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@eddieoiler2958 Сағат бұрын

Vancouver Canucks - ZERO Stanley Cups in 55 years!

@booradley6832 2 сағат бұрын

I feel like the #11 controversy was a big miss by all three parties, the family being the least guilty by a very large margin of course to the point that "guilt" isnt even the correct way to describe them at all. More like "missed their chance." If anyone had just stepped back and said "okay lets make things right" it could have went down as a dumb event with a positive end. It would have been better if any of the three had said "instead of retiring a number which people will have to go out of their way to find out who it even was, let's start an annual charity event in his name and donate the proceeds to research for brain cancer." Would have lowered the significance of taking his number since now instead of an implied sacrificial gesture, it was a tangible one to do something about what killed him, done something to try and help a cause that mattered a lot to them and salvaged a PR disaster. Since its a he said she said we'll never know who was telling the truth. I do not mean to come out as against the family with this statement, I just think they could have taken advantage of the situation to do some good with it. And maybe they did what do I know? I think if they told the media the idea pressure would have forced the Canuck's hand and Messier would have been on the hook for a big donation or he would have been hated the league over. That's the only criticism of them I have, and its barely a criticism more of a "what if." If you disagree with me I welcome it, I could be entirely wrong. Just try to refute the ideas and not attack me personally.

@Nohandle2500 2 сағат бұрын

Every dog has its day. When you calculate games that were absolute best of best - Canada has dominated USSR/Russia/The artist formerly known as USSR, etc.

@richardwebb8203 3 сағат бұрын

Very informative. I remembered the stink over the Soviets trying to take the Cup home, but was unaware of the part about the replica being given to them. Thank you.

@robbob401 4 сағат бұрын

Canucks lay a dirty hit and spark a fire under the Bruins and lose handedly but I guess the Canucks are the victim with boogiemen everywhere lmao sad team sad fanbase

@chrisphillips348 7 сағат бұрын

The goalies on Canada were not the Best they had, not even close

@chrisphillips348 7 сағат бұрын

This was in late summer and the Canadiens didn’t get into shape like the Soviet players. Being an athlete I would have trained all summer, but after NHL season, they needed a break!

@do-notuse3821 7 сағат бұрын

BECAUSE PUSSIES AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE SHOOT OUT. !!!!

@chrisphillips348 7 сағат бұрын

Great topic! Vaguely remember, but Wayne’s book reminded me of it. In 1980 I was 12 and lived in NY and witnessed the Challenge Cup wipeout And was 30 minutes away from Lake Placid during the game and we found out the US won (it was Not aired live) and outside the area no one knew who won! It was still exciting as we thought it was a fake rumor. No way in hell that would/could happen today!

@angelaspanger 9 сағат бұрын

I remember when Larionov was in his 40's and getting 4 or 5 assists in a game

@russamieltrusty 12 сағат бұрын

Great video but I hate it… so much

@jibberjabberr 14 сағат бұрын

What happened to this country????? Trudeau happened.

@kj6446 14 сағат бұрын

what some of the younger viewers might not realize is that back then seeing ads on the boards only occurred in international tournaments like this, and thus seemed unusual to someone used to watching nhl hockey.

@mpress469 14 сағат бұрын

I remember that game. Canadian hockey would never quite be the same after that... for the better. While Canada produced the greatest hockey superstars in the world, the Larionov five was the greatest line I've ever witnessed in all of hockey. Individualism vs. collectivism playing a "team" game?... it's a no-brainer, really!! Alan Eagleson-of-a-bi***!!!

@bigjacket7934 14 сағат бұрын

What does the story of the trophy have to do with the "deep dive" into the game?? Plus.. no criticism of Liut? He was awful...

@AlbertLivingstone 14 сағат бұрын

The Soviets played for possession and control like a cohesive 5-man squad. The Red Wings Russian Five also played like that.

@berryscott3590 10 сағат бұрын

I'll give them that. The Soviet Style was oft times esthetically pleasing... But again, not many if any of you young whipper snappers realize that that 'Soviet style' was really invented by Lloyd Percival, a Canuck, and author of, 'The Hockey Handbook'

@classic.cameras 14 сағат бұрын

Biggest problem for the Canadians. They mostly ever played against each other. Where as the CCCP were an actual team.

@UCMUjoTgQE 10 сағат бұрын

USSR players spent a lot of time together. If you look at the lineup in this game, the first five were entirely CSKA, the second three were attacking from Spartak, all three pairs of defenders were also from the same clubs. They played during the season (although the Soviet season was short, 40-44 matches), there were a lot of national team games (world championship, numerous tournaments, long training camps). They were just very well-acted. But this did not stop the Miracle on Ice from happening in 1980.

@frizlaw 15 сағат бұрын

One thing that wasn't mentioned in the video is the reason behind making the 1981 Canada Cup final a one game winner take all instead of best two out of three, which all the other Canada Cups had as the format for the final. There was an international series called the 1979 Challenge Cup held at Madison Square Garden in February between the NHL all-stars (who were made up almost entirely of Canadian players plus three Swedish players) and the Soviet national team. The NHL all-stars/Team Canada won the first game 4-2. The NHL all-stars/Team Canada were leading 4-2 about halfway through game 2 when the Soviet team flipped a switch scoring three goals to win 5-4. In game 3, the Soviet team completely embarrassed the NHL all-stars/Team Canada 6-0. Because of this result, it was felt that Canada would be unable to beat the Soviets twice in a best of three playoff, so they decided on the one game final in 1981. After the debacle of the 8-1 loss, it was back to the original best of three format. I even remember there being a political cartoon showing Alan Eagleson yelling at the Soviet airplane as it was leaving Canada saying, "Hey, it was best two out of three!"

@billmitchell6575 15 сағат бұрын

Tretiak man. Every time I can catch any old footage, the guy is always a problem for whoever is playing the USSR. Dude likely the best in the world at the time.

@donmorfeo 15 сағат бұрын

Canada's goaltending was poor. Also, the tournament organizers made a big mistake in making it a one game final instead of a series. Remember Canada lost the first game in 87.

@Ron-zd1jo 15 сағат бұрын

Don't miss understand why. The best player on the planet at that time was not a forward or defenseman but a goalie. The Dominator was the best player. Yes Jagr was the best forward. Hasek was hands down the best for 2 yrs 97/98 he was outstanding winning 2 nhl mvp's and a gold medal. Canada was good but they expected to win and didn't earn it. Hasek took them to the olympic promise land. I will always tip my hat to him Gretz who I think is the greatest didn't have the moves anymore and only had a couple signature shoot out moves and most goalies weren't fooled by him. The bigger question is where were Messier and Mario ?? if they were there it probably would of been gold for Canada

@WranglerJess97 16 сағат бұрын

Isn't there a neat old term that was used to describe someone that gave something to someone else, only to ask for it back later? 🤣

@WranglerJess97 16 сағат бұрын

Great video!

@donaldleider7382 16 сағат бұрын

I was at the challenge cup series game in 1979 at Madison Square Garden where the Soviet Red Army team shut out the NHL All-Stars 6-0.

@donaldleider7382 16 сағат бұрын

I was at the challenge cup series game in 1979 at Madison Square Garden where the Soviet Red Army team shut out the NHL All-Stars 6-0.

@berryscott3590 14 сағат бұрын

That was the CCCP Nats, albeit with Red Army the biggest contributor... To be fair, our boys did win the first game of that Challenge Cup, 4-3... So technically 1-1 in wins and losses... Was there a third game in that series? I don't recall...

@jeffmccoy1700 14 сағат бұрын

@@berryscott3590the Challenge Cup was a 3 game series the second week of February that year, games on Thursday night, Saturday afternoon and Sunday evening. The teams split the first two games 4-2 NHL in game one then 5-4 Soviets in game two. For game three both coaches switched goaltenders the Soviets replacing the great Tretiak with the unknown Vladamir Myshkin and Scotty Bowman replacing his Montreal net minder Ken Dryden with Gerry Cheevers. The Soviets stunned the North American hockey world with a 6-0 win.

@jeffmccoy1700 13 сағат бұрын

@@berryscott3590 I heard later that at the conclusion of the final game the Soviet captain Boris Maikailov skated over to Bobby Clarke the NHL captain like he intended to shake hands but instead the Soviet captain put his face in front of Clarke's and went "ha, ha ,ha!!" At the end of the broadcast Mikailov was asked through an interpreter what this victory meant for Soviet hockey and in response Mikailov grinned and said "Soviet hockey number one, NHL number two".

@berryscott3590 3 сағат бұрын

@@jeffmccoy1700 'East is East & West is West', notes Kipling ...'The West is the BEST', cries Morrison... 'An Iron Curtain has descended over Eastern Europe', laments Churchill... We are all stuck on one side, or t' other, of the Great, 'US vs THEM' Divide... Don't give us any Detente, Let's Shake Hands, Crap... This is still, take no prisoners, kick'em when they're down, Cold War on Ice-Time ... This is Mikailov, CCCP Kapo, confronting Team Canada Hit-man, and Broad Street Bullies' Captain-Clarke... There's no mending of fences, no forgetting of the love tap that broke Kharlavov's ankle... No DEEP SYMBOLISM ICI...But Plenty of HOCKEY KARMA xxx Kharlamov (RIP) is not long for this world... CCCP's Reign of Terror (He said, waxing Metaphorically) is Coming to an End... 'I'm sick of hearing what a great team the Soviets have... Screw em... Their time is over...done... This is Our Time'... The Coming of the Sedins and the Premeditated Collapse of the Twins in NYC, Notwithstaning... xxx I'd say more, but my answer to your post has been deleted 3 times by Cerebus, the 3 headed dog from hell, at the behest of KZbin Thought Police... Care to try for the trifecta Big Brother? Or are the 4 Horseman of the Apocalypse sufficient? Drop the Damn Puck Already... OH CANADA... BAByyyyyyyyj

@almVancouver 17 сағат бұрын

Good assessment. Lemeux, Kariya, Neidemeyer and Sakic not on the team. Wowzers

@moreblack 17 сағат бұрын

Don Cherry probably had an aneurysm coming to terms with this result.

@glenngraham553 18 сағат бұрын

Biggest meathead coaching call in the history of the game.

@RichardMullin-u8w 18 сағат бұрын

The way the soviets played this game was way ahead of its time. Never a bad thing to be humbled - you learn something.

@1912Boat9 18 сағат бұрын

Make No Mistake🚨

@jean-louislalonde6070 19 сағат бұрын

I was there. The third period killed the crowd which, as mentioned, started leaving before the game was over. Then we heard a door being closed with a loud noise to which someone said it must be Alan Eagleson leaving the Forum!

@GuyCybershy 19 сағат бұрын

Tretriak stoned the Canadians cold in the first period. After that it was no contest. When Tretriak was on his game they were almost unbeatable.

@calvinvreman 19 сағат бұрын

Loving these short documentary style videos, I especially like that you cover semi-forgotten hockey history. Makes for fun conversations with my Dad. Keep up the good work.

@PATS06 19 сағат бұрын

All great teams lay an egg …

@berryscott3590 18 сағат бұрын

Great Teams do indeed LOSE, on rare occasions.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the vaunted Soviet Nats/CCCP lose once to the Polish National Team (at that Eurocentric 'World Championships' no less)? And didn't CCCP's PROS lose to a bunch of Yankee Amateurs, fresh out of College, at some (wink, wink) 'Meaningless' tourney in Lake Placid NY circa 1980? I didn't know this previously, but someone mentioned that CCCP won the 1981 Canada Cup only 2 weeks after Soviet great Valery Kharlamov's untimely death... Maybe they (The Soviets) went into that winner take all game vs Canada with HEAVY HEARTS and played OUT OF THEIR MINDS?... Alas, Canada's A-Team, with the whole hockey world watching, didn't bring their A-game and packed it in, in the 3rd period which was VERY UN-CANADA-LIKE, particularly in SUCH A BIG GAME, ON HOME ICE!?! Excuses are for losers... Still someone else mentioned it was Mike Liut vs Vadislav Tretiak...My money's on Liut in a Piestany Punch-Up Scenario... But in a winner take all elimination game?... Not so much!!!

@PATS06 17 сағат бұрын

Yup , Poland and US amateurs, shocking. They would usually beat these teams by 5+

@SSS-v8v7n 19 сағат бұрын

FINAL SCORE : CCCP HYBRIDS 8 - CANADA HYBRIDS 1

@nevenv8453 20 сағат бұрын

love the Terry Fox statement thats why i subscribed

@thomasbarnes6730 20 сағат бұрын

Trudeau happened to this country. and it been downhill since

@jp6614 20 сағат бұрын

Probably EGO!!!!!!!

@mikearchibald744 20 сағат бұрын

The gulag jokes were wearing a bit thin, but this was very interesting and frankly more interesting than watching most hockey games now.

@GUISNIP 21 сағат бұрын

I remember this tournament well... Canadian hockey hadn't yet adjusted to the European system yet, despite the close call in '72. Liut was more proof that the big goalie struggled against the Russians (shades of Dryden in '72). And God love him, Guy was already past his prime at that point.

@Polytrout 10 сағат бұрын

I have no doubt that the Soviet Team in the 1981 Canada Cup was the superior team. It was the best team in the world at the time. HOWEVER, a culmination of some events contributed to this disaster. 1. Bob Bourne didn't play due to contract disputes with the New York Islanders. 2. Bill Barber was injured 3. Mike Liut had a horrible game 4. Team Canada got robbed by Vladislav Tretiak. 5. Canada did not ice the best team that they could It should be noted that the following all-star game featured very few members from the "Dream Team" that suffered the 8-1 humiliation. This loss wasn't about Canadian hockey not adjusting to the European system. Although the Soviets were better, this game was not indicative of that fact - Canada could have won that game, but the goaltending was lopsided. Even if Canada had assembled the best team that they could, it would not be as good as this Soviet juggernaut. But a stronger Canadian team with Don Edwards in net might have won that night, but it wouldn't mean that Canada was better at that time.

@vestaxwax 21 сағат бұрын

Sadly, the Canadian system never learned from these losses. The Soviet style of puck possession is a superior brand of hockey, but Canada opted to shove the dump-and-chase, park fwds in front of the net, skill-less, brute style of hockey. It was Don Cherry hockey, made simple for players with little-to-no skill. The skilled players are then saddled with trying to go end-to-end to try to make something happen. It's an easy system to shut down. This style persists to this day, making hockey a mostly dull game to watch. I'd kill to see positional puck movement in a set break-out, and chances made breaking across the opposing blue line, instead of the predictability of another dump, chase, throw the body, hope for something sloppy hockey. US College hockey is a better version of the game, so maybe the Americans will be the change the game needs moving fwd. Thanks for the video. Subbed.

@berryscott3590 20 сағат бұрын

The so-called 'Russian Style' was the invention of Canadian Lloyd Percival author of 'The Hockey Handbook' a book Anatoly Tarasov dubbed the father of Russian hockey called, HIS BIBLE... Tarasov had Percival's book translated into Russian and 500 copies printed up, just for starters...The REST IS HOCKEY HISTORY... a little known, though not totally forgotten history... XXX Incidentally, my mother's cousin, one Harold Schooley, was invited behind the Iron Curtain to serve as a guest coach for the Soviet Nats circa the early fifties. Schooley, another Lloyd Percival disciple, was summarily shown the door, by the Soviets, after they won their first World Championship in 1954 without so much as a 'Thank-you'... All this was documented by Glenn Nott, in a Special to the Hamilton Spectator, a full page article entitled 'The Wizard of Europe', a copy of which can still be found in the Special Collection's department of Hamilton's Central Library under the name Harold Schooley; there's only one such article gathering dust in a small drawer in said library.... Schooley was in the 1953 Guiness book for the most goals ever scored in a pro hockey game EIGHT, suiting up for the Fife Flyers (EDIT: Or was it the Paisley Pirates, one or t'other was the competing team) of the British Elite League, or whatever it was called back then... People forget that UK hockey was high quality in the WW2 and Post War era, with so many transplanted Canadian Servicemen. Indeed UK actually won Olympic Gold in Hockey in 1936... Sure I'm biased, but Harold Schooley's overseas hockey exploits make for an interesting read, plus they deserve to be properly documented BEFORE they are lost forever to posterity PEACE OUT

@vestaxwax 19 сағат бұрын

@@berryscott3590 Great info! I was aware the style originated in Canada, but was not aware of Percival. It's a shame muckers with low hockey IQs infiltrated the system and shaped the way the game grew to be played here. I try to imagine how dominant Canada would actually be IF they played the old-time hockey of 'skate, pass, shoot, score!'

@jean-louislalonde6070 19 сағат бұрын

As a Canadian I always felt Canada should have lost the 1972 series against the Soviets. We prefer pushing for individual talent whereas the Soviets/Russians never forget that hockey is a team sport.

@vestaxwax 18 сағат бұрын

@@jean-louislalonde6070 Bobby Clarke also took out their best player with a disgusting cheap shot.

@berryscott3590 18 сағат бұрын

With all due respect Kemosabey, you're NOT quite right... Not only what some construe as the classic NHL/Canuck Hockey Style... But also what others consider the classic CCCP style, which seems to insist on maintaining puck possession, come hell or high water, even when crossing the opponents blue line, can and has been countered quite effectively, even by comparative minnows... Case in point... Lowly Belarus did it to the Swedish Torpedo System which, like CCCP, shunned the dump and chase game back in the day, simply by standing incoming forwards up at the blue line ... And, of course, the Clarke and Shero led Broad Street Bullies made mincemeat out of Red Army, not only by roughing them up, BUT by presenting the Canadian version of the Berlin Wall, in the neutral zone, then going on fast-paced counterattacks ... THE BEST SYSTEM, Barr None, is a Hybrid classic Canadian and European/CCCP Style which Herb Brook's character, based closely on real life, replete with real hockey players in lieu of professional actors, made clear in the Movie Miracle ... Had the Swedes, for example, added a little dump and chase to their repetoire, stead of being so inflexible, NO WAY they lose to Belarus at Salt Lake City... NEWSFLASH: Soviet/Russian Hockey, moreso than any other hockey nation, has been slow to adapt... With all Russia's offensive talent, that's THE BIGGEST Reason they haven't won a true, best on best competition, since 1981... PEACE OUT