US-bound with risks and dreams, the 'border crossers' from China

[@SouthChinaMorningPost]

For more on this: sc.mp/mxaji

[@cloudwithwind574]

Most of the people here owe a lot of debt. As far as I know, a man owed several million due to business losses, then sold his house, borrowed all the money he could, and then the whole family ran away one night!

[@LILI-ri9xh]

most of? you are lying!

[@cloudwithwind574]

@@LILI-ri9xh You can check it

[@DW-op7ly]

Disillusioned about China’, more Chinese aim for US via risky Darien Gap In 2023, Chinese migrants become the largest group outside the Americas to cross the treacherous region to reach the US. * Behind her, signs explaining the hotel prices and policies are written in Mandarin. Pots of spicy instant noodles imported from China are for sale next to bottles of water. Payments via the Chinese social media app WeChat are accepted. * “They move along in their own separate world,” Fernandez said. The group of middle-aged travellers, wearing hats and carrying tents and walking poles, are dressed for a trek. But not everything quite adds up. Many are wearing lightweight Crocs footwear, and their small backpacks are wrapped in plastic bags. * Just over 25,000 of those migrants were Chinese, making them the fourth largest overall nationality and the largest outside of the Americas to making the crossing. * Chinese migrants - unlike many of the other most common nationalities in the Darien, such as Venezuelans and Haitians - often take special “VIP” routes across the jungle that are led by guides working for the Gulf Clan, Colombia’s largest drug cartel, and are quicker and less strenuous for higher prices than the most basic routes. Why we want to go to the United States’ * “Our requirements are very simple: We can afford medical treatment, have a place to live, our children can afford to go to school and our family can be safe.” * Some migrants interviewed by Zhou were misled to believe they could easily get a job for $10,000 in cash a month. However, the reality is that many are struggling to get jobs because employers are fearful of hiring undocumented workers. * “I was forced to do this,” Sheng said while sipping a cup of tea at his hotel in Necocli. “It’s really difficult for most Chinese people to apply for a visa to America. But I feel disillusioned about China. That’s why we’re here in the jungle.” Aljazeera

[@cindylin266]

Yup running away from problems

[@小猪头-y4d]

​@@LILI-ri9xhmost

[@AnAverageChinese]

I know someone here in China who owe millions of debt. He can not afford it. His whole family went missing over night. We knew later that his whole family went to the US to escape their debts! 😂

[@ednasalinas5568]

Not surprising to hear at all.

[@sunshineafrican6872]

Way to go , put more debts to our tax $$$ in U.S ?

[@DiuLayGoHi]

me too，I also know people from mainland China who illegally immigrated to the U.S. to escape gambling debts. Before leaving, they borrowed money from their relatives to pay for the smuggling. Once they arrived in the US, they immediately blocked and cut off all contact with their relatives. So, these illegal immigrants really don’t deserve any sympathy.

[@DiuLayGoHi]

me too，I also know people from mainland China who illegally immigrated to the U.S. to escape gambling debts. Before leaving, they borrowed money from their relatives to pay for the smuggling. Once they arrived in the US, they immediately cut off all contact with their relatives. So, these people really don’t deserve any sympathy.

[@fiction5967]

Economic migrants are not refugees.

[@Sly-hc6im]

Says who? People come from all over for economic opportunities.

[@user-tr1zj]

@@Sly-hc6im the law. coming for economic opportunities is not grounds for asylum

[@LeahDyson-kq4bd]

Spies

[@34口2fds蛋トマgs]

@@LeahDyson-kq4bd typical intellect of a true crime enjoying female

[@LeahDyson-kq4bd]

@@34口2fds蛋トマgs aww ya hurt my feelins

[@robhappe2705]

I worked in many countries and spent a lot of money and efforts on visas and work permits. Including China. People shouldn’t go illegally abroad. They create sub standard situations.

[@TruthTeller8888]

Hmmm but crooks are crooks…

[@vitojosie]

Do you think they care?

[@aviatorsound914]

You have money they don’t… it just a sound reality about what the capitalistic system encourage.

[@DiuLayGoHi]

Many of them are actually trying to escape massive debts from gambling or business losses that they don’t want to repay, while others have criminal records and can’t find legitimate work. Since there’s no extradition treaty between China and the U.S., they resort to illegal immigration by smuggling themselves into the U.S.

[@amulia1]

Who wouldn't want to smuggle to the US when shopping is free for anything under 900. I'd walk thousands of miles too.

[@BaekKing]

china is stil a poor country. that is why people are leaving.

[@Windward535]

Woke Democrats are literal cancer

[@mifu5176]

你不西瓜，你要吃花生米。

[@UC5kym7PU5p4gqtCGShcXhFA]

lol obviously some of them are human traffickers if you didn't know

[@goldenmonkey963]

Yes shoplifters should pay with atleast 1 finger!

[@withpikachu2402]

Maybe he had some debt. China is known to stop such people at the border and not let to leave

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

You are right, anyone with a passport can leave. Anyone can get a passport, unless they are a wanted criminal or on bail or something. An unpaid debt it very possible.

[@robspunk]

There is no online privacy in China, it's even troublesome to be a practising christian. It's very common for people to be denied exit from China.

[@FoodDigger123]

@@robspunk please give me some solidly evidence? thanks

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

@@robspunk That is not true! You have never lived in China. No government official, employer or police officer here has ever asked me my religion or if I have one. I have never heard of anyone in real life, not wanted by the police, being stopped when leaving. People are free to be Christian or not. The Cultural Revolution has been over for half a century.

[@UC5kym7PU5p4gqtCGShcXhFA]

lol obviously some of them are human traffickers if you didn't know

[@josiejung6751]

I am not against immigrants, but not open border.

[@ednasalinas5568]

Exactly.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@josiejung6751 a house is not infinite

[@nghtwtchmn129]

America cannot become the world's homeless shelter.

[@Jaredbuncher]

They have no idea what they are getting themselves into lol

[@Emmy-J]

Especially if Trump gets into office.

[@orvos1459]

@@Emmy-JI’m pro Trump, but I don’t mind both East Asians and south Asians being around. They keep to themselves and are quiet, unlike Latino, middle Eastern, and African illegals.

[@EbuzzNYC]

If you've been to China, you know this is a thousand times better.

[@meegz149]

​@@EbuzzNYC I have... And it's not. I had a well paying job in Silicon Valley and I felt exploited. Almost 200k and I couldn't buy a house. As for my hours, before I left, the multibillion dollar company I worked with didn't want a night shift so they made us all on-call for a measly $36 a day. If you think you're doing well here, you're lying to yourself - I really hope whoever reads this takes this to heart- or you invested in a handful of stocks that took off in the last 5 years. BTW I trained for a month in Xi'an. I didn't see any tent cities there. It's not that bad. China is going through an economic hinge point. We will see if they go the way of Japan or continue to grow by finding their own way. Who knows with an incompetent and greedy ruler like Xi.

[@SoYappy]

@@EbuzzNYC I have, and it is not-

[@teresasalisbury4748]

As a native Californian who has been unable to afford CA for several decades, I'm wondering how these people live. Seems like some countries along the way would be smarter.

[@erwin5760]

This might be the biggest mistake these Chinese made.

[@alantan9863]

Times have changed as: 1. US no longer give citizenship upon entry. 2. US-China tension might make integration slightly difficult. 3. If you lacked English proficiency, you're definitely faced difficulties in integrating into the society.

[@sunshineafrican6872]

U.S has started to deport these Chinese back to China last week and more to go after Trump wins the election 😅

[@stephenc6955]

"these Chinese" biggest mistake is *ignorance,* most Chinese are just that.

[@lucycho9767]

They might regretted later.

[@willgates8383]

A lot are running away from debts or have funds from corrupt activities!!!

[@Denussy]

Put them on the frontlines in Ukraine. They're so brave right? None of them stay in Mexico or Ecuador. There's freedom outside the USA too.

[@Devilishlybenevolent]

They forgot to say "I want freedom... From debt" 🤣

[@andreastano7920]

People always think of what they call American dream, but they have no idea it's not what they expected: high living cost, hard to get a job, always be a target of discrimination and bullying, high cost of education, more than any other places. Many people gave their testimonies, how they used to be a businessman, have an apartment, saving, but after what they had gone through, they could only live a tiny rent house, work in a restaurant, baby sitter.

[@Layput]

They have an idea what it is. Only people like you don't see the greatness of the USA. You can try China for once

[@mudshovel289]

Yeah nice try. Unemployment is a lot lower in the United States than European countries or China.

[@abdiganiaden]

@@andreastano7920 🇺🇸🦅‼️

[@ButterflyG673]

Tell that to your Chinese friends! Please we don’t want any more immigrants here thank you😁

[@卡卡d]

​@@mudshovel289ah that explains the inflation (refer to the Phillips Curve)

[@suspiciousafternoon]

this is so frustrating to people who follow the legal route and wait their turn for so many years. it is a shame

[@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn]

Not many can afford the legal route, yet suffer the same/worst plights.

[@DiuLayGoHi]

Many of them are actually trying to escape massive debts from gambling or business losses that they don’t want to repay, while others have criminal records and can’t find legitimate work. Since there’s no extradition treaty between China and the U.S., they resort to illegal immigration by smuggling themselves into the U.S.

[@somedudeonyoutoob]

This is a slap in the face to anyone going through the legal process of immigration. It's become a joke

[@meegz149]

@somedudeonyoutoob I hope your cheek still strings.

[@Mal17281]

American dream of working only Monday to Friday 😂

[@BaekKing]

china is stil a poor country. that is why people are leaving.

[@pbworld7858]

Not only is it an American dream, but it's an American pipe dream.

[@vanlao6367]

well, a lot of companies/factories in China has been running on the infamous 9-9-6 work schedule, so of course working 40 hours a week is basically a dream for a lot of these Chinese migrants.

[@maynotbe]

to sleep in a little mattress at the back of a storage closet, he wasted all those time crossing oceans & borders, at least in China he could get probably better health care & definitely better food

[@Mal17281]

@@vanlao6367 the thing is depending on which city you work and what job you have. More and more Americans are working 2 jobs to make end meets. Hourly workers who work Monday to Friday barely make enough if they live in the big cities 8 hours a day. If you are lucky enough in a salary position, may work extended hours…

[@boratlion8613]

I’m Canadian citizen. Thinking of doing this journey too.

[@bonecolect]

I can understand why you people wanted to come but not that what you thought this country not heaven seeing is believing

[@parrotcracker6629]

Sorry but the last part of that sentence is hard to understand.

[@wumaobot]

Hollywood movie

[@bonecolect]

@@parrotcracker6629 witness it by your own eyes what happens in this country this country is deteriorating by its own government policies

[@kevintewey1157]

I cannot understand your english. And i'm better at it than you

[@nguyenlamanh2919]

@@parrotcracker6629I think they want to say: This country is not heaven. Seeing is believing.

[@hylimm]

Chinese people have been emigrating for decades. China has 1.4 billion people after all

[@cooleyfc]

thats the problem so many overcrowded people

[@张小曼-g8o]

@@cooleyfc我恨不得中国现在移民3亿人口去美国，加拿大，澳大利亚

[@johntu7484]

you're right that Chinese emigration has been happening for decades and is influenced by various factors, including economic opportunities and personal aspirations. With a population of 1.4 billion, it's natural for some to seek better prospects abroad. The stories of Chinese migrants reflect a long history of seeking new opportunities, adapting to new environments, and contributing to their new communities, while also highlighting the diverse motivations and challenges faced by these individuals.

[@christianv-h3278]

​@@johntu7484how very ChatGPT of you 😂

[@DW-op7ly]

@@cooleyfc Disillusioned about China’, more Chinese aim for US via risky Darien Gap In 2023, Chinese migrants become the largest group outside the Americas to cross the treacherous region to reach the US. * Behind her, signs explaining the hotel prices and policies are written in Mandarin. Pots of spicy instant noodles imported from China are for sale next to bottles of water. Payments via the Chinese social media app WeChat are accepted. * “They move along in their own separate world,” Fernandez said. The group of middle-aged travellers, wearing hats and carrying tents and walking poles, are dressed for a trek. But not everything quite adds up. Many are wearing lightweight Crocs footwear, and their small backpacks are wrapped in plastic bags. * Just over 25,000 of those migrants were Chinese, making them the fourth largest overall nationality and the largest outside of the Americas to making the crossing. * Chinese migrants - unlike many of the other most common nationalities in the Darien, such as Venezuelans and Haitians - often take special “VIP” routes across the jungle that are led by guides working for the Gulf Clan, Colombia’s largest drug cartel, and are quicker and less strenuous for higher prices than the most basic routes. Why we want to go to the United States’ * “Our requirements are very simple: We can afford medical treatment, have a place to live, our children can afford to go to school and our family can be safe.” * Some migrants interviewed by Zhou were misled to believe they could easily get a job for $10,000 in cash a month. However, the reality is that many are struggling to get jobs because employers are fearful of hiring undocumented workers. * “I was forced to do this,” Sheng said while sipping a cup of tea at his hotel in Necocli. “It’s really difficult for most Chinese people to apply for a visa to America. But I feel disillusioned about China. That’s why we’re here in the jungle.” Aljazeera

[@huhwhatjason]

CNA's documentary 2 months back has stopped trending, so it's SCMP's turn to make this topic relevant again. 😏 To the migrants: stay there, don't come back. Not just China, but please, never set foot back in Asia again. The West is a paradise, and you are forbidden from leaving paradise. Meanwhile, the rest of us Asians here in Asia will continue suffering from the loss of your magnificent presence, dear migrants.

[@seanchen9265]

😂 yeah, i realise too...

[@liviamartins1805]

That's exactly the same way I think about the gusanos from my country and continent. Leave and don't come back!

[@liviamartins1805]

That's exactly the same way I think about the gusanos from my country and continent. Leave and don't come back!

[@liviamartins1805]

That's exactly the same way I think about the gusanos from my country and continent. Leave and don't come back!

[@liviamartins1805]

That's exactly the same way I think about the gusanos from my country and continent. Leave and don't come back!

[@rg832]

Not only from China. People from all over the world are going to USA for better life. The minimum wage is very high. No matter what is the job.

[@SushmaVivek-xq4nv]

Yeah.. One of my friend got new car there and farmland in India just by working door dash and cashier in 7/11.... It was next to impossible with his bank job in India

[@LouiseChong-xk5xp]

If u can't do well in an environment u are raised and familiar, why do u think u can do better in a new environment with huge language barrier?

[@ivannovotny4552]

​@@LouiseChong-xk5xp- great point.

[@axelluna7321]

I assume he’s legal so he’s welcome to stay but for all y’all illegals, go back to your countries. Fight for your countries. We have enough problems in the US. We can’t house and feed y’all.

[@PSX247]

Cost of living in the US is also very high. Unemployment is also very high. Gun violence is also very high. The list goes on and on is also very high.

[@jasonlawrence4617]

wow 3000 a month. I was born here In vermont and I get a bout 1200 a month at a hardware store operating the forklift. Maybe I should Identify as immigrant.

[@Kiyoone]

do you have masters in dish washing after trained by a shaolin monk?

[@ericloo6576]

You need to work overtime to get $3000 a month.

[@xueling02able]

May not be telling the truth

[@MetaView7]

prob he meant RMB$3,000.

[@dyu8184]

He's probably working 7 days a week 8+ hours a day which basically is below California minimum wage

[@hidayaacil9610]

my dream travel is to go to China so beautiful country I'm not in need to leave my country but i really want to see China after watching a show about tourism destinations "random tour "

[@kennyng2289]

Do watch the videos from the following KZbin channels, all are first time travellers to China. Sun Kissed Bucket List Ken Abroad Flora and Note Two Mad Explorers There are many others besides those mentioned above.

[@loriaeddie4166]

Why is it that the play on words works for some, illegal is illegal, and anyone who enters illegally is an illegal immigrant. Claiming asylum after you committed an illegal act should not remove your illegal immigrant status. Using this logic we may need to look at some of the people who are in jail etc

[@RaymondHng]

Claiming asylum after crossing into the U.S. border means that you are asserting a legal right under international and U.S. law to seek refuge from persecution in your home country. When someone enters the U.S. and claims asylum, they are not immediately classified as an illegal immigrant because they are invoking a legal process to determine whether they qualify for refugee status or other forms of protection. This process involves interviews and assessments to determine the validity of their claim based on established criteria, such as fear of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. Seeking asylum does not guarantee approval, but it does afford individuals certain legal protections during the adjudication process. Therefore, the terminology "illegal immigrant" is not applicable to individuals who are actively pursuing asylum claims within the legal framework provided by U.S. immigration laws.

[@胡]

I’m curious what exactly they are running away from. It would surprise me if the government would harass his family just because he leaves, unless he’s in debt in some way

[@za7v9ier]

These people will become stateless if America do not accept them. Because even if they're sent back for deportation, China will not accept them anymore.

[@EbuzzNYC]

If you're a Christian you'll get followed, they also don't want the people sending them information on how free life is in the US>

[@cindylin266]

CCP does harass but why are you leaving your poor parents to deal with the aftermath. Selfish

[@EbuzzNYC]

@@cindylin266 it's a no win.

[@TruthTeller8888]

Better life pal

[@KironManuelCards]

How can a Chinese only speaking person get a driving license in the US? Odd.

[@happylucky-zh1oq]

Deport Deport Deport

[@robspunk]

Says the immigrant

[@happylucky-zh1oq]

@@robspunkLegal immigrant, I didn’t jump the fence. I went through multiple interviews, background checks, vaccinations before being allowed to set foot in this country all while paying thousands of dollars to be legally part of American society. The system should be fair to everyone.

[@daniel11111]

@@robspunk, why not? Im an immigrant too. Came legally, had to show multiple documents to prove my education, crime free history , and my English language skills to get a visa. Worked several hours to support myself, all while studying several hours a day simultaneously to catch up with the American education standards coming from a vastly inferior system. Endured mental breakdown to keep up with the requirements and expectations. And people can walk in for nothing? That waters down what America is. I didn't come here to see a Chinese America, (or my country's version). I want an American America where people didn't jump the line, broke laws and took shortcut to get here.

[@winsen5602]

@@daniel11111it’s honestly so sad, I’m Chinese born in Belgium but jezus christ the immigrants these days are ruining everything with their behaviour and religion. If you come anywhere illegally DEPORT. Kinda ironic how some people even label you calling immigrants out as racism wich is a huge slap in the face for anyone who has to wait for yours. Tough times with sumb people that can’t see that illegal immigration is bad, really bad.

[@TruthTeller8888]

@@robspunkbig difference between illegal and legal immigrants… you will need education to understand that..

[@chinesebob7220]

Go to Taiwan, Thailand or Philippines instead of US. Come to US and you will live with people with drug or mental problems, inflation, crime, layoffs, and homelessness.

[@leaaae4638]

im tired of these people!! They are taking all the doordash and uber jobs! In LA most delivery drivers are now border crosser

[@Niccholas5]

Exactly! But Americans people choose not to do anything and let them come and welcome just like that! It’s hard to find a job out there right now

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

It's racist nowadays to not support open borders

[@godsamazinggrace5331]

What American dream?? Usa is now plagued with homelessness!!

[@robertwong2218]

Just plain ignorant.

[@Emmy-J]

Like the one guy said there are so many coming that there is too much competition for work. Might want to add affordable housing to that. Should have thought about that before coming here. These immigrants don't seem to understand the the US also went through the pandemic also and are still pulling through it.

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

For the median citizen, adjusted for cost of living, USA has the highest income in the world. Cope all you want.

[@buddybnb2530]

This guy who is making $3k a month washing dishes sounds like great, he could be making more than the restaurant owner.

[@cindylin266]

It’s illegal immigration not illegal entry.

[@TruthTeller8888]

Both

[@RaymondHng]

@@TruthTeller8888 Claiming asylum after crossing into the U.S. border means that you are asserting a legal right under international and U.S. law to seek refuge from persecution in your home country. When someone enters the U.S. and claims asylum, they are not immediately classified as an illegal immigrant because they are invoking a legal process to determine whether they qualify for refugee status or other forms of protection. This process involves interviews and assessments to determine the validity of their claim based on established criteria, such as fear of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. Seeking asylum does not guarantee approval, but it does afford individuals certain legal protections during the adjudication process. Therefore, the terminology "illegal immigrant" is not applicable to individuals who are actively pursuing asylum claims within the legal framework provided by U.S. immigration laws.

[@TruthTeller8888]

@@RaymondHng where they claiming asylum.?? By invading country.?

[@RaymondHng]

@@TruthTeller8888 "Invading a country" refers to an act where one country's military forces enter another country's territory without permission from the government of that country. Individuals crossing the border are not military forces and they are not "invading a country". "Claiming asylum" refers to the process by which a person who is seeking international protection applies to be recognized as a refugee. This usually occurs when someone flees their own country due to fear of persecution or serious harm based on factors such as race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group. When someone claims asylum, they are seeking legal recognition and protection in another country, asserting that they cannot return to their home country safely. Countries that are signatories to international agreements, such as the 1951 Refugee Convention and its 1967 Protocol, have legal obligations to consider such claims and provide protection to those who qualify as refugees. The individual must file Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal. The applicant typically waits for several months to be scheduled for an interview with USCIS. The wait time can vary significantly based on the current caseload and processing times. Following the interview, USCIS usually takes some time to review the case and make a decision. This can range from a few weeks to several months, again depending on the specifics of the case and workload. If the application is denied, the applicant may have the option to appeal the decision, which can extend the process further. If the case is referred to immigration court (if the applicant is in removal proceedings), the timeline can also be prolonged.

[@Alex-ub6te]

Among them are hopeless people, cynical people, people who oppose the government, fraudsters on the run, and people with loan debts. It's nice to see that they at least have somewhere to go.

[@ondreiii]

You’re painting bad pictures on these people with no grounds. They all agree their aspects of lives and dreams were hindered oppressed and curbed in China. Even their families were harassed after they left. Only CCP-brainwashed person would have no sympathy for their fellow people like this.

[@cloudwithwind574]

Most of them are people who owe a lot of debt and cannot repay it!

[@ondreiii]

@@Alex-ub6te did you head down to the border and interview them? That assumption only suggests the typical CCP Wumao vilifying their own people if they don’t go along with the propaganda.

[@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn]

They'll get a rude awakening out ny when they get randomly knockedout for nothing.

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

Haha yeah lol

[@snan9402]

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" - Emma Lazarus

[@huanghermann5207]

Not at the moment, illegal immigrants are not welcome in the US

[@terenceteoh666]

Those Asians, brown n blacks did not realise it was written for a certain type of people...

[@dthomas99]

Time to return the statue to France. It is false advertising. Trump will deport them, send the Tired, poor, homeless away. But, USA bomb these countries and millions are refugees.

[@longiusaescius2537]

"Borders for me not for thee" - Emma Lazurus, israeli communist

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

@@terenceteoh666 And yet Asians run the tech companies and Blacks are at the highest level of entertainment and sports sectors. If people keep coming to the US, there's a reason. No other country treats immigrants as well. You can cry and moan all you want if it makes you feel better.

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

What does he mean, he was stopped from leaving China?! Anyone with a passport can leave. Anyone can get a passport, unless they are a wanted criminal or on bail or something. .

[@pjacobsen1000]

"Anyone with a passport can leave". Most people can leave, but some people are prevented from leaving, including many Uyghurs, Tibetans, some people who have criticized the Party, some people involved in a business dispute, ect. People active in the PLA are prevented by law from leaving the country, people in leadership positions in government must have prior permission to leave. All these limitations apply even if you're just going on vacation to Thailand, or a shopping trip to HK. However, most people don't belong to any of the above groups, so they can all leave.

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

@@pjacobsen1000 Ah, no, not really... Outside of people with legal issues, Chinese people can leave. Criticism of the party is normal enough; the Cultural Revolution has been over for half a century. Hundreds of millions of Chinese leave China (and return) as tourists every year, except during covid. If someone really needs to sneak out the western border is very rough and difficult to police.

[@alaindelon611]

China has been stopping their citizens from leaving their country. I heard that Chinese Immigration staff would sometimes confiscate a Mainland Chinese traveller's Passport at the Immigration window. This would result of a passenger not being able to board the plane.

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

@@alaindelon611 I am here in China and returned home across the border last week. Nobody tried to stop me going in or out. Only if there is a legal problem, like being wanted by the police, would they confiscate a passport. What you have heard is a White supremacist fairy tale.

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

@@alaindelon611 That is not true! You have never lived in China. No government official, employer or police officer here has ever asked me my religion or if I have one. I have never heard of anyone in real life, not wanted by the police, being stopped when leaving. People are free to be Christian or not. The Cultural Revolution has been over for half a century.

[@Maximus0187]

President Xi said Chinese people who economic undocemented emigrant to USA will never allow to return to China. 😂😂

[@jayscott7152]

No one goes to China anyway.

[@freeworld88888]

Alof criminals are living china. crimes do not work in china, especially under xi, we have seem top official are going ot jails too... not just pretty criminals.

[@turtlesoup8134]

I support that because he is essentially kicking out the dysfunctional or social misfit from China and exporting it to the US. These people will never be anything great in the US or China. Hearing from them feels like China is a dystopian place and the US is heaven due to propaganda and friends and family gaslighting them.

[@yirenvivianwang7978]

Most of them threw away china passport. Some brilliant Chinese did not threw away their passport go back to China after 6 months struggling in USA. They said they really regret going to USA. Luckily they still had money in their china bank account.

[@buddyman8474]

American Dream in 2024 😂😂😂. Working Monday - Friday.

[@kevinwong8693]

All for financial gain. nothing new. Chinese people are hard working, if they see an easier route to make money, they'll take it.

[@weigangfu8826]

I don't think been a illegal immigrant is a easier route to make money,for me they are just a bunch of people live in their fantasy.

[@eio1971]

Deport deport deport

[@Maestro47]

If you are interested in this, please see Wei Du's documentary from CNA (Channel News Asia) in where she and her team actually go to Ecuador and follows the path (as best as they can) that the migrants take. It is brutal the journey they take where they can be exploited by the crime gangs (both financially and sexually), and having the risk of death by the arduous walk itself.

[@lilytsui3015]

I watched it prior to this news report. That documentary was well filmed, enjoyed it so much!

[@MaxBerry-j6d]

@@lilytsui3015 ....LOL. That was another western med!!a made pr0ppaggaanda.

[@阿部机]

The family started in 10:00 must have a decent job and living well in China, they just want to put their money out. "That our social status would suddenly drop"...

[@SushmaVivek-xq4nv]

Same situation in India too for many.

[@user-tr1zj]

they were probably embezzling money like Miles Kwok a lot of them purchase US real estate to money launder their ill-gotten gains since police can seize their bank accounts when the investigation starts closing in

[@Hkchinese888]

As a Hong Kong Chinese, I want to migrate to USA too.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Alex-ub6te]

一问就是想去，一劝就是不走

[@Hkchinese888]

@@Alex-ub6te 冇錢走條毛呀！

[@Alex-ub6te]

@@Hkchinese888Lol then go get a job.

[@weavebrain]

Many of these guys are in trouble with the law back in China.

[@tidusfantasy]

It's very easy to look down upon the illegal immigrants, but nobody choose where they were born into. You can't blame or penalize people who want to seek a better life for themselves. The US is very wealthy, they can handle immigrants, they just need to have a way to funnel immigrants (legal or not) to the right place to contribute to the society, have them pay tax, increasing tax tevenue for government to pay for your old people's pension, that's a perfect scenario. It just requires political will and power to process and distribute immigrants. It is because of immigrations, the US is constantly growing. If u r in a position to look down upon illegal immigrants, take a look at your own privilege at the same time, u r already in a wealthy state taken care of by the world number one economy.

[@uyu4271]

economic refugees is against any countries' immigration laws. UN only guarantees political refugees. That's why they lie about their stories how China oppressed them so they can get the political asylum status. They exploit America's system like this. This should be raised awareness long time ago.

[@nancymcgee4776]

How many illegal aliens you have living with you ignoramus?

[@jojo5107]

Only educated/skilled immigrants can contribute to the economy. Most of these migrants are low skilled and can’t even speak English, and they'll rely on social welfare to certain extent.

[@robspunk]

Just like our great grandparents who came from the UK and Ireland.

[@johntu7484]

you make a compelling point. It's important to remember that many people don't have the luxury of choosing where they were born and are simply seeking better opportunities for themselves and their families. The US has historically benefited from immigration, and finding ways to integrate immigrants into society can enhance the economy and support public services through taxes. Instead of looking down on those who seek a better life, we should recognize our own privileges and advocate for fair and effective immigration policies that allow people to contribute positively to society.

[@ddy2025]

I don't know why i'm feeling a little upset after finish watching this

[@coolspot18]

What do they think they'll find in the USA as an illegal immigrant?

[@TacticalMayo]

That's what the asylum is for. They know what'll happen if they go back so they keep them here till they become citizens. Remember the Chinese are called the model minority for a reason.

[@iversonlopez8538]

freedom to say whatever they want is a first lol

[@azed746]

Hope for a better future

[@_Meng_Lan]

You didn't watch it. The immigration man said they are NOT illegal immigrants. Its an illegal ENTRY. They have the right to claim asylum. To become PERMANENT RESIDENTS

[@tofuyam7361]

Sounds like the main problem is that they can't troll on the internet lol

[@lynnt8222]

That is Almansor Park in Alhambra. I goes there doing my morning exercise.

[@chilam2512]

it's all about making that greener USD. once they get the permanent resident card. These people will go back vacationing in China.

[@rebeltheharem7028]

100% true. Most of them don't care about the freedom. They do it cause it's more money, better job prospects, and higher (?) standard of living. Few of them escape because of politics.

[@LoC28C]

That is a possibility.

[@uyu4271]

not only that. They also send money back to China to their relatives every month. If they get deported, they have already built a house for themselves.

[@nelsonzou3890]

Doubt China would accept them back

[@ButterflyG673]

Lol sure but I thought China is paradise no one wanted to leave 😂

[@JoseonBall]

Wow these comments are a lot more civil than I thought they would be

[@WallStGayBear]

paid actors

[@Sunshine-un5ww]

Heart breaking. Just like the millions of Chinese people who left at the turn of the century the suffering and disappointment they faced. I hope they find their way.

[@cloudwithwind574]

Most of them are people who owe a lot of debt and cannot repay it!

[@shaider1982]

i thought the Chinese economy was vibrant

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

Wumaos are crying in the comments

[@boratlion8613]

It’s f”d. China is bankrupt

[@maynotbe]

the new American dream is to leave the usa,! why do you think Americans retire to mexico, panama, ecuador, china, malaysia, belize, thailand...etc

[@chrislee5685]

Cause it cheaper. Having 2 million USD retire in America earn you normal retirement but all places you list will net you a rich retirement live.

[@sunha2133]

Cost of living is cheaper than U.S.

[@ericloo6576]

I met Indonesians who mortgage off their farm to work in US during the Asian Financial Crisis of 1998. The Indonesian currency lost her value back then.

[@FoodDigger123]

I'm chinese and i' m so happy that people can make action to pursuing America dream instead of slandering China. If you don't respect your country, you won't get respect anywhere

[@lotus-seedpod]

必须诽谤, 没有法治的社会, 必须谴责

[@Sunshine-un5ww]

@@FoodDigger123 bot

[@ariama]

Unfortunately the CCP is still watching and any comments wil get their family back home more in danger.

[@FoodDigger123]

@@ariama No Guilt, No Fear

[@MetaView7]

@@ariama Google and FB are watching too.

[@tyujg7495.]

they really went to the other side of the world huh.

[@fuji4202]

You’re not here legally . I really don’t give a F . 🇺🇸 citizen 1st

[@satanspy]

These people are going to tell Black Americans that "look how we made it why cant you"? And they will be voting republican in one generation.

[@mukakaka]

Biden’s America

[@can1bus]

Average American dude here: We want everyone here too, all of us do. With that said, we want all of you here safely and in a sustainable manner. The way it is being done now is neither safe nor sustainable. When the time comes, leave peacefully and reapply in the proper way. Asians are some of the highest performers in America, and a highly sought after culture across every industry. We need to do this the right way, otherwise your new freedom is in danger as well as ours. An entity acting outside of the will of the people enabled the opened borders. We are cleansing this infection.

[@Deedeekoo]

Shut up and go back to Europe the Native Americans certainly didn’t invite your kind here and so can feel power over our domain

[@Mr.Patrick_Hung]

It is strange that he said that he was stopped from leaving China! Anyone with a passport can leave. Anyone can get a passport, unless they are a wanted criminal or on bail or something.

[@clacicle]

@@Mr.Patrick_HungYou know very well that not anyone can leave China. Anyone who disagrees with the CCP is labeled a “criminal” so there you go. You’ve answered you own question. Ironically, many higher ups in the CCP go abroad all the time and manage to get their children educated there and move their “hard earned” money over there while regular Chinese have to suffer under tremendous oppression. I can’t blame them for wanting to leave China nor for countries like Taiwan wanting nothing to do with it.

[@Macsalleh]

​@@Mr.Patrick_HungHe lied to made china look bad,can get green card earlier

[@Justspinwin]

@@Mr.Patrick_Hung Everyone in China is watching those guys too, we would watch there streams and videos. Some of them are very famous in China LOL . Cuz in short , we want them to leave China , those are the guys who refuse to work and demanding the government to pay them(couldn't afford a normal plane ticket), and amongst them many are criminals.

[@maynotbe]

that American dream slogan is just an advertisement. if you work hard & smart, you can achieve, this idea works in most any country. your life here usa is not going to be much better than in china, you'll have very little free time besides working yourself to de@th. you are also monitored if you start spewing negatives or threats against officials here. not much different from China. in my opinion you can be successful if you work hard & smart in china as well. grass is not greener at the other side of the ocean just because you belive it is.

[@ButterflyG673]

You just described China perfectly! Haha monitor 😂

[@TedAlba-v8p]

If I illegally entered China, what would happen to me as US citizen?

[@MetaView7]

You can invoke/assert your legal right under international law to seek refuge status. Many Africans have done that. Guangzhou has the largest African community in China.

[@廖博]

比较难，中国本身不是一个移民国家。美国起码有接近半数的人是从其他国家移民过去的，对其他国家移民的人员比较能接受。

[@forsakenprotector486]

Glad to see atleast the chinese here are caring for the chinese who come

[@uyu4271]

no, we dont. ILLEGAL immigrants are illegal and against the immigration law. They are not welcomed to any country to exploit a particular country. Those Chinese are lying about their asylum request of how China oppressed them in China. The real story is they are financially struggling in China and they are 100% economic refugees who goes to the west to exploit.

[@ondreiii]

By scamming them? It’s common that these illegal immigrants are easy prey because of their vulnerabilities.

[@forsakenprotector486]

@@ondreiii i meant specifically the cases of chinese business owners hiring chinese employees

[@DubboU]

@@forsakenprotector486 where else can these Chinese business owners find cheap, desperate, and easy to handle labour workers that speaks Chinese?

[@forsakenprotector486]

@@DubboU from the one example in the vid, 3000 a month aint a bad wage

[@auntiedrummer]

Why would anyone want to migrate to the US? If only they saw how bad the homeless situation there, especially skid row, why would anyone wants to migrate there?

[@peterschlange1832]

Better hurry, border closing on Jan 20th, 2025. Aka border deportation day!

[@tuapuikia]

They look very happy in the United States. Thank you for following up with the previous video.

[@kaiwaweew6551]

Most artistic account so far. Almost indie film quality. USA is a powerhouse because of its immigrants. Change that, it will be a different picture 20 years down the road. From a singaporean perspective.

[@mudshovel289]

Which type of immigrants? People with skills the economy really needs, I absolutely agree. But not all immigrants are like that. The ones who end up working as restaurant severs or store stockers…there are already enough unemployed Americans who can do that. The unemployment rate might be low but it’s not zero.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@kaiwaweew6551 Singapore the Chinese ethnostate with strong borders and no refugees?

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

USA is a powerhouse because of skilled immigrants, not because we let in anyone with a pulse.

[@maneil9297]

The grass is always greener on the other side

[@sidneychan1372]

The lawyer said the reason why more Chinese come to the U.S. by illegal means is because it has become harder to get a tourist visa. So the U.S. should make it easier for them to travel to America legally by falsifying their intention in applying for the tourist visa?

[@kevintewey1157]

The c I a uses n g o's and spies over there to lie to people to get them to come over. We could just. Stop that

[@rebeltheharem7028]

Its on the Chinese side that is stopping them, not the US side. China in the past few years, made it significantly hard to go to any foreign country on a tourism trip. That's why many of them have to go to easier countries, and bounce around to come to the US illegally.

[@sidneychan1372]

@@rebeltheharem7028 Since when China can dictate whether the U.S. is to grant entry visa to the Chinese? DUH!! If China would stop their citizens coming to the U.S. illegally, that's great! We don't need anymore illegal migrants.

[@huanghermann5207]

@@rebeltheharem7028 true

[@海人-n4t]

@@rebeltheharem7028 False, they make it harder for those who don't pass the background checks. As for the matter of coprrectness of those background checks, I'm sure some of the guys who didn't pass didn't exactly carry malicious intentions, it has been harder to get any visa in the US and Canada ever since 10 - 20 years ago.

[@randomreal3228]

Nothing is scarier when you got invited for a cup of tea by the government or they want to check your water meter ..

[@schivver]

8:24 How convenient that after waiting for 8 days, her wife calling him when he got interviewed huh? 😂😂😂

[@毛泽东-i3w]

挺好的。有勇气重新开始，给自己一个重生的机会。我曾在国外生活很多年，希望有更多人尝试去国外换换环境。中印这样的人口大国应该鼓励民众外出，而不是污名化走线的人。我只有真心祝福。在国外不容易。加油朋友们。

[@genocidegrand2057]

grass always looks greener in other place. but is it?

[@TacticalMayo]

Yes it is, The difference is a lot of Americans are very very lazy, but these people are hard-working and if they're willing to work they will succeed here.

[@kiwifruitkl]

Meanwhile, I am considering on working/living in China as a foreign worker. But I am not sure about that. Hmmm... I am just going to wait and see if I can first get my official teaching license in America and see if I can get hired in American public schools. If I can, then I will just stay in America and use the holiday breaks to vacation in China.

[@SK-lt1so]

Compared to CCP prison state?! Are you serious?! 😂😂😂

[@lifeisgood141]

@@SK-lt1so CPP prison is a lot better than getting murdered and living in 5-star tent cities.

[@LoC28C]

⁠@SK-lt1so The CCP prison state gives you a lot more freedom and choice than the Freedom of the USA.

[@Doggiedogedog]

Most people r coming because their 30k a year Office Job in China is 200k in the us. The average Chinese person who comes is educated and bringing tens of thousands of raw cash minimum

[@MaxBerry-j6d]

But you pay 10 times more in total living expenses in U-->S-->A.

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

@@MaxBerry-j6d Eveen when you account for living expenses, standard of living in USA is much higher

[@sober5454]

出去三年时间先考驾照开大皮卡然后半夜上课学英语，这么卷，盲猜河南蛇头要崛起了

[@brilliant888]

Illegal immigrants

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

Filth

[@terenceteoh666]

Mainly economic migrants. But US is no more the land of opportunity esp for such blue collar economic migrants and with the anti China hostility, these people are going up have a very hard time.

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

People have been saying "American Dream is dead" for the last 200 years, and it's more alive than ever. KEep coping though.

[@fiction5967]

Military age males any background is concerning, but in China there are not enough women.

[@user-tr1zj]

as if they are going to have any better luck here when they can't speak English they're coming mostly for under-the-table jobs

[@victorchen9170]

There's plenty buddy.

[@za7v9ier]

China being ultra competitive... and it doesn't work for them in China so they go to USA instead.

[@bhiesantos9806]

How is he now? Any update thank you

[@zylbygdfn6542]

I feel for them. Its always for a better life it doesn't always live to your expectations

[@pbworld7858]

The grass is always greener on the other side. Sometimes the grass on the other side turns out to be artificial.

[@龚术]

我是中国人！我也是一个普通的公民，疫情三年时间我的餐馆倒闭了现在欠了银行大海20万美元的债务，但是我想说的是我从来没有想过离开我的祖国！我现在靠做点小买卖偿还债务，我想这是我的责任！而不是靠逃跑和出卖祖国只是为了去另外的国家生活！这些通过非法移民的人有的处境和我一样，他们不想背负债务，所以选择逃跑前把所有能借的钱包括网络贷款全部借完然后逃跑，他们知道去了美国没有回国的可能了所以他们选择撕毁护照，告诉美国人他们是被政府逼出来的！其实根本就是胡说八道！每个人都说自己是被政治迫害，可能吗？中国也许不完美但绝不是西方媒体和这些叛国者形容的那样！在中国你只要不犯法几乎可以做你想做的任何事，这里也没有什么所谓的压迫，人们可以有自己的信仰，佛教。道教，伊斯兰教，基督教，都有自己的宗教自由！中国有4300座清真寺，33000座寺庙，所有来过中国的游客都知道这一点，为什么他们要撒谎！？？我真的感到很愤怒！自己以为到了美国可以随地捡到美金，没想到实事很残酷！他们的身份和认知让他们付出了沉痛的代价！他们只能做最底层的工作拿微薄的工资！但是他们知道他们没有退路，回来只会因为恶意讨债被逮捕，因为出卖国家被排斥！所以他们只能接受被美国遗弃的命运！作为一个中国人我希望他们永远不要回来！支持他们寻找自己的美国梦！我的国家会为美国接收这样的垃圾感到高兴！

[@neilmanx1001]

which means you also went to US by same method illegally and failed and came back to china and now cursing them for doing the same?

[@龚术]

@@neilmanx1001 哈哈哈哈，说实在话，我对满城丧尸的国家没有任何兴趣，我在自己的国家过得很好，至少不用担心随时吃到"花生米"。你的无知猜测对我一点杀伤力没有，并且显得你很幼稚

[@Reciclajeoil]

Sounds like our regular wu mao

[@龚术]

@@Reciclajeoil sb

[@lucky-dw1tt]

没有人想要回来，如果有，也只好吃懒做无法适应环境的0.00001，还有，一个政党并不能代表一个国家，别偷换概念了，你思想配的上你的苦难，今日是他们，明日会是你，经济就是被你们这帮孙子搞垮的！

[@I_Love_Figs]

Pre Plaza Accord all over again. If you think the $14000 BYD hybrid with crazy fuel efficiency is crazy, $15/hr for burger flipping is what an introductory piano teacher earns in China.

[@后宫后]

What stereotypes are you talking about? Do you know how many tons of grain, vegetables, and fruits are produced annually in China? Not to mention that China is the world's largest industrial producer

[@后宫后]

The price of a meat bun in China is 20 cents, but in the United States, it can be sold for one dollar. Chinese people's drinks are tea and milk tea, and they can buy a pound of quantity for less than five dollars😅

[@DragonNo1]

Wish the best to ALL Chinese looking for freedom and the American Dream.

[@davidt5185]

Continue to dream...😂

[@Ned-zl1qt]

The American Dream is alive and well IN CHINA. - Carl Zha That is why there's a huge brain drain in the U.S now. All the top talents are heading back to China, while garbage are coming in.

[@OneDicz]

@@davidt5185 Why can't you wish people happy? Salty?

[@bluey5708]

@@OneDicz bcoz, it is not a place of happiness, when you're treated as a second class citizens.

[@Windward535]

The guy making $3000/m out of the bat working restaurant. That is more than lot of people in America make. He is doing well

[@buxi9428]

Chinese people came to build railroads too - best of luck to them, I would be curious where they are 20 years from now.

[@calvinkong6849]

They should go to Australia rather then america... australia need more migrant to tap their vast own resources...

[@ButterflyG673]

@Lin_OfficialWyes! Australia is safer than China👍🏼👍🏼

[@neilmanx1001]

Austrlians hate documented legal immigrants coming legally and they hate illegal ones even much more.

[@David-wy7mn]

disgrace

[@haorang5318]

用脚投票，希望他们能得到自己想要的。

[@ericxu3860]

屁话 就是一群loser觉得换个环境就发达了 最后发现还是loser

[@FoodDigger123]

确实，这样国内就安静多了，最讨厌那些说美国什么都好又不去的

[@jayzz9061]

@@FoodDigger123 他们可能是做移民生意的😄

[@WenlingGao-w5l]

12:37, Typical lawyer.

[@kiwifruitkl]

The Republic of China (Taiwan) should have received more of those migrants. - same language (Mandarin) - similar customs and traditions (Chinese) - western-approved government

[@rebeltheharem7028]

They don't want them. The customs and traditions are different from Taiwan (in that they lost most of it during the cultural purge). If even Hong Kong'ers hate mainland chinese moving in, then Taiwan would hate them even more.

[@johnc1873]

@@rebeltheharem7028yeah Taiwanese hates China so much that 3 million Taiwanese live and work on the mainland .

[@海人-n4t]

@@rebeltheharem7028 There's already plenty of worker exchange going on, but that's for qualified and skilled workers mostly

[@DW-op7ly]

SPECIAL REPORT-How smuggled workers power"Made in China" The smuggling of illegal workers from Vietnam across the 1,400-km (840-mile) border into China is growing. Labour brokers estimate that tens of thousands work at factories in the Pearl River Delta, which abuts Hong Kong. Workers from other Southeast Asian nations are joining them. Visits by Reuters to a half-dozen factory towns in southern China revealed the employment of illegalworkers from Vietnam is widespread, and authorities often turn a blind eye to their presence. Workers from Myanmar and Laos were also discovered to be working in these areas. Reuters found that employers supply these illegalworkers with fake identity cards and sometimes confine them to factory compounds to keep them out of sight of the authorities. Reuters

[@huhwhatjason]

Did you know that the Taiwanese government supported the HK protestors and promised they'd be welcome with open arms? Well, after the PRC cracked down on these Jan 6th rioters... oops I mean HK protestors, the rats started fleeing to Taiwan. Suprisingly (and unsurprisingly for those of us who don't consume Western media exclusively), the Taiwanese government, the ROC to be exact, started rejecting the applications of these HK asylum seekers.

[@christopherrascon6386]

I hope the Chinese immigrants will be alright in the United States after a long journey.

[@TruthTeller8888]

I hope no… illegal is illegal

[@doublem6027]

America won't be AMERICA ANYMORE if we continue to let the whole world come in. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@pan2aja]

It's cheaper to hire new guy than promote the old hire - capitalist mantra

[@simonjp873]

Continue to spread america dream though it never turn to reality ,.It would be more and more people go to america .LOL

[@dfdf-rj8jr]

@@simonjp873 If the American dream is not reality, why do people keep crossing border?

[@그랜절삼성동]

As the Chinese real estate market collapses and banks auction off houses, many Chinese unable to repay their loans are fleeing en masse. The concern is what actions they might take in the United States later.

[@Sgscouser]

The title should be “Line Walkers” from PRC.

[@limitlessinmind]

Exactly 😅

[@user-xs8re2oy7i]

Are they leaving china or are they being sent,to add more stress on the host countries.

[@lebbeus]

Has anyone seen anybody trying to smuggle into China?

[@uyu4271]

Jokes on you, China doesnt allow illegal immigrants work in the country. Murica is the opposite. They allow those illegals work in the country as long as they pay taxes. If they worked 5 years and paying taxes nonstop, they will be awarded with a green card.

[@DW-op7ly]

SPECIAL REPORT-How smuggled workers power"Made in China" The smuggling of illegal workers from Vietnam across the 1,400-km (840-mile) border into China is growing. Labour brokers estimate that tens of thousands work at factories in the Pearl River Delta, which abuts Hong Kong. Workers from other Southeast Asian nations are joining them. Visits by Reuters to a half-dozen factory towns in southern China revealed the employment of illegalworkers from Vietnam is widespread, and authorities often turn a blind eye to their presence. Workers from Myanmar and Laos were also discovered to be working in these areas. Reuters found that employers supply these illegalworkers with fake identity cards and sometimes confine them to factory compounds to keep them out of sight of the authorities. Reuters

[@YULI-t1s]

20 years ago i met a girl she is a Cambodian And she had a fake Chinese passport in order to stay in China.

[@cloudwithwind574]

There are also nearly one million illegally stranded foreigners in China!

[@fungj4126]

Pakistani

[@Avatar_2025]

we need to look at the nature of souls and how they express themselves in the physical reality. The people we call Chinese may have been Americans in their recent lifetime as far as reincarnation is concerned and vice versa.