

[@zverhomyak]

@@Payo-TensileCreator With an otter. With a computer, everything works fine. But the application for Huawei phones is not ready. That is, with my wife's Samsung phone, everything works fine, but with my Huawei it connects to the bridge, but there is an error during scanning. I think this is due to a modified version of Android, Harmony OS