Upright Backswing vs Flat Backswing in Golf (WHICH IS BETTER!?)

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[@christopherspringer7809]

After playing several tournaments this year, I noticed my ball striking was deteriorating and I couldn't figure out why. Turns out I started getting steeper and steeper as the season has progressed and I believe the poor striking and compression can be attributed to a more upright backswing. I started messing with exaggerating the flat swing feel and immediately I had great compression and gained back 12-15 yards of distance I had lost. I guess what I accidentally discovered is an upright backswing may contribute to a glancing blow or what some people call wiping across the ball. I think this video is spot on though with the statement regarding larger-chested people struggling to shallow the club. I'm a 6'4", 265 pound male that does a lot of gym work and a shallow/flatter swing definitely gives me much better ball striking and the ability to rotate much more. Thanks for the inciteful video.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Christopher

[@Jambo1999]

I appreciate the comparisons here, not the "do this, not that" so many others do. I've gotten into "over the top" habits, so I will watch for that. To me, its easier to swing short clubs and hybrids from upright, and long clubs/driver, flatter.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks for the comment, best, Adam

[@huddwah]

I find the opposite easier, interesting

[@Ryglado]

Thank you, Adam - always some of the very best content out there.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much! Best, Adam

[@randywolf4731]

A fantastic video used to explain the different swing types. I am more upright with a 3/4 turn swing due to a lower back issues. Thanks for posting.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much Randy. Best, Adam

[@timothydaniels504]

I hope to have a lesson or two with Adam this winter. I had a lesson with him two years ago and he completely changed my understanding of what my hands should be doing ( and not doing!) at impact. I can actually hit fairways woods off the deck thanks to this gentleman.Happy Thanksgiving.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks for the comment Timothy, and hopefully we can get together this winter. All the best, Adam

[@nqabayembubentombela6296]

Thank you so much I've never thought about this before today

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Glad you found it helpful Aqaba. Best, Adam

[@aussiegolfer2919]

Great video Adam good to see you back 👍🏌️‍♀️⛳️

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much. All the best, Adam

[@coloz4565]

Thanks Adam. Good, clear information about the difference between the two. I’m working on this now to see if I can find a comfort zone which will enable my old body to keep out on the course. Keep up the good work

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks, and glad you liked the video. Best, Adam

[@mariocastillo813]

Great video Adam. Always have great content.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much Mario. Best, Adam

[@tatedagoat]

Thank you for this video. This explains so much on the difference in the swing styles. I’m 6,2 240 former athlete, who just picked up golf a year ago. So I’m trying learn as much as I can.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Glad you found the video helpful

[@rickj1969]

simple and practical instruction x

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Richard. All the best, Adam

[@bobstjern]

Oondrew & you seem to have your trail elbow closer & nicely in control, something that’s helped me greatly recently, thanks guys😎

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Bob. Best, Adam

[@xiphos2412]

Good to see you back with a new video, Adam! As always, very insightful. Stay safe and happy thanksgiving, sir #hitemstraight

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much. All the best, Adam

[@carlosjimenez1988]

Great video. Time to experiment on my back swing.👍👍👍👍

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Carlos, and best of luck. Adam

[@Jettendsley]

Awesome video Adam 👏 helped me switch to a flat swing

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks, glad you found it helpful. best, Adam

[@rayjones1455]

Thanks so much for this video! In the hundreds of golf videos I have watched, this is the first video to address the fact that someone who is tall and has long arms should approach their swing differently than someone who is wider/shorter and has shorter arms. I am 6'1" with long arms, so sometimes when I watch videos of someone swinging who is 5'7" with short arms, it just looks like something that doesn't fit my body type (especially watching someone who is 5'7" hit a driver with ease). Your simple explanation of how the upright backswing is a natural fit for the taller golfer with longer arms just makes perfect sense. Thinking about it, my flatter backswing probably helps explain why I struggle to return the clubface square when hitting my driver. With an upright backswing, if I square the clubface at the top of the backswing, this should help my body to naturally return it square to the ball at impact. Instead, my flatter backswing leads me to "trap" my right arm and struggle to fully turn and return the clubface in a square position.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Ray, glad you found the video helpful. All the best, Adam

[@frankhernandez6883]

good clear instructions---thanks

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Frank. Best, Adam

[@wayneyoung146]

This is something I will watch soon

[@philtrotter8277]

Always the best Adam

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Very kind of you Phil. Thanks, Adam

[@davidd1395]

Good info sir, thank you.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

thanks David. Best, Adam

[@wimvanacker714]

Very good instruction!

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much Wim. All the best, Adam

[@bazkeen]

Nice one Adam👍🏻👍🏻For years I was over the top. Have that sorted now. Definitely sticking with the flatter swing. Never want to come over the top again😁😁

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Basil. All the best, Adam

[@davidanderson7093]

This is a great insight into the 2 swing types, Adam, thanks for sharing. I’ve been having some real issues with slices and hooks (low point too far behind also) recently and so I videoed myself only to find that my lead arm is wrapping around my body and my arm is actually slightly under shoulder plane at the top from DTL! Could this be my issue? All the best from bonnie Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 by the way...

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks David, and I hope it's a mild winter in Scotland. Best, Adam

[@MattMJF]

Another insightful golf tip video Adam! It is remarkable how customizable golf needs to be for each individual player. What are your thoughts on the Bryson DeChambeau - Moe Norman single plane golf swing?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Matt. Both Bryson and Mo (who I was lucky enough to see hit balls on a few occasions) start with hands very high, which makes 'one plane' easier to achieve. Great ball strikers, but I like the more traditional look. All the best, Adam

[@thejayvodlexperience7856]

Love it. The flat plane works best for me per your definition. When I go upright, it gets way over the top but when I go flat, everything is good again!

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Glad you found it helpful Jay Best, Adam

[@flarpymcknicklenutz700]

Same here... I'll slice with upright.. shallow = straight

[@chlee6590]

Awesome video! How should I practice to make my swing from flat to upright? Keep recording my video but it didnt go upright as I expected...

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Swings are less apt to change than we think. I'd get in front of a mirror to map out a feel Best, Adam

[@moreme40]

Love the videos of Nicklaus and Watson upright swings

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks, it's always nice to see those two in action. Best, Adam

[@petermusselman2762]

Thanks

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Yore welcome Peter Best, Adam

[@ufukgoksu9851]

Great video as always. My swing is not so much upright but definitely also not flat. I take the club just straight back while I turn my shoulders. (so maybe up and down motion) Do you think that my hips did not turn at impact with slight extension because I have more steep swing? If so, what is it that I need to do? Thank you so much

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Ufuk. Honestly, it’s hard to comment without seeing your swing. If you decide to join www.scratchgolfacademy.com you can send swings in. All the best, Adam

[@macmagruder8922]

I really enjoyed this video as i struggle with my swing plane. What type of software do you use to analyze swings ?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Mac. I use the V1 system Best, Adam

[@dnguyen787]

I am a senior, I see Flat one is better for me. Good video! :-)

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Bien Best, Adam

[@jasoncarr8534]

Adam, I’m sorry but I believe bigger barrel chest folks need to get upright. Just as myself, thick chest wide shoulders, I need my arms up to get length in my swing and drop it down to the slot just fine. A flat swing is WAY too restrictive. Thinner, smaller narrow shoulders can swing flat much much easier. So I believe the opposite is absolutely necessary for the body types.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Jason, It’s fine if that works for you, most people aren’t able to drop it back in without excessive tilt away from the target. All the best, Adam

[@nickhines1131]

I'm 59, 5'4" , and my body weight has changed 3 times since age 5, in junior golf I was 125 pounds, hit a fade and won many trophies, then in the 90's, I was 215pounds, clubs got too long,and struggled with hooks, still managed a 4 handicap being a poor putter, now I'm 145 pounds, and now can swing more upright, went to midsize grips, shorter length clubs, but must learn to hit a fade again. Also to swing out to in, this will bring back the fade I prefer. But ball position may have to change as well, playing many years with the ball back in your stance produces low draws, great for wind,and hard pan you get in the Houston area, but with all that knowledge, I will be back to the drawing board to execute this, to do this I'll have to hit 500 balls a day until I get back where I belong.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Hope you make progress Nick

[@rwldebruijn1979]

Dear Adam, I've been struggling with an over the top swing for years, quite often resulting in slices and my clubhead burying itself into the ground. But this season, my first time back at the driving range, I had the simple idea to open up the club face at address and keep this feel through the back swing. It was a total breakthrough, because my swing arc totally flattens out this way. Have you ever tried this with a student and do you think this could be a good way to flatten someone's swing? Thanks so much. Ron

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Ron, Glad you made progress. I agree that face (forearm) rotation generally flattens the overall plane. All the best, Adam

[@rwldebruijn1979]

@@Scratchgolfacademy Thanks a lot Adam! For this response and all the great video's you've been releasing.

[@13leib]

Really excellent, Adam, congratulations! Question: for the flat backswingers, what should be the average shoulder tilt approximately? Your arms had about 44 degrees and your shoulder approximately 35 degrees. Is this a good measure?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Bernhard. I don't really think of it in those terms (the numbers would change according to the height of the player, and their posture), rather if you have good posture your shoulders would turn perpendicular to your spine, and your left arm would be across your shoulder plane, or a little underneath it. I hope this helps. All the best, Adam

[@13leib]

@@Scratchgolfacademy Thank you very much, Adam, this helps! All the best for many more excellent videos!

[@GSU-ki3np]

Being a tall golfer I found your video spot on. I have tried to swing upright which gives more power. But it causes me problems with an over the top move. I found that all your videos on compressing the ball and keeping the hands low and close to the body works much better even for us tall guys. Thanks, Adam.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks, and glad you are making progress. All the best, Adam

[@patc1309]

I'm 6 ft 4 and have tried a flat swing...and I have the exact opposite problem...when I go flat I come over the top and hit dead pulls. The more I go upright I swing down the line better and don't go over the top

[@jimmypeach8838]

What are the advantages of each tho as far as ball flight and spinning ball and hitting different shots.... is it easier to hit certain shots coming from different positions?? vs body type fitting a swing. For better players do you want to mix it up perhaps for whats needed??

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Jimmy, Thanks for the question. What counts is what you do at impact. The pro's I cited all return to fairly similar impact conditions. I hope this helps. Best, Adam

[@Jambo1999]

You have good filming equipment, wireless mic and a good camera.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks. Best, Adam

[@eswag153]

If you lift weights a ton and have 46” shoulders at 5’ 9”, would flatter swing still be better? Asking because I currently have that and it’s been working for me well as long as I sit into that back hip. Someone criticized it the other day but my numbers are at around your average.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Eddie, I’d go with the flat (wider & shorter) swing

[@kexith]

I used to be flatter but i think it was causing me to throw the club, a coach had me go steeper and it really does help, though i often fall back to my flat style if I'm not mindful

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Fair enough Keith, glad it's working. Best, Adam

[@aurica_interesting6679]

I am the same. Towards the end of a round if I am not careful I start to take the club inside a bit which leads to all sorts of problems

[@2driverpls652]

Very timely. I am 6-7, long, lanky but pretty strong. Played college basketball. I have been fighting a fade and/or a push recently. Went to the range, got a large bucket, and tried different set ups and swing angles. Near upright was spot on. I lost a small bit of distance but the accuracy was repeatable and I hit a draw. To swing flat I need to put the ball further away … but I come over the top because I reach for the ball by casting. If I crowd the ball I have to go vertical, and because there is no extra space, I have to go in to out. Crazy game.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Glad you made progress

[@dle632]

Thanks so much as a powerlifter taking up golf, I can't get my hands high in the backswing. Until seeing this I thought I had to just figure a way to get them up there.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Glad you found the video helpful David. All the best, Adam

[@decap6000]

Same here...my backswing is shallow and I hit it more consistently

[@davids6415]

Hi, On the backswing is it okay to straighten your right leg and what happens if you tilt too much on the backswing? Thank you

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

David, Some straightening of the right leg is fine. As viewed straight on tilting the spine in the backswing is not recommended

[@oldprogolf7292]

Adam, I suggest you rotate your left arm clockwise a touch more on the ds, draw would suit you better. Also divot looks a bit deep in the toe. Nice rhythm.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks for watching the video. Best, Adam

[@afriendtoleanon3401]

im 5 ft 6 but 52 inch chest . now i was constantly slicing with my driver because i was over the top . i worked on coming more around and also mover my back foot away from target line to make more room to come from the inside . it worked however with irons everything was a hard hook even with my foot back up on target line . i moved my swing path for irons and hybrids more steep and it straightened out my shots . then i tried to hit the 3 wood off the deck and i was having trouble coming in to steep . i changed my path to the same as driver widened my stance the same as driver placed the ball 1 ball a head of center and gave it some fwd shaft lean . im making great contact still having trouble with driver and wood accuracy though . mostly make good contact . i was wondering what you thought . of having two planes one for driver and 3 wood and one for the rest ?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

That's a bit complex, but if it';s working for you.... My preference would be similar backswing for all (likely shorter & flatter) with modified through swing. Best, Adam

[@Mscott1529]

Is the example swing you gave of yourself a pull? I’m not trying to throw darts, I love your content. I just want to clarify 🙏🏽

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Not that I intended, or recall

[@wilsonhung8654]

Very insightful. "The swing plane" always confuses many. Now we know the real differences. Please also do some videos about positions at the top (online, laid off, across the line) and their pros and cons. Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving!

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Wilson, I'll try to get to that. All the best, Adam

[@jeffreylondongolf3448]

Damn, that was sound advice!

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Glad you found it helpful Jeff. Best, Adam

[@jamesdixon4770]

Adam, I notice that you keep your left heel planted through out the swing. Any suggestions for an older person who needs to lift his heel to free up his turn?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

James, No problem if it lifts a bit, just as long as it's in response to your pivot, and happens later in the backswing. All the best, Adam

[@louisolivierfortin]

Such an important topic! I feel you only scratched the surface on all the implications it has. It would be super nice to have a more in depth video on the matter, thanks!

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks, 'll try to get to that. All the best, Adam

[@Trailjunkie62]

Hey Adam sorry for going off subject but couldn’t help but notice with Matt and Fred side by side watching the top of their heads against the tree line. Both lower as they approach the top of their swings…appears to be 1 to 3 inches…maybe a video on this subject? Thanks!

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks, I’ll try to get to that

[@ProfessorSteez]

Hi Adam, how much of the upright vs flat backswing is truly semantics? Obviously you can be too flat and too steep, but without an accepted definition of each is it a generally wasteful discussion? I think it would be worth defining what too flat and too steep are before golfers (like myself) try to convince themselves that their too flat or upright isn’t problematic. I personally believe I’m too flat which helps my arms get behind me to crossplane without breaking down my lead arm or leg, but can’t really find a way to say whether that’s true or false.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

JB, There are certainly flat and upright backswings. While definitions may vary, generally leading arm across shoulder plane is about neutral, below that flat, above it upright Best, Adam

[@DG-hu9dz]

I am tall and thin but with a flat swing, really similar to Kutchar. Really struggle with length on driver but works well with irons. Should I be trying to get my hands higher given my body type?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

DG, Typically I'd say yes, but you're hitting your irons well. Hard to say without seeing you swing. All the best, Adam

[@DG-hu9dz]

I could email you my driver swing, lol if you do that. Not sure if y’all do that ?

[@MrZocor]

Upright without any question.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

👍

[@Ill_trigger_you_lol]

I wonder if this is my issue. I'm an ex-powerlifter and bodybuilder and have a really thick chest. My swing does tend to be flatter instead of upright as it is more comfortable. I can hit my drivers/woods/hybrid decent but I cannot hit my irons worth crap and sometimes I wonder if it's because hitting downwards at the ball is such a foreign and uncomfortable thing to me.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

It could be that you are a bit steep coming down, then raise up or hang back in order to shallow it. This often gets too snoopy for irons. Just a guess. Best, Adam

[@nTo-vlog]

Hi Adam, I've been seeing you in the advertisements to the extent I got a bit annoyed. I did not realize you actually provide free videos in youtube with such great contents. Now, I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for the wonderful lessons you provide in your channel.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks, and glad you like the videos. All the best, Adam

[@nTo-vlog]

@@Scratchgolfacademy finally I also purchased your drop 5 strokes lesson.. :)

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much. Best, Adam

[@ironsideeve2955]

All depends on forearm/upper arm ratio

[@ericbunfill1278]

Adam, I draw the ball naturally. Any tips for hitting a controlled fade? Fading the ball goes against my natural tendency.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Eric, I have a video at this channel on hitting a fade, I hope you'll find it helpful. Best, Adam

[@ericbunfill1278]

@@Scratchgolfacademy great tips. I really like the visual/thought of getting the heal of the club slightly ahead of the toe. Any difference in tee heighth?

[@midlifebiker7424]

Im a flat to medium but have been trying to be more upright. At 53 I think I just have to accept my style although strength and flexibility I can improve on. Im also right handed but play lefty..

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

As long as it’s working for you, then stick with it. All the best, Adam

[@derekwhyle1884]

Adam, this was a great explanation. I think for people taking up the game later in life, after playing other sports, then inbuilt habits tend to dominate. I’m British and grew up playing cricket and what you guys call field hockey, neither of which make an upright swing feel instinctive.

[@welshjim5512]

😊

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

👍

[@sheilareeber5807]

Body type - short , thin, and female: which back swing most effective?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Sheila, My guess is more on the upright side. All the best, Adam

[@wayneyoung146]

I have a slight fade to the right not all the time Close the face and straight Could be slightly open

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

It’s pretty certain that if ball is fading the club face is open

[@msherer260]

How about two of the best to ever play the game Inbee Park and Jack Nicklaus both thick body's, both very up right swings....

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Mark, There are many many combos, exceptions of you will (John Daly, big guy with super long across line backswing), these videos deal more in general applications All the best, Adam

[@thechado7868]

Great Tip, and thanks for giving poor people that use very old equipment and can't offered any training sections a chance at getting better. It truly means alot to me, So thank you

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks very much Chad. All the best, Adam

[@JH-zn9tc]

Between flat and medium with a shorter backswing for me...seems easier ro shallow the club with a shorter backswing

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Fair enough JH, seems like you’ve found something that works for you. All the best, Adam

[@rightuppercut1426]

Doesn’t an upright backswing hinder you in creating a shallow downswing?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

It does require more of a shallowing in the downswing. Many people find this difficult, but it is powerful. Best, Adam

[@creamabdul-jabbar6722]

The flatter you swing the more right to left the ball will go and the more upright the more left to right. It’s why majority of people slice and hook the ball

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Not necessarily, it depends what you do in the downswing (Watson upright hit draw, Hogan flat hit fade) Thanks just the same

[@howardphillips8513]

I wonder if having long or short limbs also affects your swing shape. I think most top golfers have longer than average arms. Can people with short arms and little flexibility also have a great golf swing? I know my swing is far too flat.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

I’d say shorter arm length would generally lead to a flatter look, but especially a wider shorter arm swing (as viewed face on). Longer limbed usually more arm swing and a little more upright. Neither excludes swinging well. Best, Adam

[@howardphillips8513]

Thank you, Adam. That is encouraging .@@Scratchgolfacademy

[@stumarston6812]

LOL I was waiting for you to say Craig Stadler.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

👍

[@dscwac396]

I've always found that the more upright your backswing is without opening the face and holding the club and all that you probably can hit it farther than a flat backswing. A flatter backswing requires really good rotation and fast hips,a more upright swing will help with someone who can't rotate as fast

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks for the comment

[@rjswish]

Isn’t Kuchar lean and long?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Yes he is. Body styling is not definitive, just a general guideline Best, Adam

[@maryannepippa2807]

Play slots

[@jeffeffinggluck]

flat - draw: upright - fade

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Generally true. Thanks Jeff. Best, Adam

[@MichiganMan923]

In my mind I want to be more flat because I have a natural over the top swing and I've tried to remedy that by trying to be more flat, however my body just doesn't want to cooperate with that. So I've let the more upright/neutral happen and I'm just working on transition to drop it more in the slot.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Sounds good, I hope you can find the right slot for your game. All the best, Adam

[@maryannepippa2807]

Casino slots play

[@kingshearer2]

So when they say 2 plane golf swing that's upright? And a flat swing is one plane since the arms are consistent with the spine angle ? I think everyone should learn the flat swing to start off with since it's easier to co-ordinate. Did Faldo not swap from flat to upright under leadbetter all those years ago?

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks. Yes, Faldo went from pretty upright to neutral/flat. All the best, Adam

[@harold4506]

He certainly knows his apples.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Thanks Harold

[@cameronloveless1751]

Best “flat” swing of all time would definitely be the great Ben Hogan

[@lawrencebogar6136]

Best upright swing of all time Jack Nicholas

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Hard to beat Hogan's swing! Best, Adam

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

I'll agree with you there. Thanks, Adam

[@andrefecteau]

Kuchar...

[@brianmoore6277]

Greg Norman wasn’t too bad either

[@andrefecteau]

ok you are wrong...the hands on Matt are below his shoulder at the top, Freddy above...really you should be right on it to be "square" BTW only way to scratch is by putting, not hitting

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

I agree, Matt is flat, Fred is upright. You don't know much about statistics to make the comment on hitting vs putting. best, Adam

[@wallstreetoneil]

I would argue from a teaching perspective, that for the 85% of golfers out there, who are slicers, they should absolutely practice the Matt Wolff Upright to Dropping Looping type backswing, and NOT the Matt Kuchar Flat swing, because almost all of them already do the Reverse Matt Wolff swing, starting where Matt Kuchar starts, and then go out over the top. I've always been amazed at Kuchar's swing as I have no idea how he comfortably gets his hands into that position - my body doesn't work that way.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

Fair enough Paul, and thanks for watching the video. Best, Adam

[@martinallen6521]

I disagree sir. The upright backswing like Mathew wolf is great for slicers , it’s nearly impossible to come over the top if your backswing swing is high and outside. It naturally forces the club to come to the inside on the through swing , similar to Jim Furyk.

[@Scratchgolfacademy]

We’ll just have to disagree then Martin. I have taught golf full time for over 30 years, so I’ve seen a lot of swings and how people generally react. No worries Best, Adam