USA Hockey Will Beat Team Canada At The 4Nation Faceoff...

[@TheBluelineHockey]

Who do you think will win the 4Nation Faceoff in 2025? Who should start in net for Team Canada?

[@TimFrith24]

Stuart Skinner of the Oilers will be the starting goalie for Team Canada in next year’s NHL 4 Nations Face-Off.

[@nicklbckluvr]

Binnington

[@CanucksFan201]

@@TimFrith24nah Boeser, Hughes and Miller are all likely candidates for Americas final roster

[@CanucksFan201]

@@TimFrith24Binner would be a better choice

[@CanucksFan201]

@@TimFrith24Binnington and Hill is the best possible Goaltending Tandem

[@thehitstorychannel]

Its certainly possible, but McDavid, MacKinnon, and Crosby down the middle is too much for ANY goalie. If Canada gets average goaltending, they’ll win.

[@armenkara1154]

they also have point , marner, nylander reinhart it’s gonna be insane

[@keloonpa58.62]

@@armenkara1154nylander will be on team Sweden

[@Midaswhale531]

Crosby with an OT Game winner in the finals vs USA... you can book it now.

[@nitehawkus7385]

The only position the Americans have an advantage over Canada is in net. That doesn’t guarantee them anything

[@nucks4life11]

The Americans have better defence as well.

[@PWiz30]

The only way that's true is if Hockey Canada figures out how to clone Cale Makar.

[@Chewatdachewy]

Im old enough to say. Never doubt team Canada. Like ever. 2006 is the only blemish since using NHL players in international competition.

[@badassunicorn5351]

PREACH!!! That is the truth!

[@kingdavid7571]

1998

[@aaronpaugh7222]

Crosby, MacKinnon, McDavid, bedard, Marchand, makar, toews. Doesnt matter who your goalie is, good luck competing with that.

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

Hockey is a game played on ice, not on paper.

[@JM-gj7de]

There's no bigger USA hockey fanatic than me. But predictions like this are silly. USA could win every game or lose every game and get killed. All four teams will be stacked. In a one-off tournament, anyone can beat anyone. All it takes is a hot goalie or a bad bounce etc... Honestly, I think USA would struggle to beat Finland, let alone Canada. Why? Finland, despite not having the most impressive roster, always play as a TEAM and sacrifice for each other. Same with Canada. Wearing that maple leaf seems to give them an extra gear. The problem for American star players is that they know they're good. Imo, that's a negative. It's better to stay humble and keep your expectations low. Impossible for this group of guys. I've been watching hockey since the mid-1980s. The only time USA managed beat Canada's best in a game that actually mattered was in the 1996 World Cup. USA did so because they played as a team. Since then, USA has always...without exception...FAILED to live up to the hype. For whatever reason, they've always disappointed. I don't care how pretty their roster looks. Until they actually win another best-on-best tournament, I'll remain skeptical. Show me!

[@anthonyteichroeb917]

Colorado Dummied Hellabuck Oilers got Otter in 6 Demko is made of glass.

[@Xdot15]

The goaltending isnt as bad as people think it is, but whatever helps Americans sleep better at night 😂

[@keloonpa58.62]

Fr, Hill carried the knights at times during their cup run

[@stuffandthingyoutube]

In terms of overall development the US still isn’t close to Canada, imagine a tournament like this but with countries 2nd teams Canada would absolutely dominate and it wouldn’t be close. Other countries may be catching up with the top international level talent, but they are miles behind Canada in terms of depth. That’s also not mentioning no other country produces Generational talents like Canada, Crosby, Bedard, McDavid all in the span of a decade and a half compared to the rest of the world maybe two in Ovechkin and Matthews(?)

[@Kyle-kt9qr]

Making canada not the favorite is what canada wants... we feed off it

[@Lee-f9w5v]

An American opinion obviously! Look at history , Canada wins more often lol!

[@kimcokevin]

Adin Hill is a Stanley Cup winning goalie, and when he was healthy last season he was lights out.

[@demjay]

I heard this many times before, Canada just seems cross the finish line everytime

[@stephane8621]

Couple of things to mention ; Brad Marchand is extremely well rounded forward (asides from playing well with Crosby) . He also plays left wing, a position Canada lacks depth on (so the decline would have to be drastic) . As a locker room hype man , I think having Brad as a leader is a good decision. Yes the US should be the favourites . But mostly due to overall depth (offence , goaltending but especially defence) . Goaltending; Stanley cup winner Binnington who also handle prime Colorado in the playoffs two years ago is good for the job . I wouldn’t say there’s a massive difference . The guy just hasn’t had a chance to play big games due to the Blues falling off . A .915% for last season on a very weak team is pretty exceptional goaltending imo. Especially when your team isn’t playing for anything. As mentioned, the Stanley cup winners (Colorado) were relieved to see he got injured in their series. Also the depth in this department doesn’t matter nearly as much , this is not an 82 game season with a rigorous playoff schedule . So it looks like a big lead for the states on depth , but they can only choose one net-minder. As for the 1-0 win in 2014 . It was Babcocks strategy to play defence . If you watch the game , the Us was never a threat . That previous Us team should therefore not be mentioned. Funny you didn’t bring up their more recent best on best performance in 2016 😂. Probably had a lot to do with them upgrading / revamping their program .

[@indoraptorspyce8310]

Mcdavid, mckinnon, makar, bedard, crosby, and point?!?! Who the hell will stop that? Even if we get average goaltending from adin hill and skinner in net, we still will probably be the favorites for the tournament. The USA is a definite challenge though.

[@busherjackson5016]

Usa hockey = no heart

[@eqluke9890]

USA hockey is the most overrated program in the world, idk what this guy is talking about

[@willsk7068]

USA hockey cant do shit.

[@alexpayne1364]

Ngl Sam Montembeault is so underrated. I know he's not as known as the rest but on a weak Montreal team he's a solid choice

[@former2u]

while it is possible that the US can beat Canada best on best... to say that they would be the favourites is purely a lack of hockey knowledge. When was the last time an American goalie won the cup? Demko, Oettenger, Helebuyck all dissappear in important games....

[@bartsimpson6708]

im finnish and no they probably wont....

[@bartsimpson6708]

also Marchand should definely be on the roster no matter what. he makes it uncomtforble for the other team

[@gymguy25]

Many of Canada’s best goalies used to come out of Quebec (Brodeur, Luongo, Theodore, Giguère, Lalime, Fleury), as most Quebec kids growing up in the 80s-90s were huge fans of Patrick Roy. Fleury’s career is nearing its end and I can’t think of another good goalie from Quebec right now as for the other Canadian goalies, no question, they’re not all that great for the most part! 🙁

[@the.wayne.b]

Does it even matter without Russia there to be fair tho?

[@HopefulNihilist]

Russia's current talent pool doesn't even compare against Finland or Sweden... Let alone to US and Canada.

[@the.wayne.b]

@@HopefulNihilist lol ok. I shouldn't even respond to this. But if you used google you'd understand

[@mike8099m]

Marchand should be exactly where he is.

[@Canuck.Collector]

Marchand shouldn't even be in the league guy is trash

[@mike8099m]

@@Canuck.Collector in what sense

[@nathanadrian7797]

It will be tough to replace Carey Price! While Carey was playing for team Canada, we never lost a game!

[@mikenighbor4524]

Even with a weaker roster and the canadians having price, still one goal game. Knight stole the covid world juniors from Levi and possibly the most stacked junior team ever. It's hard to say that now over the 04 team, especially with the nhl success afterward. At the time of the tournament, the covid year looked better against a much deeper pool of talent in the weaker nations

[@Ryan-ve7le]

If we gotta rely on Skinner, im shaking…..

[@the5thlineplaymaker131]

Binnington

[@matthewly7919]

Idk if you waych the iihf but binnington wasnt looking good tbh adin hill is starting and thomsen or skinner is backing

[@the5thlineplaymaker131]

@@matthewly7919 skinner 😂

[@douglepong]

What the hell happened to our goal tending?.. Dear lord how did it get this bad?

[@BEYONDYOURIQ]

Montembeult will be Canadas goalie and be lights out.

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Aiden Hill will be starting

[@leonrenaud9935]

bullshit they will lose sorry buddy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dipeachio6832]

Left out USA's best goalie Swayman

[@waynebusilla]

Out of the four teams it’s anyone’s game……do not discount the Swedes or Finland……it’s going to be good hockey to watch…….however I will be cheering for the Great White North!

[@stevendeschamps5181]

We will see about that. I don't think so

[@BillSteffler-zk2fc]

Switched to soccer.... hockeys for the rich..

[@scottstewart4387]

Don't bet your house on that ...

[@KingSteady]

Matthews can't score in games that count.

[@sanaon7453]

Get ready to sing the star spangled banner

[@andrenoneofyourbusiness3881]

Keep dreaming lol

[@eqluke9890]

Yeah I don’t even need to watch video to tell you there is 0 chance the states wins, I stg American hockey fans are delusional

[@TheBluelineHockey]

I’m not American

[@eqluke9890]

@@TheBluelineHockey never said you were

[@douglepong]

Isn't Adin Hill Canadian? I'd pick him over Skinner!

[@TheBluelineHockey]

He is, I mentioned him in the vid

[@leonrenaud9935]

bullshit

[@Wally112pac]

Lol

[@lindsman682]

While I do agree Marchand was not the best selection, I don't think USA is "miles" ahead in goaltending. Skinner clearly outgoaled Oetinger, and Hellyebuck had a sub .80 save percentage in the playoffs. Demko was behind those two goalies. I don't see it as a clear advantage anymore.

[@moneydynamicmatanya9541]

Hell no

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Sober up , americans have no heart. We have Aiden Hill who won the cup last year with vegas ...move along

[@robsnider7527]

Have another drink

[@rona6063]

Evan Bouchard has played himself on team.

[@ianmorrison2846]

Why is JT Miller not mentioned?

[@TheBluelineHockey]

He wasn't one of their first 6 roster picks. He'll be there for sure, along with Boeser if he is healthy and Demko.

[@BigSleepyJoeCooking]

Miller, Boeser, Hughes, Garland, Joshua, Demko, Guentzel. USA is gonna get carried by Canucks!

[@LEETCH_2]

USA!!!

[@the5thlineplaymaker131]

Throw Marchy on a line with McDavid or Crosby and I’d bet he outperforms Hyman.. Marchy has that IQ and experience to make the little plays teams need to win. Not taking away from Hyman but marchy slept on

[@MrBallzy]

Hyman much better choice since he has proven that he plays well with McDavid. Will only get better next year. Either way, Canada is strong up front.

[@dipeachio6832]

Marchy definitely has to be on the team but will be better suited with Crosby. McDavid needs Hyman 100%.

[@the5thlineplaymaker131]

@@dipeachio6832 McDavid doesn’t need Hyman 💀

[@epants8507]

The reason why hockey development in the US has gotten better is because of Canada. Most Canadian players (dads) play and have kids in the US. Those kids develop and play for the US. As far as Canadas goaltending I’m not worried… Any one of them can step up like Hill or Skinner. Canada has 33 Canadian born goalies in the NHL the US has 20.

[@JM-gj7de]

"The reason why hockey development in the US has gotten better is because of Canada."...I see this type of salty comment from Canadians all the time. It's designed to make yourselves feel better inside whilst diminishing American hockey. Canadians make such statements because their pride doesn't permit them to acknowledge the accomplishments of the U.S. program. Simply put, USA hockey is a threat to Canada. Canadians feel the need to belittle by saying the U.S. owes it all to Canada. Canada is A reason...not THE reason that USA hockey has gotten better. Take an inventory of USA's best players and research how many have zero connection to Canada. The overwhelming majority of top U.S. players have no such Canadian Dads of which you speak. Cherry picking a player here or that is not reflective of the whole. I can just as easily point to the ever increasing number of top Canadian players that choose to play College (NCAA) hockey and say they owe their development to the U.S. "Canada has 33 Canadian born goalies in the NHL the US has 20." Quality...not quantity of goalies is more important. I'm sure you can understand this. Want to talk quantity? I have some stats that should scare the crap out of you. In the 1983-84 NHL season, Canadians represented 77.4% and the U.S. only 10.6% of total players in the league. Today, 40 years later, Canada has dropped to 42% while the U.S. climbed to 28% of the league. (QuantHockey dot com). See for yourself. The numbers don't lie. Canada and the U.S. are on opposite trajectories. It will take a few decades, but the U.S. will eventually have a quantity AND quality advantage over Canada. Truth hurts sometimes.

[@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178]

@@JM-gj7de All but 8 captains since 1993 that have won cups are Canadian. Only 2 Americans, 2 Swedes, A Russian, A Czech, and A Finn have Captained their team to a cup since 1993. Why would Canadians be salty? USA has 340 million people. About time you all started becoming a "threat" to Canadian hockey... Just funny seeing that only 2 American captains have led teams to cups in 30 years... Same amount as Sweden and Sweden only has 10 million people.

[@JM-gj7de]

@@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178 I bare you no malice at all. But, it's clear to me that you're salty. Your mention of captains was just another predictable way to belittle American hockey. I couldn't care less about how many Cup captains are Canadian or not. If the quantity of Canadian and American Cup captains were to become level in the future, you'd simply move the goal posts and point to another irrelevant factoid. This is what Canadians do when they're afraid of losing hockey supremacy. Most amusing of all is how you mentioned population size...as if it's THE factor that determines sporting success. By your logic, India and China should be the best at hockey. Interest in the sport is far more important than population size. Hockey interest in the U.S. is increasing steadily, as evidenced by the quantity of registered ice hockey players. The real reason why you pointed out population size is because Canadians will eventually use it as an excuse if/when the U.S. surpasses Canada in hockey. Is this guaranteed to happen? No, of course not. Honestly, I think it will take another 30 years for the U.S. to unequivocally surpasses Canada in hockey. Canada still has plenty of time on top, so you can relax.

[@blackberrythorns]

@@JM-gj7de hockey is a canadian game. it's hilarious how you think that canada is belittling the stars and stripes empire when the opposite is a daily occurrence for canadians. maybe it's your inability to give anyone else the respect they deserve for anything at all that's the problem. your empire is completely imploding so i wouldn't make any plans that project forward decades for anything.

[@blackberrythorns]

@@JM-gj7de you should be thanking canada for teaching you lacrosse, hockey, canadian gridiron rugby football, baseball and basketball but that will never happen as supremacists are what they are. the vast majority of the world has had enough now and your empire is finished, you'll have to get used to a new status. the dementia patient you call a president says it all really. disgraceful. shameful.

[@davesmith7993]

With a talent pool many times the size of Canada's, it was only a matter of time after NHL expansion exploded into the US that they would have more top tier players than Canada. It's simple math.

[@former2u]

thats not even close to be being true ... Canada has far more top end players. It has nothing to do with logistics.

[@spud2727]

What are you talking about, Canada produces way more top end talent than any country, educate yourself, your making yourself look like an arrogant no nothing murican😅

[@zachw4829]

LFG USA

[@emilretee6932]

Silver and bronze. 👍

[@philc824]

this is American you tube channel.......not really knowledgeable with hockey.

[@TheBluelineHockey]

I’m Canadian

[@colinbrown9044]

Of Course tge USA does.

[@williammccleary5878]

No they won’t

[@TimFrith24]

Team USA will beat Team Canada in the NHL 4 Nations Face-Off final, the 2025 IIHF World Championship gold medal game, and the gold medal game at the 2026 Winter Olympics.

[@iceking1580]

LOL you’re delusional

[@MrBallzy]

Saying it won't make it happen, but hey, here is hoping for you. All I can say is that USA goaltending better be at its best if there is any chance at beating Team Canada.

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Put your meth pipe down

[@G_Ellis606]

USA team will beat Canada quite easily. No Elias Pettersson on Sweden?

[@shib420]

You must be a new fan of the sport if you are saying that beating team Canada in hockey will be "quite easy"

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

Sober up , usa has no balls no brains no heart

[@SportsMuppets]

Hahaha