Upgrading Fluval's HORRIBLE Lily Pipes with LANDEN's SS Lily Pipes!

[@Stacyahmad99]

After I watched this a few days ago I bought 2 sets of lily pipes for both of my 407's. I hated the look of the nasty oem intake and outtake valves. Even bought new fluval rubber gaskets for the pipes for a clean look. Thank you for this video. I didn't even know you could upgrade. Now I have to buy another set for my 207!😄

[@ssaquascapes]

So glad the video helped you out. Enjoy your new cleaner stainless steel look. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.🤘

[@Stacyahmad99]

​@ssaquascapes The stainless clamp doesn't fit the 75gal or 40gal breeder aqueon tank lips. It fits my smaller tanks but the largest tank with enough room for the pipes is 29gal. How can I make this work? The outtake will not stay in place without a clamp.🤷🏼‍♀️🤔

[@ssaquascapes]

You’ll need to cut the larger tank’s plastic trim to make these work on those large frames. I did it to my 75G Aqeon tank. Here is a link to that video so you can see it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3LQqIabe9WgqM0si=0f904a-J-9WeHcqa Time stamp: 31:50 where I discuss the Landen clamps. Hope that helps. 🤘

[@401kdub2]

You gotta new sub bro, you literally just summed up 4hrs of research in one vid for me 😂 everything I need for my upgrade including the right sizes and brand name plus tutorial. Thank you 🙏🏾

[@ssaquascapes]

Awesome. Glad the video helped you out. And thanks for the sub!

[@401kdub2]

@@ssaquascapes is there any chance you could tell me the width of the bracket that secures to the rim. I have a 75g rimmed tank, I just want to make sure it will fit before I order. Please and thank you.

[@ssaquascapes]

I am at work so I can’t measure it. But I assure you it’ll fit over the rim if you buy the 16mm lily pipe set. I have a set mounted on the black plastic frame of a 75g.

[@401kdub2]

@@ssaquascapes appreciate it bro 👌🏾

[@jacquelynzermeno7625]

Great video! Followed it exactly and like these lily pipes a lot better than the fluvals bulky pipes

[@ssaquascapes]

Awesome! Glad to have helped! Enjoy your cleaner SS look! 🤘

[@PuffPuff1911]

Ah...this video was quality! I went with the Fluval skimmer upgrade and that is a piece of crap. This upgrade is outstanding! Saved me hours of research! Well done.

[@ssaquascapes]

Thank you! I too have bought, and trashed that plastic Fluval skimmer. 😔

[@PuffPuff1911]

@@ssaquascapes if you could find a way to integrate a DIY handle onto the canister. That would be great too 🤣

[@ssaquascapes]

I’ll play around with some Duct Tape and let you know what I come up with. 🤣🤣

[@EthanRock101]

I did this about a year ago. The best diy upgrade in the hobby. The flow increase is amazing.

[@ssaquascapes]

Agree. Function and form. 🤘🤘

[@UndercastEsmeganitrospeed]

How did you see a flow increase if there is a diameter reduction?

[@ssaquascapes]

Not to step on @ethanrock101 ‘s comment ,but, the decrease in Lily pipe size from a larger hose diameter causes a Venturi. 🤘

[@juanmanueldominguezalcolea2366]

Incredibly it was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much for the idea.

[@ssaquascapes]

Glad KZbin suggested it for ya! Enjoy a cleaner setup! 🤘

[@bradb3245]

I just bought and installed my first 407, and totally agree with you. Everything was awesome, except those cheap input/output lily pipes. They just look ugly as sin, and are klunky to get lined up properly.

[@ssaquascapes]

It’s a shame they didn’t come up with a better design. Cost I am guessing as the filter if relatively inexpensive.

[@wrmaldonado]

Always cool to see these mods.

[@ssaquascapes]

I love to tinker! Thanks for the support! 🤘

[@ViralVaultOnYT]

just recently bought a 207 on sale and had ZERO clue that the in flow and outflow looked so atrocious. I was considering just selling it cause it’s still brand new in the box and just buying another Oase, but after I’ve seen this video, it looks like I might just have a better time doing this! Thank you :)

[@ssaquascapes]

Glad you found this video helpful and I know you love the LANDEN lily pipes for years to come. I have converted all my filtered aquariums to these lily pipes. No more cleaning ugly glass pipework every week either.

[@tedblack2163]

Nifty little hack for installing the skimmer.

[@ssaquascapes]

Thank you. This is how I install all the Neo skimmers since I am pairing them with LANDEN lily pipes and not the Neo pipes. Easy to remove for cleaning too 🤘

[@awoodward37]

The taps on my old small Fluval canister would drip when I disconnected the canister. Mucking about with plastic bags and rubber bands to catch the drips is the reason I binned it for my Aquis 1050.

[@ssaquascapes]

Yeah, all “quick disconnects” are going to drip a little. Just part of the fun I guess. 🤣

[@wh0tube]

Without further ado bro, SS strikes the poses with all his hoses! 🤓👍 If only I could find 19mm ones to swap out my aquael’s, but havent found any.

[@ssaquascapes]

I would like LANDEN to make a 19mm as well as it fits the Fluvals stock hoses better. And thanks for the props 🤘🤘

[@briancarl4107]

Do you cover your inline CO2 diffuser and how you installed them on the Fluval tubing in another video?

[@ssaquascapes]

I don’t believe I do. But pretty simple. Just some 16mm vinyl tubing that goes from the filter outlet barb to the inline diffuser. The stock Fluval hose on the other end of the diffuser. Add Co2 and connect Co2 line to the diffuser. Done. Link to the diffuser: amzn.to/3VMRXtS Link to Co2 line: amzn.to/43Q8D5R

[@tonyg5597]

Yep, got rid of those pipes with both of my Fluval cannister filters as soon as I opened the box....absolutely hideous...bought clear tubing and glass lily pipes...although never seen a skimmer on the outflow....usually attach it to the inflow so the surface scum goes into the filter

[@ssaquascapes]

Finally someone agrees the stock pipework is awful. The Neo skimmer is only there to break up surface scum. Nothing more. Shrimplet and fry safe because it just blows them back into the tank! 🤘

[@brycestewart3181]

I have the fx2, wish they had 24mm pipes to fix this problem. The hoses on the fx2 are worse, they do not even have pipes. thx for sharing

[@ssaquascapes]

Thanks for watching. Maybe search Amazon for 24mm OD pipes. Some people make odd accessories for our hobby. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤘🤷🏼‍♂️

[@travisdeshotel8894]

The 1 in pond hose, from home depot, fits the fx.

[@Igor-q3f]

The old Fluval looked better with the tank you have. Now first thing you can see when entering the room are the tall stainless steel pipes that don’t go well with the plastic black frames of the tank.

[@ssaquascapes]

Just a matter of preference I guess. I prefer the steel over plastic. That’s why we have different options. 🤘

[@mfadzlijamaluddin]

The first thing i thought was you're gonna fix that skimmer on the inlet pipe. Then, okay maybe you put it on the outlet to suck some air like an air pump to the tank? But wait, this is a planted tank & you've already put CO2 inline with the outlet. I don't understand.🤔 Anyways, thanks for the tips. Agree with you, that ribbed plastic hose looks from the 90s tho.😂 When i bought my 207, I knew i need to get that replaced with lily pipes.

[@ssaquascapes]

The skimmer confuses a lot of people. It is only designed to remove surface scum and works well.

[@slickgaming810]

Shouldn’t a skimmer be attached to the intake?

[@ssaquascapes]

This particular one is designed for the outlet. All it does is deposit the surface biofilm back in the water column, where the filter will then collect it. All you really need is surface agitation to keep it clear. I actually don’t use any skimmers anymore. 🤘

[@eccentricsmithy2746]

Fluval pipes are just fine for any aquascaping.

[@ssaquascapes]

Purely a matter of taste. 🤘

[@PriceTagAquariums]

Does the output adjust high enough to give off any surface tension at the surface? Looks like it might be an eye sore if the pipe stuck up really high. Or is there an attachment you recommend to direct water flow towards the top at the end of the output? Is this set up only for a planted aquarium? Thanks!

[@ssaquascapes]

Can use in any setup. Not just planted. You can raise it up to have the outflow agitate the surface. Depending on your water level, it might stick up higher than your liking. (Max on one I have raised is 3.5” high above the rim)

[@jdssurf]

all my stuff is under a canopy, I guess for open top planted tanks it could be not so nice looking but they seem to cater more to tanks like mine I guess

[@ssaquascapes]

Good observation. Thanks for adding the canopy tip. This would surely make sense and combined with a black background, the pipes inside the tank may look OK. 👍🏻

[@jdssurf]

@@ssaquascapes yeah but open top looks good with plants and wood sticking out, as long as your fish don't jump

[@ssaquascapes]

I agree. 🤘

[@tinishacampbell6601]

I see you have an inline co2 diffuser. Can you make a video or tell me how I add a inline diffuser to the fluval fx4 canister filter ?

[@ssaquascapes]

Essential, this brand only makes a 16mm max size, and if I remember, the FX series has a 25mm I1 inch) ID hose. So this diffuser would not work for you. However, there are many models on the market and you might be able to fine one that fits your hose ID. If not, you have to just use traditional in tank diffusers

[@tinishacampbell6601]

@@ssaquascapes thank you

[@JohnMcCann-c6n]

Are these clipped to the glass or edge of tank

[@ssaquascapes]

They will clip to the glass on rimless aquariums. No suction cups on this version. They have rubber pads on set screws to avoid glass damage

[@jordakitty]

No issues with shrimplets and the standard Landen intake pipes?

[@ssaquascapes]

On my breeding tanks for shrimp I use a mesh screen over the inlet. But the shrimplets mainly stay away from any high flow. Link to inlet screens: amzn.to/4cJYlYo Match screen size to Landen pipe OD

[@javierjimenez4098]

Would the 5/8 ID 3/4 OD hose fit directly onto the 207? To completely ditch the black ribbed tubing

[@ssaquascapes]

Yes, that hose will fit directly. I would still use clamps just to sleep better on vacation. Ya know what I mean? 😉

[@garywong6084]

Are there any accessories that can replace fluval soft glue? Because of my old soft glue, I found some white dust near the row that touched my hands. . Will it spread to the fish tank if you touch him? Why?😢😢

[@azndragoon221]

I m looking into the steel one, but glass those glass one, how do you feel about the glass lily?

[@ssaquascapes]

Glass likely pipes look good until they get diatoms or algae inside (need cleaning). Steel lily pipes look good even if the inside is dirty. 🤘

[@Knutahh]

Landen set looks great. Too bad they don't sell them in the EU. Not sure about the skimmer addition, but I'm sure that's just up to taste. One could probably hide it behind hardscape or something.

[@ssaquascapes]

Yes. A high hardscape would hide the equipment

[@franka6302]

Congratulations sir, you've just turned that skimmer into a Venturi. A skimmer should be plumbed in the intake. The job of a skimmer is to skim debris from the surface of the water and direct it into the filter canister. Or am I missing something?

[@ssaquascapes]

You’re missing something. 😉 It is designed for the outflow. I am just not using the Neo pipe work. Surface scum need not be filtered. If you simply raise any lily pipe to splash onto the water surface you’ll have a clear surface. This option is for breeding setups where you don’t want shrimp and fry to get sucked into the filter via the skimmer. Here, they just get blown back into the tank. 🤘 Now, it won’t skim plant matter or debris, correct. But no skimmer I ever had actually ingests the plant leaves. They just get stuck on the edge anyway. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@franka6302]

@@ssaquascapes I stand corrected.

[@ssaquascapes]

No worries, it is not a common method of skimming aquariums. 🤘

[@mattphillips6714]

@@franka6302 don’t be corrected. Your first thought was correct, skimmers suck not blow doesn’t matter how you dress it skimmers suck the surface and if it’s not doing this then it’s not skimming. This guy could of shopped around very little on Amazon and easily found Lilly pipes with a built in skimmer on the CORRECT pipe (INTAKE) and got a better system than this one..

[@mattphillips6714]

@@ssaquascapesYOU’RE missing something.. if you don’t remove surface scum it just floats back to the surface later as it’s generally oil based protein from feeding or caused by live plants. If not removed properly it can affect gas exchange.. the kit you have is fit for the BIN not a heathy aquarium..

[@laurahelpfulthanksforshari9539]

Helpful

[@ssaquascapes]

Very glad the video was helpful. Thanks for watching ! 🤘

[@gregsolomon]

I'm Just Curious...Have Those Pipes Begun To Rust Yet?

[@ssaquascapes]

Nope. 305 stainless steel. I have 6 sets and no issues at all. I LOVE them. 🤘

[@gregsolomon]

@@ssaquascapes Thanks for your reply. The composition of stainless determines its resistance to corrosion...and it sounds as if Landen uses a high quality stainless with a decent amount of nickel in its composition. I'll definitely be getting a set of Landen's pipes for my 55 gallon tank. Thanks again for your reply!

[@ssaquascapes]

@gregsolomon my pleasure. I believe they are currently out of stock as I am waiting to order 2 more sets myself! But they will restock and I know you’ll enjoy em!

[@awoodward37]

Ribbed hoses? Why not swap out to smooth hoses? Also, wouldn't you try to shorten the length of both hoses?

[@ssaquascapes]

I don’t have a problem with the hoses as they are hidden behind the cabinet/stand and I don’t see them. I don’t shorten them because I move my filters around to different setups when I rescape and want the hoses to reach whichever tank I install it on.

[@delta_bluesontwitch8463]

I thought the longer section that says Fluval was supposed to go in the tank and cover the grey connectors.

[@ssaquascapes]

Instructions state the grey connectors should be below the water surface because they are not water tight. They just push on the plastic tube. In my opinion, just a bad design.

[@Merb34st]

What did you treat the BBA with? Also, SS lily pipes on an aqueon tank is lipstick on a pig.

[@ssaquascapes]

Hydrogen peroxide. And a decorated pig looks better than a stock one. 😁

[@michaelbmason95]

The skimmer slant needs to be rotated 180. It’s not actually drawing suction through the skimmer.

[@ssaquascapes]

Per the directions, this is the correct way to create the Venturi.

[@PhoebeMercieca]

Just ordered the glass pipes of these, but setting up a sump pump. Didnt realise id have to have an overflow. Was going to order or make an overflow box. How would you suggest this could work? If it can

[@ssaquascapes]

Unfortunately, I am not experienced at all in Sumps. Maybe someone with experience will comment and help out with suggestions.

[@Jaspervisoria]

Any alternative like this for the fx6?

[@ssaquascapes]

Someone below mentioned that the Pond hose from Home Depot fits an FX series. I don’t have any more info than that as I don’t own an FX.

[@chasebrumfiel1042]

How do you like the inline Co2 diffuser? I've been looking for one that goes with the ribbed tubing for the Fluval 7 series as well as the lily pipes. Thanks for sharing! I learned a lot about upgrading my setup! I subbed :)

[@ssaquascapes]

Thanks for the sub! 🤘 I love the in-line diffuser. My favorite way to add co2. It is silent, no equipment in the aquarium, and it saturates the water column much better than bubbles floating to the surface (standard diffuser). I say give it a go! Link in description!

[@cancun3103]

Isn’t it better to get a skimmer that attaches to the in take so the water can be filtered instead of throwing it back in circulation just like that?

[@ssaquascapes]

From my experience it doesn’t matter how you get the biofilm into the water stream. It will be filtered either way and the surface stays clear. This model is smaller and looks better to me than the big ‘ol intake skimmers.

[@roajf]

The timing on (me seeing) this video is perfect! I was about to Google "Fluval Lillypipes" to look for options. I'll be soon shopping for Landen pipes! Thank you Ps. Those mollies are huge!

[@ssaquascapes]

Thank you! 🤘 We grow ‘em big here in Florida 🤣

[@roajf]

@@ssaquascapes oops. Didn't mean to post this as a "reply" to previous commenter.

[@ssaquascapes]

@roajf no worries! I still saw your comment and it still contributes to the algorithm, so thank you! 🤘

[@jdssurf]

I think I've seen that pipe at the Hustler Store

[@ssaquascapes]

😳

[@gmangarcia171]

Will I be able to use this on a 404 fluval.?

[@ssaquascapes]

I am not familiar with the 404. I run a 407 with the LANDEN Lily Pipes in the 16mm size. If the hoses on the 404 are the same as a 407 (16mm ID) then it should work. Order from amazon (link below) and if they don’t fit, repack and return. 🤘amzn.to/472NPtw

[@filiplaskovski9993]

First thing I did was remove those hideous Fluval pipes also

[@ssaquascapes]

Don’t know who in the R&D department was like “yeah! That’s the look right there!” 😏

[@JohnMcCann-c6n]

Is this safe not to crack the glass

[@ssaquascapes]

Yes. I have 6 sets on rimless aquariums

[@Xpeng6780]

What do you use to connect fluval hose to lily pipe?

[@Xpeng6780]

What size is the clamp?

[@ssaquascapes]

LANDEN provides the clamps in their kit. They are roughly 15mm spring clamps.

[@fendy771]

What is skimmer does?

[@ssaquascapes]

Just keeps the surface nice and clear by blowing the surface film back into the water.

[@willparsons32]

@6:03 you mentioned that the tank brackets that come with the Lily pipes fit on either the rimless OR rimmed aquarium.. .. This may just very well be BUT take note that the thickness of every individual rimmed tank is different from one another. By "different" I'm referring to the thickness of the plastic rim as per the tank size. So with that said, and from someone who also has a similar set of brackets and Lily pipes, they definitely do not fit over the edge of the 36 gallon bowfront tank. Fortunately however, I had a old set of brackets from a SUNSUN Canister that fit perfectly with both the rim of my tank (36 g) and as well, the Lily pipes. WHY they don't make those pipe brackets for larger rimmed tanks is beyond me after all, not everyone likes or feels comfortable with rimless aquariums. Also, why would you Mount your skimmer to the outflow pipe??? My intake (to the filter) pipe has the built in skimmer.. the purpose of the skimmer is to draw in the surface scum off the water and into the filter. How is that accomplished when the thing is attached to the outflow end of the pipe?

[@ssaquascapes]

Understood. The bow front may be different but I have a 40G rimmed and the LANDEN brackets do fit over the plastic rim. I am sure they wouldn’t fit over a 150G rimmed but I assume (yes I know.. ass-u-me) that we’d use a different lily pipe set for that size. My largest is a 75G so I don’t have experience or a solution for large aquariums. Thank you for letting us know that 36G bow-fronts won’t work with this set. I appreciate the feedback!🤘

[@willparsons32]

@@ssaquascapes I did notice that the little aluminum pipe brackets don't have the drip guard were it sits atop The top of the tank. This may be the "missing link" (difference) between the two.

[@willparsons32]

@@ssaquascapes I thought I could share a picture of the type of pipe bracket that I have and the probable difference between the two (yours & mine) but there's no option to do so here.

[@ssaquascapes]

You can email pictures to me at the contact email in my KZbin channel “about channel” section. I don’t list it in comments due to spam bots 😉

[@willparsons32]

@@ssaquascapes ok... Keep an eye out for an email address that starts with "wiln.."

[@E92jamesy]

Does anyone know the diameter of the standard ribbed fluval 207 pipework, want to replace with smooth clear pipework.

[@ssaquascapes]

5/8” ID tubing. Here is an Amazon link: amzn.to/3UmQt7u

[@Thecrazyfisherman2]

stands out more, anodized black or glass would be nice, with a lower lily arch

[@ssaquascapes]

I don’t mind the height. It’s those giant black plastic clips that drive me nuts. But with aesthetics, each to their own.😁

[@Thecrazyfisherman2]

@@ssaquascapes is the U height adjustable? to lower down as much as possible?

[@ssaquascapes]

Yes. The clamp has a set screw so if you don’t care about surface agitation you can lower them right down to the rim!

[@guynum685]

Ever have one break the glass from being lifted with set screw in place ?

[@ssaquascapes]

No, they have rubber tips on the set screws. I bump them when cleaning and no issues. You don’t tighten them as hard as you can, just enough to grab the glass and stay in place.

[@joeycorreia3720]

Would these work on a fluval fx4

[@ssaquascapes]

These would not work with an FX series as the FX4 uses a 24mm hose. These LANDEN pipes are 16mm.

[@lastditch727]

I still cant get over the fact that people run canister filters on a 10 gallon lol

[@ssaquascapes]

Looowww maintenance. 🤘🤘

[@TheHeadShotBoom]

It would seem more logical to me to put the skimmer on the INTAKE of the filter instead of blowing it into the tank.

[@ssaquascapes]

Everyone says that but it is DESIGNED as an OUTFLOW skimmer. See, all you have to do is break up the surface tension. Even a lily pipe raised up will keep the surface clear. All this does is suck the scum and break up the surface.

[@jerrysanders9517]

I think the skimmer goes on the intake hose..................

[@ssaquascapes]

Nope. Designed as an outflow skimmer.

[@jerrysanders9517]

@@ssaquascapes really?? I always thought those we installed on the intake as to skim junk into the filter. i dont have 1 but just looking to add a canister with lily pipes

[@ssaquascapes]

Yup. AquaRio designed this for the outflow. Shrimplet and fry safe as they just get blown back into the aquarium. See all you have to do is disturb the surface of the water to break up the biofilm. It won’t skim food or leaves or debris, but simply raising an outflow pipe will keep your water surface clear.

[@wdiz100]

Is the skimmer just used for circulating?

[@ssaquascapes]

I probably should have clarified this in the video but, I prefer to use outflow skimmers to clear the scum off the surface of the water rather than inflow skimmers. With this particular outflow skimmer, if a small shrimp or baby fish gets pulled into the skimmer it just gets blown back into the tank rather than trapped in the filter. These outflow skimmers do clear the surface biofilm same as a traditional inflow skimmer.

[@wdiz100]

@@ssaquascapes gotcha. Definitely makes sense if any breeding happens and the surface scum still gets removed. 👍🏻

[@edpereira1908]

@@ssaquascapes I was going to ask the same thing, makes since now.

[@josephfast5887]

Yea bro, not feeling the chrome look in my reeftank.

[@ssaquascapes]

I can understand that. In a reef tank I imagine you want all black equipment.

[@anthonygray5581]

Skimmer goes on the in pipe

[@ssaquascapes]

Not this one. It is designed as an outflow skimmer only for surface scum. Baby fish and shrimp safe. Poor little guys just get blown back into the tank. 🤣

[@aarondavies8486]

That color is ment to be at the back of the tank that acts as a gripper in the glass

[@ssaquascapes]

What color?

[@mischievousMonkeyBusiness]

My brackets broke they are the worst!

[@ssaquascapes]

The covers that hold the hose on the bracket break on mine so the hose isn’t tight against the glass.

[@AngelFlores-zm4ub]

Intake holes too big for the shrimpplets

[@ssaquascapes]

Yes. I use a mesh screen intake filter over them.

[@aarondavies8486]

Hahahaha you have the outlet the wrong way pml

[@ssaquascapes]

Hey, I’ll outlet any way I please. 🤣🤣

[@RichieRich845]

👍

[@ssaquascapes]

🤘

[@eric31shaggs]

I have no issues at all with Fluval's lily pipes. I think what you replaced them with looks worse. Don't fix what's not broken.

[@ssaquascapes]

To each their own! 😁

[@m140jam5]

Why watch the video then dumbass haha!

[@Berakah-2724]

Correct.thats the engeneering design.used what is the designated tools

[@03_Kx100]

Yeah it’s only nice with glass ones, they are likes invisible and it’s soooo nice to look at, unlike this stainless steel or whatever it is😭

[@rosewood2169]

I have the Fluval 407 with the fluval spray bar and it’s the best setup. And for my skimmer I also have the Oase crystalskim 350 on one tank and the Oase Crystalskim 600 on another tank. These skimmers are the best to me. Just my opinion.

[@quadzilla26b]

Nah stock works perfect

[@ssaquascapes]

🤢🤮

[@VEEZER1]

Fluville not fluval ;)

[@ssaquascapes]

Might wanna hear the company pronounce their own name. This can be done by watching their channel. 😉 Just cause everyone pronounces it wrong doesn’t make it right. 😁

[@PriceTagAquariums]

Tomato/toe"mah"tow lol

[@ssaquascapes]

‘’mater” 🤣