UPCOMING battery tech ‘'Kun-Era’' from Ampace at EICMA

[@Scooter-King.]

Thanks for the great coverage for those of us that could not attend the show.

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@ANTIINJECTIONS]

Awesome. You asked very good questions, that most of us are interested in. Out of pure coincidence, I received a email from bicycle motor works, that they are now offering Ampace batteries. Thank you for making this video.

[@joehiatt1992]

Thats the biggest problem with E vehicles is battery weight, size,cost ,longevity ,charge time...all the E vehicles are super tech but the battery power source is ancient tech

[@gcdplz]

Excellent video. You asked very good questions throughout the interview, and you can clearly see the CTO is both knowledgeable and informative. Looking forward to what advancements are coming and integrated in 2025 and beyond.

[@thevillain8151]

I wanna see this in kick scooters lol looks reasonable sized to even fit two inside a deck for even more range and controllers in the stem

[@meisme12356]

Health and safety comes first that has to be good 👍

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

I like the company direction and culture. So far Surron, NIU, Honda and many other manufacturer that used their batteries turn to be safe and reliable. The new line up looks to be better and more efficient.

[@meisme12356]

Big up 🎉​@@ElectricVehicleSpace

[@camopirate]

Haha i like the face of Dr Ampace when you are trying to explain you want a lighter, better battery…. He was just like No shit what do think the industry has spent billions trying to figure out and proceeds to lecture you on safety.

[@Top12Boardsport]

There is a blanket that firefighters here use to suffocate the batteries that catch fire.

[@BrianTRice77]

Are you sure of that 30kg mass for the largest pack, a 4.4kWh battery? That's over 66lb which seems very heavy compared to a Zero 3.6kWh brick which weighs more like 40lb (20kg). I can't find any specifications in the press releases, so right now your video appears to have the only numeric claims online (ofc I'm probably missing a Chinese language PDF or something). Anyway, thanks for the coverage!

[@MotoAlias]

The big breakthrough for battery tech will be charge time in minutes not hours

[@EscooterNinja]

AWESOME VIDEO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. I JUST STARTED MY KZbin CHANNEL HOPEFULLY CAN MAKE IT LIKE YOURS!! AGAIN AWESOME WORK ❤🎉🎉🎉

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

You can do it!

[@EscooterNinja]

@ElectricVehicleSpace thank you

[@jarkkoaitti287]

Try to speak about Watt Hours (Wh), not Amp Hours which are misleading in many ways. You have to know of which voltage they are calculated at, battery discharge curve (how the voltage drops) etc.. for it to mean anything..

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

I think you are the only one confused here.

[@jarkkoaitti287]

@@ElectricVehicleSpace Sorry if was a bit blunt, kind of a straight talker and my finnish no bs expression might sound hostile. If you google about it, most sites gets it wrong when thinking you can calculate Ah to Wh simply by Ah*Voltage=Wh when batteries are involved. It is a common misconseption and repeated everywhere, maybe you believe a known respected and talented engineer dave, he has a video "EEVblog #140 - Battery Capacity Tutorial". You should really watch that and perhaps also more general "EEVblog #1009 - Voltage vs Power vs Energy"..

[@jarkkoaitti287]

@@ElectricVehicleSpace and also recent "EEVblog 1648 - USB Battery Bank mAh Capacity ratings are a LIE!" has a lot of good points

[@BrianTRice77]

I agree that because Wh or kWh measures energy, whereas Ah measures total electron flow potential, it more directly helps identify the range of an EV especially a bicycle or scooter. But I'm not going to chastise anyone for it, just encourage talking in Wh when talking about range.

[@maciejpsyk]

Sadly it will be too high to stack two 35205 cells vertically in Talaria and other emotos and also too long to stack them horizontally. Doesn't work either way. You must allow around 22 cm for the battery's width to utilize this format (model 7445 with 30 cells). However two 7460 batteries yell 8.88 kWh. Enough for intercity travel with removable batteries! Unheard of until now.

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

They have various sizes. Not necessarily designed for Talaria.

[@maciejpsyk]

@@ElectricVehicleSpace That's my point. Emotos like Talaria are in the 10% of the market not covered by them, as he said. One 7460 battery would be perfect for Surron Ultra Bee and two for RGNT through.

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

@@maciejpsyk that would require a full size frame that surron or talaria cannot accommodate. They made a smaller size for these bikes.

[@maciejpsyk]

@@ElectricVehicleSpace Smaller than 35x205 mm cylindrical cells? I saw only that format in your video. Plus the rectangular cell that wasn't covered in your conversation.

[@MotoAlias]

He did say they can make there pouch cells to any size needed. And talarias and surrons already use pouch cells if you buy from ewatt or ebmx. So maybe this would be a better option I agree tho they should capitalize on the smaller emoto market

[@jkeyohm9524]

Need this for my EUC!🥹

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

They make bigger packs. Not sure it will fit on a EUC and it will be too hard to integrate unless it is the smaller 28Ah pack. They are focusing now on 2 and 3 wheel vehicles.

[@DreDDaR9gi]

Не очень форм фактор Точнее такой аккумулятор не для много используешь Узконаправленый Чем больше липав потребителей у продукта Тем прибыльней продукт

[@T-Ball-o]

Just don't call them bicycles

[@kolopier]

Sounds like scam...

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

Are you crazy or ........how is this a scam. Do you even realize that biggest brands in the world use their tech? Look at the their website they have over 50 partners world wide!