USB-C audio sucks: Bring back the headphone jack!

Gordon walks us through the differences between USB-C analog and digital based dongles/headphones - and rants about why it's a mess. Phone makers need to get their **** in order!
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[@alanochoa5199]

Can this become a series called "Gordon's Gripes"

[@TNM001]

i approve of this idea

[@WarisAmirMohammad]

@@pcworld Grinding Gordon's Gears

[@thomaskeedesign]

Maybe like a...Rant of the Week?

[@userSoulguy]

MAKE IT HAPPEN PC WORLD

[@tallscreengabbo]

You know what really grinds my gears?

[@BIOHAZARD_V2]

Killing the 3.5mm jack is one of the most egregious examples of companies removing perfectly fine features in an attempt to be trendy or to sell more products. It's terrible.

[@Tsiikki]

They're trying to copy Apple, but they only copy the bad features from them..

[@RitaMaSTeR]

Well i think that for them to have water proof pgones they cannot suooort 3,5mmjack. I would never buh a ohone without the 3,5 Jack, but i understand that for some companies they focus on using your phone under eater when the usb c or your earpugs are not eater proof xD

[@BIOHAZARD_V2]

Samsung has IP68 water resistance AND a headphone jack, so you can have both

[@ec1021501]

I personally don't mind if they go with a balanced 4 pin jack. At least you can argue it is better than a 3.5, which removing the jack will never be.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

They did it to save money lets be honest

[@Venaloid]

Remember when these dongles were built into the phone? That was genius!

[@sam11182]

Much better to go the illegal way and put an earphone jack into the phones yourself

[@johnpetrov6602]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 3.5mm jack. It's absurd these companies need to compete over thinness. We could all use a bigger battery and we could all use a few of these convenient features.

[@Niaaal]

@@johnpetrov6602 it has nothing to do with thinness. It has to do with selling extra accessories and Bluetooth earphones for extra income

[@Sparatan117]

It's not so much about selling bluetooth accessories, but more of trying to push the market towards a wireless future. Tech will never advance if you don't force it to adapt. Necessity is the mother of invention.

[@anubhavkumarc]

Wireless will never be as reliable as wired. There will always be packets dropped in UDP. You don't need to force market in a different direction when there's no need to move to it. Wired headphones work better.

[@burgundypoint]

Getting rid of the 3.5 headphone jack is a DOWNGRADE. Let's not fool ourselves.

[@OutOfNameIdeas2]

Yes. Absolutely. Just got a pixel 7 pro and I love it so much... But. This. It's seriously making me consider selling it and keep using my Samsung S10 with the headphone jack. Bluetooth can't match aux quality even now. Also had this exact issue with dongles. Tried 2 nothing. Wasted 20$ and produced extra e waste which is always fun. Thanks apple

[@rohan_3128]

​@@OutOfNameIdeas2i was just inches away from making my mind and buy the new S24+, which is quite expensive for me but still I thought about giving it try, but suddenly the thought of car aux came into my mind, and now I won't be changing any phone soon since my car has only aux option and the aftermarket bluetooth just sucks.

[@yuxia5989]

The round 3.5mm audio jack is the best port...because it’s not one-sided or reversible, it’s rounded...you plug in your headphones without even look at it...

[@TheEpicLinkFreeman]

so are fingers and dildos but they still use those

[@851995STARGATE]

You plug in type c without looking at it as well...

[@thisBrian]

851995STARGATE type-c is reversible, even though you might not look at it, you still have to make sure it's "flat"; rounded connectors have 360degrees of orientation; not just two positions of right-side up or upside-down

[@Soldano999]

Yu Xia and you can repair it manually with an iron and very little knowledge in electronics.

[@sunkillersharkny]

@@TheEpicLinkFreeman you made me chuckle

[@d3monofchaos]

Samsung never removed it and they keep making this IP67, IP68 water resistant phones ...

[@elimalinsky7069]

@Nano Nano and water resistance, and specialized cooling pipes, and microSD expansion, and more radios and sensors than ever before, and curved display, and wireless charging surface. No room excuse is bs.

[@albocaj5975]

and LG is all that but with best audio...

[@loyalitiy]

@@albocaj5975 but with none existing long term updates. I received for my P880 (flagship back then) only one update. While the other have much more. PS.: My S7 at least received Android 8.0, don't know about their update policies now but back then it was shit, that's why I switched to samsung.

[@CreatorViruZ]

@@elimalinsky7069 so fucking true, samsung phones nowdays give you everything you want and honestly people saying samsung phones are bad are still stuck in 2013

[@codyrap95]

I used to hate Samsung but they seem to be the only serious phone manufacturer

[@amazingfabs]

They're removing them so that can sell us $250 Bluetooth headphones

[@FAT8893]

...and Bluetooth headphones are CRAP! Yes, they remove the clutter of the wired, but I'll be more than happy to let the hardware do the job with the analogue port instead of the software doing the job, which can easily go wrong at the most unexpected time. I really have learned that lesson the hard way.

[@Justakatto]

@@FAT8893 Oof... Did your phone's audio stream switch from Bluetooth headphones to speaker at an awkward time 👀

[@taxevasionwitt]

And having to charge your headphones is the stupidest thing ever like what if i forget to charge them? And the best thing about headphones is that they last a VERY long time but with those AirPods, once the battery dies, its gone.

[@lockergr]

Which aren't good for your brain.

[@Venaloid]

Remember when headphones just worked AND didn't need to be recharged?

[@okaro6595]

Yes, I normally use Bluetooth. I have my 3.5 headphones on the Bluetooth receiver. If I run out of the battery, I just unplug the phones form the Bluetooth and connect directly to my phone. No extra dongles needed. If my phone battery runs out, I hook my power bank to the USB-C. No extra dongles needed.

[@KevinContreras2013]

Depends on what headphones you get. Some last for over 24 hours on a single charge

[@vahtito]

I do remember having to buy new wired headphones every 3 months

[@rileycrossin2617]

Kevin Contreras My headphones last about 40 hours on a charge.

[@Lucky8s]

Remember when phones didn't exist AND everyone just communicated in person or through mail. That's how stupid your comment sounds. You're stuck in the past, grandpa.

[@chenseanxy]

This is sooo true.. 3.5mm is already a world-wide standard and it works perfectly fine.

[@westsenkovec]

This shit we're dealing with is all Apples fault. They couldn't make their products thinner so they had to eliminate things in order to sell an illusion. In the end with all the dongles the device ends up being even bulkier.

[@harshnemesis]

You know you're stuck in the past when it's not just apple doing it but all other companies are as well. There is no need for any dongles Bt earbuds are actually very cheap and 100x more convinient. Btw it wasn't done to make it thinner, it was to waterproof and use that space for something else because 3.5mm jack is pretty bulky actually where space is at premium.

[@evila9076]

@@harshnemesis oh STFU Samsung had water resistant phone with headphone jack It was done only to sell u overpriced apple dongles and earbuds

[@harshnemesis]

@@evila9076 I'm not saying it's impossible, dumbass, but the water resistant headphone jack is patented and YOU as costumer ARE PAYING for IT whenever you use it or not.. I'm so glad iPhone just got rid of this ancient relic instead. The dongle was included for the peasants still wishing to use their $3 Walmart earbuds and last time I checked any $4 bt earbuds from china work with the iPhone, so your argument just falls apart there.

[@risquedj]

@@harshnemesis Getting rid of the 3.5mm on the iPad Pro was STUPID!!!! USB-C Digital audio BLOWS compared to Analog audio. If Apple really cared about us "creatives" like they always claim to in their marketing, they wouldn't have removed that, as you called it, "ancient relic". Damn, average consumers like you drive me crazy!! You are ruining it for the rest of us that want to do more with our phones/tablets than simply watch youtube or surf the net.

[@harshnemesis]

@@risquedj Not true Analog sucks.. you're probably a vinyl hipster too who thinks vinyls sound the best... haha what a walking joke. iPad is just a smartphone with a larger screen... it's not exactly stupid... it was never intended to be used with musicians and what not... people are just retarded and don't know what laptops are for. I'm not a regular costumer but for sake of the argument let's pretend I am. No you're ruining it for the rest of us... the needs of few don't outweighs the needs of many, you moron. The fact iPhone or iPad doesn't have a headphone jack, but you think you need one, is your problem... Apple never claimed their devices are for everyone.. you're the one using them outside their intended purposes so either buy a freaking computer or use the dongle, I don't give a shit, the ancient connector is going away not coming back, lmao

[@mmorales508]

When you got companies like Samsung that can make an all-glass phone with every feature one can possibly think of, have an SD card slot, duo speakers, the best display in the business, wireless charging, fast charging, fingerprint scanner and well... You known what I mean. All that while being IP68 and still have the damned 3.5mm jack, there's no excuse to not have it on phones.

[@kai-jf2vd]

Its all honestly just business and shareholders screwing the customers, heck Sony was one of the first industry to bring ip68 with 3.5mm jack but fucking sell outs they removed it on their newest xz3.

[@carrottoponcrak]

Samsung needs a removable battery again and they're phones would be perfect

[@kai-jf2vd]

@@carrottoponcrak too much of a trade off honestly unless you're prepared lose ip ratings considering qc is common nowadays

[@carrottoponcrak]

@@kai-jf2vd if you're seriously worried about water damage on your phone I think you need to reconsider taking a phone with you for whatever you're doing. Companies design these phones for you not to have a case because it makes them and the insurance companies more money, and they know removable batteries can actually hurt their profits because their phones have a longer lifespan. I used to work in the phone industry for years, it's a giant scam between the manufacturers and the insurance companies. No one wants you to hold onto your phone for more than 18 months because they lose money

[@Mindpron]

Removable batteries aren't going to come back, because of the way batteries are tariffed. Phone manufacturers went non-removable because a non-removable battery is considered an essential component of the phone therefore are not tariffed separately while removable batteries are. So the profit margin on a phone with a non-removable battery is just slightly better and more stable than it's non-removable counterpart.

[@elahn_i]

A 3.5mm jack is a requirement for my mobile phone purchases. Period.

[@onibon1990]

That leaves you with Samsung and LG..thats it. even OnePlus has decided to drop the headphone jack. fucking tragic

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

Anirban Mukherjee I have no issues with Samsung but that doesn't mean I don't want there to be no point to consider other phones. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF ANDROID! But nope. The more expensive the phone the less important the essential headphone jack becomes. Imagine how stupid you'd feel in a situation where you're with your friend, who owns a $300 phone and a situation comes up where you need to use his headphones and you ask him for a dongle, too.

[@owo7094]

@@onibon1990 but OP6 has headphone jack *:thinking:*

[@onibon1990]

@@owo7094 OP 6T won't. Its been confirmed by the CEO

[@owo7094]

@@onibon1990 source pls ty

[@9852323]

It’s 2022 and I’m still mad they took away my headphone jack.

[@nightmarerex2035]

did they do it "For the envirement?" but having to charge a pair of headphones an extra billion plus batteries in the world certantly isent better for the envirment than a billion plus 3.5 jacks?

[@akeem2983]

It's 2024 and I'm RAGING

[@sciencelover3339]

@@akeem2983 Same in 2025 (and I use both wired and wireless earbuds, but wireless don't work for everything)

[@gaganpreetxp]

Thumps up for lg and samsung for keeping the 3.5mm jack

[@GamjaField]

Not for long

[@LaTanaDiKosky]

And OnePl.. Oh.

[@Chris-uv8hq]

Use mine every night, no making sure something is charged just plug and play.

[@Alpha-soixante]

Too bad audio quality and driving power on my Galaxy S8+ blows. Samsung needs to take a page from the LG V30 and put a decent DAC and amp in these expensive phones!

[@apexone5502]

That's one of the reasons why I have an LG. I have skipped a number of phones that I was interested in all because they decided to leave off the headphone jack. That's a no go.

[@gvfc]

If you buy a phone without the 3.5mm jack then you are the problem, not the companies. Don't support products that are broken by design.

[@kingwindie]

thank you, alot of people are stupid, they don't like the idea of a phone not having a 3.5 but they still buy the phone, i never understand logic like that

[@natfingerboard]

Right? It's like being a vegan and buying and eating meat. When you support a cause and you are against something you go out of your way to make a statement.

[@cubzrulz]

I needed a new phone this year didn't have many options. I ended getting the first Google pixel XL I need that headphone jack.

[@userjff182]

BULLSHT!!! Most of the companies want to phazed them out cuz they want to force you to use bluetooth headphones. Which huge health risk for you brain. companies want to make smart phone smarter, so they can make humans more stupid. This is LITERAL not a metaphor! THIS IS DEFINITELY MANUFACTURERS' FAULT.

[@Sevival]

You need to be way more open minded and not all people are a like. I always use Bluetooth because i fucking hate headphone wires breaking constantly or getting tangled or getting stuck behind objects. So I literally never use the Jack

[@Rmf8]

Great video! 3.5mm needs to return to phones!

[@radnakse_mada]

You should look up samsung flagship phones. All, all of them have 3.5mm jack.

[@zCATAHAz]

Just don't buy phones without 3.5 ,bastards will put it back in a heart beat. I myself wont buy 1 and Im using headphones about 3 times a year ,but fk em ,I want option to use 1-2$ headphones if I need to... Cause most time I want them on some trip ,when I forgot good 1 or its somewhere in the luggage...

[@harshnemesis]

No it doesn't get with time

[@clickbaitpro]

Yeah....because of the sound quality and convenience

[@harshnemesis]

+harshit Namdeo, last time I checked the stupid wires they got are anything but convenient and you can get decent sounding bt earbuds from china for sub $30. The ancient jack is going away not coming back, to make room for superior bt technology, get with the times. The usb-c port is also going away btw on iPhone, the goal is to make a phone without any physical connections.

[@Slowdr]

Vote with your wallet people, don't buy phones that don't have a headphone jack

[@teej5619]

Its what determines what happens in the market.....

[@evilution_ltd]

We can’t live in the past. Everything else is going wireless.

[@laurijss]

I did. Instead buying Xperia XZ2, i bought XZ1 👍

[@laurijss]

@@evilution_ltd Wireless (Bluetooth) audio have a lot worse audio quality! No, thanks!

[@estupidowario]

Right, that is the best way to demand it, the only problem are the bunch of conformist who accept corporate decisions instead of question them

[@Starfals]

Bluetooth has its problems, and the headsets run out of juice quite fast.. especially the small ones that you want to carry on a plane/during a walk outside. We need a stupid 3.5 hole in the phones. I swear, i will never buy a phone without it, even if i have to get an older one. I got a 200$ pairs (2 pairs) of Bluetooth buds and guess whaaaaaaaat... from 8 hours charge.. they drop to 2 hours within half a year of use. I wont spend that kind of money every year. GIVE US THE DAMN HOLE YOU BLOODY MANIACS.

[@miliyn17]

Starfals AirPods don’t have those problems. Connect instantly and without problems. They all last for days

[@brbix4005]

AirPods have a big problem that is called sound quality... They lack anything under 80 Hz... And the sound is muddy...

[@SirDella]

@@brbix4005 with this type of wireless / usb c shit people are focusing less on the most important thing of headphones, the sound

[@brbix4005]

@@SirDella I know, wireless audio kinda sucks and is lossy even today... There is another wireless solution which is pretty much lossless, and that solution is called Wi-Fi... Only Fidelio X2 Wireless, Bose QC35II, that Sony NC blue headphones and Bowers&Wilkins wireless headphones can be considered good... But they still get lossy audio from source(phone in most cases), and that is why I still like my tangly wires...

[@03Ryen]

@@miliyn17 Thing is Mitch.. can I call you mitch? I'm calling you mitch. It is an unnecessary comprmise. Waterproofing , slimming of the phones, battery size.. Samsung has proven that it is possible to do all those things WITHOUT taking out the 3.5 jack. I'd use my phone (oneplus) as an example but they just announced recently that they're also killing jack. All of apple's excuses in taking it out, was put down by Samsung by simply showing them It is possible. The reason.. the real reason why they did it is to sell you dongles and also by making the airpods a selling point. I'm a very open minded guy. Maybe you can enlighten me why jack had to die. Jack. jack. Jack wake up. Jaaaaaaaaack. (titanic scene)

[@512TheWolf512]

No jack - no buy Simple as that

[@harshnemesis]

Get with the times, or you will get left behind because physical connectors are going away, BT earbuds and wireless charging is the future.

[@leDespicable]

Great, but I wouldn't call it "getting with the times" when you have to leave your perfectly working earphones behind and buy wireless ones...I want to be able to listen to music without my earphones running out of battery in the middle of my daily train ride home...

[@EPSuttaVinaya]

make t-shirts with this slogan

[@harshnemesis]

A person who still needs a headphone jack is too dumb to use all the new technology anyway.

[@harshnemesis]

@@leDespicable A floppy drive also worked perfectly fine, lets bring that back as well. Buy two pairs of $26 bt earbuds from china then and have unused ones inside the little charging case, if you don't get sick of the music after 5 or w/e hours

[@kayzphotography3678]

In a world that is well into wireless technology, they want us to carry more wires with dongles and adapters.

[@kky.x]

Kayz Photography They want you to buy bluetooth headphones

[@kayzphotography3678]

@@kky.x Bluetooth headphones/earphones, that require additional charging i.e. still needing a cable to use those headphones/earphones.

[@todanrg3]

Oh, cmon! This freeing up space BS. A 3.5 jack is tiny and phones are getting bigger and bigger every year. And many high-end phones like S9 include the audio jack. Making phone waterproof was an excuse for sealing the batteries, yet half of the phones are not weathersealed. Bluetooth headphones are great but offer choice at least.

[@perwestermark8920]

@Nate Morey I haven't seen any phone that has freed up any space for a larger battery. Have you, and which phone would that be?

[@todanrg3]

It's just a matter of how it's designed i believe. Samsung S8, S9 are pretty high end phones and those have the 3.5 jack, so do many other phones. Also, how do you charge your phone and listen to music at the same time if your phone only has one USB port?

[@byronb.]

Finally someone clarified a very common Android frustration. Especially since the industry blindly followed Apple with no viable HiFi replacement for the headphone jack.

[@kai-jf2vd]

Get on that poco hype train baybee since even oneplus is abandoning headphone jack (fuck you sony, you promised you're gonna keep the jack). Another alternative is to get a dap.

[@mjc0961]

*Except Samsung

[@rickyhall7514]

Don't believe their 3.5mm jack was hi-fi to begin with 🤔.

[@byronb.]

Yes, it can be. Especially when you add a DAC. The LG V30 for example, has a heavily developed HiFi headphone jack including a built-in Quad DAC and supports TIDAL Hi Definition audio format, called TIDAL Masters (MQA).

[@justinnaramor6050]

@@byronb. You said "especially when you add a DAC", but you nead a DAC to even get sound to your headphones, it can't work without it.

[@hey01e5]

5 years later, you'd think companies would reverse this terrible tech trend. and yet here we are these greedy corporations will have to pry the headphone jack from my cold, dead hands

[@absolutemadlad7828]

Still running the x2 pro (using since july 2020) looking to upgrade only asus rog 8 pro is the option available rn which is way out of the budget (Less than 500$) will continue to use this for 2 more years and just go for the best gaming phone with jack and good dacs at that time

[@spinkick9270]

This is the best topic for the entire year so far. Dongle life ain't worth it. Bluetooth audio especially with headphones is not that great when watching videos sometimes you have to pause when you resume booom audio out of sync. I hate dongled earphones/headphones. Thanks Gordon.

[@SaturnusDK]

Not to mention that Bluetooth audio quality is a mine field of it's own. Although many devices support higher definition standards like AAC, AptX, or AptX HD most manufacturers have their own interpretation of these so you can't use (in most cases) an iphone AAC or AptX with a non-Apple licensed device, and many android phone makers have similarly unique interpretations of the so-called "standards", so what most often happens is that the Bluetooth connection defaults back to the old SBC standard from BT1.1 with it's frankly abysmal audio quality (similar to 128kbs MP3 so some people will still call that great though).

[@spinkick9270]

I watch alot of videos and out of sync audio is the biggest concern for me. Audio quality via dongle or Bluetooth (mostly headphones/sets) are a huge pain too. I can't believe how these manufacturers screw us every single time.

[@FakeGordonMahUng]

You know what sucks? I bought 3 Google dongles and put 1 in my wallet. One day I needed it and...it must have fallen out. So then I had to order another one because the other two are in their places. I ordered 2 more and it took 1.5 months to get them directly from Google. So yeah: Just put the stupid jack back on the phone.

[@evertonc1448]

Never got those problems, guess it's because both my phone and headphone are BT 5.0. I'm basically full time BT now.

[@SaturnusDK]

Everton Correia Have you checked what codec you're actually using? Unless you have done something it's probably SBC which means you might as well have BT2.1 (A2DP is from BT2.1).

[@omemester6985]

I'm completely with you man, the headphone jack needs to be brought back!

[@Ludak021]

just buy a cheaper model instead of "we'll rip you off ha-ha" model ;)

[@TheLemonBird]

Dat Mass they should bring back the p/s2 port

[@omemester6985]

@@Ludak021 Exactly I'm not gonna buy some overpriced phone. I'm currently using a xiaomi redmi 5 plus with a snapdragon 625,3gb of ram, a 1080p screen, a headphone jack and an IR blaster, and all of this for 150usd. Never been happier.

[@3mar00ss6]

@@omemester6985 I'm using J7's and honor6x's amazing and enough for everyone

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Running a Honor 9, and I'm really surprised what they put in it. Dual SIM/microSD, 64 gig, 4 gb ram, 1080p display, headphone jack, usb-c, nothing to complain for the price. This is how it should be.

[@AD-hk8hf]

Long live the 3.5mm jack!

[@mangoldm]

Lots of us work in secure environments where BT is verboten but also don’t want to enter dongle hell. Please save the jacks!

[@ShaunakDe]

Not to mention - try doing an 18-hour long-haul flight + 8-hour layover with blue-tooth audio.

[@Linkedblade]

Samsung is the messiah i guess

[@jacobwebb8818]

@@Linkedblade LG is an audiophile's dream mobile manufacturer

[@TheEpicLinkFreeman]

don't buy a phone that doesn't have one, and you can get a 10,000 mAh battery bank from Anker for $30 oh wait if you want to use one of those with your type c headphones you need a splitter dongle... then you need your 3.5mm dongle...

[@sniperpronerfmods9811]

Dont you have docks at work?

[@Kiana_Sirin]

No headphone jack is a dealbreaker , removing it means im jumping ship

[@Viewer13128]

+Herbert N when they are all gone, we would probably have proven and approved better technology by then. we only jump ship now because technology hasnt caught up with the design.

[@bbbbbbb51]

@@Viewer13128 no sir, only YOU have not caught up with the design. The industry has had 0 problem with it.

[@alponselrik]

@@bbbbbbb51 tell me to move over to BT when there is 0 latency.

[@alponselrik]

Do not mistaken tho . I love BT whein i play music or watch video.. but when gaming

[@Viewer13128]

+Brandon Johnson Sir... you don't seem to get it. "When they're all gone" is key here. The very fact that not every top end audiophile grade earphone or low end earphone has switched to usb-c means usb-c technology isn't set in stone yet... We are not talking about whether you experienced any bugs or not as of yet... If I have to use an adapter to connect to the phone, then it means the switch in technology is still ongoing and incomplete. "When they're all gone" means it is complete. And "when they're all gone" means I will have no problem using usb-c because it would have been perfected and completely adapted by the entire world (or at least first world countries).

[@toyratz]

*bring backs headphone jack* *removes charging port*

[@Karim94222]

Toyratz - Gaming, Tutorials i see apple doing this, only possible to charge it wirelessly

[@CortyCze]

Basically Note 7

[@kitsunekid16]

Wouldnt actually be a bad thing since they have fast wireless charging now and you dont have to worry about depreciating the charging port. Removing headphone jack was stupid because you have to charge wirless headphones and if you dont have an option for wired then you're boned

[@harshnemesis]

+Urban Kitsune if you need to use them for longer than their battery lasts just get two sets they are like as low as $4 from china, this basically gives you and unlimited battery life, you're welcome. Welcome to future, it's time to move on from ancient headphone jack that I have no idea why it survived for so long as it's insanely huge connector for only having 3 or 4 pins lmao...

[@wastebin996]

*power via 3.5mm*

[@Anonymous-pr3gr]

A phone without a headphone jack is not a phone worth buying

[@abobobilly]

Agreed. The upcoming One Plus 6T is already out of my list. Fuck these companies screwing their customers over. Seems like Samsung is going strong with 3.5mm headphone jack. All the more reason to get Note 9 lol.

[@abobobilly]

Current tech situation is really not worth using a USB-C Audio, especially when almost all high end audio headphones still use 3.5mm headphone jack. And using dongles is something i never want to do. Ever. It's such a fuckin' chore to take such teeny weeny wires with you everywhere. And if you don't have it, or if it's not the right size ... you're fucked. Tomorrow, if I'm in a situation where we don't have any choice but to settle with what i already have, then we would, hopefully, atleast have SOME alternative available at our disposal.

[@zCATAHAz]

You forgot the part that you can always get 1-2$ 3.5 headphones everywhere ,if you lost ,forgot or discharged good 1...

[@harshnemesis]

Get with times, bt earbuds are actually pretty cheap from china and you can buy 2 pairs of these if you're worried about battery life.

[@NiharSavala]

And PPL will still go ahead n buy $1500 iphones. This whole trend started with Apple. And all the mindless Android companies followed suit.

[@charlotteice5704]

I love and need my headphone jack. I hate bluetooth, it propably sucks a lot of power out of your phone and you need to connect it. With the headphone jack, I just plug it in. Done. I'm also not a fan of dongles. There is just nothing that beats the simplicity of the good old 3.5 mm headphone jack. If I want to play my phone's audio on my radio's big speakers, I just use the headphone jack. It is so widely accepted.

[@alvallac2171]

*probably

[@rwhoosh1122]

alvallac21 Thx for fixing there grammar.

[@harshnemesis]

Because you're living in the past, bt is way more convenient and just better and no it does not suck alot of the power out of your phone, it sucks less because the phone has no longer to power up the headphone speakers, the separate battery does that and bt doesn't take as much power so in terms of your phone battery you're actually on better. There is nothing as annoying as the headphone wires that get in the way, get stuck in the stuff even if you put it under the shirt and they break every 3 to 6 months. Bt module for your bigger speakers is like $10... any speakers can be easily bt enabled by just plugging them in the bt module and then connecting with the phone. If you're a bit of diy guy you can make that even more seamless without buying enabled bt speakers. Open up the speakers or amp and install that little bt circuitry inside the device itself as it will probably fit (the board is small and amps have plenty of space, speaker cabinets even more) connect it to the power (might need to be step down with a voltage regulator) and of course hook it into the audio in wires (the backside of the 3.5mm jack).

[@chucklesdeclown8819]

@@harshnemesis has no one heard of, ohh I dont know, sticking the cable through their shirt? I dont get that part of the arguement one bit.

[@harshnemesis]

@@chucklesdeclown8819 But I mentioned that... I can't believe I have to explain this in detail. Yes everyone knows that trick and no that doesn't solve the problem because even with routing the cable under the shirt, I have still managed to get the stupid wire to catch into shit, of course when that happened it resulted in forceful removal of the earbuds from my ears, or it even pulls out the pda which then drops on the floor(yes the pda because wired earbuds are so ancient they belong into 2003-2010 pocket pc era) Why it happens? Because the part of the wire which comes out the shirt and then into the pocket where it plugs into a pda is fully exposed. If you make it tight it's uncomfortable, if you don't then then the exposed wire just makes a nice little arc ready to catch into shit that you pass. Also the whole process of setting it all up was frustrating and took some time, to do, because you have to fish the cable through, and clip it so it doesn't pull down and if you later decide you want to use the pda while listening to the music, you have to unplug it pull the wire out and plug it in... such pain in the ass. It wan't even worth the trouble, I have opted to just use the speaker or not listen to the music at all so many times, because it was just too much effort. Meanwhile you just turn on the bluetooth earbuds, they work instantly (+1) you don't have to worry about any wires getting stuck into shit or breaking (+2) and you can just put the phone wherever you want in the room and you still hear the music (+3) Imagine a life where you aren't tethered to your device... Oh wait we already have that

[@OptimusV]

Very well said, I'm glad Samsung, LG and a few others are still offering the headphone jack. Removing is #1 bullshit.

[@Des420]

Unexpected Khabib quote... I approve.

[@OptimusV]

@@Des420 haha thanks, glad someone got the reference

[@Des420]

+Optimus No worries. Whats your prediction for the fight?

[@OptimusV]

@@Des420 I think I would favour it 60/40 Khabib, he's got a great chin but he shouldn't test it against Conor. He tends to leave it out in the open but his chain wrestling and pace is unreal, he needs to stick to that and I think he'll do fine.

[@Des420]

+Optimus Solid call, and that should be his game plan: Close, clinch, takedown, smother and smash. If I knew he would stick to that only, I'd give him even higher odds to win... But he's been standing up with everyone recently to "make point". That is a very bad idea to try on Connor with a full gas tank. For me, if it ends early: Connor. Anything after round 2: Khabib.

[@tusharkakshapati7610]

This kind of issues are the important stuff tech channels should talk abt instead they act as a channel to feed us adds. Props to them for bringing this up.

[@Atulnavadiya]

Agree

[@sumitbali9194]

3.5 mm headphone jacks deserve a comeback

[@CallMeNumber8]

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@notme6753]

Watching this on my note 9 using my headphone connected to the 3.5 headphone jack and laughing...

[@nurfarahainsaid]

Ikr

[@flashfrick]

Same here with my s9+😉

[@LiquidSnake1988]

LGv30. Count me in

[@DrCognitive]

Just got a Note 9 as well. Kind of wondering how we'll feel in a year or two when our $1000 phone holds a charge for about 15 minutes.

[@yardstickwhack]

@@DrCognitive just get the battery changed

[@unclegamer6705]

I actually actively look for a 3.5 mm jack or will not buy a phone for this specific reason. Love that if I forget my headset I can buy ANYTHING and it works.

[@memberberry6177]

Me too.. Also FM radio.. Since Sony killed both on their flagships, I'm switching.

[@TheMe26]

@rabitman3000 but 13 dongles arent 1 cable

[@edwardr8226]

2023 here, we still miss the headphone jack

[@cashflowz4010]

Imagine using type c headphone and you can't charge your phone at the same time bring back headphone jack

[@slendermanslender7691]

boycott phones without jack

[@sur_face]

Gotta love Samsung for keeping the Headphone jack alive

[@AntAciieed]

For now

[@travism8597]

And LG

[@aos32]

LG has the best quality sound on any phone on the market because of the high quality quad DAC in the phones. I personally have a LG G7 Thinq that i picked up for half the price of a S9+. And I am very happy with my purchase.

[@TheAcadianGuy]

That's why I stick with them

[@sur_face]

Happy for you

[@VaunShiz]

Note 9 has a 6.4 inch screen a 4000 MaH batter a S Pen with low power Bluetooth in the pen and is iP68 water resistant and has a headphone jack. So what's all these companies excuses

[@jackyingoff6614]

When u get water into a galaxy it'll tell u to not charge ur phone for like 2 hours while every other ip67 or ip68 phone can charge like 2 min later

[@starstruckz21]

@@jackyingoff6614 i'll gladly have that over not having a 3.5mm jack...

[@jackyingoff6614]

starstruckz21 yeah but thats kinda inconvenient cause what if ur low on battery and u have to wait for hours to charge ur phone, but with the headphone thing they u usb earphones so u dont have to use dongles

[@starstruckz21]

@@jackyingoff6614 how often do you get water into your phone? Personally, I prefer the practicality of a jack because I have never had water near my phone 😆

[@jackyingoff6614]

starstruckz21 u say that but people will cry over phones that have ip67 instead of ip68

[@michelaser]

The only way to fix any problem is to return what you bought and ask for a total refund, then write to the president of the company and complain. Remember, you are the boss, companies need you.. you don’t need them.

[@RIAM47]

I refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack..

[@David-fg4nu]

You’re going to run out of options in a few years

[@NenadKralj]

resistance is futile you will be assimilated // we are the borg !!

[@clickbaitpro]

Me too

[@ramue5749]

Me too, it is literally the first thing I check when looking at phones. I would sooner use outdated tech then use a phone with no 3.5mm jack. The one trend Apple actually made mainstream and it is such garbage.

[@Matanumi]

Yes I'm.in this boat...furthermore I refuse to buy a phone without an fm radio...REALLY running out of options but some phones still.do it

[@debbyclowner]

I love when I want to mess around on garage band on my iPhone 8 and i don’t have a headphone jack. One of two things becomes apparent: 1. I need to sacrifice charging for either a crappy dongle that clicks when I move or crappy iPhone headphones without good low end, or 2. I need to use a minimum $60 pair of crummy Bluetooth headphones with a latency in the SECONDS, making my life harder when I want to charge my phone while wanting to mess around on Garage Band. Who ever decided that it would be more convenient to have to charge both your headphones and phone while also suffering latency and the probability of content consumption dead time should be shot from a cannon into the sun with a wadding made from an enlarged 3.5mm audio jack.

[@NoName-nw5kn]

Don't forget that bluetooth re-encodes audio. So if you're playing an audio file that has already been degraded by being encoded to some lossy format, it is getting encoded yet again to another lossy. So that is just shit on top of shit. You can avoid this by encoding to a lossless format, but then you'll sacrificing space to fix and issue that never should be an issue to begin with.

[@sonhtruong]

But you'll continue to buy iproducts so Apple won't be hurting for cash to add the headphone jack back in.

[@Sketch1994]

Don't forget that their target customers are supposed to be professionals....LOL

[@europeanlegend9347]

I mean, you could always just not buy an iphone. It's funny, apple does something people aren't happy about. they increase the price. people pay and just bitch constantly. if you dont like it, there are many other products better than iphones that STILL use 3.5 mm jacks. Not to mention software better than garageband.

[@Emppu_T.]

They did it because of courage...

[@nevillewhite1966]

Needed for old school line-out to line-in application options. They already trying to make us totally dependent by moving towards eliminating wired hole connections. This will give less options and control over your audio files.

[@TissueCat]

Even if USB-C does turn out to be the future, and 20 years from now all wired headphones are USB-C, I'll still want two ports on my phone so I can charge it and use wired headphones at the same time.

[@tanzhonghui]

Oh... That's what the dozen incompatible standards of wireless charging will be for!

[@snow15243]

I know something. 2 usb c ports!

[@BetonBenni]

www.amazon.com/Sunjoyco-Headphone-Converter-Supports-Charging/dp/B07BTL1VYN?keywords=2+in+1+USB+c+type+3.5&qid=1537475210&sr=8-10&ref=mp_s_a_1_10

[@Sergei__v]

Why not keep audio jack and a usb-c port?

[@DonnyStanley]

I actually agree that I'd your going to ditch 3.5mm ports at least add TWO USB-C ports instead of one so that way you have a dedicated charging port and an accessory port that's flexible (can display out, audio out, etc). Then at least it's a trade off and not a cut.

[@dillontrauth8674]

One of the main reasons I got the LG V30 last year was BECAUSE it had a 3.5mm jack.

[@mrc14_2]

The same reason i buyed my S8 over the iPhone 7

[@maximgheorghe2800]

Audio quality from V30 is good, this was the main reason from me, too.

[@Phrancis5]

Still love my LG-V20 with headphone jack and quad-DAC! IR blaster and removable battery too.

[@RickySnows]

you´re so right: we've upgraded with video quality but brutally downgraded with audio quality: DAC Dongle is NOT a solution

[@mattcelder]

I'm surprised you didn't mention what happens at 2:07! That's one of the worst implementations I've ever seen. EVEN IF you have the correct type of dongle, it STILL plays audio through the speakers for a few seconds before the driver loads on the phone. Meaning if you're on a bus or plane, everyone hears your music blasting for a couple seconds even if you have everything set up correctly. It blows my mind that Google thinks "yep this is the future."

[@LarryLopez91]

Just imagine trying to watch porn with that setup!

[@leveskockaa]

sounds like the past to be honest. I remember the pre android days, when browsing the internet and listening to high def audio caused my little Samsung phone to reboot. this came to my mind watching this, pathetic

[@liev535]

i don't know why you are talking about Google when that's clearly LG phone you are talking about. it seems to me that other phones do not have this issue. If they do, then you may blame Google for this. Additionally, phones have different volume levels for bluetooth, speaker and headphones so why wouldn't the same apply to usb-c audio? you can set speaker sound to low to mitigate this issue, actual headphone volume will be whatever you have left it to previously.

[@spacy9571]

Typical LG with their software problems

[@andrescarrasco1248]

Never buying a phone without headphone jack

[@teej5619]

Yep.....

[@overclockedlife7550]

RIP Gordon. I meet you with exactly this video.

[@heathweather5995]

lesson, dont buy phones without a headphone jack.

[@N8DZN]

Agree Didn't buy the phone that I liked because of no headphone jack

[@RossTownsend]

Honestly, less and less people I know are upgrading! And it's because of "features" that are shit.

[@foufoufun]

Ross Townsend, I don't really find it necessary to upgrade your phone often. A 400-500$ phone can last you 4-5 years before it starts feeling slow. Unless you play demanding games or something, there is really no need to have a new powerful phone and it's not like they added any useful features on smartphones in the past 10 years. Though, on most phone, you can't change the battery easily and after about 3 years it doesn't hold its charge as long.

[@cheesewheel]

@@foufoufun See that's how they get you. I have a Pixel XL. I've had it since it first came out. Phone still works pretty well overall, but definitely less snappy than it used to, which is to be expected. My main issue is that my battery life is nowhere near as good as I'd like it to be. I feel like I need to plug it in a lot more than I should. I wish I could just simply get a new battery and throw it in myself but of course, it's all sealed up and I don't feel like risking doing it myself.

[@foufoufun]

+cheesewheel The batteries are not only soldered to the board, the cases are often very hard to open without breaking anything.

[@nonflyingfinn2173]

All the phones look gigantic so a tiny 3.5mm port shouldn't be an issue. How is one supposed to carry them around anymore. You don't want to look like the guy from spinal tap going through airport inspection.

[@GronTheMighty]

The Note 9 got a 3.5mm jack, and somehow has space for expandable memory and a pen - must be witchcraft or something ^^

[@prashnaveetprasad8339]

Samsung hates note 9 users

[@IntrexinCustom]

As somebody who refuses to buy a phone without a headphone jack I didnt know that, thats really crazy. Really thats just another reason for me to keep being stubborn about that port....along with removable storage haha

[@lucasrem]

Drew Pickard Removable storage haha, not ready for the cloud, what do u use, Apple lightning Photo kit? reason to keep old gear in 2018? you are getting old the only one! Just keep the NOKIA 3310 in 2018!

[@theodiscusgaming3909]

@@lucasrem the headphone jack is not "old gear", almost all headphones have 3.5mm connectors on them, not USB-C

[@IntrexinCustom]

My Samsung Note 9 is far from old tech, and the LG G6 it replaced wasnt old tech either. I said I was being stubborn not backward. And I probally use the cloud more than most, for both work and personal on my phone/pc. Dont assume people who want a headphone jack and removable storage are backward hicks running phones from 2000.

[@Jadinandrews]

I remember 3.5mm headphone jacks being a well sought after feature when phones started supporting MP3 playback. It's sad to see so many manufacturers trying to copy Apple and screw users.

[@Saiarts_yt]

Same. I dislike the current phone trends. But also our devices use usb-c chargers instead of micro usb. When the new days require new methods, I hate that phrase so much now.

[@michaelwalker552]

@@WilliamHelstad wireless is nowhere near as good as wired 3.5mm or 2.5mm or even 6.3mm or XLR Jack. Wireless audio is always gonna be a lower resolution then wired audio as its not coming through a cable with no interruptions or delay. Also with wireless you cant run it through a Dac unless the headphones have a jack built in which only a few headphones have

[@michaelwalker552]

@@WilliamHelstad no, Bluetooths bandwidth is nowhere near enough enough to support listening to audio without absolutely destroying the sound quality. I'm sorry but you have no clue what you're talking about

[@epicapexplays8467]

@@michaelwalker552 you are technically right, but your ears won't tell the difference

[@michaelwalker552]

@@epicapexplays8467 you ears entirely can tell the difference. If they couldn't studio grade equipment wouldn't be a thing. But you do you I guess

[@jackbaker9593]

i will never buy a phone without headphone jack

[@absolutemadlad7828]

Same

[@lumpyfishgravy]

So don't buy those phones. Manufacturers will have to learn the hard way.

[@GrubKiller436]

Unfortunately, people are just as stupid as the manufacturers. People will never learn. Just let them suffer.

[@Carewolf]

Lately it seems they have all gone fully fruity, so we might not have a choice next year.

[@todanrg3]

Unfortunately people will buy them and even defend companies for offering less choice. Just like they did when replaceable batteries died out.

[@kancheongspidergaming]

This is one of the biggest reasons I hold the Galaxy S9+. A company that has a reputation for sometimes not being in line with the trend for the good (where's the notch baby? Oh, that's f-ing right, we have the Infinity Display!).

[@danm4320]

This! Have the same phone. You don't realise you need something and until you need it. Headphone jack? I already have Bluetooth headphones but the number of times I've been able to hook up my AUX in a cab or party whilst my iPhone friends were left unable too. Samsung flagships are the Swiss knifes of phones

[@thenbenagcz3931]

You can charge your phone and listen to the music the same time

[@RetroPlus]

We're in 2024 now, and this is still an issue

[@allessan2]

Yes.

[@slap_my_hand]

They should remove the U from USB, because it clearly isn't very universal anymore.

[@iShredStreets]

slap_my_hand Then they should also switch from SB to BS. Because this is BS man!

[@captainribeye]

Just a tiny detail that Gordon had to flip the phones to actually know which one he's gonna plug in. We're now living in an era that cellphone design is dead and maybe a a couple of years later we won't even be able to tell the difference by looking at the back of the phones!

[@tonyjohnson5669]

Excuse Moi? I've noticed that when looking at phone benchmarks where phones are side by side. They are so similar in style it is hard to telk tthe physical difference.

[@trignite]

That's just what happens when the front of the phone is all screen. I don't see a problem as long as the backs are a bit distinctive, everyone loves small bezels.

[@mjc0961]

trignite No. Everyone does not love small bezels. Small bezels decrease usability and can go suck a fat one.

[@flyinghigh2000]

Screen to body ratio war. Most stupid decision imo. Sure it looked great. It feels like I'm trying to read a book with no margin. Where can I put my hand that won't obscure the display? Samsung flagship with their curve display is the worst culprit.

[@sugo8479]

i can't understand this complain (the one were "oh you'll touch the displaywith your hand if it has small bezels), how are you even holding your phone, i'm using my pinky so the phone doesn't fall and i don't wrap my hand around the phone, that's fucking it, the durability one is actually legit and we'll just have to wait for stronger glass

[@franciscoantonio5306]

The lack of headphone jack is killing phone experience.

[@asherperlmuter]

Watching on my phone with a headphone jack

[@harshnemesis]

watching this on my pc, my phone still has a headphone jack - which is still a virgin, because bluetooth is the future, children.

[@JustAGal217]

Yes

[@Platinum_XYZ]

on my s9+ and headphone jack too

[@harshnemesis]

@@raymakbutwithmoustache6413 Lol, you idiot I didn't like my own comment, but since you want me to, I have done so now and it has two likes, enjoy. Also it's *your learn grammar, dumbo xD

[@waterhybrid7392]

well why wouldn't you agree on your own opinion@@raymakbutwithmoustache6413

[@todanrg3]

Just how manufacturers followed Apple and sealed batteries, now they doing this. So now you have to buy an expensive Bluetooth headphone to have the same audio quality as with a $15 headphone. And have another device with battery you have to remember to charge it all the time and get annoyed when connection breaks or audio lags. And headphone battery will start to lose capacity after 1-2 years. Or if you don't want Bluetooth you need to mess with stupid dongles, fragile USB port instead of much more robust 3.5 jack. And remember to take them with you. Phones are becoming bigger and bigger and they slowly removing everything with the excuse of space saving and weather resistance. What's next? Remove USB port also and allow charging only with wireless?

[@kky.x]

Andrei Todoran That is next actually.

[@noka5730]

The things you are talking about apply to the Bluetooth earphones from a couple of years ago. Now with Bluetooth 4.2 and 5 things like that never happens. Also you have a range of at least 10 m away from your device which isn't possible while using wired ones. I have an anker soundbuds life and the battery is 24hrs of music playback. I charge it only once every 2 weeks and it only needs like 2 hrs of charge to last you this long. Technology is getting better and better but you're not realizing it since you just are afraid of change.

[@CZ-PC]

@@noka5730 That is completely untrue. Bluetooth has tons of problems. From garbage sound quality. To horrible battery lives (especially after 6 months dear god.) And bad reliability. They just aren't as good as 3.5 yet.

[@noka5730]

@@CZ-PC i have been using mine now for about 8 months and the battery life is still the same, and the sound quality is actually good. They're comparable with wired earphones not headphones since those have alot more bass etc. I also never encountered delays or connection problems whatsoever. So I don't know where you are bringing your info from. I'm also sure that they will only get better in the future, as long as more people switch to BT so manufacturers will be forced to put out the best they got.

[@miru2583]

noka5730 tell me how many hours you spend on that bluetooth earphone on a daily basis

[@alphaTrader.oo1]

RIP buddy

[@TheStigma]

Gotta say, I never saw the upside to getting rid of the audiojack. Just.... why? It's used all the time - doesn't take up a lot of space, is cheap and is compatible with anything. Now, for certain devices you have to carry an extra dongle around everythere you go? Wow.... progress? Did anyone actually ask for this or do companies just follow Apple trends even when they are hugely unpopular? I can't really forsee myself ever buying a phone or tablet without a minijack. Not unless the port goes completwly extinct for some reason. Can anyone actually provide a solid practical reason for this trend? Id be genuinely interrested to know.

[@alvallac2171]

*audio jack * everywhere *I'd *interested

[@Winnetou64]

@@alvallac2171 Dude... what the fuck? This is the KZbin comments section, not English class. Be happy when people use commas and full stops and start their sentences with capital letters, man... instead of nitpicking about every single mistake.

[@TheStigma]

@@alvallac2171 You must have a lot of free time on your hands...

[@miru2583]

because apple has big influences in mobile industry. so you have shit Chinese smarphone company start to do the same, copying the good n shit with all the apple product. these company isn't as big as samsung so they just chicken out to take the risk. oh and also because money. dongles n expensive Bluetooth devices

[@NoobSenseiOfficial]

Upside is profits thats all

[@DenisDamulira23]

The very reason i left apple

[@TCPUDPATM]

Apple doesn’t have this issue...

[@Probonoman]

@@TCPUDPATM right?? lmao

[@thechillmaster5836]

@@TCPUDPATM the point he's trying to make is Apple was dumb for removing the jack and going with dongles

[@rrsharizam]

@@TCPUDPATM It's not about headphone jack in particular. It's about Apple's attitude in general: which is arrogance

[@lucasrem]

Deejay Core Left apple? what did you do????????left them muhawhahahaha? Nokia 3310 now? to do what?

[@llSlpkntll]

Well said. Just got my note 20 ultra and I hate that I have to use an adapter to plug in 3.5mm jack into. I know some will say just use Bluetooth but the sound quality is not as powerful when connected to a car. I've tested it and the sound is richer and deeper plugged in 3.5mm

[@TNM001]

i honestly hate this dongle life. i refuse it, fight it...we gained nothing by switching. i have 1 device (convertible) that uses usb-c, and i use an external monitor for it. i gained nothing, i lost a usb slot. -.- its just BS. it's a marketing gag that ppl followed...is one for the history books. -> keep on ranting Gordon...we feel you ;)

[@chetlyp]

great commentary. i honestly had no idea there was a difference between dongles and I'm the biggest phone nerd in the tri-state area, lol. if gordon did all PCWorld videos, this would be my favorite channel.

[@peacekkqmark]

Do you own good analog headphones?

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Why do they have to make something that was easy so complicated. Why not simply buy a pair of random headphones and plug them in? No, now we need a dongle with a DAC and special headphones. It actually goes both ways: Those who already own good headphones they care for need additional stuff and thosee who buy the cheapos and throw them away after a year when the cable rips have to do the same.

[@chetlyp]

@@peacekkqmark I don't know I they're the greatest, but I have a pair of Shure se846s that I've used for the last 3 years.

[@chetlyp]

@@HappyBeezerStudios not just a dongle but now you have to know to differentiate a digital with an analog one. Wtf?!

[@TechInspected]

Well if this video doesn't make you guys deserve more subs then I don't know what video would. Subbed!

[@jrod8574]

And that is exactly why Samsung and LG are still the Kings. period.

[@nicoweako8899]

And OnePlus

[@CrazedTeenz]

Warrior 000 and your father

[@zamundaaa776]

@@nicoweako8899 not anymore. They bashed apple for removing the jack in I think their 1+ 6 advertisements and now the plan for the 6T is to remove it themselves...

[@6stringssamurai]

Like Apple that mocked everyone for making large phones. Look at them now, clowns.

[@Dragorpion777]

@BTICronox Exactly the reason I run the V30. Best phone.

[@NewZonaRides]

This is the biggest reason I no longer have an iPhone. I waited until they announced the new phone. Hoping and praying one would have the 3.5mm jack back and nope. That's when I bought a Note 9 and I have to admit I am loving it. Thanks Apple for helping finally jump ship.

[@jackyingoff6614]

Y would apple just suddenly add back the jack?

[@miliyn17]

NewZona Rides what’s so nice about the jack? Apple gives you headphones with a lightening jack. I’ve never had a moment where I wish I had the jack back since I got the new iPhone

[@Sembazuru]

And the Note 9 proves that you can have immersion resistance and a 3.5mm jack.

[@lmfao7224]

I bet you in the next 2 years a Samsung phone won’t have a headphone jack

[@tylerlock5888]

​@@lmfao7224 that aged well

[@CallMeNumber8]

Please another episode! Let's keep this topic ALIVE. NO HEADPHONE JACK NO SALE!!!

[@harshnemesis]

Phones without jack are selling just fine, you're living in the past.

[@harshnemesis]

@@CallMeNumber8 Dude you're a conspiracy theorist, no wireless electronics were proven to harm our body in fact it was proven the exact opposite. Btw electricity does radiate too and your outdated wired headphones are powered by that, so I think you need to stop using these and stop using a smartphone and go live in a basement wrapped in tinfoil.

[@justinnaramor6050]

@@harshnemesis I think you need to stop being a fucking idiot and insulting people for using the technology they prefer. This whole "you're living in the past" statement is, in fact, downright mean and very disrespectful. No wonder why no one agrees with your foolish comments!

[@VigneshBalasubramaniam]

We need the headphone jack... The DACs in phones were just fine, and I'm pretty sure those DACs are better than the ones you'll get in some cheap digital USB-C audio adapter. I don't plan on getting any phone without a heaphone jack. I've got a Moto G4 Plus at the moment, and whenever I upgrade, I plan on getting whatever OnePlus is out at the moment. Hopefully OnePlus keeps the headphone jack.

[@nocturnal101ravenous6]

Agreed to an extent, Phone audio was hideous and was an absolute trash solution next to actually having a DAP with a high quality AMP/DAC, I mean we pay around a grand for smartphones but when I show people an Astell&Kerns they loose their mind over the prices. Apple Products are simply overpriced and iTunes was always the laughing stock of quality music, so much so even the engineer that designed it came out and said how embarrassed he was and how it set back the industry a decade at minimum compared to other players at the time on the market. The only reason people use phones as a music player is out of conv. not because of quality also the SNR and background noise/static is disgraceful on phones. I have only ever seen and heard a few phones that had decent audio, Razer phone, Moto X pure are 2 of them, and most enthusiasts use an AMP/DAC with a phone just to try and make it better with a set of Grado/Sennheiser/or other high end audio cans. The only reason Beats became famous was because the more expensive versions had a DAC/AMP built into the headphones in order to make the Itune audio sound more fuller, the drawback was they were profiled for Bass heavy modern music which drowns out mids excessively.

[@FakeGordonMahUng]

The thing is: Having an external USB DAC over USB-C will work on all phones. They're standard USB Audio Devices which is why they work on laptops too. Putting a jack on the phone doesn't mean you can't use an external DAC. The P20 Pro does it just fine, as does the Sony (they do the auto switch for you.)

[@Phynix72]

@@FakeGordonMahUng Take a note those digital dongles are *filters* with audio signal converter ICs for the coil present in headphones. And here comes a aspect that makes this matter more shitty. They do filter USB power & data stream interference. The audio signal is bad than 3.5 mm output. Find a phone that have both 3.5mm jack & usb audio, chop the wire of a headphone, connect it to a digital multimeter that can log data, now play White Noise, Pink noise, logarithmic Sine & Arithmetic Sine

[@FakeGordonMahUng]

@@Phynix72 isn't this determined by the external dac and Amp as well though?

[@Phynix72]

@@FakeGordonMahUng Yup... But what I'm saying not ever user carry external dac or amp, especially if someone is moving or doing things. Slapping experiments like these on consumers are worsening experience of having a better device. We pay for technology to have convenience, not to make simple things into crappy one.

[@coolciaran69]

Just put 3.5mm jack's back on everything. Theres no genuine reason why they should be omitted from phones. If a phone like the Vivo nex s can fit one in I'm pretty sure most other phones can. If they start removing them from laptops too I'll be beyond pissed as that's just going too far.

[@lucasrem]

Ciarán Jones why you need old 1970 gear, for what use???? museum guy????

[@ezra-keto]

@@lucasrem So what if the port is old? It works fine and dandy for its purpose! You can even use accessories with a headphone jack (like square card reader) and still have a usable charging port.

[@hoen2009]

@@lucasrem yeah i am going to walk with a shitty dongle everywhere, or have shitty audio quality with Bluetooth.

[@todanrg3]

Lucas: What an idiotic comment. Keep then using stupid dongles and fragile USB ports. Just don't forget to take your dongle every time with you.

[@m4xwellmurd3r]

God you drive a car with RUBBER tires? You heathen. Don't you know rubber tires are OVER 100 YEARS OLD???? Get with the times!

[@MobileDecay]

What's also stupid is that the only people concerned with removing the jack are phone manufacturers. Every other type of device comes with a headphone jack! So basically their is still a need for 3.5mm headphone. I cannot even go down the street and buy usb c headphones! I would need to buy 3.5mm headphones and a dongle that may or may not fuckin work! 😡

[@ahareally]

USB-C audio is *mainly* about a) making the ONE (essential) port fail faster and b) selling dongles. It's so obvious.

[@The98xander]

This Video really makes me appreciate my note 9 a lot more

[@astrnmcflth]

Another reason to stick with budget phones

[@harshnemesis]

these budget phones will get rid of that stupid hole as well in the near future. Bluetooth is the future, children.

[@realcartoongirl]

but budget phones usually have really bad notches cutout and they use lcd which causes weird backlighting around the notch, making things worse. What budget phone in 2019 doesn't have a notch

[@riyuiwashere]

@@harshnemesis bluetooth is shit lol

[@ad_404.]

@@harshnemesis Bluetooth is the future? A fucking 90s shitty ass technology that doesn't work right even in 2020?

[@PaulBenjamin]

But a headphone jack makes my phone fat and ugly. A dongle hanging off the phone is prettier.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Hahaha lol thats really stupid and doesn't make sense I like the way Samsung kept the headphone jack screw the other phone makers

[@stevenbmeza]

@@carholic-sz3qv I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm bro....

[@vicdez]

Lol. Good one

[@azizwafa]

While Samsung gives u headphones jack and s pen

[@David-Zita]

I am using blackberry dtek50 smartphone which is 7.3mm thick, with a 3.5mm headphone jack what's your point? Manufacturing companies can even drop to 5mm thickness with a headphone jack. Your point doesn't hold water

[@devilorchard]

>spend $3 for earphone. >spen $9 for dongle.

[@secretlycanine]

maybe don't use headphones for $3

[@harshnemesis]

Cheap ass people lmao

[@rynne7153]

Dark I'm sorry for being ass poor

[@derLenno]

> spend a thousand bucks on a Pixel > cry because the dongle is 9 bucks

[@harshnemesis]

Fossillized rex then maybe buying a flagship phone shouldn't be your priority, lmao peasant.

[@oeaoo]

Don't hijack my headphone jack!

[@harshnemesis]

Get with the times, or get left behind. Headphone jacks are so 2005

[@kadrix732]

@@harshnemesis Stfu, and go cry with your type c jack. Audio quality is worse on type c and bluetooth, so there is no reason to remove the headphone jack as it still the best.

[@harshnemesis]

@@kadrix732 Bluetooth is far superior to wired audio and Lol USB-C jack, literally nobody uses that. Why would anyone buy new earbuds and make them wired again when there is a better option, wireless which is the future? Headphone jack is long obsolete and you're living in the past.

[@richie4633]

As technology gets more better and better, less actual drives/jacks/wires/whatever are needed. Remember CD drives? That used to be all the rage back in 1990s to early 2000s. Then the internet started to evolve. We were able to download things onto our computer at faster and faster speeds. Valve saw this as a way to innovate, and due to other underlying reasons, to create stronger DRM, and provide updates faster, Steam, the first successful digital distribution platform was released, and the rest is history. UPlay, Origin, battle.net, etc. And less people started to use CD. Granted some people still use them, to transfer legacy software, but it's mostly gone for normal consumers. What I'm trying to say is that Apple has the same idea Valve did. They saw the future and were willing to take risks, as they're known for. Sure some people complained, but normal consumers didn't care and some were happy that the headphone jack was being removed for something better. And it paid off. Sales research after Q1 2017 placed the iP7 as the best-selling smartphone in the world. TL:DR - Headphone jack are soon to meet the fate of CDs, long gone because of wireless advancements in technology, for better or for worse.

[@harshnemesis]

@@richie4633 Finally someone who understands that with time technology changes for better. Headphone jacks are so ancient.

[@vbun4662]

This would drive me up the wall. Thank you Samsung for sticking with the jack.

[@rwhoosh1122]

Velma's Booty Hey might remove the headphone jack for s10. That’s what the rumor is.

[@libertyprime69]

Time to bring back the removable battery.

[@ryutenmen]

wccftech.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-no-headphone-jack/

[@harshnemesis]

@@libertyprime69 Let's bring back the floppy drive while we are at it

[@harshnemesis]

@@ryutenmen Well duh you fucking morons, I told you long ago that samsung and the remaining companies will remove the ancient headphone jack. Didn't come with a surprise. Bluetooth is the future, children.

[@eduardoavila646]

They at least could put two usb-c ports so i can charge and hear music at the same time, damn... Looks like we came back to 2008...

[@jeetudhansinghani4239]

Oh nice idea .. 1 on the top and 1 at the bottom .. there was 1 phone which had 2 earpeices worked any way up :)

[@TsunaXZ]

So you can charge it 2x faster too lol

[@abdomar0528]

That would be a more waste of space. The USB C is bigger than a 3.5mm audio jack. Having two of USB C is worse than removing the audio jack. How about going back to 3.5mm audio jack and USB C.....

[@eduardoavila646]

Abdurrahman Siddiqi Not at all! More i/o, the possibility to use two usb devices without any hub, be able to charge and hear audio or charge and use a usb device through otg, etc. In therms of space it would use a little bit more. But that's not the usuall excuse, the usual one is that the 3.5mm jack is hard to waterproof and that this format is/needs to die, as its analogic (yeah no sense at all). The only one who used the space excuse, was apple in the iphone 7 or 8 (the first one to not have a 3.5mm jack), but the channel strangeparts proved that this was bullshit. He made himself a 3.5mm jack for his iphone. So at least they could put another usb-c in there, or keep the 3.5mm jack, as you said, it wouldnt be a bad idea.

[@eduardoavila646]

TsunaXZ Actually yes! Like the macbooks! (If the battery is prepared for that)

[@DrYouMrTube]

3 years later and it is still relevant. dongles break, people still want headphone jacks and these dumb companies are losing millions because people are refusing to buy phones with no headphone jacks. My brother after trying dongles just, forgo s21 ultra for a cheaper lg v60. Massive loses for these idiot companies with 0 common sense. Just add an extra mm or two of space. They claim, it takes too much space, Well, nobody cares if newer phone is 8mm thick or 8.5mm. Literally, NOBODY. And the idiots who care, they put a case on the phone, making it thick.

[@bestmedever]

Removing the audio jack and adding a notch, that's the trend, following Apple... All props to Samsung ♥

[@Phrancis5]

Still love my LG-V20 with headphone jack and quad-DAC! IR blaster and removable battery too.

[@moover123]

It's simple. don't buy a phone with no audio jack

[@macomputersuck]

That keeps getting harder as time goes on

[@brbix4005]

Simple, shortened for 2019: Buy LG...

[@Qorelin]

Samsung still has headphone jacks on flagships. Not sure about the other models, since they have a ton of em.

[@moover123]

It's actually not hard, there are a lot of phones with usb c and an audio jack: Nokia 8, Samsung Galaxy S8, Samsung Galaxy S9, Samsung Galaxy Note 9, Samsung Galaxy S9+, Google Pixel, OnePlus 6, BlackBerry KEY2, Nokia 6.1, Samsung Galaxy A8, Huawei P20 Lite, Samsung Galaxy A3, Nokia 7 Plus, Honor View 10, Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact, LG G7, Samsung Galaxy A5, Motorola G6 Plus, Motorola G6... and the list goes on. I'm sure everyone will find something in that variety.

[@Bobzilla206]

You might complain about USB C headphones however, if you have a gamers headset with "true" 7.1 surround USB C is a way to go for true audiophiles. Especially if you are using a Android app called Neutron Music Player that specializes in DAC controllers. If you like downmixed stereo quality go for those 3.5 jack for only hearing 2/3 of the music you would be missing. The only other piece of hardware you would need is a OTG cable.

[@RayMak]

Extremely true! Thank you so much for making this video

[@ArchisMarathe]

You can't be here too

[@FUNNYTIKTOK789]

@@ArchisMarathe as soon as i saw his comment i was like HOW?!?!? Hahahah

[@catcute1094]

OK I SEE U EVERYWHERE IN MANY VIDEOS BUT THIS ONE? LOL

[@ArchisMarathe]

@@FUNNYTIKTOK789 hmm is that you in three profile pic? No homo but you look nice

[@FUNNYTIKTOK789]

@@ArchisMarathe aye bro no worries yeah that’s me, appreciate it! I just have long hair now 😂 and is that your doggo in profilepic?

[@rurutuM]

DAMN U APPLE

[@binarypower]

Motorola did it first. Also, remove all the holes from phones. I want a 100% waterproof phone. Wireless charging, bluetooth, wifi.... done.

[@thechillmaster5836]

@@binarypower umm aren't phones waterproof enough while having literally all those features? Samsung phones do it

[@lucasrem]

rurutu M PLUGWALK? old guy, needing wires?

[@alponselrik]

@@lucasrem edgy kid? Mommy's money?

[@Raja995mh33]

+binarypower Doesn't matter. Companies are copying Apple, not Motorla. If Apple kept the headphone jack, no one else would have removed it in 2017. And to be correct: Samsung released a waterproofed phone with headphone jack and even a removable battery, it's called Galaxy S5. In 2014. three yeare before Apple introduced IP67 on the iPhones. the headphone jack is extremely easy to make waterproof. USB-C, speakers etc. are way more complicated.

[@MartellThaCool]

Samsung sold out to join to get rid of the headphone jack.

[@karkrash81]

This is a frustrating issue. Especially if you want to charge and listen and your phone only has a USB C port. Bluetooth is getting better but still has video problems. Hopefully Samsung, OnePlus, and LG keep the 3.5mm for a long time.

[@nickah1]

William Flanigan sadly, Oneplus is removing the headphone jack on their upcoming Oneplus 6T.

[@karkrash81]

Nicolas Hoffman I saw that. I'm conflicted because I'm using the OnePlus bullets wireless 90% of the time now. The rest of the phone better be damn impressive to make up for it.

[@nickah1]

William Flanigan I’m right there with you. How are the bullet headphones?

[@karkrash81]

They're super. They connect with no problems (just separating the ear buds turns them on) and sound pretty good. I use them about 2-3 hours a day. 6 hours is about what I get for battery life and they use USB C so that's handy. I bought two pairs so I don't have to worry about charging all the time.

[@crashniels]

if you are going to remove the 3.5mm jack, at least compensate with a second type c port.

[@thewolfin]

I say don't fucking compromise, if the company won't listen to consumers then fuck them and don't buy.

[@miliyn17]

Wolfin If companies only listened to what consumers wanted then we would still probably all have flip phones

[@crashniels]

Wolfin well contracts exist where you get to choose a new phone every x years. and if all the phones there dont have a jack you are rip.

[@flybackdiode9580]

What's next? Removing the charging port too with only wireless charging as an option

[@noodolski501]

The whole reason is money. It’s easy to lose a dongle, usb c is proprietary so the company takes a bigger cut of the profit from it. They claim it’s for waterproofing but LG and Samsung have them they’re IP68... I can’t think of any reason more compelling than money.

[@Hjtrne]

Waterproofing is a BS reason. Only the copper leads need to exposed to the outside world - and they aren't water permeable.

[@richie12200]

Apple is doing wrong, and the fans is so blind to flow those wrong way.

[@jukijunk]

Not just apple, a lot of other companies are following the same route too, it's so retarded.

[@lucasrem]

Yu Shiuan Zhuang What is apple doing wrong? you need some old big phone, needing Plug walk gear? Pinocchio guy? What Phone u use now, what is it you need to see on it that you need a new one? 16" Record player?

[@the0000alex0000]

but using those dongles don't cause audio problem with iphones. it's just android makers are all retards but android fans have no brains and keep buying androids

[@handytjoa]

For those who blame apple, please realize that iphone never has that issue. Iphone uses lightning adapter made by apple. So unlike usb-c, if you borrow someone’s lightning dongle you are 100% sure it is gonna work. Android is too fragmented...yet instead of admitting it, you blame apple.

[@thatoneguy2274]

+Trey a surprising amount of ppl. not having to charge even more devices is pretty nice when you already have to remember to charge 2 laptops, 2 phones, a tablet and a portable audio interface. not to mention good luck finding ANY audio equipment past "average joe" grade with wireless capabilities. as someone that works with audio the 3.5mm jack is an absolute must for me and a lot of others. not to mention practically universal compatibility, lower latency and simplicity. wired audio outputs are so simple you can wire them by hand. meanwhile if you need to do anything to a set of wireless headphones youll have to take them to a repair shop

[@Lanadra]

I don't get it. I shouldn't need a dongle to use my headphones when the headphone jack simply lets me use said headphones without that extra piece of trash accessory. What do companies not understand about that? Forcing consumers to jump through extra hoops for the same result as before is not progress. Especially not if the only reason for doing so is to remove a perfectly fine working headphone jack.. for the sake of removing it.

[@Pocket-Calculator]

That's because USB-c doesn't require a DAC to be included. Some OEMs add it to the phone, some others don't and expect the dongle to have one. The 3.5 mm jack works everywhere as expected. This is just another thing in a long list of preferring form over function: removable batteries, SD Card slot, camera modules that don't protrude from the back of the phone, physical keyboards, etc.

[@MinecraftMasterNo1]

I think you're lumping in a bit much there, I love the jack but "removable batteries" that would mean sacrificing water-resistance, which isn't something you need everyday but when you do, you'll definitely wish you had it "SD Card slot" I dunno, unless you're a power user I don't think there's a huge need to go beyond the already pretty huge default capacities. I'm still on my 64GB 6S Plus without any issue. "physical keyboards" it's somewhat a preference thing but again, the key board isn't something a layperson would use extensively. Would you rather have more screen real estate with a negligibly slower keyboard or a physical one and a much smaller screen? Most people don't exactly zealously jump on the latter

[@Pocket-Calculator]

@@MinecraftMasterNo1 Removable batteries are a must. It isn't likely that your phone will get damaged by water, but the battery will ALWAYS fail. Specially with quick charging and wireless charging. It's possible to make a water-resistant phone with a removable battery, Samsung did one. The only reason to remove batteries is to cut production costs and force users to buy a new phone in two years tops. As for physical keyboards, the benefits are huge. More accuracy, faster typing and less autocorrect duckery. Typing with langaguaes other than English, typing addresses, using technical terms or foreign names is a pain with virtual keyboards. Yes, it may lose some screen space (which, by the way shouldn't be a peoblem since phones are ridiculously big now anyway) but then again I want a pocket computer, not a media player. As for the MicrSD card slot, there was no reason to remove it. That was a standard feature removed just because.

[@MinecraftMasterNo1]

Abel "langaguaes other than English" Can you not type in other languages with a taptic keyboard? What world are you living in? "using technical terms or foreign names is a pain" Apparently not a pain for the foreigners themselves. Otherwise smartphones wouldn't have become a global phenomenon. So yeah, I don't see your point. " I want a pocket computer" What *you* want isn't what someone else wants. That's just a reality you have to deal with. Most people don't really go ham on the productivity features or even use it at all. "no reason to remove it" It cost some money, maybe not a lot but some, to include it. Only a fraction of the market even uses it. Seriously, the average person will barely scrape the internal storage of a modern device. SD cards are definitely a prosumer feature and as you can tell, not everyone is a prosumer

[@Pocket-Calculator]

@@MinecraftMasterNo1 You can use a virtual keyboard in any language. It's just shit. Having to long tap on a letter to get the modified version(s) of said letter is shit. Having your verbs changed to the wrong conjugation (because autocorrect can't handle more than 3 apparently) is shit. To have a person's or street's name changed entirely is shit. Copying and pasting text is dogshit. And yes, what I want is not how the market is going. The market doesn't want any important improvements, just a marginally better camera and a "stylish" and "premium" device. Again, looks over function. Just look at Google's apps: they have less features than the 2009 BlackBerries had, they waste a ton of resources and collect personal information unnecessarily, but they have a "nice" flat design. Garbage.

[@MinecraftMasterNo1]

Abel "because autocorrect" who tf complains about an optional feature? turn the damn thing off if you're so inclined "Copying and pasting text" You don't have a dedicated mouse on smartphones. Deal with it or just get one of those pocket laptops or something. "over function" Honestly, any modern device will probably serve the average joe just fine. What people want nowadays are something on top of that utility. They want their phones to also be personal statements about their personality or fashion sense and stuffs. Having an Iphone and having a Pocophone make completely different impressions. "they have less features" But the UI is way less clustered and much more usable. It's the Android vs iOS debate again. Advanced vs minimalist. Also, data collection is just something you just have to know you're getting into when you buy products from analytics company. After all, Google's main revenue is from processing your info so they can pump you all the ads. If you don't like it then don't buy their stuffs.

[@andraslibal]

The "beauty" of USB-C is that the form factor is the same but can have very different specifications for each dongle and manufacturer and you have no idea which works and which does not. And this is just audio ... imagine video ... data transfer ... charging ... dongle combinations for all these ...

[@TrioLOLGamers]

The problem is that it's indicated as an adapter (Apple started this and nowadays says only that it's an adapter with no specs): A DAC isn't an adapter. That's the point. The USB-C is not the point, but the manufacturer. If there are DVI-D DVI-A and DVI-I, why there isn't a USB-CA or USB-CD?? Because people doesn't wants complicated things… But when they have problems, they are ready to spend more and more.

[@MIKO-WHY]

I can confirm Apple USB C adapter do Minijack works perfectly with HTC, and Google Pixel.

[@AnthonyCua]

I honestly thought this was just gonna be some shallow clickbait video. It turned out to be quite informative. Good job Gordon and PCWorld!

[@nerdyneedsalife8315]

Yeah, as much as I hate the riddance of the headphone jack, I thought he would complain about something we all knew. However I didn't know that some phones support only digital audio through USB C.

[@fersunk]

Samsung Galaxy: No notch Headphone jack I don't know you but for me that's a win