Ups & Downs From Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1.2 - Children of the Comet

[@ismike1982]

To quote Captain Janeway when she was talking about the 23rd Century, “they were a little slower to invoke the Prime Directive… and a little quicker to pull their phasers.”

[@DarthDesolous]

“And it would be a fun time to live in “from Incense Harry Kim.

[@Ulriquinho]

Yeah it didn’t feel out of step with TOS era prime directive interpretations.

[@balung]

Janeway over ruled the Prime Directive in the Omega Molecule episode.

[@RadzPrower]

Yeah, I see it as Pike's very cavelier attitude about it all. It'll be interesting to see if James Kirk is a green stickler for the rules in his appearance and it's his interactions with Pike that lead to his more cavelier attitude as well.

[@tribbledisco]

Love Janeway in this scene! “Of course, the whole bunch of them would be booted out of Starfleet today.” 😂

[@jimelihel]

What I liked about Uhuru’s journey in this episode was near the end when she was strongly discouraged from leaving Starfleet, just like Nichelle Nichols was discouraged - by MLK - from leaving TOS.

[@TheLisa-Al-Gaib]

That crossed my mind as well!

[@lainielooentertainment]

I disagree with the down for "breaking the prime directive." The Paradise Syndrome saw the Enterprise dispatched on a very similar mission- to deflect an asteroid that was on a collision course with a planet that housed a primitive culture. Since that was an actual mission objective and took place after this, it must be established that they can intervene in such situations. Pike actually offers that distinction when he speaks to the shepherds. (As a side note, the planet in The Paradise Syndrome was equipped with a means by which to save itself- placed there by a race that was shepherding it. This creates another parallel to this story. )

[@historybuff7491]

Agree

[@charlesstipes3726]

Was gonna mention this but you beat me too it! :)

[@matthiasbecker5064]

Also, its more "General Order 1" and not prime directive yet (as stated in the first episode). What actually constitutes "interfering with the evolution" has never been really defined (if i remember correctly) so their actions might very well been within established guidelines of Starfleet

[@cakeiseternal281]

Agree

[@MegapixelsofFun]

Exactly sorry Sean that's an UP!

[@michaelhall2709]

No one, Majel Barrett especially, thought Chapel was a well-developed character by modern standards, even during the Seventies. She was much happier playing Luwuxana Troi on TNG, and would no doubt be delighted (and maybe a little envious) with how Chapel has been re-envisioned in this show.

[@christopherlung9002]

The fact that chapel in strange new worlds makes chapel in the original look bad to me was a bad creative decision because of the discontinuity it creates. That being said the new character in strange new worlds is fantastic, I just think that they should have named the character after a famous geneticist, something like Crick which would be just like the naming of Stemets in discovery after a notable mycologist. But overall thus far I am liking the scripting and the episodic nature of the show.

[@kanaric]

The producers didn't like that she was on the show at all which is why it was hard to get her things to do.

[@michaelhall2709]

@@kanaric No. She was sleeping with the producer, i.e. Gene Roddenberry, which is why the Chapel character was on the show at all. It was the network that didn’t want her around.

[@nooneatall8072]

@@michaelhall2709 Wasn't it Lucille Ball (the owner of the studio that make TOS) who didn't want MB around? For the reason that mentioned - MB was sleeping with Roddenberry, who was married to someone else at the time. Ball was extra-sensitive to that kind of thing after her divorce from Desi Arnez just a couple of years before.

[@Ardenthios]

Majel Barrett was, sadly, a recipient of the prejudices of her era.

[@BluntyTV]

14:00 The subsequent hits to the shields after those 3 torpedoes were ICE from the comet trail, that's why the shields held up, the Aliens stopped firing for fear they'd hit their god-comet

[@all2easy1011]

and the fact they were re-routing power to the shields between hits.

[@andrewjohnson6716]

Exactly, they're just showing the ice hitting the shields which are no threat to the shields at all.

[@monitor1862]

I was going to point that out.

[@jrock32379]

Agreed. There's a lot more to shields and torpedo hits than the percentages. A stationary Enterprise receiving 3 direct hits gets a hefty knock to the shields, that immediately begin to regenerate. Every torpedo strike after is a glancing blow, with lesser drops in shield integrity accordingly. And the ice hits wouldn't even mildly reduce shield integrity.

[@paulsisk4986]

Incorrect. If you watch it again, right after Ortegas goes into her maneuver, the ship gets hit 8 or 9 times by torpedoes directly from the other ship, along with a few rocks, before getting in front of the comet and then the other ship stops firing.

[@jamesfoster9613]

The acting from Anson Mount during the dinner...the amount of emotion he expressed THEN SWALLOWED when he said 'where do you see yourself in 10 years' was brilliant. It deserves another up, honestly. I verbally 'oofed', which happened again when he named the cadets he saves in the future. As to Chapel flirting with Spock, we see them hanging out in the trailers, and I think this is a DELIBERATE and purposeful nod to the Naked Time and even Spock boarding the Enterprise in The Motion Picture (and I'm sure other scenes I'm not thinking of at the moment) where Chapel expresses affection or even love for Spock. Like, if she legitimately has a thing for him in this show (provided they also address the super creepy mentor she is engaged who is the 'villain' of What Little Girls are Made Of), it just adds context not only to her admission in The Naked Time but Spock's reaction (where he was also sick, and trying to resist likely latent feelings, all the more complicated as he was still engaged to T'Pring in that scene in TOS, and obviously has stronger feelings for his fiance now).

[@ljs2274]

They and them are a group of people. Him her are singular

[@jamesfoster9613]

@@ljs2274 incorrect but good to know we have transphobes watching this channel.

[@MadBiker-vj5qj]

@@ljs2274 'Thon' is the singular of 'they' and is useful where 'they' would cause ambiguity.

[@FairyFatale]

@@jamesfoster9613 There may be several things going on here: It’s not uncommon to use they/them until clarification can be made. As Gooding’s Uhura hasn’t self-identified to my knowledge, and most of us don’t have the ability to just ask the *character*, Seán might be choosing to avoid making the assumption. Why would he do that? Well, Gooding’s pronouns are she/they, and quite frankly, because *many* Trek fans often speak of a character and their actor simultaneously and/or interchangeably, it remains possible that Seán was speaking of Gooding and not Uhura, or speaking of actor and role together. Contextually, it might not be any more complicated than Seán referring to a group rather than a single person. IDK. It worked for me.

[@kyledrury6396]

My understanding of those “9 hits” is that they were fragments of the comet colliding with the Enterprise. They didn’t glow like torpedoes.

[@chrismason6857]

It was debris from the comet tail as they were flying behind it

[@billkeithchannel]

Exactly. I also would say that after that 50% hit more power from non-essential systems was used to reinforce the shields.

[@Linerunner99]

Chunks like that pose no threat to the shields any way. Even if shields were down the navigational deflectors would break those up as they hit.

[@robertantinone4902]

Is it my imagination or have we learned more about Uhura in just 2 episodes of Strange New Worlds than we did during the entirety of the original series and all of its follow up movies?

[@KR-bv5og]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Ethan Peck's Spock? The dude comes in and has instant chemistry with whoever he's sharing the scene with.

[@kaicreech7336]

Instant chemistry even though he has to present such a reserved front.

[@pglanville]

@@kaicreech7336 He's Vulcan.

[@kaicreech7336]

@@pglanville that's my point: he has a remarkably difficult role that he's making look very easy

[@lukesdoings7150]

He has definitely developed more like Nimoy Spock in this series than in Discovery. In his spirit that is. His mannerisms aren't quite like Nimoy's, but that's okay. I was a little worried about his performance then. I feel better about it now.

[@andrewjohnson6716]

Right? He is not only nailing his own character, but he constantly feeds his scene partners.

[@stevenjlovelace]

Completely disagree with the second down. The whole point is that the Prime Directive shouldn't mean letting civilizations die, even though that was shown several times in Berman-era Trek. This is one of those tweaks to canon that I really appreciate. Up from me for the same point.

[@KnightRaymund]

Absolutely. The PD was handled horribly in the TNG era.

[@Optimistprime.]

I get what you're saying but meddling is meddling.

[@gavinnewton4711]

I think when it comes to things that happen off planet should be exempt from the prime directive because from the civilisations point of view they probably won’t notice the influence until they reach warp capability. Unlike Into Darkness where there was a very clear exposure of the crew. They’re two vastly different scenarios. Going by the logic that has been applied for that down starfleet should have assisted Agnes’ collective at the end of picard because there’s the potential they are altering the course of undeveloped worlds in that sector

[@DavidBeddard]

I point to TOS Season 3 Episode 3 "The Paradise Syndrome". The same premise set several years later. Starfleet's non-intervention policy will remain much more flexible for quite some time after this point in Federation.

[@JamesCarterJr]

To be fair, Pike did tell the alien commander that Starfleet does not interfere with natural development but they don't allow them to die either. Right or wrong, that was his reasoning. Regarding the torpedo hits: the simple answer is that they hit different shield faces, giving the other ones time to recharge.

[@katherineberger6329]

Also, after the first few hits, where the Enterprise wasn't really moving, most of the hits were glancing ones - they didn't really take a full-on, square impact with the shields, so presumably less energy was used deflecting the explosion. It's a bit of an inconsistency, but one I certainly can live with.

[@TheKrstff]

If only Picard remembered that during Pen Pals.

[@wearwolf2500]

I think it would have worked if they were debating it and then they found the alien structure. Not a natural occurrence, we can intervene no problem, rest of the episode goes off like normal.

[@depreseo]

Well Piccard was all for saving them... But then data informed him that his own pal was a child - the arch enemy of early season TNG Piccard. XD

[@markelliott9737]

@@katherineberger6329 very true, not all torpedo hits are going to hit in the same way. A glancing hit is obviously going to drain less energy than a direct hit.

[@Gattancha]

Massive up from me was (and I actually cried out with "YES!" when it happened!) - The sustained phaser BEAM instead of the "Pew Pew Pew" style of phasers.

[@driftbandit4740]

Didn't you miss that from the last episode via Discovery Season 2 when both the Enterprise and Discovery faced off against the unmanned Section 31 ships under CONTROL? Seeing the Constitution Class firing at multiple targets while I'm stationary position was one of the highlights of the episode. It put a huge grin on my face kinda like Doctor Pholx.

[@Linerunner99]

Yeah the beam phasers are appropriate to the ship at the time this takes place so also an up from me. It's not until Wrath of Khan era, aka the Enterprise Class refit that the pew pews are installed.

[@JohnnyWednesday]

There appears to be a problem with the design of the bridge - how do the consoles function without being filled with exploding rocks?

[@CarlDavison]

The rocks were all used up in Disco

[@joermnyc]

The rocks don’t get installed until Tuesday.

[@MegapixelsofFun]

Well see the problem is when you hire engineers that don't feel the need to place explosives in the console and sparklers in the ceilings then the rock unions and sparkle producers all end up out of work and that is a down from me, how dare you cause unemployment in the Star Trek universe.

[@samwms2116]

@@joermnyc I was actually going to say that. Great minds think alike!

[@jackdubz4247]

Those are safety rocks.

[@DanDelzell]

The actors who portray the original series characters have nailed it. It's hard to step into roles that people love. These actors are amazing. Ethan Peck as Spock blows me away.

[@CraigH999]

Nurse Chapel as a character in this new series slapped me across the face. I was immediately mesmerized by her, and after one episode she's one character I'm looking forward to seeing a lot more about her.

[@Noble6233]

😒

[@stevedergamer5322]

Chapel is hot 😍

[@lukesdoings7150]

@@stevedergamer5322 And she can throw down while being super chill. Even hotter!

[@andrewjohnson6716]

She is bringing this really engaging charisma to the character!

[@mocknburd23]

I love her too, but I hope her involvement doesn't come at the expense of Dr. M'Benga, who we don't see in this episode at all.

[@jenniferwilliams9612]

I love the fact that in this series that they give Pike something to deal with in his heart. He is still the same character that we fell in love with during Disco season 2, but haunted by those experiences and his foreknowledge of his fate. It has shades of Babylon 5 too. The themes of fate, determinism, and inevitability. I have HIGH hopes for this show!

[@whitedragon7]

I'm in love with this show. Getting better and better!

[@ThePixelExpedition]

Two episodes in and I already want 7 seasons of this show. Absolutely brilliant and the feeling of ST that's been missing, for me, since Enterprise. Love it!

[@tonyhsloanejr]

I like this new ST. Has the format I remember. Episodic with a good moral message and family friendly. Good stuff!

[@Donnagata1409]

"Family friendly" indeed. 😒 OK, you can have that, but I still prefer DIS and PIC, like my Star Trek a little bit spicier.

[@tonyhsloanejr]

@@Donnagata1409 I like those too but it is nice to see a return to form. I like the episodic format. I feel like I am watching STTNG again just updated effects and a bitttttt more sex. But the sex isn't extreme so your kids can still watch it just close their eyes if needed for a sec.

[@RoodeMenon]

We get the challenge of the week, 50 minutes goes by at a brisk pace, Problem solved, Learn a lesson, bag em, tag em and move on to the next adventure. I love it! You can watch this with the kids! They should have done this in the first place. What were they thinking? Star Trek is back!

[@captaind6178]

"For the love of God don't tell Lucille Ball". Right there makes me want to fly to Ireland to meet you!!! Too funny.

[@lukesdoings7150]

I'm afraid I disagree with the Prime Directive when it comes to preserving life. I mean you don't have to reveal yourself to people who aren't ready for space travel. However, stopping a comet and saving lives really isn't interfering with their evolution. They cannot evolve if they are dead. Besides, why are they even out exploring space if they aren't motivated to help other species and/or gain mutual benefits from them. If humans have figured out how to get rid of disease, poverty, and war on Earth, wouldn't they want to tell the universe how they did it? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, they never mention if a malevolent or concurring race like the Klingons ever follow the Prime Directive. That would be a good idea for an episode or two. Cleaning up a disaster first contact from some bad guys. But I guess the first episode kinda did that.

[@wahn10]

"They cannot evolve if they are dead." Exactly.

[@susanscott8653]

To be fair, the Prime Directive is a story device to provide opportunities for thought provoking debate of rule based principles vs humanist principles, at least IMO. There should possibly have been a discussion in the conference room (which is vast BTW) though.

[@lukesdoings7150]

@@susanscott8653 And here we are discussing it. :) You make a good point about discussing the issue. That is one thing I've noticed throughout Trek: A very small group of people (bridge crew), make huge world impacting decisions. Kirk didn't even consult Starfleet when he decided to deposite Kahn on an uninhabited planet. no jury, no committee. lol! In the real world this would be debated and over analyzed by very large committee. But you can't take it too seriously.

[@cozmothemagician7243]

If an alien race had stopped the KT event we would not be here. T-rex would be president of Earth, and a alligator would be VP (; OTOH, maybe a alien race SENT that rock to wipe out the dinos just so little mammals could grow up to become a space traveling species. On the gripping hand... There is the 'fermi paradox' we seem to be totally alone... So spreading our own life throughout the universe is probably a good idea O_o

[@CreativeOne0829]

@@cozmothemagician7243 The KT was a mother fucker. But technically that's part of the planets evolution. And now we're using the internet and sipping on congac.. Imagine if Athea didnt hit Earth, but instead, it just side swiped earth, creating rotation and, well if you're smart enough to watch ST all your life. You should have a pretty good idea of Gen 1/PD.

[@eds8204]

Honestly felt this was an almost perfect episode for startrek. How could you not give an up for Spock laughing. It was so unexpected and perfect.

[@billkeithchannel]

Yeah disappointed in Sean for not acknowledging this at all.

[@chrisXeroforney]

I love this show, it's a warm hug from star trek that's been missing for a while. That being said, just did a rewatch, the initial hit by the shepherd's dropped the shields to 70%. That being said, love you guys keep up the great work!

[@darkguardian1314]

Prime Director issue: Data convinced Picard to interfere to save a world in the episode "Pen Pals"... The point is that a nonspace-faring species with a space based threat can be saved as long as the population doesn't know about it. Also, The Preservers have been known to leave devices to protect worlds.

[@erasure25]

I think the issue is too messy to not have at least had a line in there from Number 1 about "hey Cap, is this a Prime Directive issue?". Moving a comet that was clearly visible to the native population, are we going to create another visible bright light in the sky situation, what if we push the comet to a new orbit that crashes into another planet 100 years from now that it would never had along its current trajectory... yada yada. It warrants at least a mention of the PD instead of sheer silence.

[@DavidTShaw]

@@erasure25 "moving" the comet is probably not too noticeable from the planet surface - only a small change in trajectory would be needed. Now, the rockets firing might have been a different matter...

[@AzaleaJane]

Picard's behavior in that episode still appalls me. He's content to let a species die that they could save without interfering, and it takes an android to get him to do the humane thing.

[@edkwon]

What I really like about Pike's character arc dealing with an accepting his fate, and knowing he will save the lives of those future cadets, makes it even more heartbreaking when it inevitably happens and why in TOS, Spock knowing Pike's fate as well, will do everything including risking his Starfleet career and betraying Kirk, to help a crippled Pike return to the Telosian planet to live his final days in happy well deserved respite

[@they_call_me_yeeter]

Talosians, but the sentiment is true.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

It’s kind of wild that this remake of an episode with a thrown together kind of idea is now the bases for what looks to be Star Treks comeback.

[@stevekendra8983]

What I enjoy so far in this series: I love that they melded the episodic nature of TOS and TNG but have actual character development (which said series didn't do too well). Now it's only 2 episodes in but I'm liking what I see so far.

[@CarlDavison]

Absolutely loving Uhura, the whole show is fantastic.

[@josecarrales2842]

It is possible to adhere to canon and tell new stories. A lot of stuff happened before, in between and after TOS episodes. That is a rich mine to explore. Canon is not an obstacle, it is a guide. Why people can't see that...can't embrace that (looking at you Shives....) is beyond me.

[@CarlDavison]

@@josecarrales2842 They have not really strayed that far from canon with Uhura as there is a lot we don't know about her past or the years before Kirks captaincy. She does portray her well though, as a cadet and greenhorn learning where she fits in.

[@danrozful]

She's great in the role.

[@andrewjohnson6716]

I'm really happy that they gave us a Cadet Uhura as the point-of-view character. She's showing the excitement, fear, doubt, and triumph that we would all feel in those situations. (Also, in the original series Lieutenant Uhura and Spock have a close and respectful friendship and we get to see that develop.)

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

@@andrewjohnson6716 It never occurred to me or just didn’t yet that she was the point of view character.

[@Heymrk]

This might be a kind of macabre reference, but after Uhura talked about her parents dying, she said, "And my older brother." In 1997, Nichelle Nicholls' brother Thomas was part of the Heaven's Gate cult that believed an angel in the tail of the Hale-Bopp Comet would rapture them away. He died in their mass suicide. They even referred to themselves as "Children of the Comet."

[@greggstrasser5791]

That would make this episode even MORE pathetic:

[@SamriBliss]

Oh wow- that sent me down a rabbit hole. It was her younger brother per wikipedia but still …

[@balung]

Heavens Gate cult members even referred to the mission to the Hale Bop Comet as an 'away mission.'

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

That’s some weird and spooky shit that will be on some sharp retro KZbinrs review video in 20 years, inspiring conspiracy theories.

[@alejandronopasanada5302]

@@greggstrasser5791 How so?

[@mpsmith47304]

The Prime Directive does not mean they cannot interfere at all. There are several episodes in TOS where they interfere in such a manner. The issue is interfering with the development of the culture.

[@CRanapia]

That's an interesting point - and it does beg the question whether the Federation interfered with the natural evolution of Klingon culture when it initiated as massive aid effort to mitigate the environmental effects of the Praxis disaster on Qo'noS. I guess the most obvious response is that it certainly caused less social harm than that of an apocalyptic war between the Federation and a massively destabilized and desperate Klingon Empire.

[@balung]

Capt Janeway over ruled the Prime Directive in the Omega Molecule episode.

[@michaelmcmahan2368]

@@balung The Omega Directive overrules everything. The Omega molecule can destroy subspace making warp drive useless. That is why she tossed the Prime Directive to the side.

[@luminaire4946]

Until the 24th century when the federation went insane.

[@danielfranz6560]

maybe it was just me but I think it was the first song they had Uhra sounded like something that came out of the movie "Close Encounters"

[@leedavidson4405]

you missed the nod to the episode in which Kirk tries to get into the obelisk that repels the asteroids and gets zapped. Later they figured out that it was the music of him calling the ship that opened the door

[@EphPhaThaINC]

I also liked Spock’s laugh at the end where he finally acknowledges the callback about “when things were so bad, sometimes that you have to just laugh”.

[@billkeithchannel]

You get an up.

[@jeffreyrobinson6988]

The tone and cadence of Ethan Peck's voice sounds very much like his granddaddy Gregory Kudos to him. I hope it brings him as much success

[@JohnnyWednesday]

I didn't know that until reading your comment - that's pretty cool

[@JB-1138]

Spock is related to Gregory Peck? That's pretty cool.

[@ronleight9341]

I seriously doubt that it will bring him an Oscar though! Lol

[@Scipio488]

If only it sounded very much like Spock, the character he's supposed to be playing.

[@jeffreyrobinson6988]

@@Scipio488 I think Leonard Nimoy sounded more like Gregory Peck than his grandson does.

[@cartoonkelly7924]

I cannot express how much I am at home when I watch this show.

[@Nergalsama01]

So...two good episodes so far. I hope the rest of the season can keep the momentum going. I like the mix of self-contained plots-of-the-week and ongoing character development.

[@Comedy4cast]

UP to the special effects team, as usual, but especially for that amazing sequence of shots of the Big-E navigating through the asteroid field. I don't think we have ever seen the Enterprise do anywhere near as much actual on-screen evading. And it did not go unnoticed that collisions with the rocks produced shields shimmers, just like weapons fire would. Great stuff!

[@christopherstephenjenksbsg4944]

Regarding Spock's butting into Uhura's conversation with Hemmer, I suggest a new piece of jargon for Star Trek: "Spocksplaining."

[@ScoundrelLB]

Just my two cents, but when Kirk gets demoted in Star Trek - Into Darkness, I was under the impression that it was because he broke the prime directive by exposing the ship to the primitive people of Nibiru (which he did in order to save Spock) and for falsifying the mission report, but not for saving the people from the volcano. Otherwise, I think there would have been a lot more clamor from the crew from the very start about breaking the prime directive, and there wasn't.

[@thatgaymerguyb5275]

The camera moved through the comet tail like it does in the DS9 opening credits how did you not see this right away!

[@kadosho02]

That moment was incredible. They definitely put it there for a reason

[@tetravega567]

And part of the name, Quentin reminded me of Quinn from Voy.

[@knarf247]

it has been wonderful watching you grown on this Channel. i find myself looking forward to each of your videos. thanks for the great content, and for being you.

[@cakeiseternal281]

So, about General Order 1/The Prime Directive. It hadn't really taken shape completely at this point. Memory Alpha says: A complicated order, the Prime Directive had 47 sub-orders by the latter part of the 24th century. (VOY: "Infinite Regress") However, a high-level summary was "no identification of self or mission; no interference with the social development of said planet; no references to space, other worlds, or advanced civilizations." I would say saving a whole planet whose inhabitants weren't aware of Starfleet or other civilizations, and wouldn't know that the comet's path had been changed, is justifiable. Plus, we all know everyone disobeys GO1/TPD all the time! I think people have to make decisions they can live with, and watching a whole civilization perish would not be one any leader should be able to live with.

[@loganmiller2344]

Also, this wasn't just on the level of nuclear war or even the disaster that killed the dinosaurs, based on the simulation shown, this would exterminate effectively all life on the planet. It wouldn't leave anything left to "evolve"

[@mnpa6154]

Yes, for the purposes of the plot, of course the captain *should* interfere. But, it was done without contemplation. Any time Janeway, Picard, etc. violated GO1, they did so with a heavy heart. The issue didn't even come up here. Also, the Order isn't worded such that interference is ok so long as nobody on the planet notices. It's about interference, period. Furthermore, while the 'Prime Directive' wasn't codified until later, General Order 1 still existed at that time.

[@mnpa6154]

@@loganmiller2344 And what about any civilizations that this civilization might have an effect on? What if they end up being responsible for wiping out another race, but they weren't 'supposed to' because they would have themselves been wiped out by the comet?

[@travisfoster1071]

@@loganmiller2344 God, I wish that would happen to Earth....

[@Sagitarria]

Agreed social development isn’t the same thing as survival.

[@robgoffroad]

The part with Ortega's piloting skills reminded me of the Orville episode where they were getting shield upgrades from the Maclans and Gordy was flying so well that had had to "dumb it down" so they could actually get HIT to test those shields.

[@startrekiborg]

I was waiting to hear “Close Encounters of the Third Kind” when Uhura was singing to the Alien object.

[@jasontoddman7265]

Me too. Just rewatched it today on DVD and as before that was the very first thing that popped into my head.

[@nikoals777]

That moment Spock was holding the tricorder, kneeled beside Kirk. Turned aroud and looked at La'an. Who else said aloud " He's dead Jim" ?

[@johnharris3657]

Haha. I did exactly that! But then I realized Sam Kirk can't die until Operation Annihilate. I also loved the joke about, how do like the mustache? Knowing that Sam in TOS was just Shatner with a mustache.

[@Hidden-Force]

"That's very reminiscent of the way -Boba Fett- the _Millennium Falcon_ hides behind the Star Destroyer in _The Empire Strikes Back_ ." 🤣Whoops! Nice recovery, though. I'm sure _no one_ noticed. 😉

[@DeronJ]

That accidental/on purpose error gave me a good laugh.

[@hublanderuk]

Thanks I was wondering what Sean said. How can he not remember the Millennium Falcon the ship that did the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs 😀

[@danielpaquet3963]

I love that Pike has his crew over for supper like Sisco does

[@ThorsHammer1]

How did you miss the GOLDEN EASTER EGG that Uhura is the FIRST REDSHIRT to survive an away mission?!

[@travisfoster1071]

Yeah, usually red shirts are goners within minutes of appearance.

[@billkeithchannel]

Sean has really dropped the ball on this episode on many things. They even had to "fix in post" him calling the Millennium Falcon something different when he recorded it.

[@katrose5179]

@@billkeithchannel Millennium Falcon. Not Millennial.

[@billkeithchannel]

@@katrose5179 Stupid spell check changed it.

[@StarFleet_Tech1701]

Star Trek is back. I am back in my Star Trek world.

[@danielHL824]

Well to be fair they took the first salvo head-on, most of the others were partial hits taken during evasive maneuvers. Also maybe someone put emergency power to the shields, reversed the polarity, set SCE to AUX or something else ;-)

[@CarltonAbas]

They were also running on impulse power. Warp power could be diverted to the shields

[@brianbohn2658]

I was thinking the same thing. Also, someone pointed out elsewhere in the comments that some of those hits might have been chunks of the comet's tail and not weapon's fire.

[@illyth63]

Set SCE to AUX: nice 👍

[@richardgelber2740]

@@illyth63 Outstanding Apollo 12 reference!

[@adriankiwi8430]

After every tv show I watch I pretty much have to come here to watch these videos which makes it even more fun. After every show they might as well link to you. Hehe. Keep up the great work. It's very entertaining and enhances the TV shows

[@kriss_b]

Ok I want to know what Sean called the millennium falcon that caused the the Kris edit save (you still have his back)

[@Hidden-Force]

Boba Fett

[@mphmph1198]

Check out Anson Mount's hair, especially in Episode 2. They had to raise the ceiling on set just to accommodate it.

[@0errab0]

I can't believe how much I'm enjoying this iteration of Star Trek, so far so Great!

[@Parker-Green]

There were 3 torpedo hits and the rest were the shields deflecting bits of the comet…the dialogue even directly has them stating that the alien ship had stopped firing.

[@joshuaeverett9887]

External threats to a prewarp civilization are often treated differently from internal threats, especially when the civilization in question has no way of detecting the interference. For example, the Prime Directive as written would allow interference such as diverting a comet, but typically not allow diverting a hurricane, as the first action does not violate any part of General Order 1, section 1, which is the relevant statute, and only applies to direct or tangential contact with the society, though not even applicable when the existence of the Federation can be logically deduced from the actions taken if no direct contact is made. Starfleet JAG Corps, here I come! I would watch the heck out of Law & Order: Starfleet!

[@robertagren9360]

The prime directive is to prevent kidnapping. Aliens not part of the federation ending up on federation ships and planets writing that aliens took their life stock or themselves were taken by aliens. Or changing a specie evolution that they become xenophobes or end up changing by the presence of humanity that they adapted to it like example domestic dogs evolved hanging ears. Eradication of species because they saw one nature killing the other is messing up with the ecosystem as it rely on a diversity and result is a change of planet ecosystem in which the intelligent carnivore creature was killed to save the prey specie who result the death of both. A comet is not part of the ecosystem, a dying sun is not part of the planet life cycle. An alien interaction resulting into involvement of natives is not a violation as the federation is responsible for its jurisdiction. The prime directive is that planets and its species are to be kept as they are unless the federation want to permanent settle the planet. There must be hierarchies and ability to negotiate and the interaction to be temporary if not met with the prime directive. Crew not part of the federation are considered permanent crew of the ship and violation of the prime directive as the federation permanent presence can't be denied.

[@adamgoss3638]

*Hemmer catches carrot* Uhura: How did you do that? Hemmer: I'm a really good lawyer.

[@joejohn7835]

I far as I remember the shields have several separate generators and Ortega was moving the ship to avoid being hit in the main saucer section. They were losing the forward shields, but the shields were at full capacity for the other parts of the ship. I am assuming that tis is the case.

[@jblyon2]

That is the case in most depictions of the shields. They're deployed in arcs around the ship which can have differing strengths/levels.

[@artemisiatheta7549]

You are correct. There's shield emitters embedded across the ship and moving the way she had the Enterprise moving, Ortegas spread out the damage to the shield.

[@andrewjohnson6716]

Agreed. She's trying to spread the damage out over as many emitter arcs as possible. On that note, I love how as soon as Pike takes the reins off Ortega she shows how to use 360 degree space.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

One needs only look at Majel Barret's own opinion on nurse chapel - she thougtht the character sucked, that she was pretty much there to pine over spock and look pretty while doing it.

[@AllenorLP]

I had another problem, and that was in the beginning, that Uhura said, she was just a few miles from that place Pike visited. Kenia uses metric, the Federation uses metric, Starfleet uses metric, it's KILOMETERS!

[@mnpa6154]

But regardless of a country's measurement system, if it's English-speaking, there's a chance that 'miles from' is still a common phrase, due to cultural ancestry from the British Commonwealth. For example, in Canada, miles are not used for measuring long distances (except for railways), but you'll commonly hear 'miles away', 'miles from', 'a couple of miles', etc., but in every other situation we use kilometers. So, since this crew are speaking English, they will have British-isms baked into their lingo, so it's perfectly plausible she would use such a phrase.

[@pglanville]

Are you serious with this comment?

[@johnbockelie3899]

Well, since Uhura is an expert on alien languages, maybe she also knows both standard and metric measures.

[@anlumo1]

@@johnbockelie3899 You definitely need to be an expert in alien measurement systems to be able to handle the imperial units.

[@johnbockelie3899]

@@anlumo1 how about English weight systems , instead of pounds, as in weight , they say stones or something like that. " I'm cadet Uhura, sir. I know thirty seven alien languages, and all the distances , and weights and measures across the galaxy." " Great, cadet, welcome aboard the Enterprise !!".

[@Ulriquinho]

“Watch the planet go boom” over an asteroid is a dumb ass interpretation of the prime directive that never sat well with me in TNG/DS9/VOY trek. Honestly, I am 100% okay with retconning this. Plus TOS played much more fast and lose with with the prime directive and makes sense with this era’s interpretation of it anyway. Definitely not deserving of a down.

[@saladfingersasmrparty9768]

Discovery, as much as some complain about it, did begin with Burnham and Georgiou covertly saving a pre-warp civilization from a would-be fatal drought. I admired that.

[@erasure25]

I get what you're saying, but it makes playing god part of Starfleet's charter, and it most certainly should not be. The Voyager episode about aligning with the Borg to defeat Species 8472 meant that the Borg was able to destroy another civilization because the Borg was no longer preoccupied with its war with Species 8472. That episode, while not a Prime Directive episode, is illustrative of what can happen when Starfleet chooses who lives and who dies.

[@Thaleios]

@@erasure25 That could be said of anything though really. I don't see life as black and white and I don't think these types of situations should be viewed that way either. You will always have some consequence in making decisions or even not making a decision. It's still a choice. I personally would have the senior crew come to a consensus but I wouldn't just draw a line and say nope we can't do anything period.

[@Optimistprime.]

@@Thaleios I get what you're saying but to me the PD is also away of keeping Starfleet or the UFP out of constant ramifications of making choices. Because making choices have consequences good or bad. Even Picard pointed out that no matter how good the intentions, things will often go bad. Ie the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@Thaleios]

@@Optimistprime. Yeah, if I was a captain, I'd be more like Picard but not to the point that I would blindly follow orders. It would be on a case by case basis, at least imo. 🙂

[@JB-1138]

When Pike is looking at the names of the people he will save he realizes they are all children. And that he has many years left. At least that's how I interpret it.

[@The0mega79]

Or, some kids are going to have a REALLY interesting field trip.

[@Knightfall182]

He knows exactly when it happens, so he already knew the years left

[@susanscott8653]

@@Knightfall182 and he also knows they are cadets. Though I am surprised how much he knew from such a quick flash of his future which itself was traumatic.

[@michaelmcmahan2368]

With that being said, since you know it's going to happen in a training sim....When you get the duty assignment for the sim with those people, FIND A REASON TO DELAY IT. But that would change ST as we know it. Not that I would be mad about Pike going on as captain. NOT looking for to having the VD's taking over as Kirk.

[@TobysKpopTop50]

Was it just me or did anyone else catch the nod to Voyager when they called the comet Quinton, referencing Quinn the Q trapped in the comet

[@johncovert447]

I saw nods to two other Star Trek episodes: first is the Enterprise episode where Hoshi was questioning her decision to stay in space, just as Uhura was questioning her star fleet future. Second was the ds9 episode with the 3 Cardassian female scientists and the comet broken into 3 pieces being predicted in Bajoran texts.

[@jackkenefick2696]

A bit convenient that they stumbled on the complex communication of "lower your deflector shields" musical motif so quickly?

[@SteveTheDeathStarGunner74]

@18:17 "THE MILLENIUM FALCON" overdub... what happened, what did Sean say the first time before you all hastily edited it? xD

[@JessieMassoudi]

Boba Fett

[@sundancer996]

Oh, was it just me, or were they doing the Close Encounters bit when she first started a musical dialog with the comet ship? The same tones as they did when they first started playing the five notes to the alien ship, and then it answered back?

[@Keitek]

I assumed the torpedoes were hitting different shield sections. TNG would often say forward shields down to 70% and aft shields down to 85%. Plus maybe Pike's crew is smart enough to "divert power to shields" to give them a boost without the Captain telling them.

[@MajorMagna]

My thing with shields is, I don't think their "strength" is at a 1:1 ratio with the damage they have taken, we see that even though shields are at 70%, the hull took SOME damage, what if the percentage of their strength is not only "are they up" but also related to damage "bleedthrough"? Not saying that at, say 50% strength, they only negate 50% of the damage, but it's feasable that the weaker a shield is, the less damage it can block at that time. Also, who says the first hit that took them down to 70% was the same type of torpedos they fire later?

[@antares67]

When Spock and Uhura were humming, I felt it sounded more like the rhythm from Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

[@historybuff7491]

I liked Uhura's humming. I think at the Captain's dinner it was a bit forced, but was needed for the comet scenes. Actually later than that. Uhura breaking into song...I mean humming, relates directly back to TOS, but also allows the Away Team to communicate with the Comet. But more importantly, allows the Comet to communicate with Enterprise. I believe this was 2 fold. It contacted Enterprise as if to say, I know you are OK; and to assure Enterprise that the Away Team was OK, all encapsulated in Uhura's folk song she kept humming.

[@charlesajones77]

As someone who hums incessantly all the time, often without even realizing it (and have had people remark on it in public) it didn't sound forced to me :) What DID sound forced was her laughing at Pike's story. I got the impression that was the intention though.

[@bryanfoster362]

I would have liked to hear her hum "The Moon is a Window to Heaven" from ST:V

[@historybuff7491]

@@charlesajones77 Go point on the humming, and I thought the same on the laughing.

[@billkeithchannel]

The notes Uhura hummed was similar but not exact to the notes used in Close Encounters and parodied in Moonraker. But the same concept of using notes to communicate with alien life.

[@claudecall]

It's also how the alien in the book Project Hail Mary communicated, but after the first chapter or so of his deciphering the notes, it was just taken for granted rather than explained repeatedly.

[@BlackHedgehog]

I just love this show is being the Trek we asked for, downs included. Oh and can we talk about the phaser being A PHASER and not pew pew pew? Also wow I couldn't even see those models! Which as far as ups and downs . . . has TrekCulture done ups and downs for older shows? If not I'd love a Retro Ups and Downs.

[@MikeDuff63]

I agree about the lighting of the ships in space, love the look of the enterprise, but it's hard to see.

[@BlackHedgehog]

@@MikeDuff63 Oh no I was referring to the NX-01 model Sean pointed out. It's as white as the background that you can't even properly make the shape out.

[@Alterator76]

Don't know if someone else mentioned all of this - but so, basically, Uhura is just Hoshi Sato? Speaks tons of languages (never really brought up in TOS or the movies), can learn languages very quickly, is very nervous actually doing Starfleet Officer-type things, doesn't know if Starfleet is for her, etc. etc.? And Nurse Chapel is just absolutely amazing and should be a full doctor with what she does. And I guess M'Benga screws up and gets demoted by the time McCoy shows up. And Spock is apparently a Soong-type android without an emotion chip, not a human/vulcan trying to deny his emotions. And the Chief Engineer is blind... hmm, why does that seem familiar. And there are replicators. And the ship is HUGE. And the transporters can change your clothes, and give you an injection. And Sam Kirk, what the. And Spock works with a Singh, but doesn't know who Khan is, what the. Dangit, there is SO MUCH good stuff in this show, I'm serious here - much of the acting is great, the plots are good so far, it "feels" good. But it also feels like someone really set this show up well, and then the EPs came in an "Kurtzman-ized" it. Ugh.

[@CLBarr]

The comet already predetermined that the Enterprise would “interfere” with the comet thus making General Order 1/Prime Directive inconsequential.

[@DMSProduktions]

Cha-CHING!

[@mattsmith1859]

Best pure Star Trek episode in years! More please!

[@locutuspicard1]

Not mincing words here, I genuinely loved this episode of SNW. After the pilot, which left me with a very sour taste in my mouth for a number of reasons, I was a bit wary of this one. Glad I gave it a chance though, because this was undoubtedly the most truly Star Trek episode we have had since the days of Enterprise. That said, there was a bit of a down for me early in the episode, and that was Uhura's comment of "I've been raised to help those with sensory impairments," or something to that effect. I'm blind, and to be honest, I find it immensely frustrating when people automatically assume I need help because of my lack of sight. Now of course, I'm not saying that I don't hesitate to ask for help if I need it, and I'm sure there are people out there with different impairments that may need more or less help than me in any given situations. My point, however, is that if we need help, we ask for it. Assuming that we need assistance purely because of a sensory impairment is a persistent and rather frustrating societal tick in our times, and one which I would hope would have been corrected by the 23rd century. Aside from this though, I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, and really hope SNW continues to boldly take Star Trek toward a future that seemed largely lost in the last five years.

[@billkeithchannel]

I have sight but drop things (like a micro USB) that seem to fall into a void in the floor and can't be found. It is interesting that this character has white hair. My sister has albinism and is legally blind since birth.

[@fivestar5897]

Spock interceding for Uhura is because she knows and trusts him, she's not yet met the new chief engineer

[@leomonaghan3933]

And...shooting down your 3rd "down". As to the Shields vs the Shepards... How about the idea that the security officer was actually good at her job and was making modifications to the shield modulation based upon her analysis of each weapon hit, thus tuning them to be progressively more effective against each subsequent attack? This was actually shown (to some degree) in the fact that the first hit took "50%" from the shields while each subsequent hit that was declared had progressively less impact upon them.

[@TheSuperSnake313]

Another intriguing episode, thought the music theory part was great, finally some good writing in "New Trek" Captain Pike has been such a good captain so far, absolutely love his style and how he treats/interacts with his crew

[@Aezetyr]

I totally hate the take on the PD that a crew must let millions of people die needlessly when there is a way to save them. I think the PD is best used as a *guideline* and not a dogmatic rule. It's the same reason I DESPISE "Dear Doctor"; not just because of the PD, but also how they utterly butchered the science of Evolution... but that is a different problem for a different time.

[@adamchaplin9702]

Id love to see pike go up against 24th century admirals with a "how stupid are you" argument.

[@123ricardo210]

Agreed. Rules are never fully absolute. Only a Sith deals in absolutes :P

[@The0mega79]

Agreed. SFdebris was right, by the 24th century the PD kinda became dogma. Check out his review for "Dear Doctor," he has a few... interesting theories.

[@Aezetyr]

@@The0mega79 Oh yes, I've seen that review a number of times. I agree with his views greatly on the PD and many other Trek topics. I love his channel, so much great content.

[@darkguardian1314]

Cetacean Observation: Uhura's space suiti is the same color theme and chest pattern as TOS space suits in episode "The Tholian Web."

[@halfdollar1]

You really had to dig for those downs. This series is the best Star Trek since Enterprise

[@stevedergamer5322]

The best Trek since Lower Decks and Prodigy ☝🏻

[@JeffinIC]

The comet reminded me of Yonada from "For the World is Hollow..." in TOS. A more-or-less hollow ball that, from the outside, looks like a natural spatial anomaly, and has a small structure on it that accesses the interior.

[@ElTurfStuff]

9 hits in different areas of the shields. In Trek, the ships have shown the abilities to shore up the shields using additional power and reserves. In addition, the ships shields aren't like a brick wall that gets knocked down. They can recharge, albeit not quickly, but evasion gives them the chance to do so.

[@mrcoryman1]

I believe they can rotate them as well, if they don't have time to repair/recharge them and as long as they're not taking fire from too many directions at once.

[@CyclopsWasRight616]

it's a small thing, but having the shot go back to the planet and watching the joy as the rain started was the best part of this for me. it just feels like the kind of thing most sci-fi shows wouldn't take the time for.

[@jeremyjohnsonMWN]

Pulsating heads on the aliens... I swear this is an easter egg from the Star Trek pilot. It has to be.

[@Sagitarria]

How did the computer know which names he was referring to at the end. How many Andrea Lopez’ are there in the federation

[@davidellis1929]

I don't think altering the comet's course would violate General Order One. That doesn't seem to interfere with the natural evolution of the people on Persephone, at least as long as they don't know who did it.

[@shonbrown2947]

An aspect of this episode that i liked was when Uhura mentions that she may not want a career in starfleet and everyone looked at her like she's crazy

[@lunarpollen]

My biggest gripe... Once they discover that the retrofitted torpedoes are stopped by the comet's shield, and that the shield activates only in response to a perceived threat, and that transporters would still work, their next brainstormed idea is to beam an away team on board. Why wasn't the next step to try directly beaming another batch of the thrusters that they previously tried delivering via torpedoes to the surface of the comet?

[@Nergalsama01]

And, connected to that, that Hemmer just wasn't in the episode anymore after the initial plan failed. :/

[@mike-vo8im]

I sometimes wonder if Sean has ever watched Star trek. I can't count how many times a star fleet captain has disregarded the prime directive. It's like they took a page from captain Barbosa's book. "The prime directive is more of what you would say more guidelines than actual rules".

[@cblord5]

What’s with the Millennium Falcon loop?

[@adamgoss3638]

Also I am wondering if we'll ever get mention of Chapel's engagement to Roger Korby who, according to the timeline, is going to disappear after his mission to Exo-III in just a couple of years

[@michaelwells4609]

If they ever show him on screen, they need to hire Christopher Waltz. He would be perfect casting.

[@Lndwdr]

We’ve learned more about this crew in just two episodes than in previous Trek iterations! It’s awesome.

[@poneill65]

One way they COULD have handled the prime directive issue is to have the Enterprise discover the technology on the comet first and then the potential impact. There may be a case for protecting the planet IF the impactor is not a natural event

[@HLR4th]

Or the debate that they can’t redirect the comet since it appears natural, then noticing power/signals/structure on the surface, indicating it is artificial , not natural, so they can/should redirect. It would have been a nice balance of respecting the Prime Directive (after trashing it last week with cause) yet then being able to act. It also would have shown Spock’s scanners are doing their job!

[@unvergebeneid]

Jess Bush as Nurse Chapel brings so much character and presence to this role that basically the moment we first see her she had me 100% convinced that this would be an amazing upgrade to this character. Obviously the more the show progressed, the more depth there was for her to work with but just the dorky mischievous joy she emanates alone already makes her one of my favourite characters in this all-round amazing ensemble cast.

[@gatehouseauthor]

I have to voice my disagreement regarding the Prime Directive stretching in this episode. First, they literally just invented it (or codified it) last episode, prior to that it was General Order 1. All it said was you can't interfere with the natural development of a pre-warp society. You mentioned the Kelvin timeline, but that's a different situation. They were reprimanded only because the natives actually saw the Enterprise. Spock even brings up while they're being reprimanded that there would have been no issue if the natives hadn't seen the ship. Pike calls that a technicality, and Spock says he's a Vulcan, and they embrace technicality. That implies that if they'd saved the planet without being seen, it would have stretched but not broken the Prime Directive. In Next Generation, the episode we met Worf's brother, the issue there was that the only way to save that culture was to literally move them to another planet, which was done without their knowledge or permission. That's clearly breaking the rules. In Enterprise, the episode I can remember that involved breaking the Prime Directive (or the Vulcan policy of non-interference) involved a culture that had already been exposed to other warp capable races, and so they were able to meet them. But then it's Doctor Phlox, not the T'Pol, who objects to helping them. Rummaging through my memory, I don't recall any specific instances in any of the Star Trek series that prohibit something like, say, diverting a comet that's about to impact a planet, so long as doing so would not involve giving a pre-warp culture knowledge of space travel. The Prime Directive only applies to influencing the natural development of a culture, not with preventing the extinction of one. I can't find any on screen canon instances where the Prime Directive was invoked in order to stop them from preventing a natural catastrophe, so long as preventing that natural catastrophe would not expose that culture, even indirectly, to knowledge of aliens or technology beyond their own capabilities. I could definitely be wrong, as my knowledge is not total, but I did some spot checking on the Trek sites, and still couldn't find any.

[@Nergalsama01]

Agreed. That's one thing that even Discovery got right in its first season, when Burnham and Georgiou were on a pre-warp planet, making sure that the local inhabitants received access to enough water to survive. Non-interference is one thing, but simply letting an entire species die when you have the means to help without revealing yourself is quite another. I was really happy to see that SNW went down that road, as well.

[@mnpa6154]

Development doesn't mean forward progress. Development of a population/species/civilization simply means how it changes over time, so it unfortunately includes extinction. So if GO1 says you can't interfere with the natural development of a pre-warp civilization...if it's heading for extinction (naturally), then it's heading for extinction.

[@williamlim9066]

I would just add that Picard twice was willing to let an entire planet die because of the Prime Directive before he was ultimately talked (forced?) out of it: Sarjenka's planet and Worf's brother's planet.

[@gatehouseauthor]

@@williamlim9066 Both those incidents were cases where the catastrophe couldn't be averted without Starfleet revealing themselves. I already mention the one about Worf's brother. The incident with Sarjenka, they did eventually figure out how to save them without revealing themselves, but the contamination had already occurred because Data broke the Prime Directive by talking to her over radio. They erased her memory in order to keep it as a stretch of the PD instead of a break. It was a very different situation than this episode. I think there's more canon that says what happened in SNW is allowed than there is that says it's not.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

TNG treated the Prime Directive like a religious doctrine. "Oh we can't interfere, what if we change things...no no, far better the noble savages die pure and innocent like slightly retarded children than get sullied." But kinda hard to keep their culture 'surviving' if they all up and die, innit. If there was a big fire in the Amazon, we wouldn't just sit back and go, "No no, let the indigs burn." We'd go in, god-sky-chariots and all and save their asses. they might bitch about it, and complain about it. But they'd be _alive_ to do so. Would their culture change? No doubt. But it would adapt. A culture is not a static unchanging thing afterall. As Britons changed after each successive invasion, going from woad-wearing druid-worshipppers, to Roman citizens, to Norman vassals to a gallant Empire of it's own wit a spiffing navy, wot. They kept things, tossed some things aside, lost things. But they continued onward.

[@phillipkenewell2225]

Observation: The space suits depicted have a panel on the front that looks very similar to the spacesuits in TOS. I loved that little detail!

[@phillbt]

I'm afraid I'm going to have to Down your Down! I think the whole point of this story is that the comet is a metaphor for the idea that sometimes interfering is also part of the "natural evolution" of something.

[@attrition0]

The comet knows it will lose a part of itself and help a civilization. Pike knows he will lose a part of himself and help the cadets. Keeping in mind he doesn't literally die in the accident, I think him looking up the cadets he will save is solidifying his decision (and we do know in canon that he follows through with his fate). Great way of tying everything together.

[@Tylergube616]

18:18 I'm curious to what was dubbed over lol.

[@TrekCulture]

Sean accidentally said Boba Fett, instead of the Falcon. Boba was wise to that move because Obi-Wan did it to Jango Fett, with him onboard. Then Kris came up with that hashtag. Get it? Millennium VULCAN.

[@sisyphyus]

Is it just me or was this whole episode kind of a nod to how Nichelle Nichols, very early on didn't think she was "Star Trek" material? Is it just me that was thinking that the WHOLE epidosde?

[@andrewjohnson6716]

Me too! I was reminded of the story that Nichols told about her phone call from Martin Luther King when she was considering quitting.