USA vs Canada For Masters Studies

Should I go to USA or Canada for my masters? which country is better in terms of job opportunities and PR? I will discuss pros and cons in this video.
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[@codebasics]

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[@codebasics]

CORRECTION: If your h1b doesn't get picked up in all 3 tries after masters, you can do another master and while you are studying, you get something called CPT (OPT is something you do after your studies, CPT is something you can do in parallel with your studies) and during CPT you can apply for h1b. Hence you got total 5 chaces (5 during CPT, 2 during OPT). Other option is if you go for studies that is one level up. i.e. PHD, then you get 3 tries for H1B and 3 years of OPT. Thanks Dhoomketu and Mohin for pointing this out.

[@d.ganguly7531]

Your observation is absolutely correct. As Canadian PR. I would say after obtaining Masters from Canadian University finding job initially is bit difficult. Salary too is a bit lower in comparison to USA. But it is almost certain that you will given PR CARD within 3 years . Another great facility in Canada is free medical & all clinical tests . Even hospitalisation & operations are free. For Seniors all medicines are free of cost which is impossible & unthinkable in USA. Absolutely pollution free great cities & round the year beautiful weather. Albeit winter months are a bit painful if out on street. But seldom anybody found on road like India. Cars & car seats are all heated so problem whatsoever.

[@smwk2017]

Compared to US, Canada is kinder to immigrants. Republicans believed in small government and that every man should be making it on his own with minimum government assistance. My opinion is that new immigrant has a better chance of making it in Canada than in USA. Therefore, tax is higher in Canada.

[@AmandeepSingh-cv5qz]

whats the salary difference bw us and canada

[@smwk2017]

@@AmandeepSingh-cv5qz Salaries for professionals are higher in USA if you consider exchange rate (1.29 today). US goods are cheaper. US taxes are lower. US health care is very expensive; it is only affordable if you are healthy and don't see doctors as much.

[@anilverma332]

US for ambitious purposes and who want migrate to US. Depending on individual needs this post is well explained. Fo US is arat race

[@kannu7580]

​@@smwk2017 are you pursuing degree from Canada ?

[@avinasha3603]

Thank you for sorting this out🥰

[@LearningAndGrowingInLife]

Would love to see a similar comparison of between MBA vs MS CS.

[@smwk2017]

Between H1B and Green Card, there is Labor Certificate. With Labor Cert, you have to prove to US government that you are not stealing American jobs and that your position is indeed needed. Your employer has to pay you a fair wage for the position. You have to advertise your position (along with salary) in newspaper and other publications. Then there is an interview process if anyone applies. Hiring a competent immigration lawyer helps.

[@MohitG15]

You just nailed it, Sir can you please share how to develop such clear communication skills, I means my Written english is good, but speaking skills sucks, jt is like taking multiple breaks to communicate the message. I was interviewed by a company in neatherlands, knowledge part was fine, but I got rejected due to lack of clarity in english speaking skills.

[@slyadav3]

Thank you. Very well explained

[@anilverma332]

Very nicely explained 👍

[@mohinhasinrabbi6425]

If an individual has already used the 12/36 months of Masters level OPT they were granted for their first Masters, they are not eligible for OPT after second Masters. Even if your Master's degree is an entirely different field, you will not be eligible for another 12/36 month period of OPT. With that said, anyone planning to manage the next OPT would need to go for PhD preferably in a STEM field (because stem: 36 months, non-stem: 12 months) and step in for the OPT cycle again, while the designated company you work will apply for H1B visa, till the algorithm picks your name, from the lottery. Cheers🥂

[@rh334]

After Ph.D. It will be an EB2 visa.

[@mohinhasinrabbi6425]

@@rh334 Thanks brother.

[@codebasics]

Mohin, Thanks for pointing that out. I just added a pinned comment above with correction.There is also an option of going for CPT and applying h1b while on CPT. I have mentioned it in the pinned comment.

[@sidindian1982]

Canada/ EU - NATION/NZ/AUS are best for MS- DATA SCIENCE ❤️❤️🙏🙏

[@Luxcium]

I must confess that I have set the English Indian 🇮🇳Voice to read the text of my Books when they are related to computers science and I think it is so weird that I prefer that voice… but the other day I had to change the settings because it was not the voice that ChatGPT should have… anyway my phone is in French 🇨🇦 but it’s first English language is English from India 🇮🇳 which doesn’t affect my English writing because the Keyboard is a different setting… This man talks like he could be the CEO of the company drooling 🤤 about an arranged marriage between ChatGPT and Bing 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Keep up your amazing work and your communication skills are great as they repair the damage done by people who have the skills and the passion but also don’t have the communication level that you have ❤

[@sameerulhaq4066]

Sir any univeristy which u feel like is good for masters in data science/analytics/ AI in Canada or you know anyone who can guide.

[@need4java]

Just to chime in here. I’m currently working on a masters in Data Science at Texas Tech. The schools are all online and we have a number of Canadian students in the course.

[@arivazagi]

Hi, how was the course and how much it cost to study there. It will helpful who planning Data Science in aboard

[@pranjal86able]

You are right. Canada has awesome jobs and the people are way nicer and kind especially outside the big cities. I love Canada and would never leave.

[@HarshvardhanKanthode]

What's your take on the massive immigration wave taking place right now? How do native Canadians feel about immigrants in general?

[@smwk2017]

@@HarshvardhanKanthode Some locals don't like it. They blame rich immigrants driving up home prices in Vancouver ($1.5 million CAN avg.) and Toronto ($1.3 million CAN avg.) There is always someone not making it and need to find someone else to blame.

[@kenyup7936]

Ty for the video, I’m not looking for jobs in the US because I’m not a competitive person , my question is ppl say it’s hard to to find a job in Canada,even you looking for junior developers jobs even if you have master degree in Canada , is it true?

[@awesomeGuss]

Thanks for this

[@raghavendarraghu4278]

I got correct information after struggling almost a month 😌😌

[@rampoudel5553]

Actually you get 1 time opt for specific level if u do double master u can't get but if you'd do phd again u will get opt. Level should upgraded

[@ananya__f]

Please include Australia data science masters program details also

[@BlunderBoyNehruJ]

Yeah , are you also thinking of going there for masters?

[@varshavaran2558]

Sir please do a roadmap in Datascience who want start a career in tech after careergap

[@Luxcium]

I am from Canada and if I have to go back to the country I would be able to stay in one of those two Countries…

[@manavdarji7224]

Bro , after completing btech in computer engineering what should a course I prefer for my master's or something else.🙏

[@smwk2017]

Master.

[@ajayanjani7575]

Sir My daughter is Canadian citizen studying B tech cyber security from NMIMS MUMBAI. Where should she go for her masters..? Pl guide

[@kssahaya]

To do MS at US ... Data Science and Computer Science comparison plse

[@yohoney98]

Recently my friends went to Canada only on IELTS SCORE, does it make any difference ?

[@Drganguli]

The use of GRE by US colleges makes the education system Much better

[@cxk6]

I have a question, that is tuition fees and the cost of living in both Canada and USA are really high, how can you afford them

[@user-vc9iw9qx8w]

Do Indian students face issues in getting employed just because they are indians or it works equally for all nationalities and equal opportunities are given??

[@simoncaldeira9098]

I was told if you do Masters second time, you do not get opt after it

[@sadasode6735]

Just one caution....recouping money in 3 years is more or less applicable for only IT and CS field. If you are in core fields like Civil, Mechanical, Chemical or even MBA, possiblity exists by probability low. IT or CS can easily crack salaries 80k to 100k right out of MS program, that is just average run of the mill universities. Core engineering jobs are still struggle for H1b and pay scales are much less. So invest your money and time wisely. Canada and US economies are very different. In IT or CS I would say ratio of jobs availability is more like 1 to 15. Pay wise, if you earn 100k USD in US expect you will get 80-90 CAD in Canada.

[@smwk2017]

Exchange rate is about 1.32 to 1.36. Canadian taxes are higher due to socialized health care system.

[@hassangujjar3336]

Can we do like this: Study master in Canada and get PR there As well.. and after getting PR in Canada.. go to USA and work there in big tech companies. Is that possible? Wait for your kind response.. Thanks ❤️

[@codebasics]

Once you get a PR in canada you will have to wait to get citizenship of Canada first (takes close to 5 years) and then you can come to USA on TN visa. Read more here: www.visaplace.com/blog-immigration-law/work-canadian-citizen/ You can't come to USA for work on Canadian PR. Otherwise the whole world will follow this route and USA will be flooded.

[@hassangujjar3336]

@@codebasics Thanks for your kind words ❤️❤️😊

[@pranjal86able]

Canada has lots of awesome jobs and people are much nicer here in Canada. I would never leave.

[@shreehari2589]

@@pranjal86able yes absolutely, when people go to Canada they don't want to go to any other country

[@michelchaghoury9629]

@codebasics, hello we really missed u as a student graduated with a BS in Computer Communication Engineering from Lebanon i want to do my Master in France but in Data Science do you think it works? from BS in Comp Com Eng to DS ? or i need to start from Zero and study bs in DS and then MS in Data Science?

[@codebasics]

It absolutely works.

[@michelchaghoury9629]

@@codebasics ahh great i was woried that there is a difference between Computer Communication Engineering and Data Science i stated watching your vids and tuts and i realised that i really like DA and i want to specialize in this field thank you

[@smwk2017]

If you can speak French, please check out universities outside of greater Montreal area in Quebec. Starting in Fall 2023, if you study in French at a university located in outlying region (such as Sherbrooke, Quebec), your tuition will be reduced to $3000 CAD per year until graduation. Applicable programs are IT, engineering, social services, education or early childhood education.

[@DayanidhiNayakCA]

any advice on MS in accounting or data analytics in canada ?

[@peddiganesh2987]

I don't think you will get another 3 years of opt for second masters

[@thejas_HR]

Could you please also make a video on comparison btw Canada and UK

[@codebasics]

Point noted.

[@thejas_HR]

@@codebasics thank you!, as I was looking for Master's in jan'23 intake I started facing this confusion 😕

[@jeevanigowda7573]

Heyy can i do my masters in usa of computer engineering nd i opt for my CPT by stem for 3years in chance my h1 visa got rejected can i go and work in canada and settle their!?

[@smwk2017]

Approval of H-1B visa is about 30% because they use a lottery system. Each year, there are 65,000 new H-1B visas for Bachelor degrees, minus 6,800 for Chile and Singapore. For Masters, the odd is a bit better because there are 20,000 more visas for Masters. In 2021-2022, there are more than 199,000 Indians studying in USA. Canada does not give you any special consideration when it comes to hiring foreign nationals. Your best chance is to study in Canada for easier PR.

[@sithuaung3267]

Its clear US is definitely much better except for highest cost of living

[@James_Julia]

Hello, I want to attend Canada Master IT degree..Could you pls indicate me some good universities?

[@mr.shrinivas3399]

Can I change my major in ms, in Canada University ? Please reply me anyone

[@2krwdy726]

I am mechanical engineer I want to do masters in computer science is it possible in canada PG diploma??

[@indranildasgupta2312]

Crisp matter-of-fact video, absolutely like it. But curious to know 2 points 1. How did you continue for 14 years on H1B - another MS or there is some other way 2. During the OPT phase of 3 years, can someone consider moving over to Canada if he can manage a job etc

[@codebasics]

1. You get two H1B renewal (6 years total) without any issues as long as you have a job. In these 6 years you should aim to file your GC. I did that and once I have my I 140 with me, I can renew H1B unlimited number of times (3 years each) 2. Yes why not.

[@smwk2017]

@@codebasics Some could have dependent children born in India. Waiting 10 years for green card will affect their status once they turn 21. The queue for India is 10 years now.

[@siridinath]

Can I apply for master's in data science after graduation?? And suggestion the best University for master's in data science

[@smwk2017]

You can try Canada: U. of Toronto, U. of Waterloo, U. of Alberta, and UBC.

[@heisenbergwhite5845]

Sir waiting for your course, can you please update some details sir

[@codebasics]

Hey yes It will be launched around end of May this year.

[@heisenbergwhite5845]

@@codebasics thank you

[@pavanm5605]

Hi , I'm an undergrad student for fall semester. I got admits from ASU, Michigan State University , University of Delaware and University of South Florida for CS. Please share your Knowledge on what is the best fit for an undergrad CS course.

[@smwk2017]

Computer Science favors the young. Once you get older, they consider you obsolete. If you are in North America, there is added pressure for outsourcing work to low-cost centers overseas.

[@manikantaakhil537]

can we go to canada with a job offer after three H1B rejections in US

[@adeshr1218]

yes but there is difficulty there too u can see what and how in the video by yudiJ youtuber.

[@amanlama9843]

What is the scope of MHM in us???

[@ketulchaudhari2577]

One question that how we can change the career from software engineer to data science ? How we can put those skills in resume without any hand on experience in real world and able get selected ? Can you please suggest on this. Thanks

[@ravindrakale305]

Completing MS in Canada and getting job there. After 2/3 year s is it possible to get job in US after trying ?

[@smwk2017]

If you are Canadian (through naturalization), Computer System Analyst and Engineers are qualified to work in USA using TN-1 visa of USMCA agreement. TN-1 is a 3-yr non-immigration renewable visa that you can obtain in US-Canada border entry for $60. Software programmers (CS and IT) are not qualified.

[@Hello_am_Mr_Jello]

​@@smwk2017how about data scientists?

[@smwk2017]

@@Hello_am_Mr_Jello Not an eligible occupation under USMCA agreement. It is a prioritized STEM occupations by IRCC for PR in 2023.

[@beingumang23]

How many times can we apply after one year of study in masters and if get rejected in Usa ?

[@smwk2017]

You can try Canada for easier PR.

[@smwk2017]

After 3 years of PR, one can apply for Canadian citizenship. Under USMCA agreement, for certain occupations such as engineers and registered nurses, Canadians can work in US via a 3-yr non-immigration TN-1 visa which can be renewed as many times as required. TN-1 visa can be applied and obtained in US-Canada border crossing or in some airports by presenting the necessary documents and paying a fee (about $56 USD).

[@AmandeepSingh-cv5qz]

great info

[@harshupadhyay2032]

I too am planning to do same. We can try to get Citizenship in Canada and then we can TN-1 visa and be free from H1B lottery

[@AmandeepSingh-cv5qz]

@@harshupadhyay2032 so when are you moving

[@harshupadhyay2032]

@@AmandeepSingh-cv5qz I am now going to go for my bachelor's after that I will work for minimum 2 years to get experience and then apply for masters

[@harshupadhyay2032]

@@AmandeepSingh-cv5qz Are you too planning to go ??

[@dudefromsa]

Copl tips right herw Dhaval

[@nehanooka2025]

Hi I am also planning for master's in data science in US this Fall 2022. Firstly,can you help me with finalizing my university since you are been there you can give me better pros and cons. The 2 uni which i have shortlisted are UT Arlington and UMBC. The one question that is in my mind since i applied was is it really worth it investing 2 years and lakhs of rupees??Like my parents mentality is I have a decent job in India then why i feel the need to quit that.I doesn't feel satisfied in my current job and I want to explore the world outside india and grow mentally and technically. So, I am making my mind that it's worth leaving a good job for our own peace of mind. But my main concern is that the US companies prefer their native people over international students during hiring beacuse of H1B visa stuff. So, do u think we as a international student will land a job after graduating. Any tips and advice will be very helpful.

[@phaniindra5715]

I am in a similar situation. But if you are concerned about the job. 99% of my friends living in US got the job. The only issue I think is mostly with the Visa after graduation.

[@nehanooka2025]

@@phaniindra5715 Yeah. I totally agree with you in H1B visa situation . It's really fucked up and frustrating procedure. I am having second thoughts that should i have opted for Canada. But now I'm going in with my decision and leave that stress for future. When are you going btw and where?

[@phaniindra5715]

I am also planning for US. But I am in a completely different though.

[@NEILJOHNRA]

@@nehanooka2025 have u started studying? How is the feeling of being in the US? and where are u studying?

[@smwk2017]

@@nehanooka2025 If you were born in India, there is a 10-year queue for both EB-2 (advanced degrees and/or exceptional ability) and EB-3 (Bachelor degree). USCIS is now processing EB-2 and EB-3 green card visas of approved applicants from 2012. Green card processing is based on your country of birth, not citizenship (such as Indian Canadian through naturalization).

[@rickysharma215]

Sir i really need a little favour of your's i want to go u.s. for masters in agriculture is it valuable??? Have there any future in u.s. for agriculturists???

[@smwk2017]

Small farmers are going bankrupt. Agriculture is controlled by big corporations.

[@rickysharma215]

@@smwk2017 this reply is for usa farmers??

[@smwk2017]

@@rickysharma215 Big corporations buy up all the little farms. They use machines and chemical to farm. Less people are required for farming. For some produce that require manual labor for harvesting, they hire temp workers from Mexico.

[@rickysharma215]

@@smwk2017 thank you brother for the knowledge 😇

[@harshwaghela9982]

Sir, if our H1B visa gets rejected during 3 years of OPT in USA. Can we go to Canada by enrolling in any PG DIPLOMA course and then get PR in Canada?

[@nsahruday4435]

Sir can you explain job opportunities in canada.

[@smwk2017]

As a foreign student, you are at a disadvantage competing with the locals, unless you have something that they want such as unique electives and special field. No employers want to train and invest on someone for 2-3 years and then have that person disappeared due to visa issues.

[@smwk2017]

@SubArc Adventures Even between two Indians, one is Indian Canadian raised in Canada and one is an international student with a strong accent. In Quebec, the bias will be to hire those who are bilingual.

[@basharat2524]

Sir what you say about Germany 🇧🇪

[@smwk2017]

Germany has free tuition even for international students.

[@moirangthemvishalsingh]

Salaries in Europe are less but education cost is super low or free in public universities

[@Hello_am_Mr_Jello]

Did you know that Chad and Romania have the same flag

[@aniketverma7365]

HEY UNIVERSITY RANKING MATTERS IN USA FOR THE SEACH OF JOB ?

[@codebasics]

not much

[@smwk2017]

In Montreal area, companies prefer to hire from McGill University instead of Concordia University due to McGill's reputation. Even US companies would conduct interviews in McGill. According to 2023 QS World University Rankings, McGill is now the No. 1 Canadian university (Global Rank 31).

[@user-ot9hj6pj1q]

earthman Love America Or hate America. But no one can ignore America

[@sahej97]

Hang on! Masters over masters? Did i hear that right?😳

[@smwk2017]

For local Canadians and PRs, a Bachelor degree is sufficient to land a job. Master degree is usually not required. If you are interested in doing a PhD, the goal is to get your PR in Canada so you can start paying local resident tuition instead of international student tuition.

[@gigachad3226]

I have done my engineering in CSE in 2020 after that prepared for some government exams But now thinking of doing masters from abroad Which one should i do ? Masters in CSE/IT or Masters in Mba Also i am mediocre in studies and dont know programming much Please anyone suggest me ?

[@rutvijpatel3921]

Go for MBA in London

[@gigachad3226]

@@rutvijpatel3921 really why?

[@jayw698]

@@gigachad3226 you can do master in cse or it(bothe are same) in canada Why Canada? Reason - fees are low as compare to USA, - learn programming , doesn't need to master it, I will suggest python(it is most popular language now) It is not very difficult - after completing master in canada, you can easily get job of minimum 65000+ Canadian dollar (40 lakh rupees) per annum I said minimum - you can save 15 lakh+ minimum per year By calculating taxes,food bill, insurance, everything. - your cost of living will be less compared to usa - within 5 year you will get PR -

[@smwk2017]

You can do a 2-yr Master degree of Engineering in a Canadian university. While studying, you can work 20 hrs per week. During scheduled breaks, you can work full time. Upon graduation, apply for 3-yr PGWP. After working 1 year in a high quality job (TEER 0,1,2 or 3), you can apply for PR via Express Entry. In Canada, 1 year of physical presence is acknowledged from your pre-PR days. After 2-yr of PR, you can apply for Canadian citizenship. As Canadian and working as an Engineer, you can apply for engineering jobs in USA. Once hired, you can obtain TN-1 visa (USMCA agreement) from US-Canada border for $60. TN-1 is a 3-yr non-immigration visa that can be renewed as many times as necessary. In other words, you have both Canadian and USA job markets opening up for you.

[@inthemiddleofthenight477]

@@jayw698 hi is really minimum salary is 65000 CAD dollars

[@SUMANYADAV-bp9qv]

After study from Canada then can I move to usa for job.?

[@1PK1]

Its better u take citizenship first , after 2 yrs of study, u have to just wait for 3 more yrs for citizenship application. Then get TN1 visa and go and work in usa

[@smwk2017]

You should check out the list of qualified professions under USMCA agreement. Major in one of the professions in university. For Canadians, if the US jobs don't work out, they can always return to Canada.

[@melwynmathias6311]

@@smwk2017 Currently looking at Canada and USA for masters .What's the procedure and what majors is good to do from Canada to later work in usa

[@smwk2017]

@@melwynmathias6311 You need to be Canadian first to qualify for USMCA agreement's TN-1 visa. Please look at the list of qualified professions under USMCA. Engineers and Registered Nurses are okay. LPN (Licensed Practical Nurses) and Computer Programmers are not okay.

[@smwk2017]

@@melwynmathias6311 If you are looking for PR, Canada is easier than USA in terms of employment-based immigration. For Canadians in certain occupations, they can work in USA using non-immigration 3-yr renewable TN-1 visa (under USMCA agreement). There is a path to change from TN-1 visa to green card. If it doesn't work out, you can always return to Canada as Canadian.

[@rh334]

USA any day, job market in Canada sucks

[@smwk2017]

Agree. But for Indians, Canada offers an easier path for PR. After 3-yr of PR, they can apply for Canadian citizenship. With Canadian citizens, for certain professions such as engineer and registered nurse, they can work in USA through USMCA agreement (TN-1 visa).

[@rh334]

@@smwk2017 Yeah, it's true. Anyways H1B is getting more and more difficult nowadays. So, Canada makes more sense.

[@smwk2017]

@@rh334 Say you get your H-1B, and obtain your Labor Certification (proof that you are needed and not stealing jobs from qualified Americans), there is currently a 10-yr queue for employment based green card for India. Immigration lawyer fee can be $10k US easily.

[@kamaqlmolvi7812]

How did u survive without green card for 14 hrs.

[@codebasics]

On h1b.

[@kamaqlmolvi7812]

@@codebasics thanks for your response, which state are you in and how do you apply for jobs. Are there any cheap rental rooms in your state that one can move? Is there scope of mechanical engineers?

[@naseerahmad4403]

I have 10 years study GAp I can apply study visa US

[@codebasics]

yes you can

[@sorry8537]

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[@JonBraydenCodes]

Hii can we become friends?

[@sufiyanbagwan5672]

Sir after graduation in masters from CS can every one get job easily or it may difficult?

[@codebasics]

I would not say it is easy. I see people struggle for their first job but after enough hard work and patience most of the students get a job. I know very few who go back to their country.

[@sufiyanbagwan5672]

@@codebasics after go back to India they can get job in india on the basis of USA master degree

[@smwk2017]

You need to show an edge (such as good GPA, electives, unique projects, work experience, etc.) over your peers. Most large corporations outsource basic and low level work overseas. Usually new grads fall into the same territory as well.

[@smwk2017]

Upon graduation, you will be competing with the locals (Canadian citizens and landed immigrant PR's) for jobs. With PGWP, you need to show employers that you are worth it and willing to invest in you. Keep your GPA high; gain related experience through part time work or co-op; work for a professor; take elective classes wisely.

[@jeevankurian9148]

@@codebasics sir You told that you know few who didn't get job after ms in cs in usa. So you are saying they had to go back to India with 50lakhs loan...