*UPDATE: The company has emailed me to apologize and say that I was right. Link in description!

[@gardvord]

Harley Benton didn't reply, but they changed the neck description. It now (June 13th 2022) says: "Neck profile: Modern C".

[@thebaldshredder]

But if you read the paragraph description, it's still exactly what I quoted. Still says D, virtuoso, lightning fast, etc. And the description on the Thomann site is even worse.

[@Briansgate]

Jackson, baby! The neck is one of the main reasons I love my Jackson. I still can't shred, but, I still like it!

[@thebaldshredder]

On a Jackson you know what to expect with the neck.

[@Seven7Pain1]

Even Groove style numetal we want jumbo frets easier to get chords out and thin neck so hand doesn't get tired

[@HowlinAndyDE]

I have the same exact guitar and don't have any of these issues whatsoever. Some of the the HB Guitars aren't perfect to be true, but i never had one that was bad or that had any issues that i couldn't fix with 2 minutes of work.

[@thebaldshredder]

Unfortunately these two issues (thick neck and tiny frets) could not be fixed quickly or easily. Harley Benton just admitted to me in an email that there were mistakes with this batch and they are working to get things changed at the factory.

[@HowlinAndyDE]

@@thebaldshredder yeah i heard that it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, for me it's kinda perfect 🤣 plays nicely for me and my hands. I can at least see where you are coming from. I had one Jack and Danny Paula from MusicStore in Germany.. that was cursed the same way.. but that was unplayable since it was super heavy also. I guess it depends on the player and the guitar. Got my Harley Benton HB35 a ES-335 style guitar today. The whole job on there is way better then on the Progressive Series to be honest.. i mostly see them as Modding Platforms.

[@samizdat113]

I wish entry level guitars were had the bang for buck in the 80's as they do now.

[@wasteddude9387]

Hello, kind sir. I thoroughly enjoyed your burn ward video. The wounds must be cleansed in order to heal properly. Bravo, good sir, bravo!

[@benjaminfretwell4417]

Can i put mammoth slinky strings on this guitar?

[@ToneD5150]

Thank you for your honesty about this product! You have reminded me to be more aware of the importance in making sure item descriptions are correct. Your reviews are second to none, and your opinions are highly respected...!!! Thank you 😊 I'm subscribed 🤘

[@thebaldshredder]

Thank you 🤘

[@angelius541]

You are very right, the companies do whatever it takes to sell you anything, now that guitar has the neck painted on the back, I would have to check or see how many millimeters thickens the sensation of the neck

[@robertclarkguitar]

This was actaully refreshing. You described your experience and I do not expect everyone to have the same "Value" feel after purchase. You went further to acknowledge false advertising and that's a good catch for the buyer to beware. Price point makes no difference as build specifics in ad are often relied on for those expecting to get what they paid for. This is a great video topic and honesty reflects your reviews ....That's top notch to me. PS "Cool Dude!!!" Hahahah

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks!

[@joerausch5756]

I wonder if the frets are a seasonal thing. I've bought a number of harley bentons they were all winter purchases and came with flawless fret work. The JJ I just got is the first one I bought in the summer and it has a few sharp frets

[@thebaldshredder]

I'm sure the weather has something to do with it. These are the sharpest I've ever felt.

[@LesterMitchell]

Dang that sucks man! Bummer you had that experience.

[@thebaldshredder]

More bummer for them. The power of the Bald Shredder strikes hard!

[@edwardheins2930]

Coming in for my first experience with your channel i can feel your frustration guess i caught you at a bad time ill come back another time. no judgement.

[@thebaldshredder]

Watch my Fesley review from a few weeks ago for a totally different experience

[@SaintsPurgatory]

I don't understand why you did not return it if you are that unsatisfied with what you got. Seems as if you have the time to email them then you tell them you want a return shipping label while you are at it.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

I know this is a bit off topic, but I just purchased a HB ST-20 HH with an amp kit, but I overlooked the fact that the amp has a UK/German "Shucko" plug. Do you have any recommendations for a converter or adapter to use in American power outlets? Thank you for your time.

[@thebaldshredder]

I have no idea about that. I would try googling it.

[@shaunedaniel]

they updated the description lol Fed up with the mainstream? The design of the HVY-25 BKS oozes refinement and tasteful understatement. The visual highlights of this guitar include a reversed headstock and a matte black finish. Powered by two high-output humbuckers, this progressive axe is the perfect weapon of choice for connoisseurs of rock and metal. The maple neck has a roseacer fretboard with 24 frets, and features a Modern C neck profile. The ample cutaway opens up the high frets for screaming leads. Understatement? Only at first glance.

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks! Yeah they emailed me finally to apologize and say that I was correct about everything. I did a follow up video after this one if you want to hear the full story.

[@FultonStreetBeats]

100% truth. Awesome video. Funny thing is that my Benton V was advertised as a C neck and its a D. Lol. Which was a bonus for me. But what if I wanted a C.. They definitely need to make sure what the print is accurate. Thanks for the video brother.

[@thebaldshredder]

Definitely. They really shouldn't put false, misleading descriptions.

[@SaintsPurgatory]

"They definitely need to make sure what the print is accurate" Yes and apparently they are not the only ones.

[@valueofnothing2487]

My $300 Squire Affinity had flawless frets and low action. My bullet had to have a bit higher action, but was still quite good. Of course, not a shredder.

[@thebaldshredder]

I've had 3 Squiers. They all had really good fret work. Didn't need to be leveled.

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

Hi! First time on your channel and subbed! Just wonder if you know a cheap decent 7 string shred guitar? I need one for backup. Googled Fesley, they don't seem to do 7 strings

[@thebaldshredder]

You know I've actually never played a 7 string. Can you believe it? Anyway, I know Jackson makes some affordable 7 string guitars. I've never tried them, but I always like Jackson guitars.

[@insertanynameyouwant5311]

@@thebaldshredder sure I can believe it, I don`t know you that well yet lol Thanks!

[@lostreb]

Please correct me if I'm wrong in my understanding that the factories in China make guitars to the specifications and price point that resellers (in this case, Harley Benton) provide. So, this guitar was built exactly the way Harley Benton requested. The problem lies with providing a description that does not accurately represent the guitar they are attempting to sell. It would seem, at least to me, that would result in more dissatisfied customers than satisfied ones. I question if this is the only Harley Benton guitar that is in reality "not as advertised / described?" Thanks for another great review. Please keep them coming.

[@thebaldshredder]

I don't know about any of their other models, but this one is definitely not "as advertised." Thanks!

[@lostreb]

@@thebaldshredder I would never expect you to comment about any guitar you had not had in your hands as being as advertised, nor would I anyone else. I may not have posed the question as well as I could have. It is one of those things that immediately comes to my mind when I see anything like this...That if this happened on this one, it automatically makes me wonder if this is a one-time occurrence, or, how many more could this also be the case.

[@paanokayaitotv1726]

Many people decide to make a jump off a lake without knowing how deep it is... Your not. . Its very simple to comment and choose where to side, but most of these people only have a very little knowledge about guitars. Your the expert here, your the professor, others only must listen before they tap letters and show their point of view, only if there is. They were just so lucky to get the guitar that met all of their expectations. They dont fell bad about their money, they are contented, but your not and you deserve a spotlight here for everyone else to set as reference if they decide to order one. Im sorry about my english, not my first language, in fact just trying to learn both english and guitar playing. Thanks for this video, i almost ordered one. Now i need time to think wether to continue purchace or look for other option.

[@scottsteel4230]

First time seeing you. GREAT review. Honest. I am subscribing. ✌️

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks and welcome!

[@scottsteel4230]

@@thebaldshredder 🎸👍

[@fvneral666]

I guess this video did the job, they've updated the description hahaha :D nice one!

[@thebaldshredder]

They also emailed me an apology

[@johnwebb2562]

Sorry to hear about your dilemma with you HB guitar. I myself was in the process of buying one . But I have not done now because I also would want Jumbo frets. For me the neck profile can be Modified to a slim neck but I don't want to start to refret to larger frets. I know that sometimes Thomann can have some issues with their descriptive terms when the translation comes out of the wash sometimes they don't set the machine for the Right 👍 colour or temperature results settings. Anyway Thanks 👍 for your 📷 video. They do have some good guitars in their HB arsenal, some just need tweaking a bit with their designs and Hardware. All the best for 24. I love HB cause as Frank Used to say " It will irritate some Executive kind of Guy's. Take care. Thanks 👍 . John.

[@GUITARKITWORLD]

Yikes! Bad bad bad.. Thanks for giving us a heads up, Richard!

[@thebaldshredder]

Don't buy a Harley Benton. Buy a kit from Guitar Kit World!!!

[@Thrashpotato]

im only about a min in the Vid, and my classic flames V is freaking amazing, now I'm gonna watch the rest to see whats up I love HB but if theres issues I wanna hear them because I plan on buying more

[@thebaldshredder]

Hopefully their other more expensive guitars have thinner necks and bigger frets, but I wouldn't know.

[@Thrashpotato]

@@thebaldshredder hopefully, you are right man they cheesed you on this one I would be mad to man

[@Barbarapape]

I have had a similar experience with inaccurate neck descriptions on HB guitars. In my case it was the ST59-HM which is supposed to have a V profile neck, but it hasn't. After doing some research i found out that Thomann switched factories but failed to update the changes on their website. The early samples did have V necks and a few other changes compared to the ones on sale now. Like you i kept it for a while, but didn't like playing it, so it went to a local charity shop. Sometimes you don't always get what you are expecting, Thomann are box sellers leaving the customer dissatified.🤔

[@Thrashpotato]

if you ever buy a sawtooth guitar let me know or if you did already and i missed the vid im interested in those as well

[@thebaldshredder]

No Sawtooth yet. I haven't quite decided if I want to try one or not.

[@Thrashpotato]

@@thebaldshredder oh ok, if i get one before you decide I'll shoot my thoughts on it

[@calbrockocat8728]

My experience with Thomann has been very good. I have purchased 4 directly and 1 second hand. As a lefty, Harley Benton provides affordable options that other brands simply don't. That Fesley looked okay. Are their any lefties? Of course not. So, yeah, I buy from them and I temper my expectations. It's way better than walking into a music store and there is 1 option; either a dusty old tele style or cheap ass Strat clone that won't stay in tune.

[@thebaldshredder]

I'm glad you've had good experiences with them.

[@PegeCovers]

That is true. The options are trash in many music stores. Just a bunch of strats and teles. And a few acoustics. All look the same.

[@bassworship50]

You did this video in good taste and you were very accurate yet very nice about it. Thank you for your honesty and accuracy, peace.

[@thebaldshredder]

Thank YOU for understanding my intention. Some of the HB fanboys haven't been very happy with me.

[@66fitton]

Agreed that HB is misleading buyers and dropped the ball by not responding. Good to know if you were considering this as an option. By the way, LOVE that mid 80's Destroyer on the wall behind you! I bought the Iceman at the same time as my buddy bought the destroyer!

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks!

[@Seven7Pain1]

No just said they had wrong info on site

[@nosub8969]

Thomman have been excellent I got a Tele with a large chip in the paint work they offered quid off or a replacement seeing as it played like a dream I got the money paid in the bank ,,plus they deliver really quick

[@winstonsmith8240]

I've been thinking about the 'high end' HB, but have been reluctant because, 'buy before you try'. Everyone (most) reviews have been incredibly positive. I think I'll just get a refret on my old Ibanez. Cheers. Very helpful video. 👍

[@AdamBurseMusic]

Great round up review Richard, that was awesome man 😀🤘🎵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@cutez0r]

I totally get why so many disclaimers. HB fans are pretty extreme in their passion. I tried a HB and it was an ok budget-friendly beginner instrument, but I didn't have huge expectations to begin with. I'm definitely against extremes when it comes to guitar brands.

[@thebaldshredder]

Yeah I was fully expecting the HB fan army to come at me in full force.

[@Seven7Pain1]

Neck profile not what listed

[@edmoses2657]

Great video and explanation. There should never be false information about a product you sell on your website. If there is, it should be corrected as soon as it is identified. Now, you as the customer have just reviewed their product with this video, and someone who may have considered this brand is now "not" going to purchase from them because they don't trust the name. This how a company can ruin their reputation. They should have responded within a few days and didn't, this is poor customer support. It's a great looking guitar, but most importantly, it needs to feel comfortable when you play it.

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks Ed. I'm glad you get it.

[@nostro1001]

Not entirely sure why this vid appeared on my feed, I've never searched anything HB. But I clicked and here I am. 🤔 I must say this was rather amusing, especially your preamble largely due to guessing what you were about to say. Couldn't agree more! All too often comments are riddled with personal experiences when in fact they don't relate to the video at all. Notwithstanding, I'm not convinced I agree with your conclusion relating to customer service, other than it's not met your expectations. Keep up the good work man. 😎👍

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks

[@Briansgate]

Dude, I hate that you had that experience. I had a good experience with them when I bought my speaker cab from them. But just leaves more room on your wall for more Jackson guitars!! :)

[@thebaldshredder]

I currently have zero Jacksons. I need to rectify that. Buy yeah, if you're going to spend a little under 200 for a guitar, always go with Jackson. Skip this brand.

[@terryclark7700]

I have a similar HB model and yeah that neck on that is kinda chunky as well but man...the EMG pickups sound awesome and for the price I won't complain, lol

[@thebaldshredder]

Cool. Glad you like it.

[@2bikemikesguitartopics145]

Oh come on, stop holding back, I wish you would tell me what you really think of it., 😁 My bentons are just like anybody else's guitars. They all need some kind of work. So far I've been pretty lucky with just Bret work and rewiring the way I like sometimes.

[@PegeCovers]

Yea, the brand has very little to do with having to do maintenance and setups etc. All guitars need that more or less.

[@thebaldshredder]

Ha ha, yeah I tell it like it is, always. Now you know I don't mind working on my cheap guitars. I've done it to practically every one of them. But this is way beyond that.

[@stefantho4761]

Hi The first Version of the HB HWY 25 BKS hatte d-profile guitar neck.You can recognize the first version by the white saddle.In addition,the humbuckers of the first version are pretty bad.I own the first version and exchanged the humbuckers for EMG H4A,H4 and the Tremolo is fixed.My version is not suitable for shredding.I play with its Rammstein cover and it is wonderful for that. Greetings from Germany

[@stanlee7134]

on the official Thoman website it says that it has a C shape neck...

[@thebaldshredder]

Read the paragraph description. It says D.

[@revnobody]

I recently purchased 2 HB guitars as I was curious about all the great things I have heard about them. Like you, my expectations were in check, I knew I was buying sub $200 guitars. The finish on both was quite nice for the price point. One played quite well (again for the price point). however the second was complete rubbish. The neck was twisted, the frets were extremely unlevel and the guitar wasn't playable. My problem is not with the guitars, but with the way Thomann handled the situation. Basically, I'm paraphrasing here, stating this was acceptable for the price range of the guitars. The guitar was useless as anything other than a wall hanger. It was my first and will be my last purchase from Thomann.

[@thebaldshredder]

Sorry to hear that. I guess I'm not the only one that's not impressed with Thomann.

[@RaceTraitor219]

Can confirm, I own this guitar I love to death but it is definitely not made with shred players in mind. Even the neck on their sc custom guitar is way thinner than this one.

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks

[@Thrashpotato]

dude I work at Fender I'm gonna ask the custom shop guys in the Jackson custom shop how many c neck axes they are making ill let you know what they say tomorrow just for S.A.G.

[@thebaldshredder]

Cool. Ask them about thin neck profiles and jumbo frets. Let me know what they say.

[@Thrashpotato]

@@thebaldshredder will do they will probably look at me like I smoked something when i ask how many C necks came off the C and C for jackson lol

[@Thrashpotato]

@@thebaldshredder dude the new soloist coming out is a neckthrough the thing is sick I need you IG so I can message you secret pics of guitars that are soon to be released my man

[@thebaldshredder]

@@Thrashpotato My IG link is in the video description.

[@Thrashpotato]

@@thebaldshredder oh lol duh i guess haha

[@napesdrk1174]

Excellent analysis my man. Ibanez forevermore

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks. Yes I'd buy an Ibanez over a Harley Benton every time.

[@O.D.E.GuitarSoundtracks]

Great guitars!!! I GOT an acustica One and its Amazing 🎸💯

[@simonssparestrings8910]

good review a slap on the head for you :-)

[@elsonmachado3509]

I totally agree with you, bro. Since you contact the company and pointed out those issues that you dislike and they didn't care to answer, I think this is surely a proof that the company is not reliable. Respect is a two way street and that kind of attitude shows that they don't care about their customers. It's a pity, cause the guitar looks really nice, and the guys should be interested in correcting the fails on their product and make it better.

[@thebaldshredder]

Yep. And it would be super easy for them to correct the website description, but obviously they don't want to. Very dishonest. And they don't reply to paying customers? Bye bye Harley Benton.

[@PegeCovers]

@@thebaldshredder They have replied to me almost every time but let's be honest, a lot of brands won't respond to this kind of stuff no matter what. If you messaged them and told them your guitar isn't functional in some way, they would respond. They just don't respond to these kinds of things. And they are not alone in that type of thinking. Happens everywhere.

[@thebaldshredder]

Yes I'm totally aware of this. And actually I expected them to not reply and that's exactly what happened. It's unfortunate. I've emailed other companies about far smaller issues that were far cheaper and gotten responses and help. So it doesn't have to happen, but it does.

[@PegeCovers]

@@thebaldshredder Aye. But in general the service is top notch and they are willing to help. But they don't really take suggestions. At least that often. But hey, keep an eye out for that store page and see if they actually change it, lol ;)

[@briannelms158]

Hate thick necks! Sounds like bad customer service for sure! Description should be accurate no matter what the cost! Thanks for sharing Richard!

[@thebaldshredder]

Yep no reason to have a misleading description.

[@doknox]

Gotta love people who comment about a video they didnt even watch! Lol

[@thebaldshredder]

Happens all the time.

[@jimmyz2098]

So sorry Brother, that you had a bad experience with Harley Benton. I have had 7 or 8 of them.... at least. And they are killer guitars. I've had incredibly good luck with them. Only one guitar where I had a major complaint - and that was a finish color. The next guy might have loved it, but I did not like the color that I got. It went into a trade package. The sad thing is... that it was an AWESOME guitar. Straight out of the box. I love em.' But I know on budget guitars, you'll have an issue here or there. And sorry they got you in the description on this one. Not cool! I dig your channel, and you have great vids. Rock on, and better luck with the next axe!

[@thebaldshredder]

I'm glad you like your HB guitars. I guess they're just not for me.

[@jimmyz2098]

@@thebaldshredder Not for everyone Bro - and that can be said about every brand of guitar and gear. But that's the spice of Life I guess. And that is what makes it fun!! Sorry again, that you had a bad experience with this particular guitar / transaction. It sucks when it happens on occasion. I hope the next axe you buy rocks, and you have a much better experience, whatever the brand is.

[@strategicthinker8899]

Another employee comment. They do this on all non-glowing reviews. I know, they spammed my videos too. Improve your products instead of damage control.

[@Tomislav_B.]

It's a cheap guitar so it's OK? Accurate description doesn't cost a cent more.

[@thebaldshredder]

Exactly!

[@Thrashpotato]

oh i think all HB guitars are c shape no matter what the say lol

[@kevh9497]

I understand your frustration with the advertising, but you need to calm down a little (and lower your voice some) or you'll give yourself a nosebleed!

[@thebaldshredder]

Calm down? Never! LOL. There are plenty of calm, boring, guitar guys on KZbin that can put you to sleep. Bring on the nose bleeds! Just having fun.

[@kevh9497]

@@thebaldshredder You're right there.. keep up the hyperventilating.. you're good at it ;)

[@SingPsalms]

I’ll stick with Charvel, Ibanez, and Jackson for my shreddy needs 😋. Thanks for the honesty about the Harley Benton guitars. I honestly have more respect for you about this. I always got the feeling they were overhyped and too good to be true. My next guitar is going to be a Charvel DK24 HH I’m extremely excited about it, I love Charvel!

[@jimmyz2098]

They are not over-hyped. They are awesome. But they are also over-seas budget guitars. If you order several of them.... you'll get a lemon here and there. But I think they are killer axes - and especially for the prices they get. I have had 7 or 8 of them. All were rock solid. I dig the Bald one... he's awesome. And I'm sorry that apparently he had a bad experience. I appreciate that he has a problem with THIS PARTICULAR GUITAR. And he's letting us know. I can't blame him for that.

[@thebaldshredder]

You won't be disappointed with the Charvel. Best guitars you can buy. And remember I haven't tried any other HB guitars so I really have no idea about their other models.

[@ces69]

If your in the market for an Ibanez, Charvel or Jackson, you would never even consider a Harley Benton, it is a budget brand, priced and aimed at an entirely different market. They are not bad guitars, I own 3 but they are what they are, good beginners guitars and great upgrade platforms, which when upgraded can compete and offer an alternative to the more established brands!

[@JohnR32111]

Regardless of the inaccurate description you did see that you were buying a Stratocaster shape didnt you? Strats have c shaped necks and are not commonly known as shred style guitars. It is annoying that their descriptionsare wrong but the guitar is in the strat section of their style categories.

[@thebaldshredder]

You do know that Charvel has an entire line of strat shaped guitars with thin neck profiles and jumbo frets that are specifically built for "lightning fast speeds" right? So the strat shaped body isn't a given that it will have a huge chunky neck and tiny frets. It should be stated in the description. Regardless, it's still a pretty good guitar for that price outside of those two issues.

[@theguitarrabbi7173]

Lol, yeah when it comes to guitars from that area of the world it is important to realize at times things aren’t what it seems. I donno if the factory before they sent it to Thomann with their specs they were just like “yeah ok” “what neck do we put on it” “it doesn’t matter” lol. Hey, like yourself I am a fan of Chibsons wanna come on my program for a Chibson interview one week?

[@thebaldshredder]

I'm sure the Chinese factory doesn't care, but Thomann should. If they can't get the specs correct, they should at least change the description. Thanks, but I'll take a pass on the interview.

[@theguitarrabbi7173]

@@thebaldshredder agreed. And no worries on the interview brother. Keep up the good work. Love your videos

[@metaldude7914]

Get a Jackson dude!

[@Lotastic_Films]

Well, Harley Benton is cheap... For a reason. I'm not really surprised that this guitar completely failed to deliver. My advise: Instead of getting a new HB, try to get a good but used guitar. You can get pretty sweet deals, if you search long enough.

[@PegeCovers]

You misunderstood him completely. Price has nothing to do with this situation. It has everything to do with the design philosophy. If you're going to be critical, at least criticize the right thing. Which is them misleading us. That's what's the issue here.

[@Lotastic_Films]

@@PegeCovers I did get the part with the misleading description. HB is probably too cheap to write an accurate one. And I have to admit, I'm not an HB fan myself. Not one guitar that I have tried so far was good or at least okay

[@PegeCovers]

@@Lotastic_Films I like the honesty. I do not agree with the cheapness affecting their advertising. But I am willing to bet that they write these descriptions quite hastily and that leads to this dumb situation. Anyway, I checked your profile and I like your playing so I subbed.

[@Lotastic_Films]

@@PegeCovers Thank you 😘

[@thebaldshredder]

Yeah totally. Honestly I just got this guitar for the purposes of reviewing on my channel because I know it's a popular brand. I didn't really need it. My best guitar right now, my Charvel DK24, I got used on ebay and it was a killer deal! Thanks for watching.

[@TonyFuentesTV]

Hahahahaahah 👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks Tony!

[@bobdeluxeandtheideals1356]

Cool

[@BoltRM]

What turned me off re: the previous video was the title "I'm NEVER buying another Harley Benton." which leads one to believe you are judging all HBs based on 1 guitar. I totally agreed those frets were not jumbo at all & the neck was thick, completely contrary to their description, which is a HUGE red flag. 😡

[@thebaldshredder]

Nope not judging all HBs other than this one. How could I? What I am judging is the company. And I'm entitled to do that, just like anyone else. I made this second video to make it a little more clear to the people that were upset. And to be honest, if you want to get people's attention, you have the make the titles/thumbnails a bit controversial. It's part of the KZbin game. Thanks for watching.

[@sixpenske1940]

Actually the description doesnt say Jumbo or any size frets so thats not really falsely described or at least i didnt see it in their website description , i have bought multiple HB guitars from Thomann and loved all of them. I do have to say your wrong about their customer service i have had them send me guitars with slight imperfections and they let me keep the bad guitar and sent a replacement at no charge expediently so cant agree there sad that your basing it on one low end guitar and then comparing it to Jackson and Ibanez guitars Their higher end stuff is actually really good.

[@thebaldshredder]

First of all, thanks for watching. Ok, I made the second video because a lot of people missed the point the first time around. I guess I need to go over it again for you. Fret size is not stated in the description. However, there is an implication when you use words like "lightning fast" and "virtuoso." Why did I mention Jackson and Ibanez? Come on, you can do this. Because those guitars are built for "lightning fast speeds." Right? And those guitars have what kind of frets? That's right, JUMBO. So describing a guitar as lightning fast, yet it has tiny little frets? I mean if you don't see the problem there, I guess you just don't get it. And then you start talking about YOUR experience with the company. Yet I explicitly said multiple times that this has nothing to do with you and your HB guitar. Did you hear me say that? Your experience with them has been great. Happy for you. But again, that has nothing to do with me and this case. And then you mention it's a low end guitar, which I talked about. Seriously did you watch the whole video? The two things, neck profile and fret size, have NOTHING to do with it being on the low end. Jackson has $149 guitars with thin necks and jumbo frets. That's the reason for the comparison. If you still don't understand, I don't know what to say. Again, thanks for watching.

[@sixpenske1940]

@@thebaldshredder lol ok seems you got it all figured out, so you should have expected the kickback right? to make a 2nd video ( I didn't see the 1st btw) and state right off the bat that you don't want to hear negative feedback is hilariously dumb, your going to have different opinions with anything if you didn't want to hear them in a video explaining that from the recourse if a 1st video there is a shut off comments option I believe . Secondly in no way do the words virtuoso and lightning fast speeds imply the same thing to everyone I have seen virtuosic playing done on the fattest of necks with small frets, not everyone thinks your guitar setup is ideal to shredding seems like alot of close mindedness to me but hey at least you tube's algorithm found my interest in HB and your 1 bad experience enough to put you up top of my video list

[@thebaldshredder]

@@sixpenske1940 yeah not everyone agrees with me on ideal setup to shredding, just Charvel, Jackson, Ibanez, ESP, etc. Yeah but not everyone. And of course I expected the complaining from the HB fanboys. That was a given.

[@PegeCovers]

Even though they f'd up with this specific model (the main audience this guitar is going for does not like the specs of this instrument), it would still be fine for a beginner. At least for me it would have been. But the better you get, the more you see this type of stuff and the more it annoys you. If I got this thinking it's a metal shredding machine, I'd be a bit annoyed too, lol. Then again, I already have the B E S T metal shredding machine (Ibanez Xiphos), so I guess I could live with the disappointment.

[@thebaldshredder]

Well I guess a beginner wouldn't notice because they don't know the difference. But it would harder for them to play without even realizing it. Thanks for watching.

[@PegeCovers]

@@thebaldshredder You're correct. And yea, they would have zero clue. That kind of knowledge only comes with experience.

[@dawnr8511]

Website now states neck profile: Modern C. The neck profile doesn't mean much to me cause I could play a 2x4 piece of lumber with strings. Like, what would you expect from Harley Benton? It's a Harley Benton! Just like the Sam Ash house brand called Brownsville - bodies like soft and mushy like balsa wood so the trem posts don't hold, sometimes even cracking the body wood. Real purdy though, before they self destruct.

[@josefgottfriedrainer3032]

Hello, if you are honest and fair to yourself then you would have taken this video down as this is your first time buying this one guitar from Thomann and you never mentioned being able to return or exchange the guitar at no extra cost ! Greetings from Austria

[@thebaldshredder]

The return is not "at no extra cost" as you say. I would have to pay for return shipping, so I would lose at least $70. And everything I said in this video is 100% true and honest. The company even emailed me after this to apologize and said that I was right.

[@josefgottfriedrainer3032]

@@thebaldshredder Ok, have a good Time 👍🙋‍♂️

[@timbopie4504]

Buuuttt....what if the German folks like those attributes for shredding?!! Hmm...well?!! 😂

[@thebaldshredder]

Well? I guess they will love this guitar then!

[@timbopie4504]

@@thebaldshredder lol...I'd say you're correct.

[@keithsmith9115]

Well said, and every word rings true from H.B. to Gibson. Period. Who knows, maybe you just got a bad fluke of their product, maybe that is their standard. I have no experience with them, but either way to me what is unforgivable is lack of response to a paying customer. Anyone hear of customer retention? Strange concept i know, but why would you even consider giving their more expensive line a try if this is how you're treated. Gives the impression of "we already got that suckers money" kinda vibe. Not saying that is true, but it is a poor look. Don't blame you. Thank you for vid, have been researching them to consider buying 1.

[@thebaldshredder]

Thanks

[@joesmith5617]

Is it just me but I just really don’t care how fat the neck is I like it skinny but I don’t mind a thicker neck

[@thebaldshredder]

I think everybody has their preferences. It just depends on the person.

[@Thrashpotato]

naw your right (sorry for all the comments im commenting as im watching)

[@howardperlin3016]

It’s pretty

[@AaronMorgan666]

Dang it, I was hoping you'd get the knock off slipknot guitar. It's the all black strat, reverse headstock with active supposedly emg knockoffs. My only experience with thomann/harley benton is the 1x12 speaker with a Chinese v30 (as opposed to the British v30). Was good. I would still buy from them again. Sucks they lost you. You're a budget buying machine!

[@porterdaniel5513]

You're a paying customer, that bought said guitar with the idea that our was gonna be a certain way. That means EVERYTHING!! I mean why shouldn't you expect to get what you paid for

[@thebaldshredder]

Exactly! It's nice to see that someone understands.

[@porterdaniel5513]

@@thebaldshredder sorry I just reread my post, and I meant IT was gonna be not our. Don't know where that came from lol. Glad you understood lol. People just let too much go and not hold companies responsible for their words. I get it.

[@Alfredo78666]

This ingibijual guichar is not for the virchuoso

[@stephenjones9153]

So when you write a D do you make sure it's flat in the middle of the curve ??.🤔 I never write a D with a flat. Even if it's a Db, D flat, I still write the D without any flat in the middle of the D. 😉😊 Also if it was a C is it really a C or just an O with the middle bit on the right missing 🤔. Or maybe it's a C with a flatter left side and not a D.😂🤣😂🤣

[@Thrashpotato]

heck I like the guitar,...lol

[@swere1240]

they should change it to she thicc in the description

[@xenophonkirby]

And you said it wasn't a personal attack on HB? Of course it is. Any guitar can be played fast so all that mumbo junbo about neck and frets is irrelevant. BTW, all companies exaggerate their products. It's called marketing.

[@thebaldshredder]

😂 nice. I see you know very little about guitars. It's also called lying.

[@xenophonkirby]

@@thebaldshredder ...Thanks for the review. Although I think you were a bit hard on HB, it's good to know we can agree and disagree on some things. You have a new follower in me. Cheers.

[@xenophonkirby]

@@thebaldshredder ...I know quite a lot about guitars...don't go assuming. I own over 130 guitars.

[@thebaldshredder]

@@xenophonkirby thanks mate! Yes we can agree to disagree.

[@jeffadams2767]

W t f does anyone know about a entry level guitars either you want to play or you don't if you buy peace of crap that's what you got

[@joesmith5617]

Your entry level guitar isnt going to be much good for that money try a harley benton over the im broke mark or beginer mark and youll get something good from indonesia but the cheaper stuff is from china also bare in mind those 300 dollar guitars have locking tuners and stainless steal frets and are made in the same factories as esp and schecter try and upgrade trust me

[@thefuneralparade]

That thing looks just like th guitar you designed custom from china except they screwed up th fingerboard...lol.

[@thebaldshredder]

yes a lot of similar features, but no where near as good

[@SixStringPirate]

I couldn't tell who you were more mad at , the premature commenters or the guitar description lol. All in all it sounds like a fair review to me. My guess is they received thousands of e-mails from guitar players just looking to dumpster on them because of the price tag or because they copy xyz brand. They aren't going to lose sleep over someone who purchased on guitar. If it had been someone who they know is a big time customer or influencer with a large user base (not making a dig there) they probably would acknowledge it. Usually those product descriptions are written by someone who doesn't know much about guitars and is just given some buzz words to make it sound exciting. I have been on the fence about buying a HB guitar so it's nice to see someone giving a bit more of a fair review rather than some dopey KZbinr trying to cop free gear for an ass kissing video. Keep it up!

[@thebaldshredder]

Excellent reply my friend! Nice to read a well thought out response. I know I'm still small potatoes, so no dig taken. I didn't expect them to reply. And yeah, pretty sure I'll never be offered any free HB gear after this. LOL

[@strategicthinker8899]

Harley Benton sucks. I should know. I bought two. Both damaged from factory and terrible quality. Their post-sale customer service is also horrible. Once they have your money they don't care. Their purported quality control is fake and non-existent. I buy use Epiphones and new Squires instead.

[@WaleshiddenhistoryMD]

You want to learn how to edit videos instead of zooming in and out all the time,, it's making me feel sick

[@thebaldshredder]

Ha ha, you want to not watch Davie504 videos. You're head would explode. lol

[@MikyILdecre]

So Thomann did a mistake ok... so? You can give it back, get refund, and report it so they can change it. You need to do a video on that because...??? I think you are the classic guy that blames everything. Fussy? Pedant? Well you get the idea. There is no point on arguing on that. Give it back and do us a favor. From all the musicians, with heart.

[@tperry5839]

😂🤣🤣🤣

[@Wejohnsn]

the first min was a waste of my time and yours

[@munkuukle5665]

all hb guitars are just waste of money PERIOD

[@swere1240]

they should change it to she thicc in the description

[@thebaldshredder]

After this video, they did. And they apologized to me.