Upgraded Harley-Davidson Suspension that Won't Break the Bank

Harley-Davidson is not know for suspension, even new the suspension systems leave a lot to be desired. Riding a Sportster or Dyna you likely know this all too well, even the older touring models with air suspension have their fair share of issues. But if you've looked into upgrading or replacing your suspension you've likely been left with some sticker shock. The good news is you don't have to turn some no name off brand either. Progressive suspension offers some excellent alternatives, a good warranty and much improved ride that won't leave you with a credit card bill.
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[@GixxerFoo]

Have you upgraded the suspension on your Harley yet? What suspension did you go with?

[@Trooper738]

Legends front & Rear shocks Dealer charges $400.00 - $500.00 to install the front shocks and $300.00 for the rear shock installation! Talk about sticker shock!!!

[@64Goef]

On the front I installed Hyperpro suspension, Dutch company. Set up is specially for the HD Touring. Rear still the standard air shocks. Not great but for now still ok. Regular checks if the air remains at pressure. Hyperpro rear shocks on the wishing list. 😊

[@ognomem]

ohlins in rear to replace those stock air shocks. We like the ohlins. Front is stock till I talk myself into replacing them (soon). I found that one of the biggest improvement in ride came from a new set of tires.

[@aaronbrooks7106]

I went with the race tec emulators on the front end of all my harleys and a little bit stiffer springs. This is a huge improvement, with doing the work yourself it will run about 350 if I remember right. This includes new seals and bushings and oil, it takes about an afternoon with taking your time.

[@lovingmylifeasIage6741]

I went with Legends 13" for my Iron 1200. Since my legs are so short I went with a 1" lowering blocks. The best upgrade that I have done. This is the second set of shocks that I went with. The first was the progressive's stock size shocks. They weren't any better then the originals to me. They were the 412 progressives.

[@jeffuda3638]

I broke the bank by going with revo a 13 inch heavy duty on my 21 SG,yes i ride over 500lbs at times,i adjust the sag 1 inch like they said to do,no matter if i ride solo or 2 up couldn't be any happier without any bottoming out anymore. I did tried the progressive 412 and i had to returned them because it bottomed out riding solo. Break the bank to get the best and forget the rest because by the time you have to replace the shocks equals the price for the expense ones just like buying a cheap gas grill it not going to last as long as a weber. Lol

[@Prairie_Barbarian]

I run a pair of Drag Specialties branded ride/height adjustable shocks. They're made by Progressive too. They're no Ohlins, but they ain't stock either lol. I've been pretty pleased with them, especially for being about $250.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks for the info! Do they still carry the Progressive warranty?

[@ryanroads7748]

I purchased the same shocks for my 2010 Road Glide high quality and sweet price...Dennis Kirk $275.00!

[@Mark-mm1ke]

My 2014 SGS is the second bike now I’ve put Terry Cable shocks on. OEM is 2” of travel, and these, with out changing the ride height, give and extra 1” for 3” of travel. Bike does not bottom out and the ride is great. But I did not stop there. I changed out the front fork dampener with one from Terry Cable. Did as much front end as the rear shocks did. Same springs and oil. Now my bike rides incredible. OEM’s are harsh at slow speed and mushy at high speed. This make the bike handle like a Ferrari. :) Smooth running down the road and tight in the twisties. Best of both worlds. If you find him at any of the bike shows, he’ll change out your shocks on site and typically gives discounts too. Highly recommend these two in combo. Killer set up. And thanks for another great video.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! I've been hearing more and more about those Terry Cable products, they aren't too bad on the price either!

[@Mark-mm1ke]

@@GixxerFoo No, not too bad. I think I paid $650 for the first set and a little more for the second. The great thing too is that he customs makes the shock to fit your weight. Then does the pre load. That change in the front fork dampener was really something though. Made the bike handle incredible. And it's not svelte by any measure! LOL GL

[@josevalencia5145]

I run the 430's on my Dyna. Good shocks for sure. They dampen nicely without feeling bouncy. Been running them about three years with no problems too.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome! They are lifetime warranty too, big improvement over stock!

[@mechcavandy986]

Me too.

[@billgonzales8978]

my dyna progressive springs in front in back race tec springs what difference jims 120 motor 6 speed tranny lock up clutch so far 143 MPH very powerful Harley

[@kerrylewis2581]

Almost everyone I know or have met does not think twice about changing their suspension. That baffles me (no exhaust pun intended) because it transforms your ride. Buy once cry once is something I read and agree with 100%. Buy the most you can afford even if it means delaying your purchase. I also recommend a shock that can be rebuilt like the baseline Ohlins S36e emulsion shocks. They also custom-fit the spring weight to your riding style, rider weight, and motorcycle. They can be purchased for $600 list or less if you shop around.

[@GixxerFoo]

Everyone want to build the motor but they really over look the suspension. Yes it's expensive, but I usually hear it's the best investment I ever made once it's done.

[@kerrylewis2581]

@@GixxerFoo Most want chrome and loud exhaust, then comes cams and engine mods, and last but not least the suspension. My Ohlins suspension front and rear are worth every dollar I paid. The stock suspension is not worth its weight in scrap.

[@hawkdsl]

I updated mine with Progressive.. You just have to hold your nose on price... With both hands. It's absolutely criminal for some of those prices. Even the base hardware is ridiculous. Having said that, if you lay some serious miles on your ride, it'll be worth it. It's one of those items that's not a bad idea to open a small savings account for... and auto drop 10 bucks a week in it. Do it over the winter, and you'll have the cash for the spring sales.. No pun intended.

[@GixxerFoo]

It really is, I have never heard anyone have regrets spending a couple grand on suspension. It's extremely expensive, but even just saving for a set of Progressive shocks is a huge improvement over the stock suspension.

[@skyhill4279]

I fitted a pair of Progressive shocks and Progressive fork springs to my 77 XLH Sportster back in 1980, what a difference they make to the ride along with a pair of Continental Cont-blitz tyres. A much better handling machine to the stock setup! Great videos!

[@jeremymacklem2510]

Right at $2k for Legends front and rear with air ride on my 2000 Deuce. Best upgrade I have done to date. Worth every penny to turn my softail into a Cadillac 👌

[@GixxerFoo]

Couldn't agree more! I've never heard anyone regret spending that kinda money on suspension!

[@scottarmstrong1172]

I bought my first set of progressive shocks back about 1988 for my '79 Bonneville. Been a big fan ever since. It's hard to beat them for the price. I have a set of the monotube cartridges in my soft tail now. You didn't mention them as an upgrade for the front, but they are reasonably priced and a definite improvement. Great video, as always.

[@GixxerFoo]

They have some fork spring kits, l am actually looking at a set for my bike. My front end is too soft, l'd like just little more in the front since it dives hard under braking.

[@scottarmstrong1172]

@@GixxerFoo That will definitely take care of your brake dive, especially braking into turns. Typical progressive deal, softer on the top and stiffer as you go down. I hammer the back roads pretty hard so I like it a little on the stiff side.

[@tommyweese5697]

When I was finally fed up of bottoming out my dyna, I started replacing everything springy. Got fork springs from progressive and ordered some eBay special jbs hd rear shocks figured it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if they were crap for 150 bucks. Slapped it all together and had to move the forks up a tad in the triple trees. Got it all adjusted and it’s night and day difference. With a passenger it’s extremely smooth in the back. With just me at 230lbs they are a little rough but a lot better than the stock shocks. Highly recommend. Also don’t be afraid to adjust the nitrogen pressure in them if you have a tank. Mine run perfect at about 20psi. They came with about 80 in them. So just get everything dialed in and it’ll ride like a dream

[@GixxerFoo]

Having the suspension dialed in I can't say enough about, even getting the stock suspension some what setup with the limited adjustment makes a huge difference. Glad to hear you got your bike all dialed in now!

[@tommyweese5697]

I think I’m gonna order some preload adjusters for the front soon before I change out the fork oil. We will see how it goes

[@michaellobdell7064]

2001 Road King I just installed the Progressive monotube fork kit and Drag Specialties hight adjustable shocks. Someone commented on the Drag S. Made by progressive? These are better shocks than the 412s! For $25 less. I'm happy about that. Rock on Gixxerfoo!

[@GixxerFoo]

They are made by Progressive, not a bad deal at all being even cheaper! Sounds like you got one hell of suspension setup now!

[@davidfellows6250]

i put a 14 inch 412 on my roadking and they are at least twice as good as the stock air ride. one caution you'll want to do something with your forks because now you can see how bad they are. for me it was just an oil change and adding 3/8 to the spacer sleeve. warning you'll fight to get the caps started. ps even though im only 180#s i ride with my 90# pitbull so i got the heavy dutys and am glad.

[@x07mcmlxxiv]

On my last Electra CVO 2012 I have put some Bitubo Dyna 13,5" heavy duty shocks for 380€ with oil and nitrogen. It was a very good ride. Bitubo is a Italian company who is doing racing suspension. Now I brought a FXDL 2017 with FXRT fairing, club style and has Works Performance Pro Racing heavy duty shocks on....I still try to finde the best setting for the ride. When the shocks are lacking on settings are bad, when they have to many are lot worst....

[@GixxerFoo]

Sounds like you have some sweet rides, having more adjustment can be a bad thing too. You have all kinds of room to work with and finding the perfect settings can be tough.

[@chrisbryant9621]

I put Road King air shocks on both my Sportster and my Dyna. Also, I drilled the fork caps on the Sportster, tapped and threaded for schrader valves. With Harley's hand pump I put 14lbs. in the shocks and 6lbs. in the forks. Huge improvement over stock.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's a really popular setup with the Road King air shocks! That's not a bad idea at all installing he schrader valve on your forks, a little air in there would make a huge difference.

[@chrisbryant9621]

@@GixxerFoo "a little air" is correct. 8lbs too much. 4lbs too little.

[@GixxerFoo]

👍 l learned my lesson on air forks real quick with my 1984 RM80 as a kid 😄😂. I put a little air in the forks and it about killed me, it was solid lol.

[@OCruz-vc5vr]

I did a set of fox suspension. For my 12 fatbob and im super happy with them. Best choices i made by purchase these...

[@GixxerFoo]

Very nice! Fat Bob is a dang good handling bike, even better after what you did to it!

[@ryanlerch5926]

I put 412s on my 99 wide glide n it made a huge difference, rides better than it did new, put 430s on my 08 road king n there really stiff but they've only been on for a few miles

[@GixxerFoo]

Once those 430's break in it's gonna ride real nice, they are bit more expensive but the 430 is my pick.

[@Tarfawn]

Excellent video. I did a full replacement a couple of years ago with Progressive products. I put in the 444 series shocks and the monotube kit in my forks. Big improvement for my 2011 dyna superglide. The shocks are really good and significantly improved stability in cornering at higher speeds. The monotube kit greatly improved handling and feel. I only wish they offered a slightly heavier spring for the monotube kit. I'm a bigger guy 225+ and I have to have the preload cranked all the way up to max avoid bottoming out the forks on bigger bumps.

[@GixxerFoo]

That's the same reason I am looking at new springs on my forks, big bumps and they will bottom out and shock your hands. I imagine that bike handles really good with all that suspension work, it's well worth the investment!

[@deantaylor1512]

Recently swapped out my type e for screaming eagle and yes your right ... way to stiff.. the roads here in uk have gotten pretty bad recently.. to many pot holes and rutted...hit one of those and it’s transmitted through the frame.. Will def swap back to type e quite soon .

[@GixxerFoo]

I tried that myself too just to see if I could get away with it, front end was like a rock!

[@Junior-fd8ux]

Ive been eyeing these up for a while.Im going for a set of 430s in chrome for my Fxrc. Cant wait to feel the difference because my originals from 87 aren't in the best shape.

[@GixxerFoo]

The 430's will be a huge upgrade over the old stock suspension!

[@shep68]

Progressive 412s get mixed reviews at best. Believe it or not the premium adjustable shocks from Harley get reviewed quite well. Especially when removing those air shocks standard on the Rushmore touring bikes. Even these are $600 now which ain’t cheap but still better than most aftermarkets. Including several of the Progressive line.

[@me2u2aswell]

Thanks for the heads up Foo, you always got us covered.

[@GixxerFoo]

Anytime, I've never had anyone regret a suspension upgrade.

[@williamwgardner9375]

My 07 Dyna low rider makes on hell of a clunk on big bumps. I think the 430s sound good . Think the stock Harley shocks bottom real easy. Thanks for your videos .!

[@MrBarman650]

Worth considering the UK company Hagon. Their Nitro series are stainless and completely rebuildable. They're relatively cheap and the guys at Hagon will chat with you all day until you get what's right for your riding style. I run Nitros on my 2015 Street Glide and the 2 up touring comfort and handling is second to none (and no, I don't work for the company, I live in France 😁😁).

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome! I'll have to check them out, hopefully they are available across the pond too!

[@MrBarman650]

@@GixxerFoo I believe they are 👍

[@iantaylor7840]

I live in the U.K. I fitted Hagon Stainless Steel fully enclosed rear shocks to my super low mileage Dyna Superglide. I also pre loaded the front forks with a 1 inch solid steel slug and 350 ml of auto trans fluid. Also replaced the crap US Dunlop tyres with Pirelli tyres. It transformed the bike massively, it can be ridden hard and fast with very little adverse reaction. But in any final analysis; streets ahead of the stock setup.

[@GixxerFoo]

I'm not a huge fan of Dunlop tires either, we call them Dunflops here. Pirelli tires are awesome, which ones did you go with? Sounds like you've got a sweet ride, I bet you've got a lot twisty to roads to play on over there!

[@chrisbryant9621]

@@GixxerFoo Maybe your next video should be on tires comparing grip, mileage and cost. I run Dunlop tires, get good mileage and have no complaint. Guess I'm now demanding much from them. Keep up the good work!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! Tires are a dangerous subject like oil 😄😂. But there is a difference, buy cheap tires change them twice as often. Pay a little more and get more, l am willing to venture into dangerous territory.

[@iantaylor7840]

@@GixxerFoo Hi, I went with Pirelli Dragon Sport on the rear and Pirelli Sport Demon on the front. They aren’t available to fit the Superglide Dyna as a matched pair, but I prefer the stickier front anyway. But they give confidence in the corners. Coupled to the Hagon adjustable rear shocks and the preloaded front fork springs and auto trans fluid, the combo has ironed out the pogo effect and vague feedback of the stock Dunlop’s. Lots of twisty backroads in the U.K.

[@davidwarren9204]

Good overview, many thanks :) Absolutely agree re the 412s. I put OEM-length 412s on my 2011 Dyna years ago, and still use them (plus a Progressive spring in the front). They are not brilliant, cutting-edge performance. BUT, in my humble (though extensive) experience they are the minimum setup HD SHOULD have put on its bikes as standard. The OEM Dyna suspension was so woefully bad it was, (again imho) actually dangerous:(

[@mike2696]

Brother from another mother I’ve got a 2011 dxdc 96cui dyna ……. Gonna look into these shocks( was thinking 🤔 ohlins but the price😳😳😳😳)

[@dereknapier1132]

I’m running Terry Cable Ultra Lows on my Road King. Great customer service!

[@GixxerFoo]

I haven't heard much about those, they look really nice! How do they ride?

[@VONDOOM88]

2004 flht , put fox shox street performance in the front forks & i got a set of Ohlins for the rear off of my brothers co-worker for 350 bucks The difference is mind blowing.

[@USMC10241771]

You're killing it dude. Your videos have been really helpful as I build out a '07 fxd. I appreciate it, hope to see more!

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! What all you got going on that FXD?

[@USMC10241771]

​@@GixxerFoo I changed the front suspension to a progressive cartridge system. Modified some 2004 13-spoke mags to go on. Some MX style bars with about 8" of rise. Fresh brake fluid. Rear suspension is probably next, or changing the long ass 2 into 2 out for a short 2 into 1 exhaust. Once all that is out of the way, I think the stunt cage is next, then the chain conversion. I don't think I'm gonna do anything beyond stage 1 to the engine.

[@busted_dyna8580]

@@USMC10241771 the drag specialties shocks are better than stock and won't break the bank. Somewhere around 270 I believe. Super shox and hagon nitros are decent options as well.

[@busted_dyna8580]

@@USMC10241771 or you could probably find a used set of fxdx shocks if you're pinching pennies

[@USMC10241771]

@@busted_dyna8580 I'm probably gonna go with the Drag Specialties ones. I'm unsure about heavy duty or standard springs, or if it matters. I'm not heavy, but putting a lot of demand on the rear suspension with some... 'performance' riding =P

[@ronetuley]

Great information, buying shocks for your bike can be very scary due to the high $$ price’s. Keep up the awesome tech videos. Ride safe my friend.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks! Will do! All the other companies have great products but they are insanely expensive.

[@vikingmetalindustries233]

I have a set of heavy duty 412s on my softail and they are amazing

[@TheXcr800dude]

I have a 1987 FXR. I found a 99 sportster sport front end. The forks have pre load, compression, and rebound adjustments. Going to replace rear shocks. I thinking maybe ohlins. Ken at the New England motorcycle has built many FXRs . Have not hit the jack pot yet. Some day soon.

[@shane8037]

Man I got the Progressive 412s but I didn't do my research and got the heavy duty. I weigh like a buck fifty and my old lady ran off years ago so I ride solo. I'll replace them eventually, I think I want them a hair taller anyway (got the 13.5" ones). They do ride like struts but it doesn't really bother me that much.

[@GixxerFoo]

Dang yeah solo on a lighter bike with the heavy duty shocks that will ride like a brick.

[@andycarrillo1477]

You're right--my '09 Sportster 1200C stock shocks were crap, so I bought a set of 13" Super Shox. What a difference, and a lifetime warranty to boot! Hope you check them out, hopefully for an upcoming video. BTW, who is the artist in your end bumper music? Love that haunting voice! Thanks for your great videos, my go to for my recent SE second-stage torque cam, billet aluminum cam plate, and high capacity oil pump upgrade. Woke my RGU right up!

[@ozziejim8472]

That’s an extra 1 1/4 of travel over stock, that alone would’ve made a big difference!

[@andycarrillo1477]

@@ozziejim8472 Correct! Huge difference, much smoother ride over all.

[@shanetowne6530]

I'm very happy with $300 progressives. Just a quick spin to get ready for 2 up riding and good enough performance to drag the pegs.

[@GixxerFoo]

Progressive makes some damn good suspension and it's not ridiculously prices. Even their higher end products work damn good for about grand less than the competition.

[@shanetowne6530]

@@GixxerFoo i just found out burly brand is made by progressive. my girlfriend is starting to ride but we have to lower the sporty for her so that slammer kit is where its at.

[@Crowbar381]

I would LOVE to see a video on the pros and cons and effects of putting longer rear shocks on a bike, or shorter rear shocks. It’s a common practice so a comprehensive video would be awesome I have noticed people are putting longer rear shocks on the M8 Softails. Often 1” longer or more. What I don’t understand is how you can do this without totally disrupting how the bike’s suspension is designed to operate??? Surely a 1” longer shock will move the swing arm closer to the bump stops at one end ? and further away at the other ? This would result in the suspension often “topping out” and at the other end of travel the shock would over compress and get damaged or destroyed ?? as the bump stops wouldn’t be there to save it ?

[@GixxerFoo]

You get more suspension travel but you also raise the center of gravity at the same time. There's quite a bit to suspension, not a bad video idea at all.

[@Crowbar381]

@@GixxerFoo my apologies, I should have said longer “clevis” in my post above. The shocks I am seeing them fitting, don’t have any more travel, just a longer clevis. Also a bike like a M8 Softail has 4.4” of rear wheel travel, so no matter what shock is fitted ... that 4.4” range of travel isn’t going to change due to the bump stops at either end. So it makes sense that fitting a longer shock will give you more downward travel, as it lifts the back of the bike up and away from the bump stop it would hit when “bottoming out” but it will give you less upward travel before “topping out”. This is because it has moved the bike’s swing arm closer to that bump stop. So a longer shock is changing where the bike’s swing arm sits in its range of up and down travel

[@performancebagger3506]

Very impressed with the 412 Series Progressive rear coil overs we installed on 2021 RGS #performancebaggin build!!

[@GixxerFoo]

Progressive makes some very high quality suspension and it won't break the bank. It's not cheap, but when you look at say Legends for $2800 bucks Progressive's price isn't so bad lol.

[@scottmckeen3908]

Great information as always. Would love to hear you cover softail suspension when you get a chance.

[@bobortendahl989]

I saw Scotts question about Softails. I have a 2007 Fatboy that has Progressive 422's heavy duties on rear. I just installed Progressive fork cartridge kit in front forks. Best money I ever spent. Bike rides much better and handles alot better as well. Have put about 500 miles on front kits. 422's were on bike when I bought it .

[@scottmckeen3908]

@@bobortendahl989 thank you for the information, I appreciate it!

[@GixxerFoo]

Not many options on the Softail other than the 422 as Bob mentioned. Can't beat them, they retail for $575 which isn't bad at all compared to the other manufacturers.

[@scottmckeen3908]

@@GixxerFoo Thank you for confirming!

[@seanmurphy5988]

I have the progressive 430s on my 2012 street glide, in hindsight I wished I had spent more money and gone with the Olin's shocks I would have saved myself many hundred dollar bills

[@tetlow2]

I have a 10 street bob with progressive 412's on the rear. I just bought a racetech kit with the gold emulator valves. I haven't installed it yet because I am waiting on some more parts. I'm converting to dual disk. Got bearings too. I figure I'll rebuild the whole front end and only have to take it apart once. Next I'm gonna throw down for some cams and oil pump upgrade

[@GixxerFoo]

That's gonna be sweet when you get that front end done with the RaceTech parts! Dual discs are fricking awesome on Dyna's!

[@spencerb8609]

I got the 412's. Much improved ride

[@GixxerFoo]

412's are a huge improvement over the stock suspension, I just can't believe the price and the quality on them.

[@jimcharlton7869]

The one Harley type motor that scares Me? The S&S X motor! Those things RIP, baby! One guy up in Virginia City, Nevada has a 15oocc (?) in a 'racy frame' ( low bars, good suspension, tires, Brakes- Lightweight) A 'Bobber'? ( I don't know the lingo)But does that count? It's a very different engine architecture, made for Harleys. but - Verrry impressive. He's as Old as me- and I usually let him just sail On by me - and my 'rickey racer'... cubic inches- versus altitude.(4750 to 6300 feet gain)

[@GixxerFoo]

S&S is one of the few manufacturers of aftermarket Twin Cam style engines. S&S paid for rights from Harley, learned after the EVO about weak patents. That's why we see so many EVO clones out there on the market. Another solid twin cam designed engine is from JIMS, they have some serious race engines which produce close to 200 horsepower from a twin cylinder.

[@gasmann6746]

Thank you good info. About to fit the Shotgun Shock air shock to my 07 Deluxe supposed to be a good ride 👍🏻🇦🇺

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! Let me know what you think of it when you air shock installed!

[@johnliotta2583]

Ur vids r excellent. Knowledgeable. Put an external breather system from dk custom from ur vid. Thank you. And yes the new shelf IS looking very robust.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! That's awesome to hear, those external breathers make a big difference in the keeping the engine much cleaner!

[@arthurleino]

Thanks for this video! I need to replace the rear shocks on my 83 FXWG. The JC Whitney ones I put one long time ago are worn.

[@GixxerFoo]

These are some great options that aren't insanely expensive. I just can't believe what they want for a basic set from some companies.

[@luisoutumuro424]

Running a 422 on an '08 Rocker C with Heartland lowering suspension, fender and seat kits.

[@GixxerFoo]

You don't see many Rocker C's running around, that's a neat bike! I bet it rides nice with that 422 on there!

[@luisoutumuro424]

@@GixxerFoo It does! Even as low as it sits with the Heartland kit. 103 SEII. Vance & Hines Big Shots and a FuelPak 3. Dakota Digital instrumentation. Custom Dynamics lighting. 1.25" pullbacks. Partially debadged, just got a bunch of Kuryakyn mesh covers to complete the debadging. Arlen Ness 15" Big Disc rotor kit in the near future. Thanks for the big twin soft tail content. Appreciate it!

[@westcoast3595]

The shelf looks so much better

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you, it was long time coming!

[@leonardstanford1877]

If you are looking for a good riding bike you are exactly right it's awfully hard to beat progressive suspension products ! If you are looking full a tilt handling bike you do have to spend some cash ! I would love to have some Olin's suspension but that is huge money I've been running Race Tech front & rear on my FXR for some time now they will build you shocks & front end parts to match your weight . I'm pretty happy with my suspension been running it for 4 or 5 years now !

[@GixxerFoo]

Progressive is a huge improvement over stock, but anyone that's really put the money into the suspension I have never heard any regrets.

[@adamakins9748]

2003 Lowrider with 13" heavyduty have put 60K on them and still working like new except for a little bit of a squeak . nothing that my earbuds don't hide

[@GixxerFoo]

That's awesome! That's a lot of miles and they are still working!

[@adamakins9748]

@@GixxerFoo Yes forgot to mention it was the progressive 412's awesome shock I also dropped heavy duty front coils with heavy duty oil.. I ride mostly solo but like a stiff suspension.....on my 2014 SGS I'm really liking the stock set up..

[@hustle5150]

Great vid, but I wish you could have included shocks for Softails. Mine is a 2011 and Im not wanting to spend a ton.

[@life_behind_bars]

Would love to see a video on adjusting a softail suspension. I've done some research and from what I can find the lowest weight I can go with it is 180 lbs. I'm 150 lbs and I don't ever have a passenger. Just wondering if there are any options for my skinny ass🤣. Great Video as always!

[@GixxerFoo]

Oh dang yeah the Softails, pre Milwaukee 8 have that dual shock setup under there. I am about 150 myself too, even with the preload off they are stiff for me.

[@parkersgarage4216]

Best cheap upgrade for a sportster or dyna easy the air shocks off road kings etc. Go figure, I get my original 90 softail standard up and running and no love for softail suspension lol. Honestly it doesn't need it as it rides like a lazy boy lol. Good vid, my sportster came w 412's when I bought it.

[@GixxerFoo]

Thank you! The air shocks work really well on Sportsters, the touring bikes had issues with them as they aged. A lot of guys will swap them out for the 430 series on their touring bikes if they won't hold air anymore.

[@anonymity6876]

Great channel with awesome information. Cheers from Australia 👍😎🇦🇺

[@GixxerFoo]

Thanks 👍

[@SuperdogRW713]

Stock air ride stocks on my '08 Road King CVO set at 15 lbs and rides just fine solo.

[@GixxerFoo]

Those are some nice riding suspension! If you ever do have an issue with them the 430 series is a great replacement option.

[@SuperdogRW713]

@@GixxerFoo Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

[@mechcavandy986]

I guess I need to set the sag on my 430s. I still haven’t gotten them dialed in yet. They’re still kinda hard.

[@GixxerFoo]

How long have you been running them? It can take some miles to get them broke in but once they break in they soften up a bit more.

[@mechcavandy986]

@@GixxerFoo not 200 miles yet. I was thinking they needed breaking in too.,

[@dannyarendall5233]

Wow you fixed your shelf

[@GixxerFoo]

Lol finally, there's a lot of mixed emotions about it out there too 😄😂

[@simonkennedy6116]

I've got my eye on an '83 Shovelhead customised by someone who didn't know what a motorbike was. It would need total rebuild and I would be replacing the rear with progressive shocks.

[@GixxerFoo]

Those make great project bikes especially if you can pick it up really cheap and get it gone through real good!

[@simonkennedy6116]

@@GixxerFoo It's listed for $7800 but the seller has already knocked a few hundred off so I think it'll go lower. It might be a 5 speed which I'm very interested in

[@hhplymouth9473]

I put a set of progressive 412s on my VTX $1800 Honda last year they ride much better than the factory shocks I wish I'd gone with the 430 series so I had to threaded pre-loaded Juster what's what I've got I've got a compromise between a little softer than I want or harder than I want on the preloadLast year I paid $260 for the set I figure I got a lot of improvement for the money that I spent

[@GixxerFoo]

412's are great shocks and like you mentioned that's the draw back is not having the threaded adjuster. VTX 1800 is a heavy bike too, if they can handle that beast you can't beat the price!

[@bullast2046]

I’ve got good rear shocks on.. but I’m wondering if the inverted forks on the new softail/ dyna line (The bike “Ridin Dad” rides) would fit onto my ‘14 dyna.. I haven’t looked at schematics but they look like they’d work..

[@GixxerFoo]

You'd likely have to change the triple clamps out to match the diameter of the inverted forks, I'm not sure if the triple clamps of the new model would fit. But a set of triple clamps that fit you're frame that are sized for the diameter of the inverted forks would bolt them right up.

[@dutchyjhome]

How about Hyperpro progressive shocks? There really is nothing that can compete with these shocks, but yes if you would like not to pay $ 900,- for as set of rear shocks then yes, maybe those Progressive shocks can offer you some improvement compared to the OEM shocks.

[@GixxerFoo]

A lot of people get really discouraged running a quick search for shocks by the prices. Especially if you have an older bike you don't want to spend $1500 on for a set from Legend. But Progressive does offer the higher end suspension and it's still a lot for the money.

[@dutchyjhome]

@@GixxerFoo Well I have a 1985 FXRT and I recently have had my front shocks replaced from stock to Hyperpro progressive and oh my god, what a difference, I would not believe it if someone would have told me that the difference could be this big ! My rear shocks actually are from the make Progressive and they will be replaced by Hyperpro rear shocks as well. They have no standard rear shocks in their shop, they build them while you are there, based on all information they ask you for; My weight, My motorcycle weight, my riders style, am I ever going to transport a passenger, am I ever going to carry luggage and so forth. Only then They'll be able to compose the perfect rear shock set I personally need.

[@BillyBlaze7]

for around $500. you can get rear shocks and monotube front shocks made by progressives for softail, I do this to every bike i get

[@GixxerFoo]

Progressive makes some great products and they price them right too, they hard to beat!

[@chrish5791]

So using the strut cartridges that I bought for my 2005 Mercury Sable are out of the question? How is it that you can buy these units so much cheaper that coil overs for the back of a Harley?

[@GixxerFoo]

Progressive makes some really good suspension and it's not outrageously priced but it's better than the cheap chinese ebay specials.

[@DanNevis]

Well again with the good stuff. Yup heavy duty rear progressive lowest settings both ride height and preload., lower and tight, front end the proggresisive wound springs w/ 15w Bel-ray race fork oil. 30mph over speed bumps the only rattle is the biker chain on the wallet..PEACE

[@DanNevis]

OH yeah keep an eye on tire pressures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GixxerFoo]

Good suspension is well worth the investment! You're right and maintain that tire pressure too!

[@frederickking1660]

My 2013 xl c just beats me up. On my 2012 streetglide the last couple of days and can ride it all day and be fine. I need to get that sporty setup so i can save miles on the streetglide.

[@GixxerFoo]

Stock Sportster suspension is trash, it got better in 2016 when they went to cartridge forks and some much much better Showa rear shocks. It still leaves a lot to be desired, check out DK Customs for a very nice suspension that's honestly not bad on the price for custom suspension setup to your weight.

[@scotty7663]

Drag Specialities are the best bang for the buck at $249, I think Progressive makes them.

[@joetroutt7425]

I have a set of progressive 412 10" shocks on my Sportster and I have to keep it on the hardest setting bc if it bottoms out it stays stuck in that position. (I bought them used so I can't return them) Nothing like stopping at a stop light and smelling rubber burning from it rubbing the bottom of the fender.

[@GixxerFoo]

Oh crap, that's not normal and they shouldn't do that. How old were they being used shocks when you bought them?

[@joetroutt7425]

@@GixxerFoo not sure. Bought them at a consignment shop. Its all good though. I've gained weight since then so they squat a little now from my fat ass. Lol

[@FFL-vg9ro]

Bitubo Shocks. Italian made. Rebound adjustable. Equal ride quality to Legends. $425 to $450. Far better than Progressive. Done.

[@GixxerFoo]

I'll have to check those out, I've been hearing more and more about those.

[@jimedward8908]

Great info, thank you!

[@GixxerFoo]

My pleasure!

[@mbsnyderc]

I have a 1999 Sportster Sport the suspension on it's fine the way it is.

[@jeffreyengle2762]

Bought a set of progressive 444 and the price was 300ish from a good set of Legends….. my opinion?, save up and buy the legends…. You WILL NOT regret it.

[@tcb8295]

Thanks for the info, Gixxer.

[@GixxerFoo]

You bet!

[@lanceandmelanierogers6255]

I need your help! How do I adjust the steering bearing on my 02 Heritage? It’s not as simple as other scooters where you can see the star nut

[@GixxerFoo]

Harley uses what they call the fall away method, it's quite interesting. I've always just got the front end up and loosened the pinch bolt and turned the front end back and forth while carefully turning the adjuster. It's easy to turn and don't over do it, it's easy to over do it. You don't want too much tension on those bearings, it will ruin them in short order.

[@jeremyneufeld6541]

Soften? How about STIFFEN front forks? Rear suspension on my Wide Glide is ample but the front is way too soft.

[@GixxerFoo]

The front ends on Harleys are really soft, mine dives really hard under braking. I really would like to upgrade to a medium spring kit to find a balance without making it too harsh.

[@caloc8576]

@GixxerFoo What's your take on the 444 vs 430? Do you get that much more out of the 444 for the price?

[@GixxerFoo]

The 444 to me is a higher quality build, but personally I am hard pressed to pay extra over the 430 series. If I am looking at going to the 444 I am inclined to skip those and go for the gold with the piggy back shocks.

[@nicovanommeren5641]

Hi there, is it possible to raise my rear shocks? I ride a sportster 48 2016 with 10.7 shocks. Love the looks but prefer a smoother ride. Would 13 inch be good or would that be to much?

[@vancedyer755]

Hey you replaced you oil shelf! I had the Progressive 944 and I hated them. I went to the Legend Suspension front and back. Revo A and Axeo. Yes they are pricey buy my bike is paid off and now it rides like a new bike. It is like I’m riding on a rail around the corners and it is very comfortable as well. NOTE: My bike is a 2009 FLHTCU.

[@GixxerFoo]

There's no comparison between Progressove and Legends! Suspension is worth the investment, l have never heard anyone regret the expense of a suspension upgrade. Funny thing is that it's the last thing on the list!

[@vancedyer755]

@@GixxerFoo Yes, you are correct, I sould have don the suspension upgrade years ago. The change in how the bike rides is amazing. . I enjoy your show. Keep up the good work.

[@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234]

What about Fox suspension? Anyone have experience with these on a Harley? I have a 2010 Superglide.

[@GixxerFoo]

Fox suspension is frickin awesome, it cost money but it is well worth it. I have run it on a Dyna before and was highly impressed. I got lucky and it came with a set of Fox rear shocks when l got it.

[@Jimmy_Jim_Jim_1234]

@@GixxerFoo Cool thanks for taking the time. I might go in that direction. It all depends what i can get here in Ontario. Have a great night!

[@Nightraincruiser]

Thx for the explanations... But I am still a little unsure what to do. I have a 2011 wide glide and I am not happy with rear suspension. Before I had a 2004 night train which Was a much more comfortable ride.. Also I tested the 2021 softail standard which is excellent in terms of suspension. Here I am thinking about selling my dyna and getting me the New softail or should I exchange my rear shocks on my wide glide?? And if so which one would u recommend , I ride solo most of the time with minor package and I weigh about 85 kg ..... Looking forward to your answer...

[@thatoneguybrian2365]

I run progressive 412 heavys on my 95ultra classic

[@GixxerFoo]

Those are a perfect replacement for the old worn out suspension, a lot cheaper than ordering new from Harley!

[@thatoneguybrian2365]

@@GixxerFoo love the channel, thanks for another good video.

[@almightyeggroll951]

Appreciate the info! a Noob Harley owners best friend!!

[@GixxerFoo]

First Harley? I created this channel cause it's what l wish l knew when l got my first Harley. Welcome to the channel!

[@61espo]

Thanks bro! Always great info!

[@GixxerFoo]

No problem 👍

[@davidholbrook1118]

Can you make a video on Legend shocks

[@GixxerFoo]

I can do a high end suspension video, Legends is not cheap but they are the best.

[@Hippy75]

Sportsters from 2016 onwards improved the shocks - are the Progressive 412's still much of an upgrade? Trying to decide whether to replace them.

[@GixxerFoo]

I wouldn't swap a 2016 and later shock for a 412, I have a 2016 Custom and I am looking at the 430 series for mine. Now if you had one earlier than 2016 I would highly recommend the 412 shocks. With the 2016 and later you have way more adjustment options than the fixed 5 position on the 412.

[@georgeveneziano2754]

430 progressive will wrk on EG . What about the air lines just plug them or what ?. George. Long time subscription holder

[@GixxerFoo]

The 430's are actually a great cost effective way to replace a failed air suspension on the touring models. You'd actually be eliminating the air suspension on your bike using the 430's.

[@georgeveneziano2754]

Never got your answer air lines what to do with them ?

[@PkwyDrive13]

I have 14in Bitubo WMEo shocks on my 2016 FXDLS.. For $445, they're awesome and even better than progressives under $600. Pair it with Patriot genesis fork springs and it's great

[@GixxerFoo]

I've never heard of those before, I'll have to check those out! They sound like a really good deal!

[@PkwyDrive13]

@@GixxerFoo check em out! They are very nice

[@paulwalker7202]

yeah, so I'm going to disagree that going from 10 to 15wt oil in the front forks makes it "rock hard" also check eBay for prices on those brand new progressive 412 rear shocks. I saved quite a bit.

[@taiwanreef]

bought progressive 444 for 2002 electra glide

[@GixxerFoo]

You went with their higher end line, those are nice! They are high quality high end shocks but they aren't priced ridiculously.

[@Jimgonz]

Could you please do softail suspension

[@GixxerFoo]

There's a limited option on the Softail, Progressive does offer the 422 for the Softail. It retails for $575 but it's a awesome system, Progressive was actually the first to offer a aftermarket option for the Softail.

[@robbyclark6915]

How do you think these 413s or 412s compare to the newer emulsion suspension on my 2020, 883?

[@GixxerFoo]

I have the emulsion suspension on 2016, it's actually made by Showa. I would say the the emulsion shocks are more like the 430 series from Progressive.

[@larrysimmons9732]

probably gonna put 412s on my 2004 sportster. I put them on my older goldwing and they were great.

[@MicahBell_1860]

What about Electra-Glide/Road Kings?

[@DynaJohnny]

Hi what's your opinion about Bitubo WME Series Shocks 12.5 Inches In Length For Harley Davidson Dyna

[@brettlowery3121]

Hey there I'll talk to you before, I got the 09 ultra classic CVO it has progressive 944 shocks on the back I've adjusted them as much as I can backwards and forwards, he didn't went out and bought a spring tool and new springs because I was a lot with my gear and the wife and me was a lot heavier then what the springs were, regardless then things ain't working with crap what is your opinion on the dirty air bags the dirty works, front and rear I don't care so much about the being able to adjust the ride height per se I like the fact that if I ride single one day or with the wife the other day or with a bunch of gear another day I can choose that on the fly? And my second question is I don't mind to spend the money compared with Legends on the rear and on the front obviously there's a big money difference there, does anybody have an opinion which way they would go with cuz the Legends are also adjustable but they're not adjustable in the front just the rear the dirty works is adjustable all the way around and it has little gauges it will tell you exactly what pressures in the front and in the rear separately??

[@fatdmk168]

I have bought 2011 FXDF, and i don't know for whom this suspension was created. It has too soft front(maybe some maintenance required) and hard as a rock back. As i understood from manual i have to set pos3 preload for my weight (230lbs+-), but in pos 1 it is already too hard and start to work only with 100lbs passanger. is it possible that previous owner used to install some heavy duty springs in stock shocks?

[@Jeffmd2020]

Got any good recommendations for shocks on a 07 street glide for a tall lightweight rider?! I’m 6’1” and about 150-160lbs… I’ve heard 12” sportster shocks are amazing on a street glide for guys like me

[@franklinlucaslima]

Any recommendations for softails?

[@GixxerFoo]

Progressive does have some softail suspension that works very well, Progressive has the 422 series. The standard is about 600 bucks and then they have the same system with remote adjustability for 900.

[@franklinlucaslima]

@@GixxerFoo thanks! I’ll check those!

[@dotlaj]

I would probably go with öhulins because I can ride to the factory.

[@GixxerFoo]

Nice! Literally knock on the front door?!

[@almightyeggroll951]

1:52 Will also need translation book lol!

[@GixxerFoo]

😄😂👍 you're the only one that caught it!

[@chrisburch9513]

I miss the old shelf...

[@GixxerFoo]

😄😂🤦‍♂️ l kinda do too

[@fxrmike5145]

I just bought some shocks for my St glide from drag specialty. Preload is as soft as can be, I only weigh 150, like riding a fuggin hardtail unless I have the wife on back

[@jplav2952]

I had it set up 430 on my street Glide they sucked should have just paid the extra money and got Legends

[@GixxerFoo]

That sucks, I have good luck with the 430 series. But the Street Glide is a pretty heavy bike, did you get the heavy duty or the standard version?

[@jplav2952]

Standard