Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Lower Decks 2.7 - Where Pleasant Fountains Lie

[@sjinzaar]

Been waiting for this the whole day…. “Did his kingdom come?” Best line ever!

[@Heymrk]

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SEX!

[@whammo11224]

I was hoping to be the first to comment on that!

[@TheSheebeen]

Billups is the Asexual icon I didn't know I needed. Props to him for remaining true to himself. And I LOVED how Rutherford's "death" was handled. You don't see Dr T'Ana being particularly kind but her little moment with Tendi was definitely worth an up from me.

[@EvanSolomonBerger]

Tendi is actually asexual

[@TheSheebeen]

​@@EvanSolomonBerger When was that confirmed? That's awesome news

[@mini2239]

That seems unlikely, she had Rutherford have a lot of shipping fuel, that I’d be surprised if that wasn’t the direction they’re going in

[@andromidius]

"But I love my comfort zone! Its so comfortable!"

[@Oddlogical]

If they have Jeffrey Combs play a Kzinti, I think the upvote would explode! 😄

[@Christophsys]

"My royal guards are trained from birth to skip foreplay!" I almost choked on my coffee Hahahahaha

[@zincwing4475]

A funny joke, but tbh I wished the word choice was done a bit different. "from day one" or "every day" would be better I think.

Considering how it turned out maybe that was a mistake.

[@cowsagainstcapitalism347]

Forcing a grieving asexual man into a a three way. Super cool laws, Hysperians.

[@qwmx]

"Trained from birth to skip foreplay". I legit wonder if those guards are sexually abused children.

[@seanwolslau-holdren6731]

​@@cowsagainstcapitalism347actually, I must disagree with you on that. It may sound funny at first, but when you think about it, it's actually a form of coercion. If Andy Billups was to lose his virginity, that should be his choice and nobody else's. Not to mention, Queen Paolana tricked her son multiple times and faked her own death to guilt trip him. I don't know about you, but that's a heinous act of neglect as a parent, and a hideous act of betrayal as a Queen. And dare I say, should the roles be reversed and it was a woman being forced, everyone would be up in arms. I mean, do people not see the double standard here?! My point is, Queen Paolana had no right to force her son to do something without his consent, and I understand why he left Hysperia. People should be allowed to choose for themselves.

[@Blue_Cooper]

I met Jeffrey Combs on a Star Trek Cruise. Very humble man and enjoyed speaking to people. Always glad to see him on the show.

[@leemcclennan1118]

Hold up!......there is a star trek cruise??? Unlimited food, ale and trek!?.....where do I book this?

[@brentmakes]

Billip's mom had major Lwaxana Troi vibes! I really hope she was meant to be a tribute to Majel Barrett-Roddenberry!!!

[@tetravega567]

Another overbearing aristocrat mother.

[@mr51406]

I see her also as being inspired by Bette Midler.

[@MisterSpiffy]

The whole Hysperion race is a giant trope on the fact that people go to renfair's dressed in Starfleet uniforms all the time. This is just taking that trope and turning it on its head a little bit.

[@davidlandrum]

They do?! 🤣🤣🤣

[@alanconn6235]

@@davidlandrum There was a Big Bang Theory episode in which Sheldon went to a Renaissance Faire in a Star Trek uniform. People have been doing it since then.

[@davidpayne4310]

It could also be a call out to Christopher Stasheff's "Warlock of Gramayre" series, which takes place on a world that was founded by members of the SCA fleeing Earth.

[@chrisc1140]

@@davidlandrum I've done it myself. I also saw a tumblr post about someone that kept a commbadge inside their rennaisance vest and would pull StarFleet people aside and berate them for "ruining his work studying this pre-warp civilization"

[@BasementBerean]

AGIMUS with the letters rearranged is SMUG AI. "Agimus" can also mean "I lead" in Latin.

[@shanerasmussen5225]

Considering Jey'lah got her name because her character was described as "J-Law (Jennifer Lawrence) in The Lovely Bones" I wouldn't put too much money on "Smug AI" not being the source of Agimus.

[@BasementBerean]

@@shanerasmussen5225 You wouldn't bet on it not. So, you would bet on that? You're saying I was right, or maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet today to interpret double negatives.

[@shanerasmussen5225]

@@BasementBerean Lol, sorry, yeah I would totally bet on that being how Agimus came to be.

[@michaelpapp5518]

I liked the Titan bickering. It’s tough for friends to accept others have grown sometimes. This episode was about showing Mariner Boimler has actually learned. He’s not exactly the same newb he was in the first season. Mariner needed to see that.

[@alanfischer1948]

In the beginning I didn't think I would like LD, but it has become so much fun to watch, especially when it pokes fun at itself and at the franchise. And they could never get away with this stuff in a live action series.

[@jameskeating895]

Something else worth mentioning is that Billups is voiced by Paul Scheer, and Billups' mother was voiced by June Diane Raphael, Scheer's IRL wife. That must have been a hilarious tale reading

[@FedeGCap]

Jeffrey Combs needs a statue like o'brien 😂

[@Sephiroth144]

Counterpoint- he needs a holographic statue, the glitches/switches between all his characters (and rarely to Jeffrey himself).

[@mongke1000]

"his warp core not operating at peak efficiency" I'm rolling on the floor

[@vasyear]

na a better one would be "He’s not exactly working on all thrusters"

[@mongke1000]

How about "his phaser beam went offline"?

[@mrwog82]

His Runabout failed to dock

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

"I've got to have 30 minutes"

[@willroberts3991]

I want a series where Combs plays every character

[@Tarv1]

been saying that for years

[@literatiglee]

Except one, who should be played by Casey Biggs

[@terran6686]

Have Jeffery Combs and Dee Bradley Baker fight each other

[@willroberts3991]

@@literatiglee Or how about Jeffrey Combs playing Casey Biggs playing said character

[@willroberts3991]

@@terran6686 Have Combs as Baker and Baker as Combs fighting themselves. Mind has been blown, you're welcome

[@Vipre-]

The evil computer at the end with the CBS logo cracked me up.

[@Foshiizzell1]

lol same

[@JoshtheJust]

THANK YOU!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed this!

[@star_man]

There isn't a weak episode in this season, it's just wonderful, I never knew I needed a comedy animated Star Trek in my life until this came along. Also you look wonderful in that Discovery t-shirt as well... my warp core is happy.

[@allenbrown9069]

I highly disagree the B plot was garbage the entire episode should've been about AGIMUS

[@brucecolgate]

Great stuff, always well done. At 11:11, is that an "ultimate computer "with the CBS logo on the front (middle row, 3rd from left)?

[@Foshiizzell1]

yessssssssssss i saw that

[@redribbonrox3292]

Oh you saw it too, at first I thought it was PBS lol

[@Sykboogie]

@@redribbonrox3292 Just saw this upon watching this video! Hillarious placement.

[@katherineberger6329]

Yep! Biting the hand that feeds you is a time-honored tradition in comedy. ;)

[@Seal0626]

The reference to Data's head was a double - _Data's_ head was found in a cave, _B4's_ head was buried in a desert. Also are those the Vasquez Rocks in the background at 13:26?

[@tbc76]

oh yeah, nice call out.

[@topogigio7031]

OH SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT B4

[@jameswg13]

The hysperions were also a reference to TOS and the many medieval type costumes used in TOS

[@sigmabat]

Among the many megalomaniac computers at the Daystrom Institute was one with the classic “CBS Eye.”

[@tbc76]

hahahahhaha...nice catch

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

Could've has Disney logo one too and the could argue over who's eviler.

[@timstevenson3591]

Jeffrey Combs has always been a favorite. Even before Star Trek . My personal favorite is Dr Mordrid . Older B movie, but Combs totally sells it. He was Dr Strange before it was a thing

[@GothamClive]

13:14 Me too. I love how you can see in his face how much he looks forward to watching Mark Twain.

[@Ivan_Ooze]

jeffrey combs walks into a bar, and everyone in there is played by jeffrey combs

[@EliSchwab]

So cool Billips voicer Paul Sheers' wife June Diane Raphael played his Mom!!! hahahaah great ep!

[@TSR1776]

Ew lmfao

[@hadorstapa]

Felt to me like there was a distinctly Star Wars-esque music queue when they found that crashed ship too. Reference to exploring a downed Star Destroyer?

[@KEVMAN7987]

Fortunately for Billups, performance anxiety allowed Rutherford to get there in time.

[@savagegardenrox]

If in the season finale Mariner finally has like an emotionally honest moment about how hurt she was about Boimler leaving, the repetitive bickering might be retroactively worthwhile

[@adamgoss3638]

Additionally, if you look close at the final shot with all the evil supercomputers, at least one has the Klingon triskel emblem on it! I wonder what Klingons consider to be evil behavior for a supercomputer?

[@Janoha17]

A very cowardly AI.

[@diakritika]

The computers in the upper right corner has a K.I.T.T./K.A.R.R. feeling to it.

[@realcyphox5919]

sorry, but i have no idea where you see the klingon symbol, you should consider getting glasses

[@nicholassterling8483]

1:55 Deciding whether Sean has any positive feelings about Jeffrey Combs was really hard to figure out. He made his feelings about Combs much too opaque. Nick :-)

[@benwillis5840]

1:28 You haven't heard Shakespeare until you've heard it in the original Klingon.

[@HarryMudd]

I reckognized Jeffreys voice at once 😆 It was like hearing Weyoun again

[@stipe3124]

I did just that but it sounded like Brunt to me! Weyoun is his best character (Shran is close)

[@leocallan3691]

I am liking how you've married the 'Ups&Downs' with the Observation easter-eggs

[@Erblack3]

T'ana giving the news to Tendi was f*cking well done

[@GMLSX]

Anyone remember that the Doctor once rode a horse on a space ship, besides a dinosaur? And by Doctor, I don't mean hologram.

[@taiyoqun]

He also does the "No, don't do that" a lot. Also, is it me or the Doctor (hologram) seems like the kind of person to say "I'm the Doctor, and I just snogged Madame de Pompadour!"

[@williamporter7596]

Loved the episode as well. BTW It looks like they were rescued by a Runabout. Which I guess is another nod to DS9.

[@plainbagel9192]

Seriously good episode, it had this early TNG season weird alien culture vibe to it

[@davidclarke7122]

Cetation Observations, got to say it, "So Long and Thanks for all the Fish!"

[@jeffreycarman2185]

This is one of the best episodes of the series.

[@xandosreign]

Sean if you want to come to Colorado in July next year I'd happily drag you to our Renaissance Faire. They've got a permanent fair grounds here despite only running for about two months a year.

[@dplariosa]

Ah yes, the one in Larkspur. Been there several times. If you guys go invite me please.

[@KingfisherTalkingPictures]

@Brandon, say hi to my sis-in-law selling pewter. Northern Cal is running right now, Sean.

[@katherineberger6329]

The good ones do. The Minnesota Renaissance Festival is moving to a new site in 2022 but it took more than a decade to come to an agreement on that site and make preparations.

[@lucianoduarte891]

Mariner sand surfing down to a big ship showing its engine thrusters felt so much as The Force Awakens

[@thematris24]

We see it too. Jajajjaa

[@BennyT_3434]

Like most episodes this season, the pacing was excellent and yet another character gets a backstory without it feeling forced....plus Jeffrey Combs as the computer was awesome. Lower Decks is running laps around Disco and Picard!

[@barrybend7189]

In Star Trek Online the Hisperian ship's Intel activation ability is literally called ponder the orb.

[@jens_hatje]

There was a nice nod to Vaal from the TOS episode "The Apple" at 4:13.

[@remi_gio]

Love the historical context and background to every little detail Sean is talking about!👍 This is how you do it .. this is how we like it!

[@Knightshade08]

Combs should get a double up for all the roles he's played! I knew Rutherford wasn't dead, still, yeah, I got a bit verklempt over it. Can't argue with you about the down. I have to give props to Boymler because it shows some growth! Too many times in cartoons characters don't grow, very glad to see this! Let me know if you're interested in going to a Renfest and I'll cover ya. (Note it's going to be in the southern U.S.)

[@EphPhaThaINC]

“Billups workout routine.” -CinemaWins

[@Heymrk]

Dude, you totally missed the CBS easter egg being an evil supercomputer.

[@michaeljansen5188]

I'm so glad SOMEONE noticed!

[@NineWorldsFromDrew]

Sean, there's a medieval fayre in Glastonbury, Somerset - i'm sure it'll be returning, easter 2022, and I would be THRILLED to take you along with me! ^-^

[@kayseek1248]

We should have a spin-off series where every character is played by Jeffrey Combs.

[@gingerg85]

Mugato/Gumatus are controlling the Packleds, series is building to it! (That's my prediction in any case.)

[@PaulfromChicago]

"Who's the evil computer now?" Love that.

[@explorinjenkins349]

My bud just spent a couple days at a renaissance festival. He said the mead and turkey legs were great and that some kids regaled him in sing songy tales. Very cool.

[@idontwannaidontwanna7307]

Jeffrey Combs..UP, ALL THE UPS!!

[@Jobe00]

Why was the CBS Eye logo on an Evil super computer not mentioned in the last scene?

[@GregorBarclay]

So the entire How Did This Get Made team have now appeared in canonical Star Trek (Mantzoukas' stuff admittedly hasn't aired yet). A bit weird that Scheer's wife played his character's mom, but fun to see Raphael and Scheer in a scene with one another.

[@thomashill6347]

Hi Sean, I did like this episode very much and gave it a 9/10, I think the Mariner / Biomler scenes were great and the Rutherford / Billups was also very good I liked it

[@urbynwyldcat9131]

Wait...what's that sound? Ah yes, Jeffrey Combs being awesome.

[@scythe0925]

When the editor gives his own coffee mug an up........

[@TrekCulture]

It was for the cat.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@TrekCulture Oh, funnily enough, in the New Frontier novels, there is a super intelligent Mugato called Janos, as I recall... hope it wasn't him (the skeleton)

[@EJRichardsonFubara]

@@TrekCulture For the CAT 🐱?? LMAO😁

[@kmoo5139]

Enjoy this show for what it is. But this episode was the first time I’ve laughed! Jeffrey combs is a legend!

[@tatakirkth6806]

The evil computer at the end with the CBS and Tumblr (kinda) logo. That's hilarious!

[@woofburns]

I'm starting to get the feeling that you aren't actually watching the show because your one down should have been an up. They played the bickering and titan references as a way to show how bradward has changed but Beckett is to stubborn to do the same.

[@WeAreTheBentusi]

These things are subjective, and though a show might be trying to do an interesting thing with a trope it may not always land right with the viewer.

[@starclone4]

Oooooh, You'd love a good Renn Faire, So much fun dressing up as a character sir !!!!

[@CvBrony]

I absolutely want a Shran-led spinoff.

[@kyleknickerbocker8650]

At time stamp 13:25 In the back ground is that the rock formation that Kirk fought the Gorn at?

[@silviadragoness5904]

How did you miss the fact that the ship that rescued Boimler and Mariner was a _Danube_ -class runabout (or some derivative thereof)?

[@AllahDoesNotExist]

Best episode this week

[@midniteoyl8913]

Missed the 'Evil CBS' computer at the end..

[@PrimusFeather]

Very disappointed in cetacean observation this week.. Not one "up the long ladder" reference, nor Bringloidi neither. The scene with the horse and the Women tending to it are clearly a reference to them and more specifically to Roslyn Landors Brenna Odell with her present shirt and hip skirt.

[@MrBerniemcgovern]

Yay great job! Let us all love such fun adventure

[@mr51406]

I TOTALLYwoukd love a Shran spinoff. It would be a way to repair the damage done by cancelling Enterprise and that 😵‍💫 last show. Suggestion: Shran was the Federation’s 2nd president after Archer? Seán: they should hire you to do a Star Trek/Upstart Crow tie-in. 🖖🏼 (Upstart Crow is a hilarious historical comedy about Shakespeare starring the awesome David Mitchell.)

[@txteva]

You should visit Tewkesbury Medieval Festival... not quite an American renaissance fayre but a fun day out!

[@jacobcardona2457]

I hope you guys have a panel at comic con someday

[@saedo9723]

How do you not mention the crashed ship is at the Vasquez Rocks...

[@odesseus]

Love your DISCO shirt. Also, nice vid!

[@literatiglee]

Must stop.watching this video now to watch this show. Yep, stopped at the Did his Kingdom come?

[@andrewstorrar2654]

This was an an awesome episode loved it. The runabout at the end should have got an up last seen in ds9 stafleet workhorse

[@aaronratzan]

If you ever visit the US, I will personally take you to the New York Renaissance Faire.

[@HNEGames]

Missed: Seti Alpha V & CBS Super Computer in Daystrom Institute

[@DavidBeddard]

*ahem* Vasquez Rocks! Too busy admiring the Andorian wreck to notice, eh? 😆

[@1SemperDad]

In the SCA and Renaissance roleplay, modern items have medieval names. Car=Dragons, Phones=Magic mirrors and so on

[@GothamClive]

That Shakespeare dude was dirty.

[@michaelpapp5518]

I wore a Starfleet uniform to the last ren fair and pretended I was on a mission.

[@andymccurdy5029]

I know a few guards who have been trained from birth to avoid forplay

[@CaptainFabulous84]

I'm really surprised you didn't go thru all the iconography on the computers in the final scene. There's the CBS logo, the no/not symbol, and Batman. Might be others in there I don't recognize.

[@nihtgengalastnamegoeshere7526]

2 years late here but oh my stars YES I would watch a Shran spinoff.

[@SmartSmears]

It feels like Lower Decks season 2 wants to single handedly provide all the content for the third most paused Trek moments video

[@gestaltdude]

I'm writing this before watching the episode and have to say, after seeing Sean's reaction to the mating Mugatos (plus one), I am very, very curious to see how he's going to handle what happens towards the end of this episode. :D

[@MrShaunhunter]

Another awesome show!

[@blackwidow8000]

Sean you are looking good! Love Lower Decks!

[@Flarecobra]

So, who loves the Warp Core more? Billips or Boimler?

[@HikariKenzaki]

Yeah. I knew that was going to be the only down in this one. I'm done with it, too. even if it was Boimler fooling Mariner

[@ChristopherG1990]

Didn’t they find B4’s head in the sand…or rather on the sand lol. Would that in itself be an call back to that?

[@kwichris]

The symbols on the computers at the end.... there were a few easter eggs there, like the CBS logo for one :)

[@PassivesAbseits]

Can we just mention, that the Hysperian send a man and a woman into Billups quater... it only matters, that he gets laid, not what his orientation is. I really loved that, because build that in without being preachy...

[@sirhborn]

I have hit the subscribe button 🖖🏽

[@mattmacneil]

Comment interaction bonus engaged

[@herbertkeithmiller]

As Boimler takes charge notice the sleeves on his tunic are now turned up like Mariner's always are.

[@richardgreen1491]

You left out a KEY scene. The AI DID manage to download data onto a PADD in the wrecked shuttlecraft. So we may just see Jeffrey Combs again.

[@seanwolslau-holdren6731]

I know I am going to get a lot of grief when I say this, but when Boimler stunned Mariner, she had it coming. She went behind his back to get him reassigned which is not something a true friend would ever do. As far as Billups Mother goes, I found her an evil and toxic lady. I also think she doesn't deserve to be queen. Faking her death and blowing up her ship to guilt her son into physical intimacy and get him on the throne is a pure form of neglect and ultimate act of betrayal. I hope in the future, Hypseria gets a full-scale civil war and Queen Paolana is removed from the Throne.