USB-C iPhone Confirmed and YouTube's Redesign!

This week, Marques and Andrew talk about Apple being forced by the EU to put USB-C on its products. Then they recap some of the topics that Marques missed out on last week including the new iPads and the Nothing earbuds before getting into the new KZbin redesign. Finally, Marques talks about some EV Rolls-Royce news that caught his eye before we wrap up the trivia questions. It's a classic Waveform episode!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:35 USB-C iPhone confirmed
15:50 Marques weighs in on the new iPad
20:49 Nothing ear(stick) released
22:47 Taylor Swift breaks Spotify record
26:38 Trivia question 1
27:59 Ads
28:03 KZbin Redesign
46:06 Trivia question 2
46:54 Ads
46:57 EV Rolls-Royce
54:18 Trivia answers
57:20 Outro
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[@turbonx]

KZbin removing "sort by oldest" when browsing channels is the single biggest nerf I've experienced in how I use the site. I'm not sure how it can get much worse at this point except for making old videos by creators completely inaccessible.

[@ebuke]

This is so depressing. I use that feature all the time to just see how creators have grown, and how far they have come.

[@Jst4vdeos]

Musi app on iOS let’s you add playlists and sort them anyway you like

[@triniplayer6172]

@@Jst4vdeos who asked

[@jumbomuffin1316]

@@triniplayer6172 your mom

[@randomgrapesoda]

@@triniplayer6172 They implicitly asked for an answer, don't be rude

[@juan_urbina]

Marques: “no one watches in 4K” Also Marques: *records in 16k*

[@gucci_flip_flops]

That's actually hilarious lmao

[@peachierose3356]

I think it might be for editing purposes

[@peachierose3356]

Recording in a higher resolution means that you can zoom into a part and not have it look crap

[@peachierose3356]

I don’t know a lot but that’s one of the uses

[@dewrules235]

Also puts out 4k videos but “nobody watches in 4k” 🙄

[@MM-dw4ew]

Andrew outing himself as a Swiftie is my favorite part of this episode period

[@nadine624]

same 😭

[@AllTheArtsy]

yeah i was surprised how he just pulled the Lover trivia like that

[@jesuspablomiros4715]

omg never listened to this podcast bc apple products I'M JUST SEEING HIM BEING A SWIFTIEEE

[@SrinathRamkumar]

Andrew and the Haas F1 t-shirt is low-key the coolest part of the video version of the podcast.

[@tonypadilla9136]

I'm a red bull fan myself, but that's awesome

[@cdw2468]

im a mclaren guy but can respect the haas support

[@Hydesy]

😂 I loved the 15 mins of Marques and Andrew forgetting they were on a podcast and spiraling into their train of thought. Literally the only two people I watch online who I've started to feel like I'm "hanging" out with.

[@monishn15]

And calling premium as premier

[@joshentertainment2]

They to cool tech nerd frisbee bros

[@mmikee407]

@@monishn15 No they mean premier feature on KZbin which is live broadcasting a pre recorded videos. That’s different from KZbin premium subscription. They know their stuff.

[@tonypadilla9136]

Timestamp?

[@princehoy3343]

E rx4d4d

[@stitchdxpaige3874]

Andrew's love for Taylor Swift is so wholesome

[@1TPhotos]

Just stumbled across this video and I was intrigued. Great content!

[@brandonl9286]

I love that Ellis includes difficult, off the wall, trivia questions. It makes us all have to think more.

[@m.f.3347]

I actually think that USB-C's development was driven by the initial EU 2009 directive suggesting a common charger. The USB-IF saw that there needed to be one cable to do it all, and they delivered. How long it will remain the top dog is yet to be seen, but given that the connector supports up to 40Gbps and 240W charging, I don't think we're gonna need something new for quite a while. And considering the timeline of this common charger law (initially proposed in 2009, extended to 2014, then finalised in 2020), we can expect to have the standards revised evey 5-7 years. They could come up with a better connector by 2030, but seeing as we still use USB-A for so many devices, I have my doubts. Also, does nobody remember the 2015 Macbook? Apple jumped on the USB-C wagon before almost anyone else, leaving all their previous customers invested in other systems out to dry. They will gladly turn on a dime and pull the rug from under their customers, they're just mad that they're getting the same treatment from the EU.

[@ikjadoon]

You're exactly right. Andrew was spot-on that the EU has an almost yearly review requirement; Marques perhaps can double-check the bill's wording. The EU will revisit this mandate again in 2024, 2025, 2028, 2029, 2034, n+3 / n+5 years, etc. That's way more than enough time for 1) a new connector to replace USB type-C and 2) gain enough market interest and 3) ship in enough test markets (e.g., those not under this mandate). Page 17 >The Commission shall continuously assess market developments, market fragmentation and technical progress with the view to identify categories or classes of radio equipment capable of being recharged via wired charging for which the inclusion in Part I of Annex Ia would lead to significant consumer convenience and reduction of environmental waste. The Commission shall report such assessment to the European Parliament and to the Council, for the first time by [3 years after the date of entry-into-force of this Directive] and every 5 years thereafter, and adopt delegated acts pursuant to Article 3, paragraph 4, first subparagraph, point a) accordingly. >-the Commission to review the operation of the Directive and report thereon 2 years after the date of applicability of the Directive and every five years thereafter; and >-the Member States to send to the Commission a report on its application one year after the date of applicability of the Directive and every two years thereafter.

[@prgnify]

Just to add something I remember being discussed while the 2008 drafts were coming along: When USB micro-b was suggested and pushed forward they were able to 'prove' they had superior technology, especially because lightning was reversible while USB micro-b isn't. That was absolutely part of what led the development of USB spec, specifically the reversible part. Now if they somehow introduce some 'new lightning' that has some other feature that USB-C doesn't have and provides everything USB-C does (host+client, data speed, power limits, various protocols), they CAN even skip USB-C and just introduce their own new standard.

[@prgnify]

And most tech youtubers seem to not have read the provision - which is fine, but then they speculate on things that are material and provable. For example, a completely portless iphone WOULD BE in compliance, 100%.

[@Rea13434O]

Exactly, I doubt lightning or usb-c wouldn't have been created because of government standardization. Especially not when multibillion dollar companies are backing their technology. Prove your tech is better and the markets and law should follow. Lightning is less capable than usb-c that's all there is to it🤷🏾‍♀. Sometimes the engineers and "really smart people" have conflicts of interests and make decisions that aren't the most innovative or consumer positive.

[@DrClaw77]

Big facts!

[@tielessin]

As far as I remember, the EU DOES NOT just say that everyone has to use USB-C for ever, but that companies have to follow the USB Implementers Forum's standard. Following such standards has been normal in software for decades and I have never heard someone make the argument of "stopping innovation". It's weird that this argument only comes up when someone is afraid of missing out on money for doing nothing 🤔

[@mimartexplores]

you remembered wrong

[@sachafievet3131]

Yeah, Apple is talking pure crap in this. This is is truly not anti innovation, it is pro consumer/environment and honestly even innovation since now different companies will want to upgrade and advance usb to meet their goals

[@wanderingturtle1705]

I agree. The EU has the responsibility to ensure that they don't inhibit the engineering process. With that said Apple have not modernized their lightning port in quite some time and I doubt people will take any issue with saying it's inferior to USB-C at this point. Regulation is needed and the EU will need to be careful about how and where they choose to implement the legislation, I think the general public can look at our modern tech landscape and see that leaving these things in the hands of companies where the only motive is profit has failed to deliver what is in the best interest of the general consumer and the environment.

[@ieronymos9265]

Oh, please! Since when has the EU ever innovated anything, anyway? Really? Straight up stupid Eurotalk.

[@ikjadoon]

​@@mimartexplores Nope, EU is not "forever mandating USB-C". In fact, the EU is mandating a REVIEW of the policy every 3-5 years. Page 17 of the passed bill: >The Commission shall continuously assess market developments, market fragmentation and technical progress with the view to identify categories or classes of radio equipment capable of being recharged via wired charging for which the inclusion in Part I of Annex Ia would lead to significant consumer convenience and reduction of environmental waste. The Commission shall report such assessment to the European Parliament and to the Council, for the first time by [3 years after the date of entry-into-force of this Directive] and every 5 years thereafter, and adopt delegated acts pursuant to Article 3, paragraph 4, first subparagraph, point a) accordingly.

[@Icingdeath786]

Love your video podcasts! Keep getting better with time. The iPad lineup seems to be getting more confusing and complicated for no apparent reason. An M2 IPad Pro seems overkill!!! Don’t want to get started on the new ipad… Producers should DEFINITELY come on camera as well :)

[@courtneykeeps]

I vote for the trivia cam to pop up where the logo is temporarily during trivia. Great episode 😅

[@Shirley36]

Agreed!

[@futur3sn0w]

Guys, Marques, Andrew, PLEASE add a producer cam 😂😂😂 This is the last show that doesn’t have one! Even LINUS HAS A PRODUCER CAM! 🤣

[@AV.Creative]

they gotta beat linus 😂

[@raduflp]

Yes please

[@muw]

Haha yes

[@anamat050]

Loved the episode, especially the appreciation of Taylor. About your question Andrew at 42:10, I use a 2015 MacBook pro that obviously does not have a 4k screen and when I use safari, youtube only allows me to go up to 1080p but when I use chrome or firefox it enables me to go up to 4k. So I would say it has to do with the browser you're using, which is weird given it is the same website. Also, I never choose 4k because 1) 1080p is already good enough for my eyesight (given I only use either the phone or PC to watch youtube) and 2) my internet speed is not that high and thus the video stops to load a lot.

[@Tetrathegod]

Well people who live in EU don’t have this problem

[@miguelguthridge]

My guess is that Safari is often outdated in terms of web standards

[@HardyOh]

OMG YES Producer Cam please! Edit: Andrew send it! Edit2: wish I can see the thousands of other users watching this podcast live and interact with you guys.

[@urielsanchezgalindo1892]

I was watching it on 4K TV, and actually started watching you guys because of the quality of your videos, i try to use at peak what i have, in this case using a Samsung NeoQLED, also came here from Marques channel in a playlist or something to this one which i watch for the same reason haha, quality

[@m4linkstech]

I use apple products across my activities and I can attest to the fact that the presence of a common charging system is more logical and wise for consumers. It sometimes weird to have different chargers around.

[@yeejay6396]

@@cmmartti Ah just like Brex-it.

[@yeejay6396]

@@vp5429 USB C - USB C is still a bit of a rarity. I still find it odd that the cables doecome with a USB-A to USB - C adapters. Also, I'm not sure what region of the world you're in, or what you mean by "older" family members when talking about USB-C. But the cable type has been around for close to 10 years now... So unless they still use older devices with different cable types, and use other/other type of adapters and accessories, expose to the cable type is not as rare as you'd think, so they've probably seen it and didn't even know what it was (like how Apple calls their version of Type C on Mac devices as "Thunderbolt" (Thunderbolt) simply being a moniker for high bandwidth Type C cable communication)

[@moviemikerod]

Even though I don’t have 4K resolution on my screen, I still put the setting at 4K as long as it’s allowable, because I do notice the ever so slightest bump up and quality, which is also what I think Linus mentioned in his video. The rate is improved in there, for the quality is improved. I always watch at highest if not at the very least second highest quality if I can manage it regardless of if I’m on Wi-Fi or cellular.

[@chef2303]

What phone do you have? Or do you mean your computer screen? Just being curious, no judging.

[@jsteezus]

Its because at 4k you are getting a higher bitrate thus less compression artifacts and less blocking’s.

[@moviemikerod]

@@chef2303 I am currently an iPhone 14 Pro Max I have an iPad Pro 5 generation 12.9in, 65 inch 4K OLED TV as well. Most of these devices are not 4k, but I always choose highest possible.

[@Platinum199]

@@moviemikerod iphone has 4k

[@purplecheezea835]

@@Platinum199 1290 x 2796 pixels is not quite 4k

[@lagelinnarsson1347]

FWIW it is written into the directive that it will be revised at specific intervals by the Commission. They will reevaluate which device categories are included, as well as which standard specification is to be used. So, USB-C hasn't been made mandatory forever, it's just that whatever replaces it will need to be flexible and non-proprietary such that the entire industry can adopt it. I guess that does limit innovation for individual companies making their own charger ports, but that sounds like a good thing. Had this exact directive been issued for Micro-USB in 2009, I don't think we would still be stuck using that standard.

[@chasingdogs]

Ok, just to put it out there... on a 4K monitor, watching in 4k. Always 4K. Also, a premium user. I watch waveform religiously. Love when David is the third leg, honestly. He is a very good educator, IMO. Great job guys. I wait for the video all the time.

[@joshhitech]

Another great podcast episode as always!

[@jaughnekow]

They don't disappoint.

[@programmier]

Apple`s fight with type-c has nothing to do with competition and innovation! They have had 10 years with this cable and connector and they never changed it...while USB is constantly improving! Let`s focus on one universal connector/charger that saves everyone money + more environmental benefits. Imagine if the RJ-45 (Ethernet cable port) was not a standard and everyone had their own version...However, apple likes the cut from the certifications they hand out to products made for iphone even though they have changed almost every other product with type-c.

[@AbovetheLoft]

I watch most KZbin on 1080p and 1440p screens, but on larger displays a 1080p KZbin stream is incredibly pixelated in terms of bitrate. I always choose a step higher in "KZbin resolution" than my screen so that it actually looks like the screen's display res

[@austencourpet]

great podcast! Watching this on my 4k monitor. (hooked up to my 1080p predator laptop).

[@ethanc94]

Nice haas f1 shirt! Drive to survive on Netflix really did bring it to the American market.

[@jordancassidy03]

LOL Andrew said “Bad Baby” and meant “Bad Bunny” 😂

[@Manganellia1]

Ellis pointed that out to me the day after, I'm very embarrassed!

[@imchrissheldon]

i’m in thrift store, went to the selector, chose 4K out of spite and watched the last half of the podcast while i kept shopping 😂

[@robin6150]

In my opinion it's very important that the USB over thunderbolt protocol witch use the type c connect can improve over time without changing the connector

[@DE0BIZONE]

as both a tech nerd and a k-pop nerd, i very much enjoyed the spiral where my two interests combined for 5 minutes hahah (also IQIYI is a chinese video site not a k-pop group lol but i appreciated andrew covering his ass on that one either way)

[@Samxie90]

YES!!!!! We absolutely need a producer cam. Let's do it.

[@cammac57]

Definitely relate to the comment about watching (but just listening to) Philip DeFranco in the car. I do the same thing on my way home from work! And exclusively with his videos!

[@KidMonkii]

I love the transition to the Rolls Royce considering how much Marques wanted to talk about it 😂

[@King_Jab]

Love that Andrew is a swifty

[@palmereap56]

I just popped in from the podcast on apple podcast app to say I watch most of my videos in 4k because I watch almost all the KZbin I consume on my big 4K TV. And of course on a big TV 4K makes a big difference in quality. So over the last few years I've been really happy as more and more content has been in 4K cause it makes a big difference to my enjoyable watching experience. Once you do 4K it's hard to go back lol 🤣

[@lllleeeeiiii]

actually I finally got into ytb premium because it's so hard to block ads on TVs 🤣

[@roychang723]

and btw definitely needed a producer cam. FOR SUREEE

[@aaronharvey6406]

Great video guys and yes you need a producer cam.

[@jojibronner8280]

I think government regulations and standardization for ports is good. We all use the same 120V outlets in the US and it is great to not think about getting adapters for plugging in electronics. Computers in the late 2000s all had USB-A so you didn't have to worry about flash drives not working. It seems like USB-C will be here for a while and they've made some improvements with speed while having the same connector. 80Gbps is more than enough for most people and it's going to be a while until the speed isn't enough.

[@ILoveGrilledCheese]

Right, but we don’t use those outlets in Europe. So there’s not a standard at all

[@Yaxoi]

@@ILoveGrilledCheese Depends on your frame of reference. We have a different standard in the EU, but the EU plugs are standardized for the entirety of the EU (Europlug). Considering that the vast majority of Europeans rarely leaves the continent, it's basically universal for most of us

[@Yaxoi]

@Joji Bronner agreed. Also as far as I know only the formfactor and backwards compatibility with USB-C is mandated. So the actual transmission tech can still evolve

[@seanmonteith8944]

I am that one guy who’s watching your vids in 4k I also record and create content and other things in 4k and working towards creating even greater vids and photos at higher resolutions. It’s also on a fairly large 4k 120p screen and perhaps my systems sort of monitor the world, so, I would argue 4k is better for just how everything looks better. Especially with how screens on phones themselves are getting better let alone in the future, mobile projectors and even VR and AR vision screens connected an advanced eye glasses

[@PatelMuchara7]

Usually watching in 4K on tv but today was watching on a train ride (phone) and thats when we have this conversation. 😅

[@Keksmania]

Regarding Resolution: Also on mobile selecting a higher bitrate video will drain your battery faster. Since the difference between 4k and 1080p on mobile is so little the tradeoff often doesn't make sense

[@WFFLDealer]

As a web developer I want to expand on the idea of limiting the video quality depending on the screen size of the user, I think this is not the best idea to put it in the nicest way for the following reasons; 1. Getting the user's screen size from the browser isn't necessarily possible since we are only able to query the browser's size (part of how the browsers change their styling depending on how big they are, a feature called Media Queries in CSS), which means that people have to be having to fill the screen with their browser for us to detect it. If you scale it down to a lower resolution for example to split screen another program this would mean we'd be limiting the selectable quality even though your screen is in general higher resolution, just that the browser size is smaller. This will open a multitude of QoL problems like if the user does decide to splitscreen, do we automatically lower the resolution since it's not available anymore since the browser window is smaller? Or do we remove the option for the highest resolution even though he chose it? Do we keep the highest resolution he has had the browser window to just in case? 2. The detection of the user's monitor size might have adverse effects to user privacy. From what I remember during my forays on the internet one of the things hackers might use against you is knowing your monitor resolution as this may be identifying information. In the Dark Web for example it is not recommended to have your browser at full screen but at a smaller resolution. A scenario might be where this could be harmful is what if people knew that 90% of the youtube viewership had a 1080p screen? Right now you might be able to manipulate this by changing the video resolution to something that doesn't match your screen but if we know you have a 1080p screen then someone might be able to create a scam that targets the 1080p users while disregarding the "loss" of people who aren't using 1080p screens. In a similiar way what if you were the only 4K user but someone knew in which street you lived? There is a high chance that with an seemingly weird but innocent question disguised as a technological survey someone might be able to pinpoint you because they knew you have a 4K display and you might be the only one in your street. Of course this overall second point being a pretty niche and unprobable scenario.

[@TySchmidt]

I've never gone over 1440p on my phone or computer, but I ALWAYS watch 4k on my smart tv. That's where it would affect me most.

[@ekrow4066]

Another cool part of the KZbin Redesign, on channel pages Videos, Shorts, and Lives are now in separate tabs so each content type is easier to find.

[@McdoogleTV]

The minutiae of the 4K conversation has me dying 😂

[@Kniightwolff]

I watch KZbin videos like this 60% Phone: 1080p 35% PC: 2K 5% TV: 4K

[@tubefaze]

USB-C was coming when Lightning debuted. It was in developement. People say we'd still be on Micro-USB but there was not a big push to standardize Micro-USB 'cause there was already a better port in developement. Mini-USB was around longer, Mircro-USB was around much shorter inbetween Mini-USB and USB-C.

[@henryac849]

the producer cam is definitely needed

[@Thunder-vm2ug]

Andrew with the Haas shirt! I see you! You all should do a deep dive into the tech in Formula 1 cause some of it is absolutely insane

[@hassaneoutouaya]

I really like the KZbin redesign. but I think that they've inspired a little bit of styling from Spotify , I guess it's a sign for an upcoming music streaming service on KZbin. I don't know why even KZbin updates the design and adding the video zoom too. but they didn't bring back the shortcut to focus on search input(ctrl + /) as before

[@phrilly769]

There's already KZbin music?

[@joshentertainment2]

Spotify design sucks now

[@RENX5]

@@joshentertainment2 agree. Their menus are all over the place and they have way too many options, not intuitive at all.

[@questocanale]

42:57 yea, except in my case, it’s always wrong. I can’t be the only one, but my experience with the automatic quality selector is that if I don’t touch it, my yt videos start in 480p, and after a couple minutes go up to 720p, and that’s usually it. The quality goes up to 1080p only sometimes, I guess based on usage in my zone. This is SO annoying, because I’m watching form a 1080 screen with a bloody 600 Mbps connection! (Yes, I check it often, it’s stable and doesn’t fluctuate). And even when YT blesses me with 1080p, the bitrate is so low, I might as well use 480p! So my routine after opening a yt video is to always manually select 4k, and that solves all my problems, because even if my screen can’t display that, the bitrate is higher and the image prettier!

[@Hydesy]

This is going to sound so dumb buuuuut, how you link the timestamp like that? 😅

[@Hydesy]

Hmmm. Thanks for the tip. I'm also annoyed by this

[@questocanale]

@@Hydesy Not a dumb question! The answer is simple: just write a time stamp as “two digits : two digits” with spaces on both sides, and as long as it’s a valid time in the video, KZbin will do the rest! Example: 42:00 69:00

[@questocanale]

@@Hydesy If you have the same problem with the automatic quality on yt as me, I suggest using the “KZbin Enhancer” extension on your browser. It gives you a lot of quality of life improvements and granular control. In this case you can tell it to manually set your resolution for you, every time you open a video. It also has an adblocker that doesn’t effect sites other than YT, but you can disable that with a clic.

[@PAKThunder1]

I play 4K videos on my 1440p monitor, Marques is definitely right when he says you get a higher sharpness stream. Would suck if it got put behind premium but your reasoning made sense!

[@xin-yichang4533]

Hi I like the idea of the producer cam. ^^

[@venceslaumari]

I love that Andrew is a Swiftie but tries to not get TOO excited to talk about all the facts he holds in his mind.

[@maYTeus]

I forgot KZbin had a website, I was wondering where these changes are 🤣

[@Natsukashii1111]

It's on the android app too

[@james.b.mcgill]

I watch your main videos mostly at home on my Shield TV in 4K. I watched this in my phone at work at 480p.

[@uninfamous]

Producer cam! I’m surprised that The WAN Show beat you to it. Also, Marques pleading not to have people change to low quality, is hilarious. Fire episode.

[@PB83295]

I honestly expected them to just go wireless. Im pretty surprised they actually just said ok and are complying.

[@bri1085]

Cable still needed for trouble shooting if nothing else. And they'd probably be expected to carry a charging pad with every new headset

[@lenzzzzzzz]

@@bri1085 diagnostics are run wirelessly. I think they'll go port-less/magsafe

[@TjPhysicist]

the two are not mutually exclusive. The title is incorrect. THey have yet to actually say they're gonna put USB-C, all that was said in that interview was that Apple will comply with the EU mandate (which by this point is kind of a given, although some of us were half expecting apple to fight this tooth and nail, not worth it though). THe EU has clearly stated that any cables/ports must be USB-C if there is no cables required at all for charging then usb-c is not needed. And yes, the would need something for diagnostics but that could very well be an internally hidden port, this doesn't have to comply with any mandate as it is not meant for use by consumer (Many smartwatches that charge wirelessly have this)

[@EluciveArtist]

They can still innovate in the sense but the real issue that apple has with it is control. If they or someone else comes up with a better method in the future the point is to keep them from monopolizing that port. If apple makes the next best charger/transfer port and cord then they would have to open source it in some way

[@vinusuhas4978]

i really like the chapters it really save times

[@baebrum]

Producer cam is an awesome idea!!

[@mjbates]

I think they go USB-C iPhone but introduce a wall plug with a lightning port. That way you can just turn the cable in the box around. 🤣

[@matttheking1655]

Good one..😆

[@emmaokon7518]

I don't think this is allowed by the law.

[@nuvjoti]

I wonder if the switch to lightning will result in some iPhone users not updating and trying to hold on to their port and accessories for longer. Love the idea of my iPhone charging with the same cable as my iPad, but that also means I have to update my AirPods, battery pack, MagSafe Duo charger, and some of my laptop accessories like my keyboard and trackpad, before it's one wire for everything. At home I have all the wires so I'm not concerned about that use case, but as I mostly only use my iPhone + its accessories while traveling, it's already basically just one Lightning wire for me. A USB C iPhone would mean I have to carry two wires. I might actually hold of on updating phones for once in my life until I am ready to upgrade all the accessories as well.

[@Kushpatel9047]

Like many who are invested into an apple ecosystem, they probably have to carry two cables already, especially if you have newer iPads and/or the MacBooks. Since this will be a transitionary period, hopefully a few years of carrying two cables will be worth it in the long run.

[@grzib]

I like how they are not interrupting each other

[@rayshard2005]

Enjoyed every minute

[@LegendSnapped]

PRODUCER CAM! This has to be a standard for next week. We need some lighting when the trivia jingle plays too lol

[@jxshram]

Big fan of the KZbin design personally! Just think it looks a lot prettier imo

[@emochickluvzblk]

My phone is on dark mode and I just noticed it 😂

[@bendtherules0]

With 4k on non-4k screen, you can also zoom in on the video and still get atleast 1080p resolution on that part.

[@GreenShellShock]

I appreciate Andrew's excitement about the goat Taylor Swift. Also, I would love a producer cam!

[@Otterplus]

I’m wondering how much the usb-c announcement will hinder new iPhone sales over the next year or two. If a long time Apple user knows their current cables and accessories won’t be compatible with newer models there’s a chance they’ll jump on the last models that still have lighting. Newer customers and converts might wait until they know for certain their vast collection of usb-c accessories will continue to be useful I’ve had zero interest in upgrading from my 12PM to a 13 or 14, but if the 15 is sold with usb-c I might be making the switch, definitely if the 16 has it. The only time I use a lightning cable is for CarPlay in my work vehicle. My iPad is usb-c, my AirPods and watch are charged wirelessly, and my phone is charged wirelessly/MagSafe.

[@renofumi28]

Only one way to find out. September event 2023, I guess?

[@Midwestmikey]

Its going to be the same thing that happened with the 30pin connector.. ppl will be mad then get over it. I doubt ppl are still using iPhones with 30pin connector still because they have so many other items that use it lol

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

If you're truly a "long time apple user" then you already have USB-C cables. MacBooks use them. Mac's use them. iPads use them. Thier beats line (yes it still exists) use them. Majority of thier lineup uses them. Unless your rocking an older iMac or an iPhone EXCLUSIVELY you already have a cable or two lying around. Also if you're a "long time apple user" then you should be completely used to using dongles and adapters (not saying you should have to in the first place but you chose the ecosystem).

[@Stupranos]

@@Midwestmikey the big difference is now there’s a good chance those people have something that uses USB-C somewhere around them.

[@arthurchan4277]

my issue is that each usb-c cable is different: some will not transfer power, some won't transfer data. we will still have the same problem with incompatibility, it's just that now all of them fit in the same port

[@eduardosantiago6948]

You can't have it tranfer data but now poer, although the other way around is possible, but not common.

[@shiota79]

@@eduardosantiago6948 I'm also trying to undertsnad this; so is it that it can always transfer power (PD), but not all of them transfer data?

[@eduardosantiago6948]

@@shiota79 they are supposed to, but some cheap cables skip the data wires to make it cheaper. Should't be too common tho.

[@aaronrdaniels]

12:32 yes you are correct. My AirPods and iPhone 14 are the only things that use a non USB-C cable. Even most of my HDMI applications have been replaced with them

[@tylerwilkison1487]

Big facts 😂 I’m watching in 1440, always will. Great resolution and fast loading times

[@Yaxoi]

The thing with USB-C is that Apples has done everything over the past decades the avoid any market regulation. The Comission wanted to be cooperative, but standardizing to USB-C was a last resort decision. Also, as far as I know the EU standardization is regarding the USB-C formfactor mostly, and as long as the internals are backwards compatible people can still stuff whatever the want in there. What the Apple guy said is mostly a greenwashing smokescreen IMO

[@keco185]

I hate the pinch to zoom update because it's so hard to pinch to fill. You instantly pass the "fill" zoom level

[@kathydliggins5677]

Another very informative podcast....

[@dantaytay4359]

Yes to the producer cam. And I have an iPhone 13promax and always try to watch in 2160p cause everything just looks crispier 😂

[@klatchabobby]

Apple actually has five different types of chargers. Lightning, USB-C, MagSafe (MacBook), MagSafe (iPhone), Apple Watch puck thing. I want MagSafe (MacBook) on all of them. It's the easiest to use

[@MrJudgi]

But now they aren’t allowed to do that, but maybe there are adapters from MagSafe to usbc, that you can plug into your phone

[@lenzzzzzzz]

Thunderbolt 3* lol

[@li_tsz_fung]

Sony 4K phone gang here

[@truecuckoo]

Ps. I got a mid roll ad in this video, just around the time you were talking about mid roll ads 😅

[@ljs8618]

The producer cam should be a shot of the whole room/ behind the scenes angle!

[@hurrycanger]

so Apple says they prefer keeping Lightning because they don't wanna waste billions old usb-A to Lightning cables, which, to be clear, transfer data slowly and charges your phone super duper slowly. And at the same time Apple didn't hesitate to chop off the headphone jack which supported billions and billions of headphones ever in existence and somehow they thought that was good for the environment. To be clear, I'm used to bluetooth headphones by now, but the argument is extremely silly and basically just shifting blame to the EU for harming the environment. Oh well, classic Apple. 🤷‍♂️

[@JR-to8sn]

Apple OWNS the patent on lightning and get a cut of EVERY lightning cable, outlet etc. that is made. THAT is the only reason they fight it.

[@mohac___]

Thank god you guys are talking about the YT redesign. It sucks! ( Talking about the UI )

[@jaughnekow]

It's great

[@mohac___]

@@jaughnekow Idk man. The sub button is mehh. I like how the previous button blended in with the background, now it's all changed. But glad you like it👍

[@shapeofsoup]

Yes to the producer cam!

[@RodolfoA28]

The best podcast. Greetings from Monterrey, Mexico!

[@PhaythGaming]

Hard disagree that the KZbin UI sucks. I actually like this vibe.

[@nandhagopan]

You guys need to do this live like the WAN Show... Not film this on Wednesday... Elon-Twitter News has to wait a week now...

[@daniel.cuevas]

Yes to the producer cam 👍😆

[@jmbosquesillo7203]

I use the same brick for all the devices. Different ends on a chord but the power adapter is the same.

[@robertfeliciano5723]

I'm in the tiny fraction. I watch in 4K on my laptop and desktop and can notice when it hiccups to HD. I had the Dell 30" 1600p monitor 15 years ago.

[@ArseniyKruglov]

The compression is so strong that KZbin's 2160p looks like 'Blu-ray' 1080p. I could notice it on 1080p 24", 1440p 24", 2160p 32", 1880p 14", etc. monitors

[@sventroy]

What's funny is that they/Ford had an electric focus in 2012-16 (might still be being produced). But no one remembers because they didn't market it well and it didn't have more features than the regular Focus, plus only had ~75-100 miles of range.

[@eddiesanchez3145]

23:13 Had to pause and go back, Bad Baby??? 😂😂

[@sgcc03]

The adapter to charge the Apple Pencil first gen comes with it. if you have a old gen one pencil then yes you have to get the adapter for it.

[@devanarayans5131]

I went from 720p to 4k 😂.. and gotta say, I was glued to my tv for many many many days 😂

[@alansaldanha1698]

Which song is this? Loved the podcast but love the tune even more.

[@car-bq]

KZbin vanced, can't remember the last time I saw ads. Plus the added benefit of sponsor block

[@asianmanrules6]

Love the Haas shirt Andrew!!!

[@avel7007]

Yes! Show us the producers/team! 😊

[@JacobFrodsham]

I always manually select the highest quality option, unless my Cell service doesn't allow it then I set it automatic. Maybe 4K and HDR should be behind a paywall. Honestly HDR makes a bigger difference than a higher resolution.

[@e39lwd]

Producer cam? YES!