The Dark Future of Your YouTube Feed

[@UpperEchelon]

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[@mr.neqtan]

You're part of the problem

[@abdou.the.heretic]

@@mr.neqtan a necessary evil my guy, and I think he knows it.

[@VirtousStoic]

Not as quality as most of ur videos sorry. But keep up speaking truths

[@2112user]

I wonder.... A.I. makes videos so a human can make money. A.I. CAN create, edit and upload 24/7. How long till data centers can't expand and add storage faster than 1-2-10K A.I.'s can upload. How long till that's irrelevant as the website is avoided as a spam page....

[@mr.neqtan]

@@2112user similar tactics and patterns in reality. Surely the same perpetrators. AI are employees no?

[@Yezpahr]

Why is nobody talking about how comments just vaporize cuz automod has gone haywire for the past year and a half?

[@mistahsusan2650]

'cause most have moved onto platforms that at least for the time being don't censor as strongly, nor as seemingly-inconsistently or sporadically? also it's a major year for "elections", so buckle-up buckoh!

[@Drako9823]

One slightly offensive or morally heavy word, and your entire paragraph gets yanked.

[@natel7382]

I really would love to see the instant ban keywords. It has to be an insane amount of words. You can't even mention that it only took three percent of the population to over throw a certain country a decade prior to 1786. I bet this gets taken down too. Trying to skirt the censors is a fun minigame to play while on the toilet.

[@Lamenter_A.G.K.T]

IKR!? I’ve had the most mild comments disappear into the void!

[@Jokervision744]

It's terrible, sad, and bad.

[@JankSmanks]

I hate that if I search something, KZbin automatically thinks that's all I'm interested in. I have to go through extra steps to delete history.

[@MrsS3lfDestruct]

Yes. It encourages us to live in such bubbles. As if we don't struggle enough in that area by ourselves

[@LeonserGT]

Tbh the process of deleting a video from the view history is already an automated reflex for me, but how to delete specific search request without nuking it all?

[@violinfanatickamraz1403]

Lol I have the opposite problem. I want the youtubers I'm subscribed to to be all I see but it's not working.

[@spartanboosts]

@@violinfanatickamraz1403 you go to the subscription tab to see only videos of people you’re subbed to.

[@SGIMartin]

Contrary to popular believe, recommender systems are extremely hard to make good

[@bgtubber]

We are already seeing this. Some months ago KZbin started filling up with hundreds of fake "science" channels like "Space Voyager" that pump literally 10 videos every single day narrated by AI voices. All their videos are complete clickbait and have very similar titles and thumbnails. They also use the faces of Joe Rogan, Michio Kaku and Neil deGrasse Tyson over and over on every video to make the content seem more credible. Their channels all have very similar generic names and logos too. Absolutely horrible low quality content, or slop, as you said. It's only a matter of time for others to follow suit.

[@phoenixjones7191]

I got an ad the other day with a joe Rogan voice for a pair of binoculars developed by a navy seal commander that can see through walls. We live in a boring dystopia.

[@nofme]

I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed these channels

[@tonyblitz1]

I commented above, but I first noticed it with an automotive "top ten" type channel, which had AI replying to comments, and linked to a paired AI Twitter account, which was botted to hell and also generating content/replying to comments. So the entire process of being a content creator has seemingly been automated.

[@mrclint7377]

Instagram is flooded with the same AI garbage too. A video with a caption in style of "what if there existed a channel about X content" and a generic channel name involving X.

[@czwarty7878]

Same with history content, especially WWII. Horrid slop filled with myths and straight up lies with random photo slides and AI voiceover, pumping out dozens of videos every day and what's worst getting easily 300k+ views because algorithm promotes it What's sad is sometimes seeing in comments a guy who tries to point out "mistakes" in these videos, not realising that no, author didn't make mistake, there is no author, it's all AI generated slop. But huge majority of people can't even notice it, we're truly cooked as society

[@keith3140]

“Non AI” will become the new premium going forward. Similar to saying “organic” or “Made in the US”.

[@TrueNativeScot]

and similarly to such food labels, it will be a lie. A lot of content branded "Non AI" ill also be AI

[@lynrayy]

Nah, "orginic" is cringe

[@kotenoklelu3471]

​@@TrueNativeScotYou can buy from farmer directly. I saw one person going at great lengths to buy from Amish, because he believes they grow organic food.

[@Fourtune1]

@@lynrayyno it’s not… you must be 11 and have never bought groceries before.

[@Asrashas]

@@lynrayy Why do you believe that to be so?

[@WikiSnapper]

The problem is, if the AI realizes the term "Real Human" gets more clicks, it will use that in its own marketing even if it is false.

[@InvasionAnimation]

I already saw a couple that uses it.

[@HasekuraIsuna]

Hopefully that is reportable, and with some strikes perhaps the channel is down... perhaps.

[@Buttz2Buttz]

Makes it able to be manipulated. Time to get "UwU" forced on YT AI algo.

[@XBluDiamondX]

Well, it's no different from clickbait, which is already too prevalent.

[@sarahsmith840]

Especially if it's false.

[@MillywiggZ]

It’s already made Google image searches impossible, you search for anything and around a quarter will be AI generated images with the same tags.

[@Agiranto]

Quarter? More than 70%! Do you know how hard it is to find a good reference photo now? I'm not even going to start about Pintrest

[@Furebel]

@@Agiranto I straight up dropped art because of that. I don't know of any place where you can find references anymore. Even if you write "-ai" or have a search engine that automatically filters ai images, it just won't do it well. Pr00mpters often don't tag their diarrhea as ai generated, and if you're working on something robotic, than images from before generative ai boom might vanish too because they would be tagged as ai in the old meaning of the word. It just makes no sense at this point...

[@dkosmari]

Sadly, other search engines are also being polluted. Kids are very close to understanding how the web was prior to Google, where you just had no hope of finding anything on search engines, so you didn't even bother.

[@Furebel]

When Kojima predicted humanity will drown in junk information, I don't think he envisioned how much and how trash this junk information will be...

[@benji45645]

Don't forget that reverse image search is useless now too. If a pic contains a person, it can't be reverse searched.

[@ZadakLeader]

KZbin just sucks so much ass these days. It's absolutely unbearable

[@Lewis94YouTube]

And yet here we remain

[@angelmessenger8240]

@@Lewis94KZbin Not many of the people I watch go to other platforms presumably because they don't pay as much, or at all.

[@malvarado9912]

​@@Lewis94KZbinnebula is a solid alternative. I like it for educational content and it's cheap

[@AquarianNomadic]

Just canceled my premium account. No way I'm paying to be censored. This place has become a NWO hotbed.

[@CrackBabyZaches]

It's sad, there was a time when I went to youtube, I knew I could set a mood. If I wanted something mind-bending, I'd go to vsauce or PBS space. If I wanted to laugh my butt off, we had actual funny lolcows like Jason Genova and solid funny bloggers like NatesVlogs that I could count on to deliver. Phone pranking scene was booming. Nowadays, youtube is pure mud. No matter what you search for, you get totally unrelated results that algorithm thinks you gonna like. Half of them are the videos I already watched and clicked off. Any edgy comedy is totally off-limits. Channels that post daily dominate the algorithm - some of them are good, but posting this often quickly makes them run out of ideas and they resort to stealing or recycling old content. Every comment section if full of "Blud thinks he is..." and "We making it outa ... with this one." type comments - the only exception being smaller channels posting on deep topics. It's basically just as bad as cable TV now - just much cheaper. But it also doesn't have production budget of cable networks.

[@inthefade]

The instant I hear a video narration that sounds like AI I tell YT to never suggest that channel again.

[@HavianEla]

Same. I already get so picky with voices, the grating quality of an AI voice is like taking a cheese grater to the eardrum!

[@earlpipe9713]

Same, except I post a comment first calling the channel's owner a tr@nsvestite of speech.

[@Yipper64]

im fairly interested in AI stuff myself but when I see a channel actively using it for narration I immediately do the same.

[@ParGellen]

Same. If I hear Tuvok (why is it always Tuvok?) try to read one more poorly written AI generated sci-fi story I'm going to throw my computer out the window.

[@sandeegrey5977]

Thankfully if you're good enough you can still generally tell, but I hate to say that it probably won't last long

[@Phearsum]

If I had a dollar for everytime my comments got deleted immediately after posting for absolutely no feasible reason, I still wouldn't pay for KZbin Premium.

[@sole__doubt]

I dont know how you can stand to use Yt without paying for premium.

[@DanteLikesRock]

@@sole__doubt simple. adblock on pc, Re-Vanced for android.

[@kotenoklelu3471]

​@@sole__doubtMaybe he pays for VPN and switched to Russia. KZbin switched off advertisement for Russia, because Russia was trying to rob KZbin and they have to close all offices and leave Russia. There was of course other reasons to leave Russia like Ukraine war.

[@sole__doubt]

@@kotenoklelu3471 Im going to look into that it sounds like a good idea. :)

[@TheHylianJuggalo]

Get revanced. It emulates premium but still deletes cimments (premium is just as comment-delete-happy) Also, making something so unbearable or unusable, with its only solution being money, is called EXTORTION. ​@sole__doubt

[@Magic_monkey_man]

Imagine the absolute brain rot that's going to be children's entertainment. Like the slop that people let their kids watch now is awful but imagine an AI that's sole purpose is to create the most addictive children's content

[@kyer9677]

Honestly this worries me so much...

[@derMaex]

Dead Internet theory still going strong...

[@tetrisgonzo37]

how is it just a theory at this point? at which point will you say that the internet as we knew it is already dead? A single look at generic feeds in any social media/search engine shows that content is produced by automated software, for automated crawlers and data harvesters. Hard to actually measure I guess, I'm no data scientist to prove it either. But if you are at least somewhat aware of the ecosystem, it takes just one look. Lmao at grandpas browsing ai slop and straight up believing it

[@bozbozman1575]

I am from the early internet days. It was all fake trash in the beginning. I am more shocked people started to believe that everything on there was real😂

[@letsgobrandon416]

Yeah, I'm older than the internet, it was better only in that you had to try to use it, it wasn't being pumped into your brain like it is now, and it was much more distributed. But I wouldn't say the content was better. It was still mostly misinformation. It was way simpler though, and webpages loaded faster, even though you were on dialup because the website wasn't pulling hundreds of megs applets from all over the web.

[@mattyg69ification]

I brought that up in a 'live chat' of over 2k people watching a hockey game. In a slew of hundreds of random commenters, only one other person said they were 'real' lol

[@edeasley144]

When I first heard the theory, I thought it was funny spin on Internet culture, but as time goes on I think of it more and more. KZbin videos that have hundreds of thousands of views with comments that are almost all bots spamming some obscure crypto is the hot new investment. Bots talking to one another in a downward spiral of nonsense. I wonder how many people are using bots to pump views and visits to their channels and websites to feed the algorithm that they are the hot new place to be, despite no real people visiting or watching.

[@Tehstampede]

If you told me 10 years ago that the first jobs lost to AI would be the creative field, I would have called you insane.

[@ZachScape_]

Ok boomer

[@devinschexnayder7440]

I guess its easier and safer to make software than to autonomously oversee a bunch of robots in a factory or something.

[@aj0413_]

…Uh, factory workers? The new fast food prep robot? Roomba? Those self help grammar tools? Tools for auto formatting code and/or generating bits of it? This is not nearly the first lmfao What I listed above is all the same basic technology; LLM and image stuff isn’t new or magical. This is just a refinement on existing tech letting it be more broadly applied

[@Snoozl]

It happened to translators 10 years ago

[@LRK-GT]

We all *really* want to think we're more original and unpredictable than we really are. Reductionistically, all 'creativity' is merely remixing, and AI excels at pattern recognition and recreation. Nihil Novum Sub Sole

[@dsagent]

It is important to ALWAYS click the three dots and choose. Not Interested or Don't recommend channel. My feed is pretty good after years of doing this.

[@Saliferous]

Right? I do not see any ai content.

[@kobold7466]

i get the same videos recommended and the same channels recommended at least a couple times after i do this

[@tettorotto]

Same here! Another good tip is if you want to watch a video but don't want that topic to pollute your recommendations, watch it in a new private window.

[@elLooto]

@@kobold7466 it takes some time for things to propagate through a distributed server system.

[@pandalover900]

the private tab method fails when the video is age redtricted which then requires a log in.

[@The-Man-On-The-Mountain]

I just want to go back being a teenage at the 80's. I hate all this weird, dystopian, horrible world. This is not what the future was supposedly going to be.

[@elLooto]

at least if we go back we know that the media yelling "Ronnie and Maggie are going to start a nulcear war!!!1" is just typical media fearmongering

[@Window4503]

Didn’t the trajectory already start in the 80’s (Reagan)? The era isn’t the problem here. Past philosophy was always leading to now. It’s just that no one thought it all the way through and those who did were ignored.

[@Code7Unltd]

@@Window4503 The tech businesses desired and financed the creation of a "doomsday machine". The very same one that sci-fi writers warned people against.

[@telmegidd0]

Everything started going downhill after Fed was created

[@PurifyWithLight]

@@Window4503 Close, it started with Jimmy Carter.

[@DruidicDonkey]

It's... pretty depressing watching something I grew up with (the internet) basically become a corrupted mess. filled to the brim with greedy corporations, Ai/crypto bros, scams, sanitization, extremism.. etc.with no signs of going away. The internet also has condensed down to basically a max of 6 sites with barely anyone adventuring outside of those 6. Each year, the internet seems 10x worse than what it was the previous year and it makes me wish the past 20-ish years was all a dream because I'd love to wake up in the early 2000's where everything that went wrong on the internet in the past 20-ish years didn't happen yet.

[@NeighborhoodWatchMann]

Now looking back on it, that was the reason why we liked it so much. Because it was totally void of any corporate bullshit. Well I mean Yahoo and ask Jeeves and Google were all ad driven, but other than that sites were maintained by individuals, boring boards were actively visited daily and updated. Everything was so brand new, but also free and void from monetary shit.

[@NeighborhoodWatchMann]

Forum boards not boring boards***

[@DruidicDonkey]

@@NeighborhoodWatchMann yeah. The internet was a mess back then too, admittedly, but it was a fun mess, not this boring, corporate bullshit.

[@NeighborhoodWatchMann]

@@DruidicDonkey Im not sure if you play online games, but they are the same way. Most people dont talk at all. Back then you would get on and everyone knew and had intercourse with your mom. It was chaotic, but it was much more real.

[@lynrayy]

Same

[@QuiteSpiffing]

The amount of youtube channels that have already popped up, all "voiced" by AI with similarly broken captions by an AI interpreter recently.. I stopped using KZbin on my phone because I got sick of all the slop.

[@dkosmari]

No kidding. This last month, KZbin recommended fake science, fake history, fake astronomy, fake chemistry, fake metallurgy, fake carpentry videos, all AI-voiced, and no-doubt, AI-scripted.

[@elLooto]

They infected the "reddit reader" genre first. because lets face it that even lower effort content than recation channels.

[@sunla]

Every time these pop up, I hop on the video, give it a thumbs-down, back out, "don't recommend channel", and last, remove it from my watch history. They hardly appear anymore, and hopefully that means their internal (AI) algorithm is connecting the dots. And hopefully that data gets interpreted as "AI slop is undesirable"... Wishful thinking, anyway. In the short term, it's working. That is until my clueless husband watches some AI slop on his account, and because we're connected to the same wifi network, I have to see another wave of that crap.

[@PopcornMax179]

How does watching on PC change that?

[@elLooto]

@@PopcornMax179 PC has tools that fix youtube.

[@Linpuff]

Future? My KZbin feed has been awful stuff/stuff I've already seen for the past 3 months now. The future is now.

[@HeadingForExecution]

Yeah i already have tons of AI generated garbage in my feed, it's all just clickbait. Ain't worth it to even look at.

[@vmcprojects]

I keep getting recommended "cute cat" videos (mercilessly) and other topics I have absolutely no interest in. It doesn't matter how often I dislike and tell KZbin "I'm Not Interested", it still insists that I need more cat videos. So every time I refresh the home page, I click on whatever cat videos that appears, instantly downvote the video and then click on "I'm Not Interested", just so that I can get less cat video recommendations. I used to wonder why would someone dislike a wholesome video, but I now understand it's the algorithm that's instigating people into insanity. I almost feel bad for the people I dislike their videos, but my sanity comes first above all else. KZbin will only get worse from here.

[@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1]

It's getting exponentially worse.

[@thesaddestdude3575]

I keep getting recomended awfull Ai generated music, i trained the algo to recomend small creators and sometimes i would find music that ended up with millions of views which was wild, but now all i get is jumble beats and titles that dont make sense at all.

[@eggi4443]

​@@vmcprojects don't dislike them. as far as I know dislikes are the same type of engagement as likes. I use "don't recommend" a lot and it works well for me

[@natel7382]

I cant stand social media now. Twitter is pure ads. It's so bad that the only way to view it from a pc with a blocker. You really can't use the internet at all without a blocker. I hate using my phone.

[@MartyrPandaGaming]

The Brave Browser isn't perfect, but it sure does help.

[@abdou.the.heretic]

​@@MartyrPandaGamingcrypto and awards and whatever the fuck, Mozilla is the way, I personally donated to their cause.

[@Lewis94YouTube]

I use firefox on my adroid to watch yt with blocked ads

[@Jokervision744]

Yeah I'm getting sick of it. Even the few good ones get flooded by it.

[@saschaberger3212]

ReVanced. Idk why that such a secret for everyone. Just use it

[@Snakedude4life]

Even the search function has ceased to actually do its job. “Here’s five videos that are slightly relevant and now I am looping your recommended videos!” 🎩 🐍 no step on Snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰

[@hyliaphora-cecropia]

The search function is garbage now, oh you want a specific video? Here’s something tangentially related and then 5 videos from your recommended feed that have nothing to do with what you searched. I remember seeing a video where ProZD (a comedian/voice actor on the platform) tried to search up a skit of his, only to be blasted with non-related garbage. The exact title of the video didn’t pull it up, and this is a video with millions of views. Trying to find smaller videos is even worse from my experience

[@HighPriestFuneral]

@@hyliaphora-cecropia As I recall it even showed videos of people reacting to his video before he could even find his original video.

[@arkgaharandan5881]

i hate that, especially the fact that even if you block the channels they still pop up and they are completely irrelevant to what you searched.

[@when-do-we-get-a-block-button]

​@@arkgaharandan5881 thats unfortunately how "blocking" on KZbin has always worked (afaik) it ONLY stops the user from commenting on YOUR videos. i despise it, at least twitter (had) has a good block system, you block them and they can never see your stuff and you never have to see their unless you manually bypass the block. why do you think my youtube @ is what it is lmfaoo

[@SurfbyShootin]

Its intentionally trying to lower attention span on a personalized level. Search for things on boring political stuff, scroll one page and get funny cat videos.

[@troublesome07]

i feel bad for both old folks, and the very young. They wont be able to distinguish what's real and what's not.

[@sadssddsd2926]

sooo true...some alternative site must be designed especially for elderly people

[@TheTwinkelminkelson]

Let's be real, even those in the middle aren't immune.

[@finkamain1621]

@@TheTwinkelminkelson Unless you're trained to spot/hear it. Facebook is a mess with AI posts trying to lure Boomers into scams. I see something so blatantly fake with a bunch of bot comments underneath and then there's a real person [You can tell if they're a public profile with recent pictures of themselves and family] that gets pestered by bots wanting to send messages or friend requests or to click on external links

[@DrDavidThor]

It started with silicon breasts and now look at us.

[@monstersaint]

How old are "old folks"?

[@Jfrog111]

And people were saying the Dead Internet Theory was a conspiracy....no it was a prophecy...smh

[@jayboy2kay7]

Most “conspiracies” actually have more truth to them than most want to know. Either because people would rather bury their head in the sand, or because for some ideological reason, an out of the box thought somehow makes you “Far right” which is absolute BS.

[@skinneis]

The difference between conspiracy and fact is 10 to 50 years nowadays.

[@misadis2680]

@@skinneis more like ~ months now

[@davidbeddoe6670]

Try "commercial inevitability".

[@caffeinatedbliss2193]

Funny how that keeps happening. One of my favorite sayings lately has been "Whats the difference between a conspiracy and the truth? About 6 months." It really is happening/being revealed much faster than decades.

[@rustymustard7798]

Dead internet theory is real AF.

[@saschaberger3212]

Proof you're real asap or I call the cops

[@joelbaker9366]

"I assure you, I am a real person."

[@ukeleleiguana]

​@@saschaberger3212 beep. Boop. My pants I pooped 🎉

[@madladon]

The city with the highest reddit traffic is a town of a couple thousand people that just so happens to be the home of an air force base

[@LuisSierra42]

@@saschaberger3212 I assure you that mf is not real

[@yuranicelady]

This whole situation makes me sick. Clearly not alone here. I’ve already noticed a bunch of AI crap clogging my feed. Especially the ones with the AI generated distorted celebrity faces and clickbait titles that are just flat out misinformation. I heard something about KZbin developing tools for people to make generated content including music made to sound like popular singers. It all feels so unnecessary and quite literally dehumanizing. Even though this channel is faceless, you’ve encouraged me to think more critically about what I encounter online and for that I am grateful!

[@TheDiner50]

Look at the bright side. At least we get to see and learn how to spot the diffrence gradually. The horrible stuff we are seeing now is so bad you can actually tell by looking at it. The things showing up right now looks so strange that you actually can belive it is some behinde the controls of the thing. Simply with to bad taste and/or not enough fine tuning yet to be automated into being invisible. Imagine being born into the world today? 5 years ago? Idk. And your parents leave you to be entertained with.... This. Have watched some Netflix recently. More mordern movies etc. What a pile of shit everything is.... I mean it has a charm to it. Some things are actually really good. Yet it seems increadbile what kind of budgets are used on special effects etc... For increadibly badly desinged plots and such. Going to remeber all the good times on KZbin. Having a actual good understanding what it was like before whatever go down, downtown.

[@finkamain1621]

Windows 10, SnapChat, Facebook, Instagram, and X all have some type of AI thing now generated in them. Facebook is creepy as well how bellow some posts there will be a bunch of question suggestions to ask the AI that is related to the post, almost as if they're using the public for the AI to learn. This is usually for nefarious reasons like that old app called Candid where anyone was anonymous and you can ask groups anything and it turned out they shut Candid down because it was an AI learning tool for censorship once they gathered enough data and it was used directly by KZbin's algorithm to delete comments they don't want

[@dissonantdreams]

Ever since I turned off ad personalisation I get served those exact type of videos but as ads. Google clearly aren’t doing any vetting at all for the advertisers they’ll accept

[@INGLES.Gratis]

@@TheDiner50KZbin had more bad quality and cats than we have now, with amazing and fluid channels like these. Don't be so pessimistic; people will choose humans or they'll click off. Remember: the algorythm follows the audience. ALWAYS.

[@CallMeTeci]

We already have that in the science space. Kyle Hill made a video about that a while ago. AI scans transcripts of videos, writes its own script based on it, generates pictures on that basis and uploads videos that are complete trash - but thousands of them. Its not just a very big problem and will 100% cause another adpocalypse at some point, but it is also dangerous having so much scientific misinformation spread on KZbin and i expect similar concepts with all kinds of content, incl something like Reviews. (Cant wait for companies to buy masses of AI-Reviews for KZbin, similar to fake Reviews on Amazon and Co.) We are heading into the "Dead Internet" with lightspeed atm.

[@chrisw6164]

Was subbed to a channel that I thought was run by a 20-something young kid. It was about true crime and unsolved mysteries and such. The channel was pretty good but I thought the kid’s voice was not great. He had a mild speech impediment, talking through his nose. It seemed to be getting better so I figured the kid was improving. Then I came across another channel doing “road rage” shorts. These also had a youngish guy’s voice with a mild speech impediment. Not the same voice as the other channel, BUT it was definitely an AI because the same channel used a few different AI voices for their road videos. So I started paying closer attention to the mystery channel. It finally dawned on me that it was AI. The voice never seemed to falter, even though I _thought_ it was a young kid. It has to be AI and I actually got fooled. Eye opening.

[@DrDavidThor]

For added fun, what if it's you?

[@chrisw6164]

@@DrDavidThor What if what’s me? What are you talking about?

[@kotenoklelu3471]

It's truly horrifying. KZbin recommended me news video from USA that said that person was scammed by AI voice of her relative, she thought her daughter was kidnapped, she said voice cried like her daughter cries. And she paid ransom. And it was just a scam with AI voice. Also there are this prankers in Russia who would call famous people and would pretend to be Ukrainian president or official and they will try to make this person say that they support Ukraine and then they will get in trouble with police in Russia because they said something that was against law in Russia. It's not just voice but also deep fakes. Did you saw Putin was asked question by Putin?

[@XenonJohnD]

If you make a documentary video as an actual human, you can manually add a narration generated by a voice actor or, more recently, an AI voice that converts your script to speech which is much cheaper. It doesn't mean the whole video has been created by AI. Useful tool if you have a regional accent or English is not your first language.

[@cranberrijuicc]

@@XenonJohnDwhat’s the problem with a regional accent?

[@saphi20]

youtube feed? whats that? the home page? i get 0 videos there since i disabled youtube's history, never been happier.

[@ShemPayne]

I know what you mean. I got sick of the algorithm pigeonholing me into the same kinds of topics. So I deleted my history to try to get a fresh start and it's like the algorithm wants to punish you. NO VIDEOS FOR YOU!

[@smelltheglove2038]

I haven't bothered with the "recommended" feed in years. I use my subscription feed only.

[@cormoran2303]

Same, it keeps begging me to turn it back on 😄

[@BlogingLP]

How can I do that?

[@Rusty_Shackleford099]

@@BlogingLP I have tried to post the directions twice but youtube keeps deleting them (go figure??). However, if you google the phrase "turn off youtube history", the first result will be from google help forum and will get you where you need to go.

[@voxdeus]

These developers were so preoccupied with whether or not they could do this , they didn’t stop to think if they should do this.

[@hillehai]

I believe this will be the thought of practically every human being in the not-so-far future. It's basically the theme of our self-made demise.

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

​@@hillehai being that the source of all this is spiritual, it just make sense that this is the state that we're in.

[@BlogingLP]

@voxdeus ^ | |__ This comment is sponsored by corpored greed

[@cormoran2303]

That's how we ended up with the coof.

[@TheGhostOfJohnWicksBeagle]

Dr Malcolm confirmed.

[@playpal9950]

It’s crazy how many generic copy and paste channel names, thumbnails, and topics are on KZbin with identical AI content. It’s absolutely crazy already. It’s hard to believe it can get any more saturated. Dead internet theory is getting closer to a reality everyday

[@HavianEla]

Makes me wonder what the next “big thing” will be. Radio to tv, tv to internet- what will be the next massive technological advancement that completely revolutionizes the way we live and go about our days in society?! I’m just so looking forward to seeing it.

[@akopowerletsplay3884]

my videos are not shown to my followers

[@ny4nk0]

Welcome to the club. It was depressing at first, but now I do art for myself and a small community of people who genuinely appreciate it, and feel much freer than before. Maybe it, in a strange way, is for the best. Rather than shouting into the void, we can create our own smaller, curated communities. We can get back to socializing in a human way and escape this algorithmic nightmare.

[@HighPriestFuneral]

There was a video about this recently, I can't recall by who, that suggested that as the internet just becomes flooded with further and further bots the real humans will sink back into their niches, which in my view may rebirth the old individual forum system, which I greatly prefer.

[@julhizantwo2277]

Good old forum and irc era. At least facebook page i joined were fine and all my related friend there

[@kotenoklelu3471]

​@@julhizantwo2277ICQ announced that it will stop working recently.

[@Blackcivicsi1]

i feel sad, even a bit depressed, that my kids will never know the wonder and connection of the internet i grew up with.

[@scj643]

Every time I get an AI voiced video I hate it and tell KZbin not to recommend it

[@Callmethebreeze902]

I don’t watch. I exit quickly.

[@DrDavidThor]

Did this guy show his face here? I skipped a little at the ads.

[@scj643]

There actually is one exception to this rule and that's some blender quick tips

[@rackreman]

I feel like KZbin and Google search in general refuses to give you what you search for. Everything funnels back into other things you’ve been viewing. I can look up Minecraft and 7 videos down Minecraft content is gone and it basically just my view history from there down.

[@FuelAirSparkTime]

Minecraft is gey

[@earlpipe9713]

You can turn your view history off on KZbin, and it makes things much much better

[@cormoran2303]

The dark future of my youtube feed is me slowly moving over to rumble where half my comments won't get arbitrarily censored.

[@Bacteriophagebs]

It's not arbitrary, it's random. "Arbitrary" means a person made a decision.

[@l-e-v-117]

​@@Bacteriophagebsand people did. People are deciding to use AI to make trash

[@shaunpatrick8345]

​@@monkeyjshowit's not capitalism, it's politics.

[@keilanl1784]

Good luck with that. Rumble is so full of far-right lunatics who are so offensive and irresponsible, advertisers won't touch the entire site with a ten-foot pole 'til they're gone.

[@Eidolon1andOnly]

​@@Bacteriophagebs Arbitrary - adjective Based off of *_random_* choice or personal whim rather than a reason.

[@sunla]

Thank you for being one of the few creators out there left with integrity. I'm a artist, and when it was just us affected, I was heartbroken to see so many other creatives pile on and try to justify its use. People started changing their minds slowly once they realized they aren't immune... Except for the good-for-nothing grifters with no skills except copying and mimicry. They are having a field day abusing generative AI.

[@bryanturnbow8189]

We shouldn’t let KZbin monetize AI generated content. It’s a harmful incentive.

[@theseabass]

I wonder how Google is going to feel when their servers are bombarded with the new influx of AI content racking up even larger storage demands. Humans can already create a seemingly endless amount of content to upload to KZbin as it is. What will happen when you can have thousands of computers making/uploading content 24/7 into infinity?

[@dkosmari]

Their servers are already being bombarded with AI garbage. Try a Google search for any tech troubleshooting problem, the top results are all AI-generated articles that don't solve the problem at all, from unknown websites. There are AI-driven tools to generate tons of websites that cross-link with each other, fill them with AI-generated comments, and then spam real websites with comments with links to fake articles; all to fool Google's, Bing's, etc web crawlers into thinking that fake part of the web is real, and give it a high page rank. Stack Overflow used to appear at the top of any tech question/troubleshooting search, now you start to see it dropping to the second results page.

[@HavianEla]

They’ll make working class humans pay for it, I’d bet.

[@jen4730]

all human effort will be channelled into keeping the server farms powered up

[@Pyroteq]

That's a great question and the first thing I thought of. Video content requires massive amounts of storage, massive amounts of processing power and massive amounts of bandwidth. That means an increase in precious metals, water and electricity as well. It's not sustainable even for Google. They'll either have to increase ads shown, charge people for watching KZbin or charge content creators to upload videos. Never made sense KZbin would host video content for free in the first place, paying to upload your videos would make the most sense.

[@dkosmari]

@@Pyroteq In my country (Brazil) the largest TV station in the country lobbied to have a law passed, to tax internet usage, to cover up for their loss of revenue. Soon, every Brazilian citizen will have to pay more on their internet bills, to give free money to the companies benefited by the new tax. That's exactly what will happen when it stops being sustainable for Google, they'll lobby to make the population sustain them through taxes.

[@0Ciju0]

You can already see massive amounts of AI channels taking over many You Tube niches. I've experienced this specifically in the "self-help" and Stoicism channels; you have an AI voice regurgitating the same content that is being pumped out

[@Code7Unltd]

I recall this starting with the 'Reality TV' niche, since there were so many channels where TTS voices would rattle off a press release. One could argue that anything new on cable is more a 'ghost in the machine' than anything meaningful and that being 'number 1' isn't that tough to do with so many specifications and the medium generally shrinking.

[@DrDavidThor]

Some days I want to streetfight Rumi.

[@RhondaFizzleflint]

I am fascinated how adamant we are to replace creative jobs with AI instead of the mundane ones.

[@Sebomai-b8i]

Mundane jobs got replaced by automation a decade+ ago. Creatives are finally getting theirs and they think they're first ever to experience this. Typical artist narcisssism.

[@kotenoklelu3471]

​@@Sebomai-b8inot all jobs were replaced. But yeah, it's crazy. There are all this people that think if we just build factory we will have good paying jobs like it was 50 years ago. And here we go, somebody builds a factory, 11 people work in it, and it produce more stuff than thousand of people could produce before. It just mind boggling. And automation is coming for very common jobs like salesman, teacher and doctor. Several shops in my city with 300 thousand people in middle income country have self buying option. I used it several times. Once I wasn't cautious and bought one item two times. I have to call manager. For now I prefer people if there is no queue. And Chinese say AI teachers are better than real. If you think about it, it maybe true. Chinese build first healthcare facility powered by AI. I didn't watch video. I am scared. What will we do for a living in this new world?

[@cranberrijuicc]

@@Sebomai-b8iArtists have been responsible for everything visual, entertainment wise, etc that you’ve consumed your entire life up until this point. Let’s not pit ourselves against each other as that isn’t going to solve anything.

[@Sebomai-b8i]

@@cranberrijuicc the majority of artists produce nothing worthwhile. Good art is a rarity, and most good art is made by people who are not professional artists.

[@cranberrijuicc]

@@Sebomai-b8i that’s not true - artists don’t just include painters. We’re talking visual effects artists, tattooists, graphic designers, architects, photographers, etc. Creativity is fundamental to human society, and artists deserve respect as much as the blue collar workers/“mundane workers” deserve to be in stable employment.

[@kaleiohulee6693]

One thing I've been seeing recently is a lot more fake movie trailers that basically fan cast sequels and try to pretend they're official releases. Very annoying when I'm actually curious about specific franchises and they have misleading video titles just naming themselves official trailer or teaser. This kind of tech could kill YT as an ad service platform if they don't get a handle on it. So much fake content there'd be no point putting real ads on it.

[@Window4503]

What gets me is that the comments for those seem to be mostly positive, like no one’s upset that it’s fake or misleading. Wonder if negative comments are removed…

[@LRK-GT]

F the trailers. I'd love to see kitbash'd and generated whole movies. The one thing I very much 'want' out of all this AI nonsense, is 'personalized and custom content' *you* prompt. Personal Example: Independence Day sequel, but mixed with (the video game series) Descent. Alien tech gets reversed engineered, and before ya know it a company (going by the name Post-Terran Mining Corporation) has 3/4+ of Sol under its belt, and most of the worlds' governments. But, "oh no!" the aliums have returned, and they learned from us. The mining and work bots are all rebelling from an alien virus!

[@finkamain1621]

They're recommended to me all the time when I open my Chrome app on my phone. I've watched only 1 before and found out it was clickbait and that was over a year ago and they still recommend them

[@coasterblocks3420]

The algorithm is fundamentally broken too. I like listening to soft jazz when I go to sleep but now come about 8pm, 95% of suggestions is jazz or what TY thinks is jazz anyway.

[@pastaoleary3031]

My shorts feed completely changed and now it's all trash instead of interests

[@Seed]

I completely agree.. I’ve stopped watching them

[@saphi20]

Disable your youtube history and the feed is gone

[@TheGhostFart]

imagine watching shorts

[@ParGellen]

Shorts were always trash. I set my ad blocker to remove that entire section so it won't try to come back every month!

[@kotenoklelu3471]

I try to watch only shorts that I am subscribed to. He makes good calming videos about cooking in rural area.

[@MakiNoAtorie]

"I'm not sure what to use it for, but I'm certain the opportunities are endless" must be the hidden motto behind every tech bro and company trying to get AI shoved down our throats.

[@kotenoklelu3471]

Some people actually know what to use AI for. They make drones that use AI to shoot people, there is facial recognition of missed and wanted people, there are AI teachers, AI doctors, AI is better at recognizing disease in MRI scans...

[@voxdeus]

youtube servers are not prepared for this

[@wahtari03765]

m sure bots costs thse companies a lotta money. and A.I. overuse of database interactions as well

[@HavianEla]

Nope, and I’m sure we’ll all be left to foot the bill…

[@reaven2535]

This is something not talked about nearly enough. The world lacks the infrastructure for everyone to pump out hundreds of pieces of AI content. Sure, you 'can' generate 1000 videos a day, but where is all of this going to be stored? Who is going to run it? How is that much information going to be transmitted? AI will first become the only content you can find on the internet. Then it will cripple the wider internet infrastructure. And then hopefully it'll somehow be regulated after it causes wide internet collapse. The "internet" isn't just a limitless concept. There's finite data limits to what we can accomplish, let alone the power and manufacturing needed to create that much storage and data transmission.

[@fulconandroadcone9488]

@@reaven2535 i wait for the day AI is trained on AI content, then it will be even worse, pop corn time.

[@khveteran013]

I 100% agree with you about the "Human-Made" meta. A little over half a decade ago, when the topic of conversation was robots and automated kiosks taking over minimum wage jobs, I said something to my coworker to the effect of, "Yeah, it was always inevitable that companies like McDonald's and Walmart would replace their workers with machines the moment it became cost effective to do so. Which is why it will become a selling point for other companies that they still have actual people on their payroll."

[@FailBucketFilms]

If this is being done for a monetary gain, we have to remove the monetary aspect. AI generated content should not be allowed to generate any form of ad revenue.

[@Runeinc]

Honestly been considering doing audiobook readings of public domain stories, with my own voice, and labeling it as "Real Human Read" as I have seen a number of AI generated voice audio books on KZbin.

[@solar464]

do it. you'll at least attract an audience of people pissed at AI.

[@KlaraKopf]

Audible does luckily not accept AI voices.

[@hachett7775]

LoL, i was thinking of doing the same thing myself.

[@PopcornMax179]

Then the AI will (not) thank you for your invaluable training resources.

[@LRK-GT]

@@PopcornMax179 All of this, didn't have to be this way... If we 'owned and licensed' our own MetaData, AI tools could not legally 'scrape' and 'train' off our online activities (at least w/o compensation. Which, would cripple the hyper-growth.)

[@Dan-mc7xg]

Already seeing it... AI generated songs are all over KZbin! Edit: Wait, is this AI generated???

[@Cowboycomando54]

Not just songs. I keep seeing low effort "lore" videos where its clearly just a chat bot reading a wiki article

[@SolidSnake240]

​@@Cowboycomando54Cant stand those videos but those types of vids have been around for a long time.

[@Injemoedersehuis]

That's what pop music always used to sound like. Slop.

[@Cowboycomando54]

@@SolidSnake240 Yeah, AI has just streamlined the process. In the past, you still had to be decent at script writing when using text to speech software, now the chat bot cat bot does everything.

[@Piss_Off_Plz]

"Wait, it's all AI?!" "Always has been 😈"

[@FallenEmbers33]

I looked at Ground News back when they started sponsoring everyone. They listed BBC as "center".....sooooo....take that as you will.

[@elLooto]

They call CNN "center left," presumably because their logo isnt a literal hammer and sickle.

[@dkosmari]

Ground News is known for mislabeling Christian news sources as "Far Right," I think they even got sued for that. By their own definitions, being anything other than "Center" means the source is lying. Even though they have a separated rating for "Factuality", they tied it to the political leaning. Got labeled a "Right" outlet? They say it outright, you "may be lying." The BBC is "Center"? Here's what they say about "Center" rating: "They use very few loaded words and the reporting is well sourced."

[@kamuroshiryu8453]

That is... rather dodgy.

[@ambiguousdrink4067]

Never will I ever even for a second consider using a product that I had heard of from a youtube sponsorship. Not even if that youtuber was the most reputable person in the world.

[@someguy4405]

LMAO

[@farinshore8900]

The problem with You Tube is that as a senior the only thing You Tube feeds me are shorts and music videos intended for teens. This is outrageous given the shear volume of intelligent and thought provoking content out there that I genuinely respect and enjoy. You Tube has single handedly convinced me that I am dealing with Artificial Stupidity !

[@RadmanTheWise]

My biggest concern is the waste of space. On Instagram for example, I already see hundreds of pages of a bot uploading the same clip daily just for "engagement." One clip, stolen from somewhere else, just uploaded daily so the Instagram algorithm shows it off as if it's new. We're going to run into a brick wall soon where these platforms will start charging you to upload simply because storage space will be a premium when content bots upload terabytes worth of slop every minute. It's kind of like the twitter API thing from a year ago.

[@Alltheworldsillz]

KZbin said “oh so you won’t watch his Better Help video.. I bet you’ll watch this” 😂 I don’t want to go back down this dead internet rabbit hole

[@PossessiveK]

Laziness doesn't deserve rewards. This is where I say the hatred toward AI is valid.

[@Joe-it2dh]

I miss the days in which "this sentence is false" is all it took to tell who was a bot.

[@Hawkenshmire]

Dont start 😅🤣

[@AzumiRM]

There are a lot of automatically produced videos on KZbin. Especially when it comes to science videos. The script is usually fleshed out with unnecessary wording.

[@BloodyMobile]

5:55 feels like a "the path to hell is plastered with good intentions" moment...

[@Garrett122]

Well thank GOD I don't have a Feed anymore. Just a subscription page.

[@ownmicelio]

I been doing this for years now, since the moment the homepage start recommending stuff I didnt follow nor wanted to see. KZbin /subscription is my main page

[@ownmicelio]

And for android, de RE one

[@curtisparenteau4704]

Too bad ive lost alot of old channels i was subscribed to due to losing my old account

[@SadeN_0]

SponsorBlock + DeArrow + DF Tube + Shorts Block (df tube & shorts block keep trading places in which has what functions working)

[@sarahsmith840]

@TheScepticalThinker1 Seconded!

[@beekoy]

You can already see these in Military / weapons and engineering type content channels, where they present the ''Top 10'' of everything or ''Reasons why the ____ ...''

[@earlpipe9713]

The animation generated for those is always the same creepy, garish and extremely unpleasant to look at style. Hopefully people in general have enough taste to stop viewing such AI churned garbage, and it becomes a self correcting thing

[@finkamain1621]

And history channels. We have people now that believe there were photographs of people in the 1600's. I also just don't understand how people before would always call something out if it was photoshop and to never click links and never give your personal information away... but it seems that as the internet has become more mainstream, everything is getting worse

[@paulsaulpaul]

I had a flood of AI generated content on my feed about 9-12 months ago. It suddenly stopped. I recently cleared my youtube feedback and blocked channel history (the list of things you clicked "do not recommend" and "not interested" on). I do this from time to time when I'm feeling generous to give all the channels a fresh start with youtube's personalization algorithm. I've noted that the AI-generated content has not returned. That's a good thing. You can spot it a mile away. I publish on Medium (basically youtube for writers in terms of content visibility, monetization, and subject matter). We recently completely banned AI-generated content. We strongly discouraged it previously, and made it less visible. But it has recently been banned, and you'll get action taken against your account for putting it out there. It's very obvious when someone copy/pastes the output of a LLM and publishes it. We don't want that trash next to our writing. The only people copy/pasting that stuff are just putting out content pollution as you describe. It lowers the value of the work of legitimate writers. Writers on that platform are paid a ratio of each users' subscription that reads your work, so a flood of bad writing on a subject just lowers the ratio paid to the good writing. There are no ads. But Medium is much smaller than KZbin, and it's heavily curated by humans in addition to the algorithmic curation. They also go to lengths to block the IPs of data collection services that will feed our published writing to AI. It doesn't stop all of it, but it slows it down. That's obviously not an option on KZbin since your published content is feeding at least Google's generative AI models. Well, that's just my thoughts and observations on things. I honestly don't see the AI-generated content like I used to. At least the scripts sound original. I do still see some people using AI voice narration over stock footage. But they're usually small channels, with creators that are perhaps camera or mic shy. "Faceless" channels. Too much stock footage, though, will cause me to disregard or block a channel. Now what's going to piss me off is if I find out some of these faceless channels are stealing original essays from other writers putting out quality work.

[@earlpipe9713]

I've noticed that the AI generated content always has a kind of off-putting, soulless, uncanny valley effect to it, that I think will spell it's doom as The creative source for content, instead of as just one tool used, among many others, by an actual human creative force

[@ReyZar666]

i love the future of internet where 99.9% of it is just ai, the replay to videos are ai, the videos are ai, the 'content creator' is ai, holly fucking shit, Internet is DEAD

[@CherryChzCakes]

I really enjoy your videos.. but.. for some reason I've noticed my cat enjoys them more.. he's never acknowledged that he can even see the TV until I started watching you, now I'll just let your videos play while I'm asleep or if I leave because he really seems to enjoy it. So good job unintentionally capturing multiple species with your wisdom. Quite an accomplishment lol. Please keep up the phoneminal work! 😂❤

[@rustymustard7798]

@UppperEchelon The AI strat isn't to make better videos than you to replace you, it's to lower the viewer's expected standards to where the mediocre slop is acceptable then replace you with slightly higher quality slop. Lower the bar to clear it, work smart, not hard.

[@darkguardian1314]

I have a ban list for any source using AI to generate word salad. Fortunately, people like to share and brag about doing it and on the list they go. I’m also counting on AI detection tools to help detect articles. Having a channel running automatically with little human input or thought on what impact their content will have is concerning.

[@bigfishymushy]

I found that telling Google not to track watch history, while it kill the For You page, makes the rest of the site more useable, both searches and recommended

[@Tim5corpion]

I went ahead and turned mine off

[@igitha..._]

I've noticed lately that I'm getting mostly recommendations for things that I've already seen more than once, recommendations from my own playlist, increasing corporate input of businesses such as news stations, things that are completely irrelevant, from countries I have nothing to do with, and some content that is so repulsive or infantile I'm embarrassed for the uploader. There's so much wrong with this platform.

[@DanielW-m9d]

KZbin search algoritm and recommendations is the worst thing in modern tech history

[@ephraimwinslow]

Homey created the tool that's going to destroy culture, and thought: "I'll show it in a public post!"

[@ephraimwinslow]

@@bigsyrup8567 It's so weird seeing like 4-5 simultaneous and unstoppable forces work in perfect concert to breakdown global order... and being oddly OK with it? Playing the fiddle merrily beats nervous handwringing, I guess.

[@LRK-GT]

@@bigsyrup8567 'Sadly' Bluedrake comes off as "genuine", not 'smart'. Technology and tools are always a 'double-edged blade'. Some of us are still interested in working with/developing those technologies (even/especially when misuse is inevitable). [IoT devices and passive sensor network development come to mind, as well.]

[@kajamatousek247]

​@@ephraimwinslowI don't think it's quite as serious as all that. High quality content won't get replaced and commentary slop doesn't matter since it's just background noise anyway so who cares if AI does it instead of people ? (And yes, once AI advances enough to replace the high quality content I WILL move the goalposts. I'm here to consume content, I don't care who creates it)

[@jubbalubby]

I really hope youtube as a platform can adapt their algorithm to filter out generative content like this. Not to shun them, but give a disclaimer that this content is massed produced by non-humans. I believe in customers choice in a free market, but it must be communicated with clear information

[@ephraimwinslow]

Y'know what you find out real fast about AI generated content? It sucks. It feels like exactly what it is: random garbage put out by a random number generator.

[@when-do-we-get-a-block-button]

they literally just have to add a small flag that says "ai generated" dont even remove the content! it has plenty of reasons to exist just TELL US what we are watching so WE can choose. oh wait.... they dont want us to choose for ourselves...

[@robertfoertsch]

Excellent Analysis, Deployed Worldwide Through My Deep Learning AI Research Library. Thank You.

[@primedasymmium]

Fitting title came up into my feed as I was complaining to myself about how my feed only seems to give me crap I don't care about just because I've probably watched something once then it just gives me brainrot-style content loosely related to things the algorithm thinks I am extremely specifically interested in

[@freku2438]

Ive seen few accounts about philosophy and spirituality doing 100k's views with videos that are clearly written and dubbed with ai and footage are just some images or stock videos and people in comments seems to not even realise its probably 90% ai

[@freku2438]

so the question is: is it bad if people appreciate those vids?

[@Sebomai-b8i]

And how do you know all of those comments are real?

[@123followtheleader]

@@freku2438 yes. wisdom can barely be found in humans, it wont be found in human made algorithms. if spirituality and 'philosophy' are that easily manufactured, then whats being taught is wrong, incorrect. everyone is moving away from reason. no one knows, nor wants to know the importance of measuring contradictions and its making everyone weak, stupid, and evil

[@kaydreamer]

Same, I noticed spirituality and philosophy topics started drowning under a deluge of AI generated garbage a few months ago. Almost ironic that those two intrinsically human pursuits were one of the first to begin drowning in this wave of fake bullshit. I'm a visual artist, so I knew this was coming for video creators, just like it ruined my field.

[@kotenoklelu3471]

​@@kaydreamerit also two fields where you can come up with total idiotic content and people will buy it. I actually were involved in psychology which in my country was flooded with spirituality and other feel good but doing nothing and has nothing to do with actual science stuff for ages. I think AI therapy would be a thing. I actually want to see actual scientific AI therapy. It would be fun to watch when all this gurus who say it all about human interaction will be out of business because they actually do nothing. Of course some humans will be in this business forever. But AI will beat the crap out of many psychologists that I know.

[@palamedes4740]

Remember 2 years from now when artists told KZbinrs they were next and got laughed at? Who's laughing now? If you never sided with Ai this doesn't apply to you, but for those who told artists to shut up or "'get good" I do hope you keep the same energy when your livelihood is at stake. I take no pleasure in this, but the irony is too big to ignore. And for viewers, don't get too comfortable at that cubicle job, your boss already knows you're on Facebook and Reddit half of the time, the second they can get your workload done in a fraction of the time for a fraction of the pay you're getting the axe too. Nobodies safe, how long will it take y'all to understand that?

[@Ghost_Text]

Its sad. This is the problem with normalcy bias. Now that things like Windows recall and google search generative experience is announced. Now people finally panic because its in their backyard. If only people were proactive. But big tech keeps cutting deals with major publishers hoping to leverage this and anesthetising people to the long term dystopia big tech are laying the groundwork for. The whole backlash to astoturfed political correctness didnt come from institutions. It came from people with a cultural frame of reference from before the mid 2010s. Institutions and Silicon Valley didnt encourage that? No theyre weaponizing convenience to put the genie of human freedom and agency back in the bottle, and continue to sleepwalk people into a society that exists on the terms of the powerful. Nay. drowing out humanity in bot influencer content would their greatest counterattack.

[@jetthardin4927]

Get a job in the trades, robotics technology doesn't advance nearly as fast as information technology. Even if they can train AIs on how to do things until there are robots that can execute their orders they still need competent individuals. Eventually it'll happen but I doubt in my lifetime

[@jetthardin4927]

The trades

[@Window4503]

@@jetthardin4927Probably in your lifetime. I remember someone giving me flack for estimating that a certain advancement in AI would happen within five years (forget what it was) when they gave it decades. Guess what? It happened about a month after that exchange.

[@JNJNRobin1337]

@@jetthardin4927 they're already getting robotics technology mixed with ai, so. inevetably, within as few as a few years, it might happen

[@cainjacob4137]

I think that the internet will go back to it's peer to peer thingy. Like in counter strike lobbies where the people know each other, rather than having a global ladder.

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

Nah. You're talking about people getting off the internet and touching grass. Lan parties

[@cainjacob4137]

@@Ellis-Tor You’ve just shown that you don’t know what I wrote… btw counter strike is still played and updated so I don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s like people setting up servers for their friends or having a white-list. Or you can go the government route and have your id connected to the game servers but that is a huge can of worms. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@arkgaharandan5881]

yeah with blockchains, this is what life after google book says and it will be paid not free because with free you are the product.

[@santa_with_a_gun]

ah yes, couch party

[@dakota9821]

@@cainjacob4137 "You’ve just shown that you don’t know what I wrote… " Well when the only the only thing you post is factually untrue garbage.... "btw counter strike is still played and updated so I don’t know what you’re talking about." No it's not. *Counter-strike global offensive 2* is the only CS game that is "constantly updated" you mong. You don't know what he's talking about because you're a clown posting nonsense. Yes, people still play the older CS titles but that means nothing; Plenty of games that don't get updated are still played. "It’s like people setting up servers for their friends or having a white-list." Playing a private server is done over the *internet* Einstein, same with peer2peer. The only difference is what is hosting that game session: Official servers are hosted/payed for by the developer/publisher. Private server means you're paying a company to host it for you. Peer2Peer means your own PC is hosting it. The only way you're playing on different systems without going over the *INTERNET* is by using a *LAN.* "Or you can go the government route and have your id connected to the game servers but that is a huge can of worms" What are you smoking? The government doesn't own steam and your "ID" (presuming you mean IP, it's well established you have no clue what you're talking about) isn't a giant secret. Every time you connect to something over the internet they're going to know your IP. I recommend you stop doing drugs and schizo posting, unless having your shoe sized IQ known to all is your goal... Then keep it up king.

[@tvflight7858]

I think there should be some regulation on a higher base (like by the US gov or EU not just individual platforms) that prohibits anyone from claiming copyright over any form of art made with the use of AI period. You can't claim it's yours, because it's not, no one can monetize it and subsequently it stops being promoted. That's the only way I can think of how to prevent this from going down the path of Cyperpunk or at the very least slow it down substantially.

[@bunnybootsink9258]

Oh boy, this is going to really mess up the copyright problems we have already because people running those bots will have them cross that line.

[@TheRealQuenny]

"content pollution" is now one of my fav terms now.

[@Hjf4shuvutd5]

KZbin and friends will eventually come out with a paid tier where they "identify and/or block AI content," but it will probably just funnel you to training algorithms to make more believable AI content.

[@Moonswirly]

man, what the hell? i was never subbed to bluedrake, but i was on his side when his game's assets were lifted without permission by Venatur. lived long enough to see himself become the villain i guess, can't believe he doesn't see the irony

[@icantbelieveit]

All these people only really care about money. There are so many youtubers that do the exact same thing they hate against (e.g. Ethan Klein from h3h3). In the end all they care about is the millions they have in their account.

[@Justin_0241]

So BlueDrake is now going a baddie.....? Good thing Forgotten Weapons and C&Rsenal are still around to get my gun facts fixed both channels are on Playeur too ( Formerly Utreon )

[@LRK-GT]

A toolmaker or gunsmith is not responsible for what is done with their creations. Can they act 'irresponsibly'? Of course. But IMHO, Bluedrake is genuinely interested and 'enthused' with this AI revolution. Basically, if he doesn't build the tools, someone else will; misuse+abuse is inevitable. Historically, such broad misuse of new technologies is best-addressed by 'democratization' (broad use and distribution). Regardless, I can see benevolent usages of his toolset, and of AI/MI at large...

[@TheTwinkelminkelson]

​@@LRK-GT I don't believe for a second that if he was an AI enthusiast that made his own tool, he wouldn't immediately see the direct repercussions of such a thing. The notion that he does it because "if he doesn't, someone else will" doesn't absolve him of the fact that he did, in fact, do it.

[@jcozyyt]

Not being able to tell real from fake across the entire Internet will either drive people completely away from engaging in the Internet for interpersonal connection, or it will drive people to smaller niches of creators that are doing "handmade" work

[@mega_lvl]

Being a youtuber is over, all creative endeavours will follow shortly. Human art is dead. Congratulations people, you finally did it.

[@amicaaranearum]

AI voiceovers of AI-written scripts over stock footage is already flooding KZbin. I’m seeing a lot of this in the general feed, which is why I primarily focus on my subscription feed.

[@kotenoklelu3471]

It's weird I don't see it. I saw several videos and just didn't watch them at all. Mostly my feed consist of people in studios talking about politics and war. Sometimes not popular channel shows up talking about same stuff. But it's rare. I guess politics are much more curated by KZbin. They can just allow anyone produce AI generated videos about politics with AI generated text. It will be chaos. AI chatbots start nuclear war most of the time when asked. It's crazy

[@XenoKnightAlpha]

I've already witnessed complete AI overtake in certain areas of KZbin in others' content feeds. A lot of it is slop. I've avoided it myself by tailoring my feed with the ⋮ vertical ellipsis.

[@Anton4353f]

Thanks youtube!! 😁😁 I am so glad you guys removed the downvote button, people will be so glad watching all this wounderful AI content. You guys deserve all the great things that will come down the road. ❤ Edit: Hmm, interesting, this comment used to have around a 100 likes, maybe more. Now it's 6, wonder why 🤔

[@DrownedLamp]

"If u want to support real human content." Oow, but that's gonna get really common soon. So glad I came back to this channel. Not sure if I was overwhelmed with doomer gaming stuff, maybe lumped it in with others. I really need to clean up my subscription page. I've already seen a few noticable AI videos in the rec feed.

[@fracturedraptor7846]

The problem with A.I generated slop is I know who I want to watch and I watch them. Very rarely do I stray from that. Usually it's to look something up, how to do something for the most part. They can't trick me into watching it. I also run Ad Block so they won't get a dime off of me, and videos that KZbin somehow has bypassed it on I immediately close and watch elsewhere without the ads. Because like I said before KZbin, there's multiple ways to watch your videos without dealing with ads. All of which do no contribute to your metrics or the creators who made them. Keep fucking around. Anyway. While this won't be a problem for me it's pretty scummy for users who aren't in that habit. KZbin's issues of moderation and content monitoring is about to jump quite a number of levels in difficulty. In fact they won't be able to keep up because A.I, if tuned right, can create things in a fraction of the time real people can. It's going to wind up being a nightmare for the consumer and the company. It's a pandora's box that should have been left alone.

[@someguy4405]

I'm pretty much the same but youtube is still noticeably shittier than it was when i started using it years ago.

[@kotenoklelu3471]

​@@someguy4405yes, it's much worser. KZbin became sterile when it started to ban conspiracy theories. One step further and it banned actual science because you see there is this theory that only lonely voices tell the truth. It's not entirely true. But it reflects certain truth about humanity. You don't need to know anything to go with the crowd, but you surely need to be sure to go against the crowd. It's not always the case in reality. But geniuses that we remember always were going against the mainstream ideas of the time. Like earth rotates around the sun. Guy as soon as I remember got burned for his beliefs. Only Russian psychologist that was mentioned in the list of greatest psychologists of 20th century died in gulag after he was infected with tuberculosis. He wanted to create science about kids and they called this science pedology. Of course he got into trouble with such name. Geniuses are always weird and got into trouble with general public because they don't adhere to what general public is. I read comments about Russian mathematical genius. He was relentlessly scolded because he doesn't look fashionably, he refused money, international award in science. But he is real genius. Crowd always is against geniuses. And when KZbin went down the rabbit hole of what general public wants, they killed it. They silenced truth

[@cassiusbright1062]

Speaking of KZbin being bad, as part of the video preview when you hover over thumbnails now, if there's a paid promotion, they'll pop up a banner that covers a third of the thumbnail that will take you to a page that is not the video you're trying to click on if you happen to click on it. Just another one of those little things that continues to make the site more and more awful to use.

[@joshuaclark9545]

Already saw videos with "No AI voices" on thumbnails

[@TT-fy6hk]

I noticed it with anything space related topics and anything from reddit stories, all AI reads, some bad some better but it's flooding the feed.

[@terrab1ter4]

The only remedy I can think off is to cut down any subscriptions to only channels you trust to have the integrity to make their own content and not use AI. You are one of these channels and I will happily continue to watch your videos, so please keep doing what you are doing, it is important

[@jacobtoth3120]

Attempting to control power… not a wise move. Power is like love, the more you try to possess it, the more negative the consequences.

[@GaiatheSage]

wise words. 👍

[@climhazzard115]

There needs to be AI content filters for viewers.

[@LetsReinharder]

You can already see this happen if you watch just one of those AskReddit AI-voiced channels. Suddenly, that's all your feed is until you have manually blocked each individual channel.

[@koza9857]

the youtube main page is so bad that I'm starting to think the subscribed page is the only way to see videos you want

[@tonyblitz1]

Oh hey. I think I recommended this topic a while ago! I stumbled across what seemed to be an entirely AI generated car history "top ten" channel. Which had a AI replying to the comments section. And linked to an AI generated/operated twitter, or "X", account, which was likely botted for exposure. Everything from top to bottom seemed to be AI operated and it put a primal disgust in me that's hard to express.

[@steadydriftin3765]

We should at a minimum get the opportunity to opt out of ai generated content from our feed. This as a whole will probably nuke advertising $ on the platform once something ai generated that's controversial comes out

[@111111scarface111111]

This "Real Human" scenario will be the new "Organic food" era that we all witness some years ago, when buying "Organic" became a premium option and not the norm anymore!!!

[@HavianEla]

@@bigsyrup8567I can see them doing that to foot the bill of their overloaded servers due to the sheer amount of completely unnecessary content that won’t even garner many views.

[@Dramn_]

What is the correlation?

[@kevinmalone7167]

Hold on, he didn't say "Question everything" at the end! AI confirmed!😲

[@washynator]

I see what you're saying, but think of it this way. It's human confirmed, because "to err is human" ;)

[@DulcetNuance]

Real people gonna have to grab their shitty COD lobby mic to prove they aren't AI in the future. Then the AI will learn and start sounding like shitty COD lobby voice and the cycle will continue. The real people will then use computerized voices to prove they are real because the AI got so good at sounding real that you know a real person intentionally changed it. BUT then the AI will learn that trick too. The next distinguishing gimmick will need to arise, until eventually you will never be able to know who is real, unless you meet your favorite youtuber in real life and watch them edit videos for you in person.

[@LRK-GT]

@@washynator I'm terrified that 'trained' AI will just replicate the errors. AI is better at 'noticing' the patterns that cause/lead/precede typos, errors, etc.

[@uhhno841]

youtube is SO focused on trying to stop adblock and yet they refuse to let people moderate their own channels or ads, wonder where the issue lies

[@Evanz111]

I’m dreading this flood of brainless AI content, because recently my feed has been nonstop videos from hard working smaller creators with 100-50,000 subs on very niche topics, that admittedly the algorithm knows eerily too well that I’ll like. Considering what happened to Google once companies caught onto SEO manipulation: I dread to think what KZbin will look like a few years from now with AI getting more advanced :/

[@MartyrPandaGaming]

I'm a fan of HFY (humans, fuck yeah) stories, but the "AI" tools have caused a torrent of robotic assholes reading them in those uncanny valley voices that they are largely limited to. It's not just HFY, but a lot of fantasy/scifi story channels. When I do a search for "hfy" on KZbin, you will see a couple of _real_ narrators, but they are being pushed out by the robot assholes more and more. With these tools becoming more accessible and refined, it's going to be harder to filter them out and watch/listen to real people. Unfortunately, we're unlikely to get KZbin (or any platform) banning the production and uploading of this dribble. We're only starting to see the surface of the iceberg on this coming hellscape.