Updated guide to starting the Salty Boeing 747-8i from cold and dark in Microsoft Flight Simulator

[@CharlesDouse-l5q]

Great explanation, I did manage to follow the original video last night for my first ever attempt to fly a 747. Everything worked until the dreaded loss of all the displays! After about 3 secs they did reappear however the flight plan had been wiped... Because of your excellent commentaries giving all the background info I managed to get the AP set to return me to the airport and the approach programmed back in and a successful landing was achieved. Thank you so much.

[@jonbeckett]

Glad it helped!

[@mockingbird-media-uk]

fantastic video great to see the full cold and dark procedure for the 747 8i

[@ryanbarbosa3220]

The 747 is my favorite Civil aviation airplane. Its just so massive with big engines its great. I love it. Definitely big ups to the salty simulations 747 team they did a great job. Although i am probably going to try out there a320 soon. All ive flown on msfs/vatsim is the 747. I love me the 747 but wouldnt mind taking the 320 out eventually. Although we all know boeing is better then airbus. Because they make the F/A-18- hornet that is my favorite airplane ever and i fly that as well in DCS and its great

[@mikecoffee100]

the Aeroplane may not be study level but these videos are so it works out in the end

[@jonbeckett]

Hah - I think the real thing may be a good deal more complex than this video illustrates :)

[@philbenton5679]

Great job as usual, Jonathan. Thanks for doing this.

[@jonbeckett]

No worries!

[@samuelli-a-sam]

Loved the tutorial very well explained man!

[@gamerking0993]

Great video but the atc kept wondering why i was sitting on the runway for 28 minutes while screaming back at him saying "iM nEw gIVe mE a BrEak!"

[@GulfCoastTim]

Good video explaining all of this. I've only flown the default 747 so I'll need to try that salty mod. That livery is really nice for it.

[@mikecoffee100]

Morninggg good to watch this videos I must say

[@jonbeckett]

You're welcome :)

[@lvwpy]

Great video! Loved to see that clean EICAS this time! Also, I wonder how will this version compare against the incoming AAU2 update...

[@jonbeckett]

We shall see!

[@johnearl8254]

There are a few additional issues if they could be fixed it would be useful. Firstly, if you set the barometric pressure at the airport altitude by pressing "B", the yellow hatching on the altitude tape stays at the standard pressure position so this means you cannot use that as an indication of when you are at airport level when landing. Secondly, I cannot find any means of "Speed Intervene" or "Altitude intervene" when in VNAV mode. The only way of manually adjusting the speed is by using SPD and of adjusting altitude is by using FLCH or V/S, both modes of control disable VNAV. Also the CANCL/RCL message button is not implemented. As an aside, I haven't tried it because I can set TOGA at take off from a button on my joystick, but if you set the A/T to ON stand up the throttles manually for take off and then press THR , the throttles should advance to TOGA thrust. I must try it with the "SALTY". I am using the c583e54 development version.

[@jonbeckett]

You should only use "B" to set local barometric pressure - obviously on approach to an airport you then have to look it up :) The 747 is missing a lot of functionality in the avionics - it's not study level :)

[@SenseiDeJovenes]

Sir, thank you 🙏

[@ELR1-C]

This guide has really helped me to get this bird into the air, so many thanks to you for producing it. I do have a issue that I can't seem to solve. I've scoured the web for a answer, so hopefully you or someone else can help? When I'm finally in the air and on route, I'm getting a audible warning what sounds like it's saying Minimums! Any help would be appreciated. Clear skies to all.

[@josefrancisconunesmarconde614]

The only thing I would change, would be starting the engines looking at the N2 not at N1

[@jankeuris6805]

Indeed great explanation but why do you use the N1 RPM and dont you use the Engine page on the lower EICAS to show the N2 rotation speed which is used for monitoring during manual and Auto engine start in real world.

[@jonbeckett]

Because the 747 isn't realistic (yet) - that may all change later this year if PMDG get a move on :)

[@mauriciovillada2028]

some comments Where did you get the information of checking N1 to switch the fuel ON? If you are doing autostart there is no need to do it Second the stab trim is not an elevator trim. It does not move the elevators like the trim tabs in a cessna 152 but it changes the position of the whole stabilizer on the tail . Most jets nowadays only have aileron and rudder trims not elevator trims third does this salty aircraft have any electronic checklists unfortunately you said you were going to review checklist but i did not see any of them. checklist are different than amplified procedures checklist are to check items already done .

[@carsparrr]

Nice, whats with the payload?

[@LuisArgerich]

I would love a vid about the Salty 747 and the new AAU2 WT 747 Beta. Can we use both? If yes, how. If no then which option is better? The WT guys have done a lot of work and the Salty guys also have done a lot of work. It could be great to use both.

[@jonbeckett]

I'm not in the beta programme - when the AAU2 update lands, I'll be doing videos looking at both the 747 and the 787.

[@Rookblunder]

Came here because I really enjoy your feedback from you and the viewers. Im having one problem with the salty plane because when the engines start I cant stop the plane. the brakes are just holding it but I cant taxi normally because the plane just wants to go into the airport at gate. Any help would be appreciated. On a side note I was able to take off but I was not on the runway because the plane just took off, however to land and taxi I was ok. I didn't have the big boost that the engines were doing at start up.

[@jonbeckett]

Salty probably need to update their mod. I haven't bothered with it for a while because the default 747 is now pretty good.

[@Rookblunder]

Hmm gonna check out the default. Thx@@jonbeckett

[@Izmael1310]

How does it hold up at the end of 2023? Is this still better than the updated 748 by Asobo? Thank you.

[@jonbeckett]

I've not used Salty since MSFS updated the stock 747 - so I can't comment.

[@nicov4279]

i remember when the startup list where free, what happened to that

[@pilotalex5677]

Thanks for the video update. I heard VS mode was exclusively used for descent and FLC / IAS for climb. Isnt that the case ?

[@jonbeckett]

IAS can be used for both. In the real world, the crew use all the tools available in the most pragmatic way given whatever circumstances they're facing. Remember - in the real world it's very common to get vectored, or put in a hold.

[@notta3d]

From the thumbnail I thought it was an actual Soul Plane.

[@cdcastil]

Hi, I can't turn on the 747 tablet. How do you turn it on?

[@briand9446]

Is Salty compatible with the new beta updates from Working Title?

[@jonbeckett]

I have absolutely no idea :) You may see a very rapid - re-do of this video :)

[@HeroDoge154]

Probably not. AAU2 may even make the Salty 747 obsolete sadly

[@ramathorn82]

For some reason the VNAV light doesn’t illuminate on.

[@barrythinn2811]

Brakes RTO

[@sybeck1823]

You didn't set the AUTOBRAKE for a RTO.

[@jonbeckett]

I know :)

[@MrTontowatkins]

I can't get it to follow the nav system for s***

[@franta1001]

why do I have a pilot wearing glasses in the cockpit and I can't get rid of them - can someone help....thanks

[@CharlesDouse-l5q]

Oh and I am using an xbox controller only to make things a bit harder lol

[@Mo-ij8re]

why don’t I have the salty button ?

[@Rookblunder]

plane shuts off when Im taking too long

[@jonbeckett]

Yes - that will happen. The battery will go flat. You need to get the APU running.

[@michaelmm4684]

That aircraft look pretty sad….it’s a bad copy of the real 747-8 …hopefully they can convince PMDG to finalize the their 747-8 for MSFs

[@jonbeckett]

It's free :)