Upgrading The MotoTec 48V Pro Electric Dirt Bike

[@timestampterrysassistant7638]

the return of the used bike king 👑

[@PatOutdoors]

😂

[@burn1gotbeats]

Awsome i look forward to seeing you rebuild this bike.

[@ClownMoney]

That was sweet upgrade Good speed from 19 mph to 30 mph good job

[@Tristanheggie]

Did just the controller make it go from 19mph to 30mph?

[@PatOutdoors]

@@Tristanheggie all it did was pull as many amps and power as the stock battery can produce as much acceleration and speed, but yes

[@tyler4462]

*edited* The brake kit in the description works perfectly! Took me some time to figure it out but it works great! Thanks for the tips

[@PatOutdoors]

@@tyler4462 it’s exactly what I used. You just have to swap out the left and right brake levers and bleed it. Did you end up with a different set from what I have physically mounted on this bike?

[@tyler4462]

@@PatOutdoors Are you saying you left the original calipers on and just used new levers? The brakes on mine have never worked so I was wanting to do new levers, pads/calipers, and everything.

[@PatOutdoors]

@@tyler4462 no I have the full Zoom brake set installed on the bike and rode it after. I’m confused what you were referring to with the caliper supposed to be mounted on the right side. I use this same exact kit on my Razors and my calipers are all mounted on the left side of the bike. It just comes from factory with the right lever activating the rear brake so I swapped them left/right so the left lever activates the rear brake and the right lever activates the front (not like a mountain bike.)

[@tyler4462]

@@PatOutdoors Turns out I’m an idiot and they installed perfect! Thanks for the great video. I plan on doing some of these upgrades for my kid. Does the new controller that bluetooths to your phone allow you to control top speed and acceleration? Or would I need to use a separate speed controller for that?

[@PatOutdoors]

@@tyler4462 The controller came with a bluetooth dongle so yeah it connects directly to your phone and you can make a ton of changes like speed, power output, etc

[@ghastly545]

Wow never been a big mototec fan but this video makes me wanna get one!

[@AP_real]

so what did you use to upgrade it like did you use an electro n co kit?

[@Canadian_72vRazor]

yesss pat posting again

[@KevCruz-y8o]

Whats the weight limit of the rear shock i weight 207 lbs is that good for the 270mm shock you got?

[@TheTexasDuke]

Pats back! Let’s see how this one goes

[@VoltronWatts]

Great video Pat! 🍻

[@RichardRecupero]

It’s nuts how much is deleted from a bike when you go electric. Wild

[@SINcityBigLOU]

Brother! Nice build, I recently got the supermoto wheels from electro & co I’m trying to run a 4 piston brake. Anything big you’ve tried for this bike? 😮❤😊

[@jessewoodworth3888]

Is this bike better out ofthe box than the Tuttio bike please respond asap! Thanks pat

[@PatOutdoors]

It’s MUCH smaller than the Tuttio. If you’re over 5’4, the Tuttio would be much more comfortable. It also comes with more power right out of the box. Unless you get the 60V or 72V version of the Mototec

[@Epsonblade]

Pat, I can't find a motor replacement within budget for this same bike... Can you set me up with some links for a hub motor for this bike? This motor isn't used on many bikes. The E+C kit is a bit pricey for what I want to do. Any opinion or assistance will be great.

[@PatOutdoors]

You may have to just be on Mototec’s wait list.. I have not looked into 12” rear hub motors as it may add too much weight for this tiny bike for it to be any fun. A quality QS hub rear motor may be close to $800 also..

[@Epsonblade]

@@PatOutdoors Thx bud. I contacted them and they said they don't know when so sign up for notifications and wait. lol I appreciate it bud.

[@nonarsaveme]

im a little new to this stuff. if i wanted to do a mini emoto, would i be better off buying a mototec and using E&C's upgrades, or getting a bit cheaper razor like a mx500? or should i just save a bunch and get a talaria or smth

[@nonarsaveme]

oh yea i heard those rawrr mantisx are pretty good for 3k which is what buying a razor or mototec and putting a whole suspension redo and 76v kit would cost me about 3k probably too

[@PatOutdoors]

Sooo.. I actually own a RAWRR Mantis X, Modified Talaria XXX, and a LOT of different Razors from stock SX500 all the way to modified MX650’s. I would say if you’re not experienced with wrenching or not comfortable enough with wiring AND happen to have the funds for it.. just get yourself a Mantis X (if you like to ride on/off-road) or a Talaria XXX (if you mostly like riding street.) I love all my bikes for different reasons and I enjoy building Razors the most out of all the bikes.. but they’re not that capable off road.

[@EbikeReveiws]

Dude I really want to know how long it took to ship from the moto tec USA site

[@therealcmplx]

What are the size dimensions on that original battery ?

[@angieb8941]

I wish you were near me. I really want to replace the front fork on my emove roadrunner v2. I want hydraulic.

[@travyisout]

Is there a community like a discord where I can ask questions about modifying my razor bike?

[@PatOutdoors]

@@travyisout I believe there is an “Adult Razor Owners Group” on Facebook that a lot of people here participate at. I unfortunately don’t have a FB so I can’t send you a link.

[@benayeb9952]

would two 36v in series fit?

[@PatOutdoors]

@@benayeb9952 not enough space for that

[@MooseRidez]

Great video brotha!

[@miraah11]

How tall are you?

[@djjays1dnb]

Hi pat. Great content as usual 😊 any chance you know what hall angle I should be running ione if these motors at pls. I'm tuning a votol em50sp controller thanks.

[@PatOutdoors]

@@djjays1dnb shoot.. I’m not too familiar with the Votol controllers unfortunately. My big Yamaha runs on a EM260, but that was pre-tuned by Electro & Co. There’s no auto-learn feature?

[@djjays1dnb]

@@PatOutdoors no auto learn feature unfortunately. I found one vid on here but its not working for me 😕 thanks for your fast response mate. 😊 It needs the rite pole pair count and the hall angle if anyone can help cheers in advance

[@djjays1dnb]

@@PatOutdoors or if anyone knows how I can find the manufacturer specs of the motor would help.

[@djjays1dnb]

I have found It is 4 pole pairs and - 60 hall angle

[@djjays1dnb]

I never realised it is the same motor as the b1

[@sonnivega6739]

please have a update on a better seat option

[@Phase-zo2mp]

I'm a taller rider and I wanted to get an mx650, but do you think this is better for taller riders? Of course I know it would be a mini bike, but maybe a slightly better fit. Also do you have any recommendations for upgrades for taller riders? Also, could I use handlebar raisers on this bike?

[@PatOutdoors]

I have two SX500's and two MX650's and the Razors definitely have more room for an adult to sit on. Slightly longer DNM rear shock, decent fork, and a set of risers would make it even more comfortable for maybe a 6'er. The MotoTec I think is better suited for 5'9 or below..

[@Phase-zo2mp]

@@PatOutdoors Got it. Thanks!

[@sharktooth3122]

Hey Pat I’m looking into getting a Rawrr Mantis X. I would love to see more videos on it, if you could, could you build it into the fastest supermoto Mantis X you can. Thank you Pat I love your videos! 💚💚

[@PatOutdoors]

Well good thing I just got my controller back from RAWRR! It’ll be back on the road with more videos this week

[@MotoAlias]

There's no motor battery or controller upgrade for the mantis x. Better off getting the talaria xxx

[@sharktooth3122]

@@MotoAlias thanks so much for the info although the Rawrr team emailed me saying it’s possible using controllers with batteries that most emotos use

[@PatOutdoors]

@@MotoAlias so I have both bikes.. I recently spoke with Sonja at RAWRR and they have a higher power 35AH battery coming out, also EBMX and Nucular are both working on adapter harness for their controllers.

[@RockT32]

I’m looking for I battery that would fit and give me long rides could you help me

[@astr0yt344]

I wanna convert my ktm 50 replica (I have two but one has a blown motor) with a vevor 2000w 48v kit and a 20ah battery with a 30A bms should i go with 52v or 48v and how fast and what range do you think I’ll get? Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

[@PatOutdoors]

Which exact bike brand and model is this? If it’s a gas pit bike, a Vevor MY1020 style motor may not be enough to push it around at a decent speed.

[@astr0yt344]

It’s a kids 2 stroke ktm 50 air cooled adventure replica it’s unbranded though

[@PatOutdoors]

@@astr0yt344 ah ok. Well you would probably want at least a 3000W motor and a controller / battery that can pull 50 amps continuously for it to be a pretty fun bike. Maybe an EC4P with a lil bit controller kit. Or at the very least a 3000W Kunray with a Fardriver controller..

[@astr0yt344]

I’ve changed my mind and I’m doing a 48v mx350 but I don’t want to use lithium because I just don’t like how dangerous they are what batteries could fit in a mx350 other than lithium?

[@Yorkshirex]

I pull 80amp from my sons 48v standard battery bit works best at 60amp 200 phase amp

[@Bikinalways]

What are the diemensions of the battery?

[@PatOutdoors]

6x6.5x8.75”

[@Bikinalways]

@@PatOutdoors ok! I have one that fits in a razor battery tray, I will measure later

[@PatOutdoors]

@@Bikinalways well this battery fits in a razor tray too.. it’s from my mx650. Just too long for this mototec

[@Bikinalways]

@@PatOutdoors ahh ok, I’ll still check

[@Bikinalways]

You are such a great KZbinr!

[@82colten]

take chain off and let it sit for a day in transmission fluid worked for me

[@PatOutdoors]

Thanks for the tip! I may do this to a Yamaha I'm currently working on..

[@82colten]

@@PatOutdoors my chain was super seized up and I let it sit for two days and now it’s smooth as butter and it’s been staying like that for about a week and a half now

[@Ronkilla]

I have one and I'm using stock motor it takes 6 kW nicely I'm just trying to get a 72 bayyery to fit 😅

[@PatOutdoors]

@@Ronkilla how are you putting out 6kw currently? What battery do you have it there?

[@Ronkilla]

Upgraded battery n controller Ll on my vid description bro 👌

[@splooshybunnys]

B1 battery will pop right in there

[@PatOutdoors]

I’ll look into it as an option for him! Thanks

[@joseph_k2510]

do u think a complete noob would be able to do this

[@HIPHOPMENTOR]

👍

[@mrPocketPixel]

Cool

[@RichardRecupero]

Bluetooth?

[@PatOutdoors]

@@RichardRecupero yes, Fardriver uses Bluetooth to connect to your phone for the app.

[@TheTexasDuke]

That battery will fit just angle 📐 it in

[@PatOutdoors]

@@TheTexasDuke I tried 🥲 It’s a full inch longer than EMX brandon’s. This bike is for a 13-year old boy so the owner wants to keep it as is for the meantime and up the voltage later once the boy is more comfortable

[@Jay-r5w]

Go Amorge 60V

[@mansukhgaming13]

second?

[@andyredvolvo9434]

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[@UGAGMJ]

Awesome bike!! Please enter me in the giveaway!!

[@anonymous_message]

Reveal *

[@Bunki1234]

hi

[@aidanburton5412]

Third!?

[@iikgbeastii6150]

First ?!

[@bigballa8220]

Thought that was the Hyper Bee for a second 😅

[@PatOutdoors]

LOL I wish. Then it would be mine