Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Picard 3.10 - The Last Generation

[@BillinHungary]

The amazing thing about Captain Shaw, is that they managed to indroduce him as a potental antagonist who didn't care one bit who Picard was, to a a hero that everyone hoped didn't really die in the last epsiode! Props to the writers - "if it isn't on the page, it isn't on the stage'" and to Todd for bringing the character to life for us to hate, love and mourn, all in one season!

[@thecunninlynguist]

Definitely. Hated him the first ep and by ep 3, I loved him lol.

[@tlouiseallen9302]

Agreed🖖🏼

[@lhouchmonkeyman]

If Legacy becomes a thing, we can hope they need to find a way to bring back Shaw. I vote for making him the EEH. Emergency Engineering Hologram.

[@charlesjohnson7458]

So very VERY TRUE!!!!!

[@randomrazr]

did he actually die? the shot wasnt to the heart

[@DJniggels]

I'm 52 years old and usually as emotional as a Vulcan in a fridge. ;) Hologram Shaw talking about Seven of Nine and recommending her promotion to captain tore me up! What a beautiful beautiful moment. And it just didn't stop there, wet eyes until long after the credits rolled. Most beautiful piece of Star trek in ages!

[@jayphilbin2871]

You’re not alone. Wet eyes here too. (Wife looked at me kinda funny. What can I say, I’ve been watching Star Trek since 1966 when I was 7 years old.)

[@tlouiseallen9302]

@@jayphilbin2871me too 🙌🏼💪🏼🖖🏼

[@tringuyen7519]

It’s the Star Trek that everyone had been waiting for!

[@martinez1701a]

Oh GEEZ at the end of episode 9 was the first time in 25 years that we've been together my wife seen me seriously geek the F$%k out. She was laughing her a$$ off watching me have a nerd heart attack, man that was one of the best scenes in Picard.

[@DJniggels]

In some of the answers I sense the reason why I watch alone! :D ;)

[@twocvbloke]

Data's face when he was sending the Enterprise on it's wild ride wasnjust absolute perfection, and then, "Why am I sensing enjoyment?" from Troi, that was the cherry on top, that made me properly laugh!!! :D

[@thecunninlynguist]

Troi's face when data says same time tomorrow had me 😂

[@Tao_Tology]

@@thecunninlynguist Tbf I think 'noo Data's reactions to his new existence is entirely valid. He's not only a composite of some pretty conflicting characters but he now also has a new body to experience the world through and the (presumeably) full range of human emotions AND is having to do this as the equivalent of a full-grown, independent adult AAAND is having to integrate this with his lifetime of knowledge and Data-experiences. Oh and the whole 'I died twice already' thing.

[@GiraffeSweaters]

The beauty of having the Enterprise D back here for me was that it was treated as a character, not just the ship we all miss. She came back and gave all she had one last time to save everyone, just like the rest of the crew.

[@SamCogley]

When Data made that first turn to dive into the cube and spun her so hard that he about threw LaForge, Troi, and Crusher against the starboard bulkhead, I an only imagine that the 1701-D and her inertial dampers and structural integrity systems were just like “WTF?!? This shit again?!? Really?”

[@ethal1222]

Worf was an absolute delight this season, in both writing and performance...😊

[@ethal1222]

@Bruce Culver it's always nice when you can tell an actor is having fun with a role.

[@Roger_Kirk]

Was wonferful!

[@cidiracing7481]

Going into the season I absolutely did not expect Worf to be the comedic relief. But they nailed it. Just like Worf nails threesomes.

[@roguedexx938]

WorF was AWESOME!! Needed his own show! Best WorF ever!!!

[@haweater1555]

Best quote: "For a moment I was worried that we might survive!"

[@AdamHoose]

Deanna crash landed the saucer so efficiently that there were minimal causalities and, despite the initial assessment, so that it could later be salvaged and restored by LaForge. She’s awesome.

[@WanderingCactus]

One could still blame her for that, but how much experience did she really have flying a ship? And she's had 20 years to learn how to do it right, and in a way I like thinking that her reaction to failing like that was to learn how to do it right next time.

[@mattmartinolc]

I don't actually think it would have mattered who took the helm. The saucer got wasted in the shockwave of the secondary hull exploding and it was going to crash no matter what

[@gateauxq4604]

@Gavin she managed to get the saucer to land and not drive straight into the planet. For something so big to be saved like that took a fair bit of flying. She also likely would have gotten some training on piloting while she was going through the commander training.

[@cryofpaine]

@@WanderingCactus One could, but they would be wrong. She was an experienced officer, enough to take command of the ship on several occasions. That presumably includes pilot training. As others pointed out, she's able to pilot a damaged ship that's been thrown by a massive warp drive explosion towards the planet, and land it safely with minimal casualties and damage. She did perfectly fine. As for "learning how to do it right next time", when? Why would she bother learning when she's so close to retirement? If she didn't learn before, it's unlikely she would after. But even if she did, she's been planetside for nearly 20 years. Talk about rusty.

[@JK-wn3cc]

​@@WanderingCactus more experience than the Titans chef

[@joshridderhoff2050]

Hearing Walter Koenig’s voice behind his character’s son Anton made me well up instantly. And then it made me think of another son, Andrew, and I cried for the second time. What an entrance.

[@CaritasGothKaraoke]

Me too, but as a Babylon 5 fan there was a brief instant of “Oh no, PsiCorps has taken over EarthDome. Again!”

[@acmenipponair]

@@CaritasGothKaraoke Again? Did they ever leave? We don't know, perhabs Earth is full of Telepaths and the Non-Telepaths have chosen to go to Starfleet :D

[@bastian9713]

I also really liked this scene but am I the only one who thinks that it's weird that it is Chekhov's son who is president? Wouldn't it have made more sense if it had been his grandson or even great grandson? I mean there are several generations between Chekhov's prime and the present time...

[@Chace957]

Never explicitly says he’s Pavel’s son. Could be his grandson 🤷‍♂️. Father sayings do get passed down. Besides, that saying comes from Spock anyway. What if Spock had a kid that married Pavel’s descendant and this president is the descendant of two famous TOS crew?

[@daveclarke5766]

I am 64 years old, I have journeyed the entire history of Star Trek, start to present, I have bragged I could recite the entire monologue of Wrath Of Kahn. Emotions flowed freely watching this series and especially the last episode. Sean, thank-you for your enthusiasm and your attention to detail, I revisited all those emotions as you recapped the final episode. But your dedication to Shaw left me the most moved, that a new character had such an impact on the past, present and future, of the legacy of Star Trek, is a testament to the writers, producers and absolutely Todd Stashwick. And the journey continues. Well done Sean, Platinum up for you and Trek Culture.

[@gmmeier321]

Me too - go 64!!

[@timothymoyer2201]

Add me as well, 67 and watched TOS live on broadcast tv . The same and much more. Thanks, Sean.

[@Tao_Tology]

When I saw the trailer(s?) for S3 and that it was going to be heavily "TNG crew returning" I'll admit I was less than enthusiastic but the series was fantastic.

[@Edwozere]

Did anyone else notice how similar the speeches were between Anton Chekhov and the President in The Voyage Home? A brilliant, brilliant series, loved every minute of it. HUGE thanks to Sean and the team for all the Ups and Downs, incredible work, guys. See you soon for Strange New Worlds. EDIT - some of you seem to think my comment on the similarities between the speeches was some kind of criticism on lazy writing, it’s really not, far from it. If you look at the storytelling of Star Trek as a whole, we’ve been following the exploits of Starfleet for nearly 1000 years (including Discovery’s jump to the 32nd century). In all that time we’ve only ever heard Earths Planetary Distress Call twice. That’s not lazy writing, that’s continuity. 🖖

[@jamesblood6035]

Yep, absolutely got that!

[@robertwilliams9010]

Came here to say this. Thank you!

[@lamartherevenger]

Same!

[@msarzo]

Sure did!

[@tk421dr]

the whale one, yeah

[@JeffHarbert]

The scene when the Enterprise drifted into view over the Queen's chamber was breathtaking. We rarely get to see ships presented like that.

[@robertdrexel2043]

Agreed! I honestly thought, wait a moment is that a shuttle? That doesn't make any sense and then I was like, "NO! That is the Enterprise! Holy freaking cow!" I loved it!

[@AGD2112]

Agreed! I don;t think we have ever gotten a scene that really shows the scale of a starship before ... amazing camera angle and incredible CGI

[@mikek1187]

Plus...that would have meant that compartment was exposed to the vacuum of space. Unless there was a forcefield we weren't privy to.

[@Chief_Tanuki]

@@mikek1187 there must have been

[@jceggbert5]

Jupiter's gravity (which should've crushed everyone and everything) could've been holding some atmosphere in.

[@Olessa]

Gates McFadden was simply amzing in this episode. Especially with the quiet moments.

[@davidsharp9166]

An the drunk Doctor, in the Bar is hilarious

[@Roger_Kirk]

One of the best, but underused characters in the whole series. Whenever used to the full, she always delivered.

[@grahamcann1761]

Anton Chekov, son of Pavel Chekov. At one point he quotes a line from "his father", and even does it with Russian accent. In a receent interview with Walter Koenig, he explained they recorded it with a 'normal' accent, and with his Russian accent, and they went with the Russian one for the lines: "hope is never lost. There are always possibilities" as he was quoting his father's words. As always thank you so very much for videos.

[@Chace957]

And in that he was actually quoting Spock (as related via Kirk) in ST:WoK I think😊

[@nooneatall8072]

Someone iinvolved with the production said that they had wanted Koenig to appear visually in the ep, but there wasnt money or time enough to make that happen.

[@syntrilliumc.e.p.9326]

Also doing the nod to Anton Yelchin with that characters name, that was nice.

[@grahamcann1761]

@@syntrilliumc.e.p.9326 Yes!

[@Rutabaga64]

For me, this season of Picard was an absolute joy, a beautiful love letter to TNG as a series and to the Trek universe as a whole. I honestly didn’t expect to cry so many times during it, and many times those tears came because I wished my mum had lived to see it. She would have been as enthralled as I was. Terry Matalas is a fricking genius and I can’t thank him and everyone involved in this season enough for giving us such a wonderful show.

[@Spellbinder02]

Your answer just made me cry. I feel the same way, I wish my mom had lived to see it, too. She would have enjoyed it.

[@danielwoods7325]

Completely agree. Never cried so much in trek as I did for this season. An absolute gift, a recapturing of the TNG magic, and a brilliant story in its own right.

[@Cog_In_The_Gear]

This hit me. Good post. I watched TNG with my mom and we loved it! My mom’s still with us, but she doesn’t do this whole Trek resurgence. We talk and laugh and remember the original TNG the way it was. I personally loved the final season of Picard because it gave me closure, undermined by nostalgia and a healthy dose visual eye-candy! Was it perfect? No. Was I satisfactorily entertained? Absolutely.

[@DMGamanda]

I wish the previous two seasons had had a better storyline too. It would have been nice on such a limited run to have a more over aching story. But this season was great. Not just all the old cast but just generally❤

[@needfuldoer4531]

One thing that stood out to me was Data's bit about trusting his gut. It was like he couldn't believe he was saying it, or that he truly felt it. Troi sensing his elation at the situation was icing on the cake for that scene.

[@Draculhuhn]

I really loved Brents Interpretation of a Data/Lore merging - that swagger, that ' gut' - that clearly was Lore😊

[@NPCSingularity]

A bit of a callback to Spock making a guess on the Bounty for the Slingshot Maneuver.

[@shenett]

True but 2 seconds later Troi can pilot the ship just as easily.. oh I forgot life letter to tng

[@NPCSingularity]

@@shenett I mean she didn't prevent them from dying. We all saw what an experienced can do when trying to crash-land a smaller starship in Voyager.

[@markhutton6824]

I got chills when Anton Checkov was announced as the president of the UFoP and even when you were talking about it, hairs stood up on my arms. Such an amazing, low key tribute to an actor so cruel taken away. So many impactful scenes in this... I almost have no words.... this series of Picard was stunning and a great closure on a great cast and crew, those that still with us and those that have sadly past. I was emotional wrung out at the end of this and how Liam Shaw recommends Seven for a promotion means you have reevaluate all their scenes... rather than being a bigot he is challenging her to push harder and be more. Such a shame his character couldn't see what she was truly capable of, that realisation almost had me in tears.

[@TheMsLourdes]

No he was still a bigot, he didn't go through the growth needed to bring him down off the bigotry horse then, he still recognized talent, but he was stuck on that anti-borg bs. When he corrects the deadnaming issue at the end, that's when I could appreciate the man.. he died moments later.

[@alm2187]

Walter as Anton C? Okay. As a president and a callback to Voyage Home? In one fell swoop, that's shrinking the universe and implying that little happens in-universe between productions.

[@alm2187]

What bigotry do we mean, ​@@TheMsLourdes? Just his bias against the Borg?

[@junglemoose2164]

Terrible name! Anton!?! Really? Why not something noble like Steve? Worst part of the episode.

[@nooneatall8072]

@@alm2187 Nah - it is providing an easter egg callback to Voyage Home and TOS. Nothing wrong it at all. In fact, I rather liked it. It makes sense too. Earth is threatened, so the President gets on the horn and warns off all those who can hear.

[@SamCogley]

A couple of other thoughts that popped to mind that weren’t mentioned: -Raffi rewiring phasers into point-and-shoot transporter targeting scanners -Worf: “and I will make it a threesome.” Riker: “do you even hear yourself?” -Riker: mentions the lack of drones. Worf: “you appear to be oddly disappointed you’re not outnumbered.” Riker: “yeah, well I’ve never found myself in a ‘too quiet’ situation that ended with a pleasant surprise.” -Skeletal Borg. Great design. Ew. -I don’t think the Borg cube was in Jupiter until just before they started transmitting. When Jack warped in to nowhere in space, it looked a lot like the storm clouds of Jupiter. I think he warped to that nowhere spot, went through the transwarp conduit from a midpoint into the clouds of Jupiter, then the giant cube popped in through the conduit. Any short duration distraction could have been accomplished by the Changeling infiltrators. -Tuvok’s Vulcan “Dafuq?” look when Seven ties to resign is pitch-perfect. -absolutely 1000% agree on the conversation between Troi, Geordi, and Crusher. Especially the almost wordless conversation between Geordi and Beverly when she resigns herself and steels herself to kill three of her closest friends and her son to save…everyone. That may be worth a quantum slipstream up or something. Likewise, the look and stagger that Beverly does, catching herself on the tactical console when the turbolift opens and she sees the four of them OK, with Jack in the Borg suit.

[@nooneatall8072]

And Geordi's facial expression(s) and ticks as he ordered the D to fire. You could tell that he knew he was condemning his friends to death, potentially. But he was a Starfleet officer. And a de-factor ship Captain. He had the discipline to do what needed to be done.

[@QophSilrahq]

Thank you for reminding me. I wanted to point out that indeed it was not the first time that someone had used a phaser-activated transporter. Perhaps by anyone in the Federation, but they would have been aware of the technology since 2370.

[@Tao_Tology]

@@nooneatall8072 The episode really showed what a group of experienced, high-ranking SF officers would be like in the field, too. They know the stakes and what needs to be done.

[@jeffreytan2948]

Geordi: Can you say something positive for once Data: I hope we die quickly? 😊

[@SamCogley]

@@nooneatall8072 also the way he had his jaw clenched and could barely get out the order to fire. Mr. Burton was on his A+ game.

[@davidhilton-d4c]

With all the family themes this season I'm very disappointed that no one bothered to tell Data he has a literal horde of daughters. Would have loved to see that reaction.

[@gonzotown9438]

I think he should know that already, since he got Altan Soong's memories. Though, maybe he hadn't gotten around to accessing those memories yet.

[@librarian1701-D]

Me too... especially since it could tie into the other Picard seasons.. each season being rather like separate 'movies'

[@funny2thag]

My guess is Matalas was focused on TNG related story lines and less so on anything Kurtzman Trek.

[@RandomNPC001]

@@funny2thag I feel like he tried to erase the first 2 seasons as much as he could! “... the real borg, not that hipster commune...” and “it’s important to respect the past...” these statements alone is a commentary on new Trek. There’s also the fact that only gen Z people became “mindless drones”. Just my unpopular opinion!

[@gonzotown9438]

@@funny2thag yeah. Raffi was the only Kurtzman character who got anything like attention this season. Otherwise, it was almost like season 1 and 2 never happened.

[@Paddyevans]

I love the Shaws recommendation forces you to completely reassess every interaction we saw on screen between him and Seven. He wasn't just a bit gruff - he saw someone better than him, who embodied something better than him, knew it, made peace with it, and then she seemingly threw it all away for the creature from his nightmares. From his perspective, at least, until he had time to know Picard and friends. A second watch knowing this is going to hit different, and really shows how well written and performed Shaw was.

[@sarahkinsey5434]

I know one of the bigger characters had to die but why him? I would have loved to see more of him

[@waltermc3906]

@@sarahkinsey5434 Terry Matalis has said that it was always in the cards for Shaw to die at the hands of the Borg. That the Shaw character arc was actually the very first thing he wrote for the season.

[@MarinCipollina]

@@sarahkinsey5434 If someone had to go, it should have been Raffi.. If she wasn't big enough, it should have been Jack(ass)

[@jeremydale4548]

@@MarinCipollina Wow aren't you just a little cloud of acid hate

[@Gambyt6676]

The fact that the Seven of Nine is the Captain of the Enterprise-G is awesome. G being the 7th letter of the alphabet and this being the 9th (star)ship to have the name Enterprise.

[@junglemoose2164]

Incorrect. I have a small boat I use to relax on and it is called Enterprise. You really need to check your facts.

[@djjeeveslarue3499]

I didn't see that injoke/nod until then

[@robertdrexel2043]

Huh. I never even thought about that! Laughs. It does give some better meaning to the idea, then. Thanks.

[@wolvie14]

In the novels, she is an admiral. Being a Captain makes great sense. Janeway must be beaming with pride…

[@BowChickaHonkHonk1]

I did realize it was the 7th letter, but knowing the A wasn't the beginning, I hadn't put together until now that it was, indeed the 9th. Very nice.

[@creativepicnl]

How the Enterprise moved was HELLA EXCITING! I absolute loved to see Data’s face ! It was just brilliant! ❤🎉

[@kevinclark495]

raffis line "what were they thinking? they gave a starship to a theif, pirate and a spy" had me in stitches 😂😂😂

[@DanBrown96]

Can I just say, that while we of course expect fantastic acting from the seasoned Next Gen cast, and they did not disappoint, Ed Speleers was a real standout. He had a huge job, stepping into the world of ST and carrying a lot of the emotional thread of the story and he was absolutely phenomenal. Also Terry Matalas must now be shackled in a dungeon and forced to make all ST in perpetuity! Lol Make it so!

[@junglemoose2164]

Fantastic acting? Sure, buddy.

[@MetaGazon]

​@@junglemoose2164 thanks, I thought I was going crazy

[@junglemoose2164]

@@MetaGazon I was being sarcastic. Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner, and Michael Dorn are good actors. The rest of the TNG cast are adequate.

[@davidt8087]

@@junglemoose2164 exactly. Even Picard season 3 sucks. These idiot millennial gen z failures who fail upwards can never even make an episode as good as the WORST Of tng/ds9/voy and even ent. Watching fkn jack chitcard reminds me of what a fantastic strong character major Kira was, or the emotional depth of odo hidden so well by his facade of only caring for order. Or janeways strength and ability to be caring and maternal at the same time. Or chakotay being bada55 yet being spiritual and really kind at the same time. Or even Bashir being annoying yet very professional and heroic when the time rises. Wtf is jack chitcard? Just a literal avatar of the arrogant, inexperienced. Stupidity and ignorance of the FAILURE writers and producers of the show. Give me a fkn break. Literally no one who loves trek cares one bit about the new garbage shows. And we really aren't excited one bit to see q waste his time with Jack chitcard. Q must not be omnipotent anymore as he's forced to capitulate to the scribblings of arrogant failures at paramount. Do you think q would ever want to spend a second with Jack of this was tng/ds9/voy? He'd fkn laugh and make jack be gone forever and never bring him back

[@davidt8087]

@@MetaGazon ​ exactly. Even Picard season 3 sucks. These idiot millennial gen z failures who fail upwards can never even make an episode as good as the WORST Of tng/ds9/voy and even ent. Watching fkn jack chitcard reminds me of what a fantastic strong character major Kira was, or the emotional depth of odo hidden so well by his facade of only caring for order. Or janeways strength and ability to be caring and maternal at the same time. Or chakotay being bada55 yet being spiritual and really kind at the same time. Or even Bashir being annoying yet very professional and heroic when the time rises. Wtf is jack chitcard? Just a literal avatar of the arrogant, inexperienced. Stupidity and ignorance of the FAILURE writers and producers of the show. Give me a fkn break. Literally no one who loves trek cares one bit about the new garbage shows. And we really aren't excited one bit to see q waste his time with Jack chitcard. Q must not be omnipotent anymore as he's forced to capitulate to the scribblings of arrogant failures at paramount. Do you think q would ever want to spend a second with Jack of this was tng/ds9/voy? He'd fkn laugh and make jack be gone forever and never bring him back

[@a120068020]

Ending on a poker game like on All Good Things was a stroke of genius. Nothing in this episode disapointed me - considering it was a final episode as well is all the more incredible.

[@seafood1471]

I don't think we've had an uncontroversial season finale before (maybe aside from DS9). Season 3 of Picard has in my opinion for the first time realised the full potential the series and indeed star trek as a whole has to offer since the start of "new Trek". Not to hate on the other shows of course, I love them all but this season has put its self a cut above the rest. I am very excited to see what kind of approach they take for the "Star trek: Legacy" spinoff. (unlikely to be called legacy though given the 2006 video game by Ubisoft and Bethesda under the same name)

[@everettbruckerhoff6029]

also, in the soundtrack there is a song named "Must Come to an End," another great way of reflecting All Good Things.

[@chadacox]

I love that the camera stayed on that ending poker scene for a while!

[@andrewschwarz3405]

@@chadacox sure, but speaking as someone old enough to not be subject to the Borg attack, they could've stopped spinning over the table after a while... it was making me dizzy! 😋

[@PhaaxGames]

I just wish that Data would have worn his green poker visor.

[@kenwynn3871]

Really got a thrill out of seeing Deanna really "empath" in this episode, particularly feeling Riker's sorrow and redeeming herself from Generations, in the very same chair btw, but even more so as it echoed that scene in Nemesis when she used the Viceroy's abusive link to fire on the Scimitar, this time in a much more positive way

[@Tao_Tology]

My head canon is that she continued to develop this new/advancement tracking ability after Nemesis.

[@josephbrown6906]

What about the wordless goodbye between Riker and Troi before Riker left with Worf and Picard?! Just the look they gave each other was perfect. Chef's kiss to it.

[@julieanngoodwin30]

Also how Beverly couldn't bring herself to look at the three of them as they left.

[@danielwoods7325]

The most impressive thing for me about this finale was how they gave us SO MUCH, to be excited about or just grateful for, that it left me feeling simply happy that it happened, and not just sad that it's over.

[@Astrothunderkat]

this x100

[@purefoldnz3070]

they are trying to make the spin off series Star Trek: Legacy

[@ChrundleTGreat]

Thats gratitude! And I felt it so much as well! Like I want to thank the entire cast and crew for making a 12 year old 48 year old’s imagination come to life on screen!!

[@davidkruse4030]

The final was trash.

[@danielwoods7325]

@@purefoldnz3070 right?? "A 12 year old 48 year old's imagination", I know exactly what you mean lol. Takes me back, man.

[@DavidBaronStevens]

I have always loved Worf's deadpan humor and how Riker has poked him over the years. Very much like an older/younger foster brother dynamic considering how different their backgrounds but how deep the admiration and quiet the bond

[@cateclism316]

"You do know how to fire?"

[@junglemoose2164]

I was really hoping Worf was going to stab Riker.

[@MKDumas1981]

A better relationship than with his _actual_ foster brother.

[@jacobboxer4463]

This season was a true gift to TNG fans. This was the show I grew up with and it was so much fun to watch them go on one more adventure together. Thanks for covering this so well! A few more observations: - The scenes on the Enterprise-D used the old warp effect, which was a nice touch - They used the old school shield bubble for the D vs. the newer ones that conform to the hull - Even though the old transporter sounds were used, they used the newer effects - It was fun to watch them fire from some of the more seldom-used phaser banks at the rear of the secondary hull - I thought I saw one single quantum torpedo being fired from a Sovereign class ship. Seems like those have gone by the wayside in the newer shows Finally, I agree with my fellow fans who think that rechristening the Titan wasn’t the best idea for a couple of reasons: - The Titan has its own history. It was important enough to warrant an “A” that was built out of some of the parts of the original, and just played a MAJOR part in saving the galaxy. To toss its history aside that quickly feels wrong. If they had to rechristen it, they should have named it the USS Picard. I know it’s tradition to name ships after those that have died, but if you think about it, the original Picard died at the end of season 1, so maybe that deserves a bit of a waiver from Admiral Janeway - The Enterprise has always been the flagship of the Federation and the pinnacle of Starfleet technology. The neo-Constitution class was described as an underdog ship. Not really flagship, front-line material. It’s a huge departure from the legacy of the Enterprise, especially coming off of the F, which was a massive Odyssey class ship If there is a Star Trek: Legacy series, maybe they can fix things by saying it was a ceremonial rechristening and a placeholder while they worked on the next Enterprise All in all, it was a great ride. I’m sad that it’s over, but glad we got to take it! =/\=

[@nooneatall8072]

U did see a quantum torpedo fired from a Sovereign class ship. (I saw it too). Spacdock looked to tattoo a couple of Sovereigns in that engagment. Sorta like they wanted to knock out the Quantum Torpedo armed ships. I thought that I read that QTs were more difficult to construct and use than regular PTs. Maybe Starfleet moved away from QTs after Janeway decimated the Borg. They weren't needed any longer. Do Oddysey class ships have QTs? Terry and the writers did consider renaming the Titan to the USS PIcard. Was the NCC-1701 and NCC-1701-A the "flagship of the Federation"? We don't know what the Titan was refitted with/to before it was rechristened. We know that it was refitted. That's why Seven's 1st cruise as Captain was a "shakedown cruise".

[@davidhamilton-bg4nj]

Captain Shaw started out as one of those characters you either love or hate, similar to Captain Jellico, but once you came to know his motivations that lead him to that leadership style and personal/emotional distancing, and have earned his trust, he becomes one of the best Captains in Star Trek lore.

[@TheTefloncougar]

During his counseling session with Troy, Data said he saw an ensign feed his cat and it made him cry. He misses Spot.

[@junglemoose2164]

I totally misread that moment. I thought Data missed ensigns.

[@AlyssaNguyen]

It made me think about my cat and break out in tears, despite her being alive and well.

[@TheTefloncougar]

@@junglemoose2164 Well, it is hard to do a dangerois mission without the Fodder Platoon

[@TheTefloncougar]

@@AlyssaNguyen I had to put down Cleo Catra, my brown tabby last Nov. Still feel it at times.

[@1wps3694]

I just read this somewhere, but to add on the scene where Picard and Jack was inside the collective. Their connection in the collective helps Jack sees all the memories of Picard and how he felt ever since meeting him. I think that helped him realize that Picard is genuine in his words.

[@demondamo696]

Didn't think of that, it makes sense.

[@purefoldnz3070]

the hive was dead. So what exactly was Jack connecting to prior to Picard. Btw how did Picard enter the collective since he was an android?

[@L8ugh1ngm8n1]

@@purefoldnz3070 Nothing to stop him from connecting to the collective due to being an android. Yes in First Contact Data says that he cannot be assimilated because his neural network cannot be forcibly overwritten but what if you WANT to join them?

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@L8ugh1ngm8n1 I guess the rule was they can only assimilate biological beings. But they had to wrap up the episode. Plus making Picard an android was one of the dumbest ideas

[@jakehanifee8856]

Knowing how much the cast love each other in real life made the ending entirely fitting. It was a great pleasure for all of us who lived through the original 7 seasons to see our friends retire with the esteem and honor they earned in our hearts

[@noahlandy4269]

Fantastic episode. What a finale! Anyone else think that there was some awesome synonymity with Seven commanding the Enterprise G as it’s the seventh ship to bear the name Enterprise.

[@jameymorrison1407]

Technically the 9th starship, as NX-01 was the first, NCC-1701 (no bloody A, B, C or D!) was the second and so on. So I guess, with G being the seventh letter of the alphabet, there really is a 7 of 9 connection!!

[@noahlandy4269]

@@jameymorrison1407 even better logic

[@tringuyen7519]

@@noahlandy4269 Yup. 7 of 9 Enterprise!

[@Boodlums]

@@jameymorrison1407 so her nickname could be GOFI 😅

[@BlaqJedimaster]

Oh that's FANTASTIC!!!!!

[@98.11Deet]

The sense of sadness I feel in saying goodbye to these characters is entirely eclipsed by the sense of fulfillment and joy I feel in how it ended. I can't thank Terry Matalas enough for this. Television hasn't made me feel this good in decades.

[@alexrobinson3970]

what a man

[@richjermy7930]

Thanks to Sean and all at Trek Culture - for me, you guys have been the first port of call after every episode has dropped. Season 3 of Picard is hands down some of the best Trek I’ve seen in years. This episode, seeing the entire crew together, facing off against the Borg in the D, takes me right back to when I first connected with TNG as a kid. My love of all things Trek started with this crew and it will endure even as the great game ends. But what a blast. Massive ups for me for a sleepy Worf, Data’s glee at flying the D and bothering Deanna with endless counselling sessions, Crusher crushing it at tactical, THAT gorgeous scene with the D, piloted by Troi, swooping in to beam up the away team and Jack, President Anton Chekov, Captain Seven and, of course, the Enterprise-G. Also, of COURSE Q wasn’t dead - who ever thought he was?! Now, do us all a favour Paramount: green light Star Trek Legacy, already. 🖖

[@phillipswartz4946]

Sean, I want to thank you and the entire TrekCulture team for combing through each episode and pulling out each and every tidbit. No matter whether it was good or bad, highlighted in the ups and downs, or whether it was informative or nostalgic, highlighted in cetacean observations, you all have been more than thorough, and these were the most enjoyable ups and downs of any Star Trek series to stardate. Kudos to you all. You deserve our appreciation and adulation.

[@artiek1177]

So say we all! (To borrow from another sci fi show).

[@bug5317]

I have been missing my TNG cast along with DS9 and Voyager cast. Having SOME of the Voyager cast join has been a treat and having all my TNG staples return have really really tugged at my heart! There is still SO MUCH to discover! I really want more and hope they find a way to all come back because what else are these amazing folks doing? Expand!!! I cried a lot on S3 Ep 9 and Ep 10. This was such a love letter to us fans. These people really raised me as a TV kid. I don't know that they understand how much they mean to us!

[@kathienightingale]

I think the fact that Riker and Troi never mention their daughter on earth is worse than leaving out Laren

[@Mcsqw]

Was she on Earth?

[@TakuroSpirit77]

​@@Mcsqw It was assumed(?) she was studying at Starfleet Academy

[@valerieprema9432]

yeah that was a bit odd. As parents you would think they'd be worried about her.

[@IMDARKFIRE007]

Ummmmm.....that's Laris. LAREN is Ro...

[@Raja1938]

They did, in 2 episodes I believe.

[@georgeleinberger8670]

Thank you to everyone at Trek Culture for taking this journey with us. I have looked forward to every Ups and Downs with the same enthusiasm as each episode of season 3. ❤

[@citizen_wayne]

Hear hear!

[@moJinn]

This season was such a great swan song for TNG. I was blown away so many times.

[@TreyMcDonaldAnimator]

This was such a blast. Few tears, multiple laughs, and just a beautiful end and a fitting tribute to one of the best starfleet teams of all time. Picard went out on a high note.

[@ssia6938]

Laris deserved better. You missed Seven giving her inspirational speech to her small crew on the Titan. Great moment.

[@valerieprema9432]

Laris was one of my fave characters in the first two seasons. I know the focus was on the old and next next gen cast, but why bring her in to the first episode without even a mention at the end? But I suspect a lot ended up on the cutting room floor....

[@LB-gz3ke]

I agree about that speech to the motley crew left onboard the Titan. As an old Picard/Crusher shipper I was not looking for scenes with Laris, but if they brought her in at the beginning, she should have at least had a mention at the end. Maybe it was to appease both sides. I will assume they broke up, Laris fans will assume they did not, lol.

[@jeremynew6449]

Picard could have said Laris is expecting me but I can play a few hands. It just looks like writers are not talking to each other.

[@v.sandrone4268]

Worf is single 😂

[@dagmar0027]

The Seven & Tuvok scene also shows how far Seven has come in her journey to reclaim her humanity from the Borg. On Voyager, Seven was very Vulcan-like. In Picard, she's become very human - and that's underscored when she's tearing up over Shaw's recommendation in front of Tuvok.

[@VincentPascual]

We did get some human moments for Seven in Voyager. The ending of the episode “One” is one of them.

[@aznhoodraxon]

That’s how I feel too. Feels like Janeeay and chakotay influenced her character alot

[@nick5661]

I ironically felt this was brilliant as they were so close on voyager due to how they thought, was perfect

[@Kllgg]

I was mildly annoyed that Q went to Jack instead of the captain of that ship, but then I remembered he already knows her and doesn’t like her.

[@Kllgg]

@@VincentPascual, her anger at The Doctor in Virtuoso is another excellent moment showing Seven’s humanity. Jeri Ryan was a lot better in that role that she got credit for at the time.

[@PalmsMusic]

i wont even lie i shed tears watching this last episode. The nostalgia, the enterprise D, the old crew, it was beautiful, I've watched the original TNG as a young kid and I haven't been so emotional in such a long time.

[@literalsarcasm1830]

"I owe him a lifetime. The least I can give him is a minute" had me bawling 😢

[@Tvirus12]

Incorrect strategy, number 1

[@davidcohen4518]

That was so dumb lol

[@literalsarcasm1830]

​@@davidcohen4518 what's it like?

[@compmanio36]

@@Tvirus12 Nice reference.

[@davidcohen4518]

@@literalsarcasm1830 oh, you were being sarcastic, I get it now

[@Gambit2051]

biggest laugh for me was Beverly saying "A lot has happened the last 20 years" when the other 3 turned to look at her after that strafe....Brilliant imo lol.

[@TheInselaffen]

Nah, biggest laugh was Worf snoring.

[@Gambit2051]

@@TheInselaffen that was my 2nd biggest laugh! LOVED IT!

[@BrianSebby]

I'm going to have to watch this later, but I just wanted to say thank you to Seán and the entire TrekCukture team for FANTASTIC recaps all season.

[@Psiros]

As a kid, I always wondered how powerful Spacedock would be against a fleet of ships. This episode did NOT disappoint in answering that. And yes, it was as powerful as I expected it to be all things considering. However, I always thought Starfleet was much larger than what was depicted. I always imagined several thousand ships divided into multiple fleet commands.

[@nooneatall8072]

I always pictured the 750-ship kinda fleet that the USN put to sea in the 1980s. I figured that starships were expensive and required all kinds of logistics. Spacedock (which I keep calling Starbase-1 for some reason) was certainly as powerful as expected. It would have been able to hold off pretty much any foreign attacking fleet. In such a situation such a fleet would have had to come thru a good part of Starfleet 1st. And likely face a relief fleet assisting SB-1. Wow. Did u notice Spacedock's return fire and it taking out capital ship after capital ship? I swear that I saw several Sovereigns and maybe an Oddysey or 2 get taken out.

[@antonnurwald5700]

Yeah. That part was stupid. Both the idea of calling the entire fleet to earth for a parade and the actual size. I think the Dominion War phase of DS9 gave a more realistic picture.

[@nooneatall8072]

@@antonnurwald5700 Larger or smaller than what we saw?

[@nooneatall8072]

@@antonnurwald5700 I would disagree to a point regarding fleet sizes in the War. The Federation was fighting a Total War so they would likely be doing what the US did in WW2 and build and build and build. And then once the War was over, decommission and decommission and decommission. The USN did not keep all of the ships built to fight WW2 in service after the war was over.

[@nooneatall8072]

@@antonnurwald5700 Calling the entire active fleet together was foolish for sure. But it looked to be emulating things that the British Royal Navy would do. The RN did large Fleet Reviews for certain big events such as a new monarch being crowned or an old one celebrating 50 years on the throne. And Frontier Day could very well have had a hand from the changelings.

[@penguinphysics]

One thing missed in Cetacean Observations: The phasers used by Raffi & Seven against the young borg activated transporters. This is very evocative of the criminals in the TNG episode Gambit (part 1) where their phasers are programmed to appear to disintegrate but actually activate the transporter (which is why Picard was assumed to have been killed) Additionally, Data trying to trust his gut is, I believe, a reference to TNG's The Defector where he tells Admiral Jerrok that he is attempting to ascertain what his 'guts' are telling him.

[@matthysahne5453]

Another Observation : did anyone catch the slight gong chiming in the background, while Jack is getting his things from his back in the end scene. That sounds very much like the gong heard in Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country. Irony much ?

[@robertdrexel2043]

Also wasn't there a scene in Next Generation with La Forge and Data talking about a Gut Feeling?

[@Gazza021]

I very much thought they were firing isolinear tags at them, just like in Star Trek Insurrection, so that they could beam them out even if they had something to block the transporter? Which, since they were Borg at the time, likely would have been the case. Literally came to mind when I was watching.

[@NankitaBR]

As a Brazilian, I was so happy when I heard the borgified voices saying "Target São Paulo". I know I should be sad because it is a big city very close to my city, but seeing Brazil being acknowledged in stuff I like always makes me so happy!

[@accordingtodonny7104]

The Seven of Nine series is probably gonna end up being what we think Star Trek Legacy is. It’ll have cameos from older series, but I think it’ll center around Seven’s crew and Jack’s “trial for humanity”.

[@omma911]

Just too bad that Rafi will most likely be there as well.

[@itzante2148]

I’m here for this!

[@ludbud57]

@@omma911 such a terrible actress...

[@traydanielturnstricksforjo9572]

'Strange New Worlds' is much better,....Anson Mount nails it as Captn. Pike

[@Qbancutter]

@@omma911 I love her character and she as an actress.

[@wearwolf2500]

The first season of Star Trek: Picard has been really good. I'm looking forward to two more like this.

[@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689]

I don't get why they didn't make anything with the TNG crew between All Good Things and this 😅

[@Psiros]

😂

[@Tao_Tology]

@@fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Patrick Stewart stated that there was to be no Enterprise and no (starfleet) uniforms in the series.

[@alanburke76]

A very nice tribute for Capt. Shaw. I am sad he’s gone, but am so massively glad that he paid honor and tribute for Seven, and showed her the respect she is more than due. Another great Ups and Downs, thank you.

[@billtrombley3434]

Stashwick's Battle of Wolf 359 speech was just so spot on, that I said to myself around episode 7 that Shaw would honor Seven by choosing to address her by her preferred name, & not Hansen. Glad that came about.

[@annieworroll4373]

That character was just brilliantly conceived and executed. Using his trauma to inform and explain his treatment of Seven, without excusing it, and showed that he had a self awareness of that and was genuinely struggling. Some very precise juggling from the writers and from Todd Stashwick to make that land was amazing.

[@elphiegleason3899]

My favorite Dips@&$ from Chicago I’m biased. Family and best pizza on the planet

[@MKDumas1981]

Money has a way of bringing people back from the dead. Just ask Spock.

[@jasonwallace2540]

Shaw was a fantastic character and seemed to be nearly killed each week. Gone to soon I loved how he disrespected Picsrd and Ryker.

[@a-rod48]

Fun fact: G is the 7th letter of the alphabet. And chronologically to this point in the series, there have been 9 starships enterprise. Makes 7 of 9 being captain of this particular Enterprise pretty fitting, don't you think?

[@aralifefarming]

NX, Original, then the additional A B C D E now F (gone) then G.

[@vfwdoug]

More like re-fitting, amirite?!

[@bru1nzguy436]

Fascinating

[@The_Str4nger]

actually there are 10 starships. you forgot the XCV 330 USS Enterprise that came before the NX 01. But nobody cares for that forgotten Enterprise

[@BlownMacTruck]

No.

[@georgewodicka4839]

Todd Stashwick and Ed Speleers deserve Emmy nominations. What magnificent performances. What an incredible job by all.

[@randyludwig7612]

The end of Picard brought tears to my eyes when I thought back to the first Star Trek when I watched it in the 60's right to the end of Picard with all of them together. I'm in my 60.s right now and hope that I will get one more Star Trek in my life.

[@MSACoachMike]

The thing that worked for me was that every character was given an important and pivotal thing to do. They all had to work together, play to their strengths, and were given their moment to lead. If any one of them were missing, they would not have been able to pull the mission off.

[@TheBertLocker]

Sean is such a natural and engaging host, wishing him all the best.

[@PandezPanda]

Picard season 3 felt like a true follow up to season 7 of TNG it was glorious. Thanks to TrekCulture and Sean for all the Ups and Downs!

[@sarahkinsey5434]

It really is the last TNG movie we didn’t get

[@antdonn]

Could not disagree at all, closure ❤

[@Heymrk]

I liked seasons 1 & 2 because they were slower Isaac Asimov style scifi, rather than pew pew action adventure sci fi. Now, don't get me wrong, I did enjoy this season, but equally with season 1. Season 2 was just ok.

[@NavarinoDC]

​@@Heymrk Season 2 was AWFUL! So badly written I almost gave up on Star Trek altogether and skip this season. I'm glad I didn't.

[@sanethoughtspreader]

​@@NavarinoDC same! I'm still not entirely sure I finished the season. Season 2 was a cringe fest. Season 1 was not much better. Season 3 was far from perfect but it was lovely all the same.❤

[@stephenjohnston7630]

The Laris thing was driving me crazy. She was the best thing from the first 2 seasons, and they went to the bother of setting her up as a significant part of Picard's life in Season 3.

[@lonnyyoung4285]

I totally forgot about her in this season.

[@nooneatall8072]

They followed thru from Season 2, there. And Laris was certainly good for Picard. I was disappointed to not see here in ep 10, but can understand why. Laris is independent enough to accept Jean-Luc moving on. And smart enough to see it coming. And big enough to hold no rancor about it. But things a vague enough so that we could headcannon that Jean-Luc and Laris are still together. The question is whether Jack could accept that.

[@Tao_Tology]

I was amazed she was disappeared by the writers this season. If you have the chance to have _Orla freaking Brady_ in your show......you put her in the damn show.

[@theredranger9723]

If someone took a poopie in space it would still be a more interesting character than Laris 💩

[@cmacmenow]

Just finished 10/10 Picard. What a trip! Q on!

[@shaneblackburn8910]

As someone who grew up with TNG as a kid during the 90's, Picard season3 was a dream come true. An absolute masterpiece. A perfect send off to the cast. And yes we need the spinoff Star Trek: Legacy NOW.

[@VulcanSpock]

Probably the Cube transwarped in from another location and straight into Jupiter's atmosphere, making it undetectable, until it started broadcasting the signal. Also, when Data mentioned his gut feeling, it was such a cool callback to TNG episode The Defector, learning about gut feeling.

[@diamondjim7560]

Yeah, Sean kind of jumped that too much for a down. The transwarp aperture was inside the gases of Jupiter. Of course the Borg Cube was undetected. Jack had to go somewhere else to find it so the cube was not in the Sol system.

[@SamCogley]

Caught a few other details worth mentioning: Geordi clenches his jaw and can barely give Beverly the order to fire on the beacon. It’s a great bit of acting from Mr. Burton. Riker gets a completely horrified look on his face when he and Worf run into the Queen’s chamber, and sees Picard about to plunge a Borg connection into his neck. Great bit of acting from Mr. Frakes. When everything is blowing up, before Riker says goodbye to Deanna, he and Worf look at each other with none of their usual needling, and Riker says “Well, my friend, is this good enough?” To which Worf replies, with all sincerity, “It is indeed a good day to die with honor.” Riker knows both Worf and Klingon culture as much as anyone can. It’s just a beautiful little character moment when they think they’ve reached their end. One thing I think you mentioned as a “down” was Jack freeing himself from the Borg voluntarily. At this point, the OG Borg are badly weakened. Future Janeway’s pathogen and Voyager blowing up that transwarp hub crippled them. All that’s left is one huge cube, about 2/3 dead, and almost no drones to form a hive mind in the regular fashion. The Queen needed Jack to come to her voluntarily, and she didn’t have the power to hold him if he decided to break away on his own. All she had was that seductive power of connectedness that Jack craved.

[@Tao_Tology]

Something I thought was odd about them being in the chamber was how little the Queen actually does. Like, apart from when she first raises her head she literally doesn't move from that spot. Meanwhile 4 people are able to stand there, talk to each other etc I mean I know we're told the Borg are weak but......not even a single borg tentacle moves towards them?

[@SamCogley]

@@Tao_Tology They did use some of their infamous moving cables to assimilate Jack. Data said the cube was 36% operational when they first showed up. It would be trying to repair damage and fire weapons while the 1701-D was blasting away at it, and that huge transmitter keeping the fleet assimilated must have been drawing a lot of power. The Queen may simply have not had the energy and processing power necessary to throw cables at Worf and Riker.

[@dna9838]

They really smashed it with this season. Loved almost every minute... And even lining up a great potential new series.

[@NakedEyeStudios]

The entire season was pure joy. Obviously made with so much love & attention to detail. Their real-life friendship of 35 years could be felt throughout. I was fortunate to attend the IMAX advance screening. A nugget from the live cast/crew talkback: The Data/Troi therapy scene was 100% Spiner’s idea. Matalas raved about it said it was way better than what they had. Spiner explained it as Data had always been trying to understand humanity. Now that he was nearly human, he continued to question and be confused by it, just like we all are. Brilliant.

[@justachick9793]

It's been a pleasure watching this with you and everyone in the comments. Thank you all for the insight and the fun. 🖖

[@Cheezbat]

The renaming of the Titan should be a major down. You’ve basically ruined the legacy of the Titan by changing it….and the enterprise should be a much bigger and better ship. I HATED this part.

[@toysmostwanted]

As much as I love John De Lancie's Q, I kinda wish it was Junior in that end scene. Something about Jean Luc and Q's sons meeting and annoying each other feels right.

[@JuPMod]

I really do not see Q Jr. being annoying as his father. I guess his brief time as being a human on Voyager made him more sympathetic to 'lower life forms', especially with Janeway being his Godmother.

[@Solitaire001]

One option with Q Jr. is to make him more like the latter-era Mr. Mxyzptlk in the Superman Comics. Mxyzptlk moved from being just an annoying presence to Superman to being more of a guide to provide help to Superman by giving him advice and guidance...although his help is sometimes hard to understand. At one point he pops up and telling Lois and Clark to support and love each other to give them the strength they will need to survive what is coming (he gives them a warning where he mentions the many epic "Crisis" like events that had happened in both DC and Marvel).

[@BruinPhD2009]

Riker to Worf, after the unfortunate wording for the away team: “Do you even hear yourself?” Hilarious and needed.

[@jackkenefick2696]

Maybe Picard will get his!

[@Roger_Kirk]

Lovely scene where Riker says he misses that [computer] voice. We all do. Bring her back!

[@faelirra]

Majel did record a huge number of lines to be used as Star Trek computer voice when she learned she was not long for this world. So do not if there are more Trek series they have those lines saved.

[@TheAngryPlrate]

Ai can replicate voices now too so any dialogue not recorded can still be done

[@the_red_key8825]

This whole episode brought tears to my eyes! So well made! Such a. Wonderful send off!! To top it off for me, there is a comic con event happening in my town today and Gates McFadden, Brent Spiner, John de Lancie AND William Shatner will be at and i am so looking forward to the panel and getting to meet them and get pics/autographs after all this!!

[@hadorstapa]

I loved hearing the ship's bells sounding as Jack unpacked. We heard them like that in The Undiscovered Country, and I love the naval connotations of a working ship.

[@cinemagoose]

Knowing that, if his roles I'm the MCU don't continue, this could be Patrick Stewart's last role as one of his famous character portrayals, was really touching.

[@roboguy75]

Better to go out on a high note with this compared to the MCU

[@JustMe99999]

*Stewart

[@nbartlett6538]

Bear in mind that Sir Pat Stew's "famous characters" include King Lear, Hamlet...

[@DarkLordDiablos]

I'm sure if the currently named "Star Trek: Legacy." gets the go ahead, the TNG cast will make appearances and be mentioned considering Beverly is back working with Starfleet Medical, Geordi has the Fleet Museum, Riker will go back to semi-retirement, Troi is back working as a Counselor and Worf is still working with Starfleet Intelligence, the only one who will doing less will be Picard unless between now and the start of the possible show, he's been convinced to finally take up the role of CinC. The job he could have had way back in season 1 if he really wanted it since we all know Fleet Admiral Clancy only got the job because Picard didn't want it.

[@SallyLovejoy]

I've watched Star Trek since TOS, I'm old! This last series has been my most favourite EVER and the finale was my most favourite episode. It's incredible to think that when TOS was first shown, we hadn't even landed on the Moon!

[@Mcsqw]

TNG was my childhood, BBC2 at 6pm. Star Trek was always supposed to be a hopeful vision of the future, and it is incredible to think that it started in the shadow of potential nuclear annihilation and before we'd even got to our closest celestial neighbour! We've got enough grimdark and miserable in reality, and I'm so glad that we got a season finale that was full of joy and love for that original vision.

[@veggiet2009]

I just watched the episode "the defector" the night before, and I payed special notice of the conversation between Data and Geordie about what it means to have "a gut" So when Data said he had a gut feeling, and pleaded with Geordie to let him use it, I thought it was such a great moment, I had tears at that

[@tkgsingsct]

It was easy for Picard to leave the Collective this time because 1) he had Jack's help, and 2) this version of the Borg was weakened, starving, aged, the queen said herself.

[@ryanandrus144]

Don't forget he wasn't human anymore, and remember how easy it was for Data to resist the Borg in "First Contact" or how Data could access the collective in "Best of Both Worlds, Part II"

[@Carthybp]

This whole season did an amazing job of cleaning up all sorts of loose ends. Questions that have been hanging around for 20+ years finally have answers. I'm annoyed that there was this huge changeling presence and they were made out to be the big bad guys, only for it to be the borg again. But this feels like a much better sendoff for the TNG crew. And I am 1000% ready for the Enterprise G and Captain Seven.

[@DanTheAngryModder]

As a fan, I shed a few tears due to the ending of an era that shaped much of my youth. As a dad of 5, I cried like the day my kids were born with the exchanges between Picard and Jack. Ugh... I watched it 3 times in a day to catch more details. Then... Enterprise G... saw that coming... but made me feel like a kid again with the refit/redesignation of the A, and how it made me feel during the TMP era. ** EDIT - in watching the reference to Jack leaving the collective so easily, remember his plan was to take down the queen and the Borg for good. Perhaps she was stronger than he anticipated, sure, but once he realized there was a way to *win*... he used it. I wonder, based on his overall abilities, if he planned it the whole time.

[@jeffbudd7678]

I took the whole Deanna knowing where the away team was as a nod to how she knew where the Scimitar was in Nemesis. She had the telepathic link to the Viceroy and used that to target his location. We know Troi and Riker share a telepathic connection so when Will says "I love you Imzadi" she picked it up telepathically and triangulation their position based on their telepathic connection more than just sensing Rikers love as Sean said in the video.

[@michaeldrake3225]

The bit when Picard & Jack are in the cube and Enterprise looms into view overhead ... put me in mind of the bit of Georgiou & Burnham 'lost' in the desert until Shenzhou appears overhead

[@martynstembridge7714]

Read between the lines ... Laris was saying goodbye to Picard in episode one. The comment about meeting at a bar was just a sweet way of saying I'll always think about you. They BOTH knew deep down that Picard couldn't ever leave behind his life travelling the stars and facing death constantly. It was a touching farewell without the words ...

[@rodbickel8628]

I agree 100%

[@sarahkinsey5434]

Is it sad that I forgot about her lol

[@andrewschwarz3405]

I was kind of hoping that the Jack scene would've been followed by just a split second after the credits... Laris, sitting in the bar on Chaltok IV, sipping a drink, watching the sunset... eyeing a dashing hunk behind the bar and saying to herself, "eh, you deserve BETTER!" ;-)

[@tommyalmeyda1253]

I agree Martyn! Laris was a favorite I hope we have not lost!

[@tommyalmeyda1253]

If 7 of 9 was willing to save Nelix with nano probes, why not Shaw?

[@MontytheHorse]

Renaming Titan was a down for me. She deserved to be remembered after what she had just been involved in. I’d have preferred Enterprise G to be a new ship. Did really love the season though. Gave the TNG crew a great send off. It was the best of the three seasons, IMVHO.

[@elvaz2]

Ask the crew of the Titan if a name means nothing. Star Fleet shitted on the Titans crew and Captain Shaw.

[@VikCachat]

Yeh such a let down for me, I thought they were setting it up to look like they were going to the Titan and but then fly past to another ship called Enterprise-G with Seven in command. Rechristening her after all she (and her crew) went through in the season is a disgrace. Throughout the show she is repeatedly referred to as an old ship, Geordie for example comments on how she is so well maintained given her age and would have talked shop with shaw if he had time. So wouldn't she be due for decommissioning herself after a few more deployments? Additionally she definitely isn't the strongest design as Shaw said that she was outmatched against the Shrike. Starfleet has a tradition that the Enterprise of the day launches with the very best in technological advancements and ship design; the "neoconnie" is a regression even when she was originally launched and how long ago was that considering that the Titan-A is referred to as an old ship?

[@VikCachat]

@@elvaz2 Exactly, even more considering how many of their ship mates died in battle aboard her.

[@mattrichardson2451]

I agree. Hated that. Just refit the F. It reeks of Matalas wanting to get his own ship design as the Ent. By own I mean his own show. Nothing wrong with the F. Very poor decision in my mind.

[@motorhead281]

The Titan really grew on me... it deserved better! I'd have like the new Enterprise to be a larger, "state of the art" version of the Connie 2 class, as I didn't care for the F at all.

[@sandrafaith]

I thought that very same thing about Seven being the one person who'd understand what it was to be assimilated. I felt Sidney's tears acutely.

[@ButWaitTheresMoore]

So much therapy needed for the entirety of Starfleet after all this.

[@robertdrexel2043]

I am actually ashamed that I didn't even get that bit of this scene. So yeah it really does further explain the whole scene, and that said, I am sure Seven is going to be talking to other young officers of the crew about what had happened. Especially after being made captain by Tuvok.

[@lainielooentertainment]

When the Titan and Enterprise D fly away from the camera it's evocative of the Excelsior and Enterprise A sailing together at the end of Star Trek VI. (“Nice to see you in action one last time.”) Also, they tell Worf to have more prune juice in the 10 Forward scene.

[@tnorthy92]

I thought Jack's line on the bridge to Seven "Writing the opening line of your LEGACY" was a pretty heavyhanded hint for a sequel too

[@QorbeQ]

This!

[@rhocat362]

Everything about this was heavy-handed!

[@cwam1701e]

I thought it was Jack mischievously putting on the pressure to freak her out over what should have been a simple command!

[@colinpartington1562]

I have always loved TNG and was wondering halfway through the final episode of Picard that I should stop watching. For many of us, this crew feels like family and I was pretty worried it was going to really hurt me. However, this was a perfect ending to something that has given me so much joy, in lots of dark times I must add. We are all on our own journey in life and something as special as Star Trek can bring us all together and remind us that we are all connected somehow, and for me, that makes life feel so much better. Thank you Sean for letting me enjoy your take on the series, and to all the Star Trek fans, I think our fandom has only just begun. Here's to a wonderful future x

[@dayrkflaugh]

I what's the worried that they were going to kill somebody off to make it sad ending I'm so glad that it didn't. At one point I looked up Worf's age since he seemed to age so little compared to everyone else and it listed his death as being on the Enterprise D. I realize now that it was talking about the episode where he broke his back and officially died before coming back. lol

[@misterverb8251]

Finally watched it Monday night. Spent the entirety of Tuesday gulping back happy tears. Greatest. Crew. Ever. Let no one forget the name ....Enterprise.

[@aarontalksculture4946]

The many endings were definitely necessary. Wrapping up 35 years of content can't be done quickly. I was laughing and streaming tears at the same time during that poker game. 😂😭😆

[@countluke2334]

And I was indeed happy we got that. Voyager was really the worst example on how not to wrap up 7 years.

[@ModestlyAmazing]

Also when Jack walks into the bridge and says set a course to the Matalas system 😂, Terry has earned his own system.

[@Ingram124]

Thank you Trek Culture, you never fail to knock it out of the part with these Ups and Downs. Picard Season 3 has been absolutely outstanding, we can only hope the powers that be at Paramount are watching the reaction and they give us that Enterprise G spin off with Seven, Rafi and co... Give us more TNG era trek and give us more Terry Matalas, you sir have done an exceptional job with your team so thank you!

[@DX2069]

This ending was so freaking good and there has to be something that we don’t know cause they set up an enterprise g show far too well for us to not get it it. They must be planning something honestly! And I am so here for it I think we all are! Only thing I am upset about is why didn’t we see Janeway? They name dropped her like 10 times this season…so weird idk lol

[@robertdrexel2043]

Yeah, I just remembered something. Last year at Phoenix Fan Fusion I was in the audience during Kate Mulgrew's huge spotlight panel she did there, and she did mention something about coming back to live action Janeway but it was all hush-hush. I would expect that would be a cameo in this season. Huh. Wondered why they didn't go for that?

[@antonnurwald5700]

​@@robertdrexel2043 well, maybe because something else is in the works. I mean she could easily be a recurring character in a 7 show.

[@robertdrexel2043]

@@antonnurwald5700 Huh. A Cameo in the Star Trek Legacy show that is supposed to be in the works? Heh. That would work.

[@jpo7577]

The fire/shield effects when the E-D was blowing stuff up. The one scene that sticks out to me was the Cube exploding then watching the fire ball dissipate as the E-D was escaping. Amazing!

[@RickCfromCBR]

Tuvok and Seven always felt like they had similar introvert energy, which made them seem more comfortable around each other.

[@thecunninlynguist]

They were the best of buds in voyager

[@connorhorman]

@@thecunninlynguistPretty much, yeah.

[@daenerystargaryen6302]

I wish we would have seen Janeway instead.

[@tringuyen7519]

The Voyager theme playing as Tuvok rejects Seven’s resignation was incredibly moving!😭

[@thecunninlynguist]

​@@tringuyen7519I loved his resignation denied

[@teluas]

I'm not ashamed to admit I was an emotional hot mess throughout this entire episode - goosebumps, tears, cheers, and all combinations of the above. Hell, I even got the goosebumps and tears just watching this Ups And Downs! This entire season was absolutely brilliant, and a fantastic endcap to the the Trek I've spent most of my life watching and loving.

[@tlouiseallen9302]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💪🏼🙌🏼🖖🏼

[@newageBoundhippie]

the only thing that could have made me grin more with Q's return at the end would have been if he summoned his son to take over the "trial" to make it like the sons carrying on where the fathers left off ( plus with Seven as Captain, the potential hilarity of them meeting again as well as seeing how he's been dealing with Icheb's death could have been interesting ).

[@robertdrexel2043]

Honestly that would be cool, but I would loved to have seen Wesley appearing and meeting his half-brother for the first time.

[@newageBoundhippie]

@@robertdrexel2043 yeah that too. If Legacy does happen ( which it better lol ) I hope we get at least one Crusher bros episode

[@DZPianoMusic]

Maybe the framed picture that Jack put out for display in his quarters, of his parents dressed up, had a deeper meaning. I think THAT is the answer to the resolution of the Jean Luc + Laris story. Jean-Luc went after Beverly (as Laris told him to) and he found not only his Enterprise family, but his own as well.❤️😀

[@aaronharvey6992]

As a long-time Star Trek fan, I remember walking through an old music store before "The Next Generation" premiered, and they were playing the theme song in the background. I could not wait for the series to begin, but this episode did bring a tear to my eyes as I watched this chapter close and the next chapter possibly begin. Yes, there were a few writing issues, but they had to cram a lot of stuff into a 50-minute episode, so I guess I can give the writing a little wiggle room. The return of "Q" during the setup of "The New Generation" was absolutely amazing. This last season of Picard was outstanding. Thank you for your hard work, Paramount. Thank you, TrekCulture, for all of these "Ups and Downs" and the hard work that went into the production of these episodes. I can't wait for the second season of "Strange New Worlds" to begin.

[@thecunninlynguist]

I loved the end credits. 😢 brought a tear to my eyes. Playing the TNG theme in full was so heartwarming

[@ColwellMarcus]

I 100% agree with the latinum up. When i heard Anton Chekov, i said "there's the latinum up" as i shed a tear for Anton Yelchin

[@WraithW69]

I loved the episode & this season. at the end when the crew were goating Captain 7 for her line, engage etc, Jack says '"Writing the opening line to your Legacy" a great plug for Star Trek Legacy. & I was in tears when they played the full Next Generation Theme whilst circling overhead of the poker game, like they did at the end of All Goog Things. so many memories, so much fun. absolutely loved all 3 seasons. Thank you for the break downs Sean.