US official: Russian anti-aircraft system may have downed Azerbaijan Airlines jet

[@Bigvergbigverg23]

Can we appreciate the pilot saving atleast half of the passengers

[@jathompson37]

Probably 0 steering & 0 electrical so all flying had to be done with varying power to the engines. Heroic effort!

[@shauncry9310]

Exactly they deserve all the respect. Diverting from the original path and trying to save everyone.

[@shauncry9310]

​@@jathompson37couldn't have said it better

[@dwrdwlsn5]

​@@jathompson37incredible flying. Honor and respect to pilots.

[@MrSunshanmu]

That's what I was amazed by. When I hear how the experts describe the amount of thinking those pilots had to do, and no one is even saying if they survived or not. The hydraulics help steer the aircraft, without it they said he'd have to use the engines to steer, and so much more. In my mind I was just thinking how insanely skilled these guys/girls were. I'm in awe. seriously!

[@adrielsebastian5216]

Whatever the cause is, the pilot showed incredible airmanship by flying across the sea and saving half of the passengers

[@dWFnZWVr]

I don't think people truly grasp just how exceptional those pilots were. The footage of the crash indicated a complete lack of elevator control and a severe phugoid oscillation. I cannot imagine what was going through the minds of the pilots on that flightdeck, but the fact that 32 people survived is a testament to their skill under nearly impossible circumstances.

[@221b-l3t]

They also managed a go around at least once and where lining up with the runway when another dive happened during a steep bank and they didn't have any altitude at that point. It was a large open flat area, they may have planned to land there with limited control. Data indicated they did 100 phugoid oscillations over that hour from 8000 fpm up and down.

[@Umbasa0nion]

Wouldn’t have happed if the west didn’t supply proxy wars. We are the bad guys.

[@nicksonshango2082]

It means they had some level control of the aircraft few seconds before the crash It imply had they gotten clearance for emergency landing earlier as requested and emergency services on landing they could have saved most

[@dylconnaway9976]

@@nicksonshango2082 They we’re using engine power for control, asymmetric thrust for turns. Their flight controls- ailerons, elevator, spoilers, rudder, flaps, and slats were all inoperable. Controlling the airplane just using thrust is incredibly difficult.

[@coldogno7]

they able to fly across the ocean, if only the decided to land ASAP at nearest airport the hydraulic was leaking fluid and they lost control at the end

[@allyl3961]

Pilots were incredible and did their best. God bless those who are affected.

[@acercorparation9724]

Both pilot died

[@MFrisman]

10 years ago a Malaysian passenger plane downed by Russia and now this one...

[@LW13r]

Well russian weapons have a tendency to hit everything except actual military targets

[@springbloom5940]

@@LW13r Weird, cause last I heard Ukraine was begging for yet another army. You know, after the other two that Russian weapons already destroyed.

[@springbloom5940]

@@MFrisman Note how you just take this at face value with no evidence. This is the narrative and that will be finding no matter what.

[@MFrisman]

​​@@springbloom5940 both cases happened over Russian controlled air space, both cases with the same holes in on the fuselage. this time Russia will not be able to hide the facts like they did with the Malaysian. Putin should go to prison...

[@charlesTravelandArt]

Putin still in power it will happen again and again.

[@cherby27]

Those are some high-caliber birds

[@Tsar-Czar]

Why were they flying over a warzone?

[@foobarf8766]

Birds with RADAR proximity fuses, working for the CIA

[@sergeyb8]

​@@Tsar-Czar because many states are still oblivious that ruszia is a war zone and it's not safe to fly there

[@cgourin]

@@Tsar-Czar not a war, a special operation, pay attention or fall out a window.

[@Mathewson1G]

@@Tsar-Czarthey weren’t really that close to any part of the russo ukraine war

[@peter.mwaura]

Russia: not me. The birds. Don't talk about it anymore

[@Ptolemy336VV]

The Russians also shot down MH17 with many Dutch people in that flight a few years ago, which Russia 100% did with every proof, yet Russia vehemently acted they didnt do it. Like now: bird strike while the back of the plane has shrapnel evidence of anti air gun. Typical blatant Russian lies so profound while they ignore it right in your face

[@SultanOfThrones]

Indeed!😂😂😂

[@wackyruss]

Typical Russian denial.

[@eddieokpara3549]

Maybe the U.S. it shot its own jets down.

[@tectonicfilm]

​@@eddieokpara3549or maybe it's Russia seeing as it happened over Russia 😅😂

[@NathanBrooks-x1c]

They can shoot passenger planes down just not Ukraine’s drones.

[@KillingurAccountant]

Passenger planes are hundreds if times bigger dude... its like saying you hit the house but not the motorcycle

[@RakibHasan-ee2cd]

They definitely can but some get through. Also how did you abrams, challenger and other 'game-changers' get destroyed in ukraine? Abrams dead to drone before it fired a shot. Embarrasing. 🤣🤣🤣. It is now in St. Petersburg museum dude.

[@Mountainclimber-zv4u1]

They do shoot those drones down, which is why Russia keeps taking territory

[@Tola5657]

Drones are lot smaller. Just take Israel smaller country and more anti missile system fir the area and there have got drones pass there defense system also

[@VictorFernandes-s6q]

Your dead brain cells are talking, wtf do you even mean by that lol 😂😂😂.

[@Cownado]

I guarantee the Russians wasn’t expecting the part of the plane that got hit is the area that survives

[@yvanmargineanu9807]

👍👍

[@skoy21]

There is no actual evidence that Russia shot it, there are speculations about it.

[@bradcalhoun8976]

@@Cownado 🤣🤣 🤫🤫

[@waynethegreat23]

Not landing in Russia saved their lives

[@bradcalhoun8976]

@@waynethegreat23 you’d better believe it did!!

[@Tyrell_Corp2019]

Wouldn’t be the first time Russia did this

[@kiranmkota]

Wouldn't be the first time a nameless US official asserted something*

[@bdmenne]

@@kiranmkotabrought to you by the people that tried to float a Heavy flu Propaganda

[@ENSURE-9]

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[@miscellaneous714]

Russia (Soviet Union) did a similar mistake in 1983 with a Korean passenger jet.

[@travisabr1294]

​@kiranmkota why you defending authoritarian adversarial regimes. Weird. 🙅‍♂️

[@tbyte007]

No shit! It was riddled with holes ffs.

[@shortrandomusername]

Not to mention they refused to let the plane land in Russia, but asked that it fly 400km across the sea to Kazakhstan in the hope that the plane never makes it...

[@jallopenoman1126]

Holes don’t say anything

[@miemsliva4464]

​@@jallopenoman1126How about "Bullets" or "Gunfire"?

[@christopherwaits7852]

@@jallopenoman1126okay Vladimir

[@sergeyb8]

​@@jallopenoman1126 they do when even a passenger was wounded BEFORE the crash.

[@Munk-tt6tz]

Funny how they claim Kazakhstan isn’t a 'real country' when Russia itself owes much of its existence to the lands and legacy of Turkic and nomadic peoples. Historically, much of Russia's territory was occupied steppe land, originally ruled by Turkic nomads like the Kipchaks, Tatars, and Khazars. Even the Russian language is filled with Turkic loanwords, and countless rivers, towns, and regions still carry Turkic names. As for governance, let’s not forget that many so-called 'Russian czars' were German-born or heavily influenced by foreign rulers, while the Russian peasantry lived in serfdom-essentially slavery-well into the 19th century. If we’re going to question the legitimacy of countries, Russia’s own history deserves just as much scrutiny.

[@GeneralWinter9]

Shut your trap, no one claimed anything like that.

[@BoxcarWillie42]

May have? Russia did. Don't be scared to say they shot at it. It's obvious. Lesson learned, don't fly in Russia

[@CRASH.CORNER]

It’s hard not to point fingers when the evidence seems so blatant. Definitely a lesson to be cautious about where we fly. ✈

[@reallyWyrd]

yeah I don't get what CNN's deal here is. Srsly. I already saw a pair of videos from youtubers who I consider to be reliable who made a more than convincing case that Russia shot this thing down using some sort of missile that explodes *near* the plane releasing shrapnel that does the real damage. (I am not a knower of military stuff. I'll look up what it was called later.)

[@karlvonbahnhof6594]

I think reason, why Russians didn't allow emergency landing is because they were hoping, the aircraft will crash in the Kaspian sea with all the evidence...

[@joecolatti9616]

What, ur propoganda

[@oldestries]

When its truth, they coutious. When its lies, they pull up a big show. Why?

[@sonnyhome5515]

The pilots wanted to leave evidence for investigators to help them solve the puzzle why they landed on land. RIP

[@karensteinmiller4843]

Where is the blood and feathers?? I am a retired flight attendant and was on a flight where we hit a goose at 14,000 ft. After landing and inspecting the aircraft, we discovered a large hole on the side with blood and feathers all around it. Not a bird strike!!

[@humbertomonteiro6742]

😂😂😂Pathetic orcs, was a metal bird strike, at 30000 ft high

[@Just-Human]

So serving peanuts and refreshments made you a plane crash expert?

[@karensteinmiller4843]

Flight attendants are on board airplanes for SAFETY ONLY! They go through continuous extensive training and the peanuts are just a perk for passengers. I’ve evacuated a plane, had a heart attack victim and even had an attempted suicide in a lavatory. A little more than peanuts!

[@karensteinmiller4843]

@@Just-Human Flight attendants are on board for SAFETY ONLY! The peanuts are just a perk!

[@jeffhufana2389]

@@Just-Human you funny in a bad way 😂😂😂😂

[@kiljoy100]

Ya think? The anti aircraft flack holes kind of gives it away. That was no bird

[@05DoitforBrock]

It was one of those SAM birds

[@jallopenoman1126]

It’s the “patriot” or “Sam” bird

[@DaddyCaldwell]

Maybe it was a Bald Eagle?

[@ConduitMerchandise]

They were high caliber birds😂

[@skoy21]

It's giving away that it was shot, not who shot it though...

[@rovshanbagirov4653]

Refusing the plane entry into other Russian airports could have been a deliberate another attempt to deflect blame or avoid scrutiny. It also points to either a serious lack of coordination or outright negligence (Russian разгильдяйство). No planes should be flying over Russia until this war is over, much like the restrictions over Ukraine. Yet, Russia continues to act as though nothing serious is happening. The lack of transparency is of course deeply concerning, though not surprising.

[@c.l.w.8256]

Russia always accidentally shoots airplanes down.

[@BIMMERKID2]

kal 007

[@221b-l3t]

At least it's usually incompetence and not on purpose. Although the Korean Air was pretty obviously an airliner, a fighter flew up to it and looked at it.

[@ebiekem]

​@@221b-l3tdidn't the US Navy just shoot down its own FA-18 just a few days ago? Would you also call that incompetence?

[@aresnir2725]

CNN always blames Russia.

[@hermes7587]

@@aresnir2725 It is rather difficult to find another culprit if a civilian aircraft is being shot down by an air-defence missile over Russian territory.

[@KevinHale-y2t]

It was shot down. The photos show bullet holes everywhere on the frame

[@mcplutt]

Probably not bullets....

[@paulmitchell2468]

Shrapnel.

[@Helen-px2mv]

Shrapnel marks..not bullet holes

[@elir.torres8642]

Planes don't have hulls. Wrong waters my friend.

[@techcafe0]

the shrapnel holes all over the plane's fuselage are consistent with a surface-to-air missile exploding within proximity of the airliner

[@Knucklehead123]

Find out who was on the plane. . .

[@franciscocarlospopriaga7457]

Não estava no avião. Aviso de putler ao chefe kazake.

[@mcplutt]

Why?

[@Knucklehead123]

@@mcplutt To see if it might have been a hit on a particular person on the plane.

[@TrungNguyen-vq1yu]

They have done the evil thing before with Malaysian Airlines flight.

[@jallopenoman1126]

How do you know that?

[@isai267]

that was ukraine lol

[@AysegulYildiz282]

​@@jallopenoman11262 russian arrested and found guilty. They are russian backed rebel in Ukraine.

[@dog6647]

​@@isai267Russian supplied Missile fired from Russian controlled Ukraine. Just filling in some things you missed!

[@thehalfricanguy]

@@isai267 You wish.

[@claustrophobeinspace]

Russia and Iran, the champion of military incompetency!

[@blackups__6554]

Because of one incident in Russia? Do know just about a week ago US air defense system down to fighter jets in the Mediterranean? Do you know how many innocent people were killed by Israel in Gaza and Lebanon in the last year.

[@leilap2495]

@@blackups__6554they’ve done it before. Remember the Malaysian plane that was shot down over Ukraine? I’m Iranian and I will agree about Iran too. Iran shot down a civilian plane full of Iranians because it thought it was something else. Incompetent and careless.

[@jeb6361]

@@blackups__6554 Boohoo.

[@ENSURE-9]

?

[@CRASH.CORNER]

Unfortunately, history keeps showing us examples of poor decisions with devastating consequences. Military incompetency hits hard. 💔

[@henrysantos7160]

My deepest condolences to all victims family 🙏

[@ernestestrada2461]

I guess Russia has forgotten about the Korean airline incident.

[@briant5685]

you also forgot about iranian airline and infact awarded the perpetrators

[@lincolneserio7620]

​@@briant5685don't change the topic

[@johnbuckles1344]

KAL007 was sent on a covert spy mission, unbeknownst to the hapless passengers. By flying "off course by accident" the pilot (who was KCIA) was trying to light up the Soviet air defense radars, so that the RC-135 closely following it could record the frequency, or wavelength, of the systems. And I note brian5685 has tried to remind you of the US' shootdown of the Iranian airliner.

[@christ4209]

Funny how the russians came out saying dont jump to conclusions. Hard not to with video showing otherwise

[@jallopenoman1126]

That’s how it’s supposed to be conducted, don’t jump into any conclusions before the investigation is finished. It’s not a funny way but a proper way.

[@Gamer-d7bs]

You know the Gremlin would be glad to jump to conclusions if it was the other way around.

[@jallopenoman1126]

That’s not funny way but a proper way. You can’t jump to the conclusion before the investigation is finished

[@electron6825]

​@@Gamer-d7bsThe Gremlin 😂 love it 😂

[@Ricky-k1g]

Anytime msm like cnn touch a story u kno it’s been twisted wouldn’t surprise me if someone else did this and want to blame Russia just to help spark ww3 even more

[@iitzfizz]

To call this a "Christmas miracle" is a disservice to the pilots and their airmanship. The fact that anyone survived is down to them, not a Christmas miracle.

[@dkg_gdk]

If a civilian airliner goes down near Russia. your first thought shouldn't be "oh, probably a bird"

[@guest6423]

Ukrainian geese used a Russian system to down the jet in yet another false-flag operation. Why are they so mean to our good friend Vladimir?

[@DuaneHallinSD]

😂

[@humbertomonteiro6742]

😂😂 A metal bird...

[@JoeyBlogs007]

A bird with steel balls at that. A very brave bird. 🦅🦅

[@stephenhill545]

An LGBTQ bird in possession of heavy weaponry trained by NATO to seek out high concentrations of slavic DNA.

[@CRASH.CORNER]

The pilot's courage and quick thinking deserve immense respect. It’s heartbreaking that such tragedies continue to happen, but moments like these remind us of the heroism amidst chaos. Rest in peace to all the victims. 🕊

[@17berjayasport95]

There lived a groups of man in US we all know :they so shameless so low with the eye of greedy glow There lived a group of man in Euro we all know : they so stupid so wrong in the story tat The US told,,, Ra,, Ra,, Rasputin can you those US Beast it was so shame how/what they go on,,, Wow Wow,,, Eurobean don't u see those US beast it was shame how they carried on,,, wow,, wow,, can you see the Pirates of the Caribbean it was so shame how /what they go on,,, wow,,, wow,, so shamelessly can u see those US Beast it was no shame how they carried on,,, There lived a certain man call Zelensky the world all know He is so shameless so low in the story tat The US told,,,, oh those beast.

[@ryantoomey611]

Didn't the same thing happen to a Malaysian plane around 10 years ago where it was hit by a Russian missile?

[@sealstech8087]

The whiplash from “bird strike and nothing to worry about” to “yea this could be WWIII” was wild this past 6 hours.

[@RGNSS-hn8ew]

Never forget MH17. 🕯 And all of Putler's innocent victims. 🙏🏼

[@Easyfilm84]

May Putin receive the Ghadaffi treatment.

[@RGNSS-hn8ew]

@Easyfilm84 Amen to that. 🗡

[@DrojanaleTorvic]

@@Easyfilm84yes and where is Libya now? Yet another country destroyed by America 😂😂😂

[@foobarf8766]

No integrated IFF in the older Pantsir, as likely used by Chechens and ex-Soviet-blocs. The IFF feature was optional.

[@nickngunjiri4282]

​@@Easyfilm84 Libya is in ruins

[@GaryMarks-x9s]

You can see the flak holes in the rear section May have ? Come on really ?

[@daurenkulzhanov7496]

We all should understand, that if they landed somewhere closer to the Russian border, the investigation would be carried out under control of the Russia. And we all understand what outcome there would be. I do believe, that's why they chose a neutral country, that has involved Azerbaijan reps as well as Brazilian reps...

[@codernov]

I'm from Russia. Yea, it is what it is. Apperantly it was hit over or near Grozny, diverted to alternate airport, and looks like hydrolics leaked out, plane went up and down, and was uncontrollable. Now, the thing is, the rhetoric now is that it wasn't Russian air defences, it was Chechen air defences -- it's like saying it wasn't U.S. air defences, it was Floridian air defences, if something like this would have happened in the U.S. for example. The amount of ridiculousness here man. You see, it's good when you say positive things about Russia, but it's bad when you say bad or borderline bad or truth, there is no freedom of speech in Russia, officially.

[@aresnir2725]

Who in Russia says its any anti-air defences?

[@codernov]

@@aresnir2725 Bro, people. People say that.

[@aresnir2725]

@@codernov Of course, people. Everyone is people.

[@codernov]

@@aresnir2725 Now listen to survivor Elfudad Asadov, he was flight attendant on that plane. Video is out.

[@hardergamer]

@@aresnir2725 Loads of people, I have over 200 Russians, say it was a Russian air defence missile.

[@Rob-cy8xc]

Wild how anyone survived

[@PaulWillinghamIII]

Praise Jesus Christ!!!

[@ravenbelote1801]

Right? We all know to sit in the back of the plane now. RIP to those lost.

[@Matt-i6f]

@@PaulWillinghamIIImost of the survivors are Muslim.

[@medusa7872]

Two ver skilled calm pilot made ıt possible.

[@Sammy-qt9it]

​@ravenbelote1801 Apparently, there isn't a safest seat on an aeroplane. Sitting next to doors/windows can be bad if they break mid flight, sometimes the tail hits the ground first, sometimes the nose ect.

[@ssonehong]

Whatever the cause is, the pilot showed incredible airmanship by flying across the sea and saving half of the passengers!!

[@mpierre3026]

Why the hell are people still flying anywhere near this area?

[@thomaszanzal7846]

They live there.

[@sergeyb8]

​@@thomaszanzal7846 people live all over Ukraine too but the airspace is closed for this reason.

[@randomlegend631]

Thats what im sayin. Dont fly over that area, does not matter if you live there currently. Common sense.

[@CRASH.CORNER]

Good question-flying over known risky areas seems reckless at this point. Safety should always come first! 🚨

[@pentse7]

@@mpierre3026 flying is not a problem shooting civilians is unacceptable and inhuman act

[@joaohenriquepace126]

They underestimated the skills of the brave pilots and the quality of the plane.

[@tylerduval2186]

The man praying in video did survive

[@bosorot]

The next logical thing is to cancel all the flight to Russia .

[@threedprint5562]

Prigozhin would like a word

[@theicedragon100]

He would, but the same "birds" hit his plane.

[@yvanmargineanu9807]

😂😂😂😂

[@Giftedtib]

Again?!? This totally unacceptable! Trump talk to your BFF Puti! Smdh

[@dwrdwlsn5]

Why would EITHER of them give a damn?

[@CRASH.CORNER]

Totally agree. It’s beyond frustrating to see events like this repeated, and the lack of accountability is mind-blowing. 😡

[@DArmstrongMedia]

Tell your senile , dementia predator president to quit escalating things for 23 more days.

[@SeverancePay500]

Wouldn’t that be Biden’s job?

[@yvanmargineanu9807]

@SeverancePay500 Russian Bot

[@fonsi198]

Is it true Russia refused a request of emergency landing on their airport close by?

[@17berjayasport95]

There lived a groups of man in US we all know :they so shameless so low with the eye of greedy glow There lived a group of man in Euro we all know : they so stupid so wrong in the story tat The US told,,, Ra,, Ra,, Rasputin can you those US Beast it was so shame how/what they go on,,, Wow Wow,,, Eurobean don't u see those US beast it was shame how they carried on,,, wow,, wow,, can you see the Pirates of the Caribbean it was so shame how /what they go on,,, wow,,, wow,, so shamelessly can u see those US Beast it was no shame how they carried on,,, There lived a certain man call Zelensky the world all know He is so shameless so low in the story tat The US told,,,, oh those beast.

[@paulmitchell2468]

Yes, twice.

[@ivconcert]

Yes that's why MORE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA should be imposed! Shame that there are countries that still trade with russia..

[@Տիգրան-ժ1է]

When executing the plan cover, any landing is prohibited

[@Priest_Of_Zebak]

Crazy that so many people survived.

[@Nicholasbroughton0420]

The man in video survived apparently.

[@paal8193]

"Russians may have downed ..." .>> What about "Russians have downed ... "?

[@V0ID_beats]

Wait till the investigation is done. But yeah, 100% it was russia

[@Beastiemon007]

Who was on the plane that might have been important enough to be a target?

[@mahammadisgandarli4397]

hardly anyone. It was a message to Azerbaijan by Russia. The reason is Azeraijan wants to sign a peace deal with Armenia and Russia doesn't want that. Because Russia might lose control over that territory

[@Vatnik_tschistilka]

They thought there we're drones in the Air and launched Infrared guided missiles. Those Just liked the jet's Heat better then the tiny Drone ones.

[@Laughingcoyote1213]

This has happened before in Russian airspace and again, nothing will happen about it. Innocent people are dead with no justice for them.

[@nettlelee7033]

End the war. Peace to the world

[@kimsold22]

Amen to that @nettlelee

[@foobarf8766]

Yes but Putin is who must hear that, and he doesn't listen

[@GLIMPSE_00]

This finna start another war lol ain’t noway Russian or no peace finna fix this. Innocent kids & adults.

[@eatconcrete6443]

@@GLIMPSE_00they aren’t American 😂 they’ll probably just back down it won’t be a war

[@GLIMPSE_00]

@ don’t need to be American. This will cause some type of issues , specially in this day n age

[@aleksandermiskowiec6591]

A surviving passenger said that on the third attempt to land in dense fog at Grozny an explosion blew out some of the aircraft skin.

[@Andykibe254]

The cameraman never dies

[@mcplutt]

What do you mean?

[@tahirbayramov8570]

yes he survived.

[@HomeDefender30]

Those pilots were S-Tier to even keep that bird airborne, let alone get that close to landing it and still saving 30+ lives.

[@nestof6042]

the russian are so scared they absolutely shot it down and they are going to blame it on ukraine

[@ARKSH_22]

No we aren't I'm Russian we know we shot it down :/

[@MegaTinge]

How do you know?

[@SpringIsBACK]

@@MegaTinge Articles to that effect are already showing up on pro-Russian and isolationist US websites.

[@rugerraylewis2602]

@@MegaTinge MSM told him

[@nestof6042]

@rugerraylewis2602 not the first time they shot down a passenger plane and lied about it

[@nightstorm9872]

It obviously did, you can see holes in parts of the plane before landing.

[@elmosweed4985]

"landing"

[@ZoomZoomMX3]

Agreed

[@sergiomordekaiser790]

Crashing*

[@jallopenoman1126]

@nightstirm9872: holes don’t say much. The explosion happened on the ground as the plane descended NOT in the air . Holes on the plane is not evidence of missiles because if it was anti missiles systems, the plane would be obliterated in the air NOT waiting until it gets on the ground.

[@jallopenoman1126]

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[@chaithanyarr1225]

This pilot is a great man .He saved passengers even after being attacked

[@chirawanphung]

Do some homework before commenting on the story. The plane was denied landing at any (far nearer) Russian airport and therefore had to fly an additional approx 350 kms. If it had been allowed to land locally it might have made it without loss of life.

[@devonpowell8313]

So when do we show Russia this isn’t ok?

[@jamesblocker5235]

Don’t fly in a conflict zone with commercial plane loaded with people,in war zone doesn’t sound real smart

[@mcplutt]

This isn't a war zone anymore than moscow is.

[@Sammy-qt9it]

It was heading to Russia, kind of unavoidable unless you stop all planes in, out/ around Russia

[@jamesblocker5235]

@ so if I get what you’re saying is that there was no safer route to fly into Russia . My hart goes out to all the people that lost loved ones on this flight I am sick and tired of all this death and destruction of war. Hopefully this will stop.

[@DarkmanRides]

You can't hide or fake anti-aircraft fire😂

[@Don-mi6zl]

You can hide the source.

[@DarkmanRides]

@Don-mi6zl you are correct we are very familiar with the opposition's weaponry and what it is composed of in exactly what it looks like and what it does.

[@Nippefish46]

China are Angry about this the world are very Angry about this 2 planes downed by Russia when will Russia be brought to account for this..I want to send my condolences to the family's and all who lost their life in this massacre crime by Russia..

[@Zman44444]

Not the first time Russia shot down a passenger airliner…

[@lucifersstepkid1143]

He was told to fly over the water by russian air control, they were hoping it crashed into the ocean to hide the fact they shot it down. The guy in the video survived btw

[@slyFoxx365]

I'd feel like Im in a final destination movie after walking away from that.

[@GospelProgressionsUniversity]

seriously.

[@exceedmg2979]

It was recklessness to fly in an active war zone

[@dylconnaway9976]

Guess Mary Schiavo, who told us last night that the shrapnel damage didn’t look like “bullet holes” to her, won’t be invited back.

[@MrCharly3k]

She said with a straight face that those holes came from the explosion and not shot down...I said this woman is no expert and she's obviously high af. 😂

[@richardjones9007]

Why not? Why are you willing to believe this guy’s analysis over hers? She is quite a reputable source.

[@richardjones9007]

@@MrCharly3k and you say this based upon how many years of related experience?

[@DavidM_Shreds]

Inward holes from an “Explosion”. 😂

[@richardjones9007]

Why not? Why are you willing to believe this guy’s analysis over hers? She is quite a reputable source.

[@kennynyimbiri7761]

A repeat of MH17. Russia shot down a passenger plane and now we have this again.

[@erwinapatan9977]

Russia will deny it, just like how they did with Malaysia

[@ApolloMission]

Very dangerous to fly passenger plane in war zone country..

[@stephenhill545]

Tell us all why it wasn"t allowed to land in Russia. We'd love to know.

[@stephenhill545]

Are you advising Aeroflot, air Rossiya and S7 to ground all aircraft.

[@justind4763]

@@stephenhill545 probably the bullets

[@pastelclouds1922]

You mean special military operation country. No war = no war zone = no air restrictions. And Russia doesn’t want to admit it started an actual, real war.

[@bwtawny]

Should check who was on plane. Was someone in possession of info, knowledge, or connections that someone wanted gone? Also if plane was refused landing in Russian air space and then sent across an inland sea then was it hoped that plane would crash in sea? Bet someone is unhappy that plane with bullet/shrapnel holes made it across.

[@paulmitchell2468]

Most likely just an accident, but don't expect Russia to take responsibility.

[@johnbuckles1344]

Here's a joke for ya'...How many paranoids does it take to change a lightbulb? Answer..."who's asking?"

[@jaredp8169]

WTF is it with Russia shooting down commercial airliners

[@mcplutt]

ruzzia can do anything

[@GeneralWinter9]

They didn't, didn't you watch the video?

[@mcplutt]

@@GeneralWinter9 They did.

[@GeneralWinter9]

@@mcplutt No they didn't, quit being dumb

[@Fleloniousrumpt]

Too much vodka

[@jessefincham8899]

Pilot is a hero for sure. The way he swung it sideways and tried to slide it.

[@Rhythmbeats.]

Shooting down a civilian plane is considered a great crime and terrorist act, because any of us could have been there. May God have mercy on those who died.😢

[@Fokadas]

May have? Really?

[@ALFU-g4l]

Like a stupid omerican may know, right?

[@CrispyOkra]

Since when were we in the business of covering for Russia? Why are you down playing this?

[@TxInfinity]

Wouldn't be the first time Russia downed a commercial aircraft due to negligence.

[@nathanjw940]

@@TxInfinity intentional

[@pewee6113]

With Russian precision. Russia has always been an expert in destroying civilian airplanes.

[@tierraokonkwo6671]

Did the pilots survive😢?

[@Pechieve]

Unfortunately not, but they did everything they could to save people on board.

[@markmd9]

Oh, really ! After that yesterday most of the comments were saying it was shot down.

[@jacksonfolly]

The plane is through to have traversed the Caspian Sea AFTER being struck?

[@user-fv2fb1wf2k]

No flights to Russia! Ukraine had closed their airports…

[@mcplutt]

What does this has to do with Ukraine?

[@yulyaz]

The war. It is not save to fly over Russia because of Ukrainian drons.

[@rugerraylewis2602]

@@yulyaz Armenian & Azerbaijan are in conflict. They were nowhere near Ukraine😂

[@stpfs9281]

The idea that ruzzians would try shooting down a very small drone, and mistook an _airliner_ as a target is ridiculous. 17:21 "After it safely landed" OK, I'm done here.

[@adamhurst9491]

They tried to lamd in Grozny and were denied clearance. They didnt decide to cross the Caspian Sea. The Russians made them in the hopes that it would crash to the bottom of the Sea.

[@stgallen1980]

JUST TO BE CLEAR: ONLY RUSSIA HAS DONE THIS, LIKE MH17 on the BORDER WITH UKRAINE,

[@05DoitforBrock]

CNN don’t forget about MH17

[@curseknight5]

While the war from Russia continues on and taking innocent lives of regular people, why are there sports federations like the ISU still reconsidering to bring Russian athletes back onto the international stage.

[@gooner72]

Those pilots deliberately flew back to safety. They clearly didn't want the aircraft getting into Russian hands, where evidence would be......... shall we say altered....... for any independent investigation.

[@CharlieB.Garcia]

Most Horrible thing, Freaking Russia most terrible thing they did attacking unarmed people civilians. Dang

[@lukeamato423]

May have? They did .its obvious af

[@shortrandomusername]

They refused to let the plane land in Russia, but asked that it fly 400km across the sea to Kazakhstan, likely in the hope the plane never makes it and all the evidence ends up on the sea floor... It is clear that Russia cannot provide any guarantees that this wouldn't happen again. The question then is why some airlines are still flying to Russia and what this means in terms of their safety obligations and legal culpability. Given that the vast majority of the Russian fleet cannot fly outside the country, who is going to fly?

[@BlueWhiteKnight]

Nothing is obvious during war..only propaganda is..

[@jallopenoman1126]

@luke: you do know that. Were you there? Are you the investigator? You don’t know anything

[@lukeamato423]

@jallopenoman1126 I develop air defense systems

[@lukeamato423]

@jallopenoman1126 what do you think a bird did it? Piss off ivan

[@Viper266]

The world needs to wake up and stop being a scared little child towards Putin. Grow a pair and hold them accountable.

[@Optimist_Insan]

I’m a native of Azerbaijan and to me Russia and Putin are like a rotten walnut that looks hard from outside until you crack and open it.

[@VictorZorin]

Every international airline that flies to Russia must be sued for negligence ... Russia is at war! Making money by doing flights to country at war is a criminal offence.

[@sabinafarajova3081]

If the 13-year-old boy’s mother is Chechen and he was flying to her on his winter holiday, do you really see the problem in how he was getting there? maybe his mother “chose” the wrong country of citizenship?

[@Shadeoflaziness]

US can always quickly determine rather Russia is responsible but when it comes to Israel, the US always has to wait for the Israeli government to decide if they want to be responsible.

[@pen4hire27]

What happened is tragic but I can never trust western media to be factual where Russia is concerned.

[@SpringIsBACK]

It was RUSSIAN bloggers who 1st pointed out this was likely a Russian missile strike. Instead of a knee jerk bigoted response, try keeping your foot in your mouth. Permanently.

[@Shadeoflaziness]

@ oh yes, Russian blogger is a great intel source. And make me.

[@lcg3092]

@@SpringIsBACK I mean, this was Russia, but he is not wrong about the double standards with Israel, even when Israeli newspapers report on something the US response is "we'll let Israel respond for the IDF"

[@Shadeoflaziness]

Ahh, so it's not about the Russian part, but the Israel part that got someone fuming? Well, unfortunately, in order to get that shoe in my mouth you will have to call Mossad to do it.

[@NicolaW72]

Thank you very much for the Update!

[@gooner72]

Seeing those holes in the fuselage.................. that's anti aircraft fire, either explosive shells from an anti aircraft weapon or fragmentation holes from a messile.

[@Kneepuck]

38 of 57 died, 29 survived. Hmmmm, talking head math is different I guess. Good thing the field reporter uses regular math. a simpleminded guy like me sort of understands.

[@nicknames5141]

The coward trump won't even call Putin out for attacking a passenger jet.

[@jonathanpasch6604]

"Pilot Blog" KZbin channel really did a great job explaining things.

[@paulmitchell2468]

Yup, Denys is brilliant.

[@JohnReilly-r4j]

It convinced it was shot down..there was an explosion on impact so there’s bound to be shrapnel damage to the fuselage that was left intact ..

[@Retroscoop]

It that case it hasn't been a terrible accurate shot, is it ?

[@blueflame0003]

Russia has done this before, and nothing will happen...who wants to be inside a plane with a country out of control😮😮😮