US Shoot Down Passenger! | Mayday Air Disaster

[@rsa_doluse7962]

"We investigated ourselves, and found that we are innocent of the atrocity we have committed"

[@b-trucker7717]

Kinda like how Russia shot down 2 airlines down and still were innocent 🤔

[@jasonantonio7906]

at least it is believable, knowing how iranian behaves, their military terrorize the whole world up until now

[@ryanzer0170]

@@rsa_doluse7962 we followed every rule on the book. Not our fault the Iranian pilot/government were being douches. Next time, don't play dumb dames and out people's lives at risk.

[@breadone_]

@@ryanzer0170 did you even watch the video? the ship was outside of their approved area and inside iran's waters. they didn't use the squawk codes to properly identify the plane, one of the crew misread the altitude as descending when it never did. nothing BUT mistakes. so tell me, how were the pilots being "douches" here? the yanks acted on emotion and bad information while pretending to be the heroes, as always.

[@DewYou-zn4ny]

Lol ironic huh!!?

[@hassaanalhachim]

What's so outrageous is that both William C. Rogers and the air warfare coordinator both received medals and ribbons after the incident.

[@jbeach1964]

I totally agree! Over 200 civilians were innocently killed by a US Military error and the ship receives a hero's welcome when it returns to San Diego? And, as a further insult, the commanding officers also receive commendations related to the incident? Absolutely appalling and inexcusable! 😪

[@К.Стоянов]

Yes it is.

[@CashDry-s6l]

and when someone ask how he got it he will just say oh i shot down a civ airliner

[@revolutionnow5227]

USA really is a cancer in this world. So many atrocities. An they celebrate it. What a sick nation

[@maximusmeridius2306]

How you get rewarded for making a mistake 😮

[@medojed8266]

I am not sure if it is the same flight but I am certain this is the one. Iran was using civilian squawk code for their aircraft to get close to US Navy in order to bomb them, which is a war crime. You cannot use a civilian squawk code for ANY military aircraft. It has also been documented iirc that this civilian airliner DID not adhere to any of the US Navy's orders, and refused contact with the US Navy. Documentations like these are accurate when it comes to flights where it's passengers or flight crew is alive to give a testimony, this is not the case. In other words, there is no evidence supporting the claim if Iran, Iran air lines and there is also no claim of supporting US Navy's perspective. So in reality it is a gray zone, I will brain Iran for committing this war crime which could have caused the death of all those passengers however I will not blame the US nor Iran air lines.

[@gibbo_303]

alot of the crew didnt make a mistake here, it was only a couple of people that made a mistake

[@nimo6972]

Welcome to Liberalism.

[@agan9993]

IN USA they do

[@Wolfgang_AmaDEEZ_NUTZart]

@@nimo6972 Ah yes, Liberalism, the driving force of US military.

[@TMBpk]

Americans in a nutshell Soviets shoot down Korean Air - barbaric Americans shoot down Iranian Air - oops sorry

[@your_mother_likes_geography]

bruh the americans gave them multiple warnings

[@aznsbd]

At least we learn from our mistakes. I don't think we have ever shot down another civilian airliner where as the Russians and Iranians have both shot down an airliner in the last decade.

[@medojed8266]

I am not sure if it is the same flight but I am certain this is the one. Iran was using civilian squawk code for their aircraft to get close to US Navy in order to bomb them, which is a war crime. You cannot use a civilian squawk code for ANY military aircraft. It has also been documented iirc that this civilian airliner DID not adhere to any of the US Navy's orders, and refused contact with the US Navy. Documentations like these are accurate when it comes to flights where it's passengers or flight crew is alive to give a testimony, this is not the case. In other words, there is no evidence supporting the claim if Iran, Iran air lines and there is also no claim of supporting US Navy's perspective. So in reality it is a gray zone, I will brain Iran for committing this war crime which could have caused the death of all those passengers however I will not blame the US nor Iran air lines.

[@ojaygeorges8000]

What a load of rubbish ... and to top it up, the court didn't tell the truth, which is the crew of a warship was responsible for wrong reading of the commercial airline going up instead of going down ... and to make it worse ... they have been welcomed home as hearos .... and given the middle of recognition ... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@shannongriffith2092]

They were requested to identify themselves multiple times and they did not they didn't obey a single command that they were given they didn't communicate with the ship it was a war zone whether it was Iranian Waters or not. We went into foreign Waters during world war II during Vietnam during the Persian Gulf war etcetera etcetera etcetera that's what happens in wars. Have you never heard the term behind enemy lines​@@ojaygeorges8000

[@Captain_Razor_88]

I feel like that P-8 could have warned civilian airlines of the ongoing situation.

[@CalibreNueve95]

It was a P3

[@brianshickey]

My father was a WWII pilot so I’ve become an aviation enthusiast over the years. This show is absolutely fantastic in that it’s entertaining and extremely informative. Everyone walks away having learned quite a bit about this wonderful topic. Mentor Pilot is another phenomenal KZbin channel if you’re interested in learning even more about aviation.

[@janes5344]

My dad too. Thanks for the tip

[@alibuolayyan9038]

Reasonable? America has all this technology and it was not able to differentiate between a civilian plane and a military plane

[@Jprager]

Planes aren’t even allowed in restricted airspace like that, after you’ve received fair warning over ATC, they should’ve moved out, but they didn’t listen

[@reasonableperson6259]

@@Jprager The US warship was in Iranian waters, not international waters. It says that in the video. They should not have been there at all, they were in an entirely different zone than the one they were assigned. If the captain had stayed where he was supposed to those 200 people would still be alive today. People are so quick to defend the US military but than criticize other militaries when they shoot down civilian aircraft. The truth is that it's no different when we do it.

[@Jprager]

@@reasonableperson6259 they had jurisdiction otherwise they wouldn’t be safeguarding the area to begin with given the Iran/iraqi conflict.

[@necsoiub]

@@Jprager How do you know it was restricted airspace? You have to inform the authorities to declare restricted airspace. They did that? I suppose not. They just went there for some action and 290 civilians died.

[@Jprager]

@@necsoiub any mission which requires testing/com FTX sessions restricted airspace at any point in time. All the pilots had to do was respond to the request/questioning, and they didn’t even do that. It’s their Iranian ATCs fault

[@ifykykcookie]

I disagree with the governments assessment. Total lack of training and analysis of the equipment they were using. I place the blame of this accident on our military. If this same situation were reversed and one of our passenger airlines were shot down with these same circumstances, the US would have retaliated harshly. Fair is fair. Our government needs to take accountability for their negligence. I totally support our military and my family members that serve, but we need to accept responsibility for this. I hope Captain Rogers has learned his lesson to double check what his crew tell him. Never take anyones word for anything.

[@joulesbeef]

I had a huge problem with the idea that they couldnt contact a civilian craft on civilian channels..having that ability is the kind of idea that someone with zero education could grasp is a good idea to have.

[@SethBrowder]

You wouldn’t have time to “double check” information with an aircraft closing in on you. With the information he was given he believed it to be an F-14 performing an attack style altitude change. That was misinformation, and was the fault of the officer whose job was to track the aircraft. The captains job is to decide whether to engage or not based on the information he has. Within 10 miles of an approaching enemy jet you have to a make that decision quickly or your entire crew loses their life. He did what he thought was right at the time. It’s unfortunate the officer panicked and provided misinformation. It’s also unfortunate the radar detected improper squawk code and air speed. All these were factors in the decision to engage. Not all on the captain in this situation.

[@medojed8266]

I am not sure if it is the same flight but I am certain this is the one. Iran was using civilian squawk code for their aircraft to get close to US Navy in order to bomb them, which is a war crime. You cannot use a civilian squawk code for ANY military aircraft. It has also been documented iirc that this civilian airliner DID not adhere to any of the US Navy's orders, and refused contact with the US Navy. Documentations like these are accurate when it comes to flights where it's passengers or flight crew is alive to give a testimony, this is not the case. In other words, there is no evidence supporting the claim if Iran, Iran air lines and there is also no claim of supporting US Navy's perspective. So in reality it is a gray zone, I will brain Iran for committing this war crime which could have caused the death of all those passengers however I will not blame the US nor Iran air lines.

[@foghornfoggyface]

You probably supported the Iraq war. What responsibility has the US taken for that invasion that has left Iraq in ruins and millions dead? The US get away with every heinous atrocity they commit outside their borders. How any moral conscientious person can continue to support the US military simply dumbfounds me.

[@Stingray4]

I truly feel that the person that declared that it was descending is at fault. As the captain is going off of the information that he was given. But the fact that the ship was in Iran waters is bad. Sad that this situation happened none the less. Love these videos.

[@tygodegier3110]

At least there is clarity on what happened. And i agree that not only the captain is at fault, that he was fed vague info made him make a bad decision.

[@janes5344]

This whole subject is fascinating and agonizing at the same time.

[@janes5344]

@@tygodegier3110 sadly, that happens in so many incidents of aggression and combat.

[@necsoiub]

The passenger jet was gaining altitude to reach the cruising altitude but somehow the ship's crew deduced it was descending and gaining speed. That's a huge question mark! 40:39 that theory doesn't make any sense because they are trained personnel and there's no way nobody rechecked the target's speed and altitude.

[@chippyjohn1]

They wanted to shoot it down.

[@medojed8266]

@@chippyjohn1 I am not sure if it is the same flight but I am certain this is the one. Iran was using civilian squawk code for their aircraft to get close to US Navy in order to bomb them, which is a war crime. You cannot use a civilian squawk code for ANY military aircraft. It has also been documented iirc that this civilian airliner DID not adhere to any of the US Navy's orders, and refused contact with the US Navy. Documentations like these are accurate when it comes to flights where it's passengers or flight crew is alive to give a testimony, this is not the case. In other words, there is no evidence supporting the claim if Iran, Iran air lines and there is also no claim of supporting US Navy's perspective. So in reality it is a gray zone, I will brain Iran for committing this war crime which could have caused the death of all those passengers however I will not blame the US nor Iran air lines.

[@chippyjohn1]

@@medojed8266 Using civilan squawk code is not a war crime. Second, the US navy has no power in giving orders near another country. Their power resides In the US, not outside. Same issue near China, they think they have some authority. Same here in Australia.

[@rfi-cryptolab4251]

CYA

[@Atari2600Gamer]

@@medojed8266 stop repeating yourself, you're full of crap anyway

[@rasha6334]

Incredible level of incompetency! Poor training, lack of understanding the sophisticated technology, and downright poor procedures that favors hostility versus caution! Then the awards that were given! Oh My!

[@tygodegier3110]

At least we know what happened and we can judge for ourselves. Those awards are outrageous indeed.

[@stephenmapeka7774]

Hi!whose level of incompetence are you referring to exactly,IranAir pilots or US Naval crusier commanders?

[@jasonantonio7906]

atleast this is just a few mistakes... the fault is on the iran, for using a commercial runway for their f-14's....

[@aashishlimbu2458]

@@jasonantonio7906 Hhahahaha

[@nayankaushik8617]

And to top it all off, the report says that the accident was NOT the result of any culpable conduct by any US Naval Personnel

[@haghighi251]

They could have changed their position to see if the plane would follow them but they were going into Iran's territory why?!!! The US has never published any document or footage showing that Iran attacked their helicopter. There is no recorded conversation between the ship and helicopter; the US provided this story themselves. Even after more than 40 years, the US hasn't released documents related to this tragedy, suggesting they are aware of intentional wrongdoing. The US sold F-14s to Iran knowing these aircraft were designed for air-to-air combat and incapable of attacking ground targets, including their ships. The claim that an F-14 was at a commercial airport in the midst of war raises skepticism. Just imagine an F14 was in Bandar Abbas airport and you could have realized it (which means you good knew what was going on in that airport because you were listening to the radio communications and knew where the F14 was next to the commercial plane!!!), How could you have not realized the commercial plane was flying from there and now is in the air? Iran had only 80 F-14s, some non-operational due to lack of facilities, stored in Air Force bases. It's implausible that the US, monitoring radio communications, would miss a commercial plane taking off from Bandar Abbas airport, given the distinct size and speed differences between an F-14 and a commercial aircraft. During the war, the US intercepted Iranian communications, shared information with Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and used AWACS planes to monitor airspace, enabling them to detect any threat against their warships from Tehran or Isfahan, over 600 km away. The warship had access to US Air Force support in Dubai, Saudi Arabia, and neighboring countries with military bases. This incident was not accidental; the US had a strategic plan. Despite their claims of Iranian attacks during the war, they never released any footage to substantiate these allegations.

[@LittleTed1000]

I have some suspicions about your motivations here. But here's a question that will work out what type of actor you are here. Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752. That was a conspiracy too, I would assume? Iran had a "strategic plan" when those people were killed?

[@stephenmapeka7774]

This was not a navy destroyer but a cruiser which isn't easily maneuvered,changing directions to check if it's been followed like it was a rabbit evading chasing dog doesn't make sense.2nd issue:If Iranian military didn't have means to intercept or pick up radio communications over their waters &airspace then how were they gonna track one of their countries' missing commercial aircraft had it occured?

[@m2heavyindustries378]

@@LittleTed1000 Of course it is some rag wearing actor! Always a paid allarhu-alkbar troll posting here in awful English, a cheap, repeating broken record with these 'binlardens'.

[@NyteFlyer-e9v]

Any aircraft can be outfitted with weapon hard points. It's a time consuming operation and costs a bit. But can be done. Also even if no such hard points are equipped it's possible, easy to load the aircraft with explosives. And do not forget 9/11 when ordinary passenger aircraft were used as impact weapons against major buildings in the USA. Saying the aircraft isn't posing a positive danger is reckless. In a potentially hostile encounter with unknown, unresponsive approaching aircraft , the time to decide is limited. It's easy to arm chair quarterback after the event. But in fact, they were on station facing a hostile foreign nation which has used terror attacks. So the captain needs to weigh the possibility of being attacked vs aggressive response. The united states has a known territory respect of 12 miles off a nations shores. Many countries jump about claiming up to and over 200 miles, while at the same time ignoring the US 12 mile territory. We are on record at the UN as having said we will only recognize 12 miles, period. Beyond that we are on record of calling water and air in that area as free open navigation territory. The Iranian aircraft even passenger aircraft are required to signal their status, and intention when hailed. If no response is given, no signal identified then the decision is based on whether the unknown is carrying anti ship weapons. If so the response must be made before the possible aggressor gets into positive launch range. Added to all of this, the fact of dealing with aggressive gun boats, that would distract effective defense, as well as the very real possibility that that the misdirection of IFF and silence may have been ordered by Iranian officials seeking an incident. We have to assume it was getting too close, it posed a threat, sadly the decision had to be made, shoot. So an incident occurred, probably one wanted by the officials that authorized the aircrafts approach and actions. We must not forget that terror attacks often sacrifice the attackers, as martyrs to a cause. Could some official in the Iranian government have planned the incident to test, or create the situation for political purposes? There will never be a true explanation of the planes actions. But the simple fact is a military ship must act to defend itself from any unknown. This fact applies to ships of every nation. Everyone must agree on national reach of territory, and agree on proper response to a challenge made by a military vessel.

[@iamlonelyaf1434]

@@NyteFlyer-e9v Not too intelligent. So we should consider every AA, United or Delta aircraft as us weapons?

[@Jchow08]

Thank you for the investigative journalism Mayday, souls onboard that flight may now finally rest in peace

[@sayemurrahman7975]

They could have changed their position and see if the plane follows them.

[@casparv]

Ship is wayyy too slow for that

[@meair]

they couldn't do that safely with armed boats in the area and one of their main guns jammed

[@gabel1661]

I feel like this is what happened to that missing Malaysia flight

[@tygodegier3110]

@@gabel1661 there must be more debris/bodies found. If i remember correctly there are only pieces found that washed up on the shore around Asia. What are your thoughts?

[@princeo15]

@@tygodegier3110 the USN knows how to cover up with their previous experience

[@tygodegier3110]

@@princeo15 sadly that is true.

[@zsszzzdwa5724]

that was probably a suicide

[@grifftown]

dude you can't just say the aircraft is descending, say its a psychological syndrome and not elaborate. That was the entire reason on why it got shot down

[@joulesbeef]

yeah that was a poor explanation. Did you see the one where the plane took off on the wrong runway with construction work going on? there was a lot of info telling them it was the wrong runway. But a form of confirmation bias, had them only seeing what they expected to see and not seeing all teh signs that said they were in the wrong place. This would be a similar thing. seeing what you expect to see. there have been others, the guy who shut off the wrong engine. did similar. or the guys who ignore the ground proximity alarm because they are sure they are somewhere else in the sky. which you should never do, its better to obey a false warning than miss a real one. pull up worry if its false later. in flying confirmation bias is such a huge thing, which is why they say trust your instruments.

[@grifftown]

@@joulesbeef Yup I've seen most of these as I've watched hours of aviation disasters and why they happened. In this case in particular I believe the failure was no one else double-checked that the plane was actually declining. I know this is a bit different because this is on a battleship but the same concept of bias is still spot on. This is why I believe always having someone double-check and question things leads to greater safety, hence why on airplanes we have the pilot and the co-pilot. Communication and attention to detail are key in preventing these type of tragedies

[@TonyTarantinoo]

Facts, was just thinking if the Captain walked over to double check the aircraft’s altitude he would himself would have seen that commercial aircraft was indeed ascending not descending, just sounds lazy too me how no one double checked the aircraft attacking them was actually on a descending flight path towards them

[@grifftown]

@@TonyTarantinoo 💯

[@moosehead4497]

Capt. Richard McKenna Is absolutely correct. Ad much as they tried to play it we didn't want to shoot they were clearly looking for action. Having the film crew on board no doubt encouraged them

[@DeepanjanThakur]

US: Shoots a civilian aircraft because they felt they could get attacked when they're roaming around thousands of miles away from their country.

[@b-trucker7717]

Or is it that you libturds don't read the full story and makeup one to fit ya agenda, they were patrolling the waters from civilians ships being attacked 🤦‍♂️

[@ReiSumicad]

Know the story why they were there

[@iamlonelyaf1434]

@@ReiSumicad For no reason other than protect oil deliveries to american SUV owners in Bumfuck Idaho?

[@memphiskim6721]

With reporters onboard and the ship crews gungho for action, this disaster is bound to happen.

[@crazeelazee7524]

Reminder that despite the US insistence that it was all a mistake, the air warfare coordinator received a Navy commendation medal and the captain received a Legion of merit medal.

[@medojed8266]

So? The captain is not responsible for checking the information, he is responsible to shout orders based on the information. If he gets information that an aircraft is decsending, refusing to communicate with the US Navy, he will order it to shoot down. No matter how you look at it, the captain is in the right. He made the choice that presumably could have saved the crew.

[@sabine8419]

This is embarrassing and sad. You'd expect top military personnel to be smarter than that.

[@jeandenbelg]

What a disgusting world!

[@jeandenbelg]

People of Gia, everyone gain consciousness!

[@everestcheats2622]

You mean, what a disgusting waste of a country? Hopefully they vote for Biden again, and they continue to fade into irrelevance

[@luispacheco6807]

When are the US we talk about a mistake. When are others we say delibered.

[@zipzonker1576]

Great English, haji.

[@Oklahomarailfan.]

I don’t blame the captain for the decision to shoot what he thought was a hostile aircraft down, I do however blame the people giving him blatantly wrong info that the plane was descending and speeding up in a attack profile

[@kamespinosarojas9225]

indeed.

[@RMSTitanicWSL]

Unfortunately, when you're in a war zone, the instinct is to assume people are getting ready to attack you.......

[@Stingray4]

Yep. Exactly.

[@SirBarth]

There are several folks that would disagree with you: Commander David Carlson is one who has said that Captain Rogers had acted very aggressively in situations that did not require aggression. According to Capt. Richard McKenna (surface commander of Capt. Will Rogers), Vincennes was initially authorized to send a helicopter to investigate the situation with the gun boats. Later on when he realizes that Vincennes had turned north and swapped positions with Montgomery, he commanded Vincennes to leave the helicopter in place and return immediately. According to an interview after his retirement, Capt. McKenna believed that he felt the situation was not initially out of control and maybe Vincennes was looking for trouble. He said "my own personal opinion is it really did feel that they were looking for action when they went to see the Elmer Montgomery, um my own feeling is that the situation was not out of control, it was really my call and yet even though they were assigned another station, they took it upon themselves to be there and to that extent I feel that you know, I mean that's that's where the general feeling and not not just my own, comes that maybe they were looking for trouble".

[@RMSTitanicWSL]

@@SirBarth Military people have it drilled into them to be aggressive in a situation. Unfortunately, there's a wide range in what people feel is "too aggressive". Capt. McKenna was doubtlessly speaking truthfully from his point of view. Unfortunately, Capt. Rogers was also probably acting in good faith, too. Had McKenna suddenly found himself in over his head, I guarantee that he'd have given a different interview--assuming he was alive to give one. That being said, I found it appalling US Navy ships lacked the ability to communicate on civilian frequencies.

[@aljilhano5822]

Americans be like; let’s shoot civilian airplanes and we get commended maintaining poise and confidence under fire and the legion of merit😅

[@737tech]

We need to keep our military at home.

[@DaSolarflareguy74]

Upload newer episodes of Air crash investigation

[@CosmicRPG]

Right now in National Geographic every wendsday are uploading the chapters of Season 24, those chapters never upload in America, was stay in UK.

[@sunyuqin4724]

​@@CosmicRPGhe just wanna watch free stuffs if not he will cry like a babeh

[@mr_kayyy]

It's not a movie, thus real life stuffs.

[@ralts6464]

Maybe because there are less air accidents now

[@Roc_ky]

@@ralts6464 Sad for our entertainment purposes. 😢

[@bliss049]

So sad, it's a crime

[@MATTbwnbw]

These adverts have a cool documentary inbetween

[@LavaLord141]

Please can you guys do Lion air 610 cause you guys haven’t done that yet

[@philipbuckley759]

and no one was held responsible.....

[@rcrinsea]

Has America EVER held any of its people accountable? Remember My Lai. And Trump’s new Secy of Defense, Pete Hegseth, is known for believing no American should be held accountable for war crimes.

[@PJ-si2po]

Can not identify the difference in between a passenger jet and a F-14

[@KelvinDiaz-x3l]

This episode had me on edge I was so hoping the captain would have not shot the plane down what a tragedy.

[@jesterr7133]

Like many of the tragedies that are covered on this show, there were a variety of factors that all conspired together to create this terrible tragedy. Both the U.S.and Iran share culpability to some degree for creating the factors that caused this tragedy. Like many of the cases covered on this show, the U.S. Captain was in a situation that the majority of people are fortunate enough to never be in. If he had not taken action, based on the information he had at the time, he believed he was putting his sailors' life at risk. While I believe he made the proper decision based on the information he had, he should not have received a commendation for it. Whether he was wrong or not, a large number of innocent people died. That is not something to celebrate.

[@zorion3324]

Mistake or no mistake such things happen sometimes, but you must pay 100 million dollars for each person on board for your mistake.

[@agan9993]

Iran filed a case against the United States in the International Court of Justice (ICJ) seeking compensation and holding the US accountable for the incident. In 1996, the United States agreed to settle the case by paying $61.8 million as compensation to the families of the victims, without formally admitting legal liability or apologizing.

[@zorion3324]

Just the cost of the aircraft is over 80 million dollars, shame on the U.S., not even an apology, that would have been the least thing to do, apologize, as I have always said the U.S. government's morals are derived from the DOLLAR, just as the dollar goes up and down, so does the morals of this government, the days of the DOLLAR are numbered.

[@b.entranceperium]

They could have asked for visual confirmation. I guarantee there were many allied fighters in that area that could have intercepted that airliner and confirmed. Incompetency at its highest...

[@ChicoLLachowski]

Intercept a f14 from their pov u mean? U make terrible military decisions.

[@b.entranceperium]

@ChicoLLachowski Yeah, I guess I should listen to someone that writes like a 3rd grader. Lead us, Colonel...

[@MrJesmal007]

Y they didnt use their binoculars for visual

[@CruzXz]

But why didn’t the flight respond

[@anas-ee6qx]

Are you kidding me?!? Those incompetent US clowns killed a plane full of innocent people and then got rewarded?!?!

[@roy12525]

Captain Rogers and his crew should be in jail.

[@gibbo_303]

no, only his staff that gave incorrect information should be in jail

[@everestcheats2622]

@@gibbo_303 Yes. I also do not believe that this ship didn't have the necessary communications equipment to communicate of regular air-traffic radio. There was never a conversation between the heli and the ship (that supposedly took fire). It was all a cover up to hide their stupidity and cowardice

[@the-digital-idiot]

What did you expect the captain to do? He was told there was a hostile aircraft heading right for him. Are you expecting him to, via dark magic, infer that his crew is wrong? If anyone should be in jail, it's the person who misidentified it, although even then, there's other factors at play here. The government should definitely be paying significant fines to the families though, at very least.

[@ronojpayeng637]

Why didn't the pilot receive a distress call? What went wrong with the plane? Was it a homemade plane?

[@michellereed5638]

Why did Iranian authorities not warn the Air Traffic Controllers of the fighting going on during this time and advise the air space above hazardous? When other countries have had something like this going on do they not declare no fly zones? As I watch this, I am crying for those innocent civilians who died. I am a United States Citizen born here. I feel terrible for what happened to those people. Certainly there must have been an adequate investigation to prevent this from happening again! Misidentifying Civilian jet as an emeny F-14 is a horrific mistake. Are planes radios not programmed to monitor frequencies for such emergencies happening in their areas? IF not they should be. NOW back to the program.

[@agan9993]

i believe no war going on between country at the time. it's some people with gun and fast boat making fuss in oil ships and us want to stop them. it's clearly shown they looking for action. there is no proof that attack on helicopter. maybe after shooting plane they may come up with this to make it look like war is going on. correct me if i'm wrong.

[@cherylmcwilliams7238]

There was a lot going on with exchanging fire, a jammed gun, having the change position, protecting another vessel, helo receiving fire and an airliner with no response. All rolled into a heated moment. What you do at that exact time, we weren't there and in that situation with having to react. Sitting at TV or computer screen watching the "after the effects" is a lot different than being involved at that moment of life and death situations in the job that is required. I know this from being in Flight Operations most of my life. Sometimes you don't have the time to think of "what if"...

[@mwat22]

@@cherylmcwilliams7238 they could have asked their superiors if there are reports or confirmation of military fighters operating in their area of engagement

[@debelix]

With all this high tech on their disposal the idiots managed to mistake a civilian airliner for enemy's F-14!?

[@juanleon3875]

Mayday Air Disaster is my favorite show, they literally go back in time to record everything that happened, they literally go to missing aircraft and get the fdr and vcr and once they are done using it they put it back in the ocean to not disturb the spirits. (This is a joke btw)

[@misskitty2133]

Check out Mentour pilot! He’s great too

[@juanleon3875]

@@misskitty2133 I went and he says it in a story format not in a story format with a twist at the end and his videos are too long they are 40 minutes.

[@yours2injesus2]

HOW SAD

[@BlazerFusionchaser2155]

I understand this was most likely a incident but they probably should have answered the calls from the destroyer. But the fact is this was in like 1980, and it’s 2024. The us military has way better equipment, and some of it is so good, they could see a plane from 100 or more miles away.

[@einsiol]

Why did they not just try to move the ship out of the path of the plane to see if it would change direction and indicate it was following the ship? They had plenty of options to avoid shooting down the plane. They could have contacted the airport and Iranian air traffic control, to help with contacting the plane. They could have looked up with binoculars. It's baffling to listen to them continue justifying this war crime, even blaming Iran.

[@beerye9331]

Civilians are equated to collateral fluff n such.

[@everestcheats2622]

Russia, china, america... all the same. They only care about money and power.

[@Yourlocaldogggioowner]

The fact that this happend on july 3 (my b-day) makes me feel so bad and makes ne regret celebrating it, bc i know on by b-day the crash gets older 😢 (my b-day is 3.7 or 7.3 if ur American 2011) bye have a nice day or night ❤❤❤!!!

[@EvergonPro]

Usa navy has no business there

[@yankhofreemansomanje6433]

I can't believe this actually happened. Imagine the outcome if the shoe had been on the other foot 😢

[@jesterr7133]

If I am the captain of a passenger jet flying in a combat zone and I hear a warning like that, I am responding just to make sure they aren't talking to me.

[@sabine8419]

They didn't know it was a combat zone, because it wasn't an official combat zone.

[@NASWOG]

You can’t even get the title grammatically correct 😂

[@ikhlaquechan7463]

Americans can not se the difference between a civil plane and a war plane??

[@zipzonker1576]

And you know how to read radar in a combat situation? Put down the Cheetos and think, junior.

[@ikhlaquechan7463]

@@zipzonker1576 Yes I do. And what combat situation? Why is US destroying muslim countries?

[@m2heavyindustries378]

@@ikhlaquechan7463 Did you get your English education from the back of a cereal box? Try again, and type less arabic in your comment this time! You can do it cutie!

[@m2heavyindustries378]

Probably doesn't even understand that reference lol. Has to google it to check. Bet.

[@ikhlaquechan7463]

@@m2heavyindustries378 It is easy. Check the transponder code. And also the speed, direction, altiude. Try to communicate on all air freq in the area.

[@richardcarrington3487]

They were looking for action

[@adelphosgames2996]

But how come that the commercial flight couldn’t respond to the distress call

[@QuickflixWifhat]

We never know if they really did. They never released the original records

[@ailx_xoxogamboa3267]

It's in the video.the navy is using a radio frequency that the Iran air didn't have because firstly they are commercial planes.

[@grundged]

The 2nd code sqwuak was a lie, fyi.

[@Sahilprakash1999]

7:16 Captain William Rogers III: set General Quarters LT Commander Vic Guillory: Officer of the deck set General Quarters

[@salesiqalita1760]

Thank you for public documentary show of this on how critical decision is derived at in defense and combat that civil air authority best approach is warranted to the highest degree in order to save lives.

[@BookwormVlogz]

They took the plane down on purpose if you ask me but if it was USA plain they wouldn't shut it down .

[@differenttakethanmost]

For what reason?

[@colestock9980]

If you think about it they had no choice. Confirmation bias was leading them to believe they were getting attacked in a combat situation. Confusion about the schedule, and lack of definitive identifiers towards the plane during communications that led to no response was enough to make them believe that they were under attack from the air as well. Obviously the whole thing was handled really poorly from both sides of the engagement and was very easily preventable with correct action from either one side

[@gibbo_303]

please pass grade 4 before you comment on something you know nothing about

[@BookwormVlogz]

@@gibbo_303 so passive aggressive get well. you literally commented on all my comments your a creep and your screaming for attention

[@BookwormVlogz]

@@gibbo_303 go play some Roblox .

[@FranciscoBanatao-zx7jw]

They have or gave warning in this aircraft but they did not respond what they did is to fire

[@rfi-cryptolab4251]

Inexcusable.

[@LunaNyaVT]

Still baffles me that the navy doesn’t use civilian squawk codes when telling them that they’re in danger of being shot down. 😕 6760 would have been way easier to say.

[@mtsaaaaaaa]

Ive long thought the navy saying it squaked mode 2 was a lie. Seems exactly like something they would sah after this.

[@matts156]

It squawked mode 2 because the IDS operator had his ball tab (cursor) on Bandar Abbas airfield, where the Iranian F-14 was sitting. You can have a target in what is called close control (the operator's display shows detailed data on that target), but the ball tab can be on a different target and the IFF system will interrogate that target. Ergo, they got a mode 2 response.

[@agan9993]

@@matts156 yes but still its a lie. they have time to cross check it again after the plane is in the air. and it's shown only mode 3 but they want to show some action to the TV craw in that war ship. after the hit they cooked up some story like some small boat fired at the chopper what a joke. so they go into that firing boat and end up in iran water space which means they are trespassing first from air and later via ship. and no proof of that boat firing story. they know how to build story to cover up. so they add reason what points they can't hide from world.

[@MrJesmal007]

Ship should have changed its course

[@GigiDuruDuru]

poor judgement and gross incompetence on the whole crew of Vincent . Shooting until the gun got broken with no success on sinking anything as retaliation for some imaginary warning shots towards an undamaged helicopter , broadcasting only on military frequencies like misreading the altitude of a climbing aircraft with diving, thinking that an hostile aircraft would wait to get below 10 miles to shoot an Exocet anti ship missile with a range of at least 50 miles and they still fired after they received a warning of possible civilian aircraft. They should have all been convinced of at least, incompetence and gross negligence . This crew was looking for a fight from the beginning!

[@sartiwitt4892]

Never asked Montgomery what he had on his radar

[@brianaumali6591]

Things happen quickly in the heat of battle that can be seen differently after its over when there is more time to evaluate your options yet if it happened again its likely the same thing would happen with the same outcome!!!😢😢😢

[@sabine8419]

That's why they are supposed to have nerves of steel to be soldiers. You need to stay cool and composed and focus on the facts even in dire situations.

[@stephenwright8824]

​​@@sabine8419sailors are not soldiers. Several of my relatives were soldiers and only one was a sailor. There's a difference in training and what's expected of them by their commanders which makes sailors very different. If I hadn't been born with a birth defect that prevented me from serving in the military, id have dissed both of them and joined the Air Force. (And my last name has nothing to do with it.)

[@poraliyogi6813]

American consciousness. You can see this throughout in USA wherever you go...Hospitals, Shops, etc...

[@m.hosseinmahmoodi]

So, wait a minute! US navy comes in to Iran's waters, they shoot down a plane because they had "Scenario Fulfilment" (and made up a "Scenario" because they wanted action. Not to mention there was a report crew onboard) and US found its own personal free of any responsibly and said "Iran must share responsibility for hazarding one of their civilian airliners in close proximity to hostilities". And they gave them medals for "exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer". America MURDERED 290 people and didn't even apologize for killing 290 humans and paid 150,000 or 300,000 USD for each person that they killed. Despicable

[@Sahilprakash1999]

28:33 at 9:54 AM Iran Air Flight 655 has been shot down by USS Vincennes surface-to-air missile

[@petewalton1998]

What would happen if another country did the same thing it would be called an act of war but the stars bars and cowards say oops 🖕

[@pandibbarman]

Well Iran also shot down a passenger plane after the dead of their general they also said oops

[@silvertongdevil1]

They were in a undeclared war that's why the Americans were there protecting the rest of the world's ships!

[@gibbo_303]

@@pandibbarman same with russia shooing down mh17

[@aljilhano5822]

They’re shooting someone based on their delusions! Pathetic!

[@johndelconte9915]

Isn’t it nice to watch a video from the comfort of your couch and judge the ones keeping you safe?

[@nevvee]

@johndelconte9915 tell that to the victims' families.

[@johndelconte9915]

@@nevvee get A dictionary.

[@johndelconte9915]

@@nevvee mistakes or accidents are not “intentional”. That’s all I’m saying. If they were there would be more people in jail.

[@hanesstucco638]

Why is there no explaination as to why the passenger jet did not respond and heed the warnings to change course?

[@admcstabby]

I love how Americans and international citizens alike intentionally use ignorance and sheer lack of common sense to blame the American military for this disaster (and others). Let's go over the facts so with a smug look of satisfaction I can tell you are how prejudice you truly are. 1. United States warships weren't in the Strait of Hormuz because of some need of dominance or sense of arrogance, they were patrolling the area because there had been a series of attacks on civilian cargo ships committed by Iran. 2. Not even a year prior, the Iraqi navy had "mistaken" the USS Stark as an Iranian warship and attacked it, killing 37 Americans. So, there was already a sense of tension 3. A NOTAM was disseminated to all countries within the region notifying them of the conflict and that all civilian flights needed to monitor the Air Distress frequency and *BE PREPARED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES* if necessary. 4. A helicopter from one the United States warships started receiving small arms fire, while over international waters, from Iraqi vessels. Adding to the tension and the possibility of a bigger attack. 5. A total of *ELEVEN* attempts were made to contact and identify Flight 655. Seven on military frequencies, four on international distress frequencies. 6. Flight 665 departed from an Iranian airport that served as both a commercial and military airport where Iranian F-14s flew from, further adding to the confusion, especially since there were other active F-14s at the airport. It is easy to speculate that an attack run is under way. 7. Iran should have *NEVER* allowed a commercial aircraft to fly within the vicinity of an active conflict zone. We see commercial flights re-routed all the time over contested/conflict zones, no one is going to say "Hey, why didn't Iran divert Flight 655?"...maybe because they wanted to start an international incident. No....not Iran! It's DEFINITELY America's fault. 8. Flight 655 was reported as flying at 350kts, while the crew would have seen themselves at an airspeed of 300kts. This contributed to the confusion of Flight 655's flight crew as to whether or not the United States warships were attempting to contact them, or another Iranian military aircraft nearby. Hence the reason they never responded. 9. The Aegis system, at the time, was a highly complex, highly sophisticated, and largely automated system that had seen little combat prior to this incident. Not to say the absolves anyone of responsibility, but anomalies, familiarity, even protocols change over time on newly established military systems, leading us all to safely assume that a "learning curve"...yes, that term can be used even with complex, expensive, military systems, is bound to happen. A lot of the events leading to this misfortunate event can be described by coincidence, confusion, and bad timing. This was not a clear-cut case of America's supposed willful neglect or trigger-happy attitude we are accused of having. Errors on both sides resulted in the loss of 290 lives that day. Iran knew the area was an active conflict zone, they had every opportunity to re-route aircraft. They also could have...I don't know, not instigated in the first place. For every one person that claims the US "oversteps it's boundaries" or "is in places it shouldn't be" has also enjoyed the benefits of the same problems. Name a part of the world America hasn't helped protect, helped recover from a disaster, or warded off enemies of a lesser defended country. I'll wait. With that being said, America was also at fault for this incident. There are reports that the captain was dismissive of warnings, the crew making mistakes on configuring/monitoring certain aspects of the newly integrated Aegis system, and other issues like lack of due diligence. To that last part, however, I will say that I'm sure few of you have ever been in an actively contested zone with a non-responsive, potentially enemy aircraft just 12 miles away (which is not a lot of distance when you're flying 400mph) approaching you head-on. America was at fault, Iran was at fault. A complex series of misfortune events lead to the loss of 290 lives. If anyone thinks America shot down a civilian aircraft intentionally, or with little regard to the life lost, that's nothing more than self-hatred for your own country or for America.

[@johnbergeron9997]

Lol another great rerun

[@renasauceman]

do you mean the video or the us army killing innocent civilians? cause both are true.

[@jiwik731]

They just wanted to shoot something so much to flex in front of the camera crew so they wish it was an enemy aircraft so they created an enemy aircraft.

[@matts156]

Yeah, they were so hyped up to shoot something down, they waited beyond the 20-mile line until the plane was only 9 miles away to actually engage it? Don't give up your day job, analysis clearly isn't in your wheelhouse.

[@colestock9980]

Yeah, they really wanted to shoot down that plane. They definitely weren’t desperately trying to contact it to stop the engagement, they definitely didn’t wait until the literal last second to decide, and definitely weren’t waiting to call the attack off in a moment’s notice. Yup, they wanted that plane gone with no remorse.

[@michaellowe5980]

​@@matts156how about they shouldn't have been in those waters in the 1st place. Typical American arrogance. Good to see the US falling apart so badly now.

[@jiwik731]

​@@colestock9980 They did not try to contact it - they used only military frequenci civilian aircraft do not use (they did not bothered to second check it) , they did not try to stop it engage because there was no engagement. They ignored the fact the plane was rising, not going down to attack, they even ignored the civilian codes plane was sending and did not even bothered to check if they set it right. The fighter jet they were getting the signal from was sitting at airfield.

[@colestock9980]

@@jiwik731 they tried 3 times on civilian frequencies (121.5). Confirmation bias showed that the plane was following a classic diving attack pattern because of the paranoia of battle. They were confused as to why it squawked it’s airliner code as well as the F-14 code, they had no idea there was both an airliner and an F-14.

[@sartiwitt4892]

Always a weak communications. They could easy gotten info from the airport Freqa. That Plane was never decreasing altitude. Big question the boxes ever recovered?

[@angrytailsandjosedanieldia6238]

There is 1 plane that has survivors a Korean flight with 109 people

[@anas-ee6qx]

Who asked US to go anywhere?? Go home and mind your own business. No one was attacking you. That US helicopter made a mistake by approaching too much. No need to attack back with your super toy ship!!

[@funwithlego9269]

@@anas-ee6qx you didnt watch the full video clown

[@QuickflixWifhat]

28:56 The guy litterally asks : "Did we get that AIRPLANE" You would not reffer to a millitairy aircraft as airplane? What do you guys think?

[@Bob31415]

37:27 - Did that dude inhale helium before transmitting?

[@reckondragon2130]

Very unfortunate and tragic situation. Im not sure that it was practical though for Iran to operate military aircraft at a commercial airport. It is sad when lives have to be lost in order to learn painful lessons.

[@Lovepeacejustice]

Aircraft not responding to warnings ⚠️.

[@chayllopez3300]

Welcomed as hero ?????? Should be jailed for life

[@rcrinsea]

Was it really a mistake? I am American but as I get older and learn more about my country, I’m no longer sure.

[@Bob31415]

100% Iran's fault. First Iran attacks a U.S. Navy ship in *international* waters, then they allow a civilian Iranian airliner to fly into the middle of the battle.

[@facelesstravel]

but the question is wtf us do in persian gulf!

[@mohammadlotfipour849]

Reasonable??????really?????????

[@jwarmstrong]

The country is launching fighting boats & sending commercial aircraft - what went wrong ?

[@jerrycallo]

Can't imagine.

[@antjohnson9239]

Iran wanted this to happen. Really think Iran didn't know that ship was out there.

[@nanlyrics4039]

how couldn't they differentiate just by speed..... passenger airplane and fighter jet speed is not same.......this is non sense

[@gibbo_303]

incorrect, fighter jets can easily mimic a passenger airliner so they can get closer without being shot at

[@stephenmapeka7774]

By speed?

[@jesterr7133]

They did not explain this situation very well. This identification system was completely useless. Why would any military aircraft identify itself as a military aircraft if they could use the civilian designation? If the civilian designation doesn't automatically identify it as civilian, then why have the system at all? It obviously was not very effective.

[@Chris-gi9ch]

It's easy to judge when looking from the sidelines, but this is a bad mistake on our part that should've been acknowledged, with the victims families compensated. I understand the situation with the Iranian government, and coming under fire, but they we're innocent people and their families need an apology and compensated.

[@cncmoh]

BS. They already admitted to deliberately shooting down a passenger plane.

[@Greninja3366]

Was it really THAT hard to just walk out of the room, grab a pair of binoculars and god damn look at the sky?

[@ChicoLLachowski]

Theres literally actual footage in this video of people with binoculars. It was too far.

[@kessekesse9544]

Why is a civilian airplane going through the warzone?

[@vincentdavidson755]

In war one who shoots first WINs 🧝⚡⚡⚡

[@Echowhiskeyone]

I have said this before, there are bit that have not been released and still remain classified. That said, the plane was in the wrong place at the wrong time. RIP all on that flight.

[@necsoiub]

So it's the civilian plane's fault?

[@ifykykcookie]

Actually, it was not. It was listed on the flight plan they had. Lack of training from our military is what caused this devastation.

[@renasauceman]

trigger happy war machine is the wrong thing in this situation.

[@robert-h2x]

@@renasauceman not even trigger happy. it was already over 5 mins into the ships defence zone

[@matts156]

@@ifykykcookie It wasn't on the flight plan. The plane was delayed by more than 30 minutes because a passenger had immigration problems. The IDS operator was unable to match that plane to what was listed on the flight plan. That's not to say it's the airline's fault, it's just an unfortunate factor that contributed to a tragic outcome.