ill take a good condition used hellcat over a new scatpack any day, depreciation curve already passed most likely and you get a faster car on top of that.
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
IaMaWeSoMe7478 yup. It’s a nice thing about buying used. If you ever need to sell it, the previous owner endured most of the depreciation
@krizkruize33405 жыл бұрын
Love it man. Hitting the nail on the head with your argumentation. Looking forward for the one year review.
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
KRIZ KRUIZE thanks Kriz! I just gotta make the time. Been too preoccupied with other matters lately but I’ll get to it
@curiousfloyd75905 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I bought my 2017 SRT with 5000kms on it for $15k cheaper than new and it was like 8 months old. Now I’m looking to trade for a used Hellcat.
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
Curious Floyd plenty of good deals on used cats. Have fun on your search!
@turboaccord14 жыл бұрын
I've had my 15 hellcat for 2.5 years. Paid 50k for it with 8k miles, one owner car. It has been Nickel and diming me lately out of warranty. Bad wheel speed sensors, busted/ leaking radiator, bad turn signal led that can't be serviced separately from the assembly. To me the biggest thing to take into consideration on buying any Chrysler product is consider how much warranty is left because any of the problems I have had could happen to any model.
@Shadow-fh1pp5 жыл бұрын
Excellent points! One factor that makes me debate a new scat over an older scat is the widebody.
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
Shadow RT that’s a good point. Widebody is a totally different ballgame!
@turntablethoughts42325 жыл бұрын
Got my 2016'scat in December of 2017 with 3000 miles on it for 35,000 ......harmon kardon, ventilated seats, and 8 speed auto...
@CJ-cv1ds5 жыл бұрын
Also you touched on a well known point in the car world. New cars carry an insane premium. Even buying an additional warranty for the Hellcat's supercharger on a used model is very cheap. I bought a 3800 mile example for well under 20k for an equivalent new. Scat or cat, extremely low mileage 1 owners abound and the Redeye will continue suppressing 2018 and prior years.
@moparsrt8225 жыл бұрын
I have recently found your channel and i would like to thank you for that great advice you give.First im 18 and in college i was thinking of buying a scatpack but you opened up my eyes and i realized i rather should move out of my moms before i get a car like that and i will never buy new so i wont take that big hit on depreciation. And its true a lot of young guys get in debt for a depreciating asset but its because people on youtube give us bad advice.Salute you have earned my subscription
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
You sound like a very WISE young man, and good things happen to those who are wise! Thanks for the comment and I’m glad I was of some help!
@bennyvazquez35475 жыл бұрын
Good point. Honestly I was in the market for either a used Hellcat or a used scar... I ended up purchasing a Kennebell. On E85 I’ll be making 550rwhp. Not bad and I have no payments. Lol.. super cool vid brother
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
VERY nice! That kind of power to the rear wheels is tons of fun. Enjoy!
@bwayne_nobatman3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the only reason someone should purchase a brand new scatpack is if you want the widebody, if you simply just want to accomplish getting a brand new car off the lot or if you want to lease one and always have the current year anything other than that you should definitely consider a used one great video
@jeffdurling1004 жыл бұрын
This video is over a year old at this point. I'll admit I went for the New Scat Pack but with the market in Aug/Sept of 2020 for me it was the better choice. Used Scat Packs are actually still more than what I paid new for the same, or less, options. Looked at Hellcats and they had drifted back up as well. In a normal market I think the buying advice given here is right on target. Right now, it just wasn't relative for me. I could have waited out the market and went for a used Scat Pack or Hellcat. Thing is with Covid I don't know how long that will play out and with the used car market really crazy right now I traded in a vehicle and was able to actually get money of the new Scat on top of the deals being offered. I love the Hellcat, and will probably have one at some point, but for me it's about driving the last true muscle car and the 392 isn't slow by any means.
@mikebythesun4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Durling Sounds like you made a good decision. Right now (Sept 2020) is not a good time to buy a used car. With new manufacturing limited, the used market has heated up and driven up prices. I’m always tracking car prices and it is amazing to see used Hellcats going to for $7-8k more than they were pre-Covid. I got rid of my Hellcat in July and the dealership then listed the car for almost the same price that I paid for it two years and 20k miles ago! I don’t track new car prices as closely but it looks like they’ve ticked upward as well. In any case, enjoy your Scat! At some point down the road I’ll probably get another Challenger and I’ll likely opt for the Scat Shaker.
@sctm814 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your video. The only time you should buy a new car is .... well, never. Kidding, of course. But the only time it makes sense is when the new model has something substantially better than last year's model. Like if it makes 100 more hp. And even then it may be better to wait a year or two for it and then buy it used.
@vinniecorleone625 жыл бұрын
Excellent points man! Buying a good used Challenger of any trim is the smart thing to do always, I'm very happy with my slightly used Blacktop Edition with Super Track Pack with only 14K on it for $28,000, why pay $44,000 plus for a base Hemi Challenger.
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
vinniecorleone62 right on!
@mikereeves2825 жыл бұрын
What is really comparable is a new Scatpack Widebody vs a used Hellcat. those 2 cars are very similar in price. What it comes down to is the look of the Widebody vs the extra 200HP. I wrestled with that for 6months. Best used Hellcat I found was a 2016 A8 with 15K miles for $49K. I went with a brand new scatpack widebody and paid $48K with a lifetime pwertrain warranty. for the used Hellcat, I looked into extended warranty and also replacing the rear tires with something wider...when I added in those costs, the Hellcat was a lot more. I love the look of the Widebody and there are not that many out there yet, so it stands out. Can't go wrong either way though
@BenficaMike4 жыл бұрын
Im in the same boat right now. Already had a 2015 sublime scat pack. Fun car. Sold a couple years ago. I miss it. Looking at used Hellcats, but a base 2020 Scat Pack Widebody A8 is down to 40K right now. Just test drove one yesterday and offered 38K. They were asking 43K AFTER $4850 rebate...final offer they gave me was 40K plus tax and fees. Almost did it but they don't have my Go Mango color I really wanted. Only octane red and white. Hellcats 45-48K...new Scat pack widebody base, 40k...hmmmm help!
@mikereeves2824 жыл бұрын
MAD118 if you happen to be lucky enough to be purchasing a car with nothing to trade, then you should be able to get anything you want.....dealers are stuck with a lot of inventory right now
@BenficaMike4 жыл бұрын
Mike Reeves Just not sure which is best deal... used hellcat (more power) vs new scat pack widebody... Not sure which I want. Insane power and fun. Or Brand New 500 hp widebody fun. Yeah... no trade in. Just a weekend toy.
@mikereeves2824 жыл бұрын
MAD118 yeah....weekend car for me too, but was a year too early.....widebody looks great and get a ton of compliments. Not many widebodys out there so it catches people’s eye......I do notice that a lot of guys notice the car and their eyes go right to the badge to see if my car is a hellcat. 392s would be a lot better if they weren’t so expensive to mod and the PCM wasn’t encrypted. If I tune I lose my warranty
@TheBlackScatPack5 жыл бұрын
Noooooo not the beard 😂😂 but you’re bringing up good points. My first Challenger was used but I learned that the previous owner didn’t take care of the car but it still wouldn’t change my mind about used cars. I’d definitely consider a used Scat or Hellcat if I was in the market for one. Dang man, a year already? Time flies
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
TheBlack ScatPack you know it! Hope all is well with you, brother !
@thelifeofBrian85 жыл бұрын
Hey man you`re right on the money. I was considering first used Scat then new Scat and then the used Hellcats came into range. Turns out I can`t buy brand new for export and I found a fully loaded Scat Shaker for 30 grand and I feel like it`s a hell of a deal I spent 60% of my money on it and I can enjoy it from day one because it`s already used....
@thelifeofBrian85 жыл бұрын
And later I can still opt for a used Hellcat when I feel like I need the upgrade.
@DiddyBop_5 жыл бұрын
Got My scatpack is new.. it only has one option tho dynamics package I was oblivious to used hellcats when I was shopping a year and a half ago I didn’t see any at my dealer didn’t think to go on cars.com now I spend my days looking at the 40k hellcats kicking myself in the butt
@kingsproductions97605 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Mike! I enjoy all your content. You seem like a regular guy with a regular life that shoots a KZbin video here and there instead of doing it as a job. After seeing you and your boy do those cars and donuts videos it really encouraged me that my kids would fit fine back there! Keep doing you bro.
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
miguel reyes Thanks man, I appreciate it! Yeah, “regular guy” pretty much sums it up for me in terms of my car background, especially when it comes to performance related issues. I’m hoping to do some new “donuts and the dodge” style videos again this summer. Thanks for watching - more to come, including a one year review on the hellcat.
@themopardad5 жыл бұрын
@mikebytheson good to see you back, hope the family is well. Good to see a good KZbinr properly addressing this with experience of both. 🤟 rock on dude 🤟
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
The Mopar Dad thanks man!
@A42yearoldARAB5 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong either way, but if you can find a hellcat that hasn't been abused, it's well worth it. They're about as cheap as they're gonna get until people start trading them in with 100k on them.
@redrider01515 жыл бұрын
I picked up my SRT used and saved 12-15k and then added BBS wheels, Barton shifter, Exhaust, Tuner and all the other addon's and still didnt come close to the money I saved and had a car styled to my specific individual tastes....(plus mine is a GWE so I will keep it FOREVER...I've had it 5-6 years now and it had just at 10k miles on it and now it has 37k...its a weekend special day kind of car vice a daily)
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
RedRider0151 you know I love the GWE and those wheels!
@enzocree5154 жыл бұрын
The majority of used Hellcats are beat to shit and usually out of warranty. Those who purchased the mopar extended warranty for their Hellcats still have them. Personally I would get a Hellcat new for the peace of mind and go for the scatpacks used.
@miket26074 жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone with logic lol. Now now, I know cars aren’t good investments, but some people have their different pleasures. Thanks for the down to earth logic
@_kerosene_90705 жыл бұрын
Cheer's for posting , great info :-)
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
_kerosene_ thanks!
@scatpack13815 жыл бұрын
Looking to get a used Hellcat. I hope in 2 years. I want to spend no more than $30k.🤞
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
Scat Pack that might be a very tall order, even in 2 yrs. you can find some now for 40 but they tend to be bad carfax cars.
@scatpack13815 жыл бұрын
@@mikebythesun I know. I hope to find a high mileage one.
@jrichieander68324 жыл бұрын
Hellcat is just a car you won’t see everyday and the collector factor is there 30 years from now I can see hellcats being worth a lot
@CJ-cv1ds5 жыл бұрын
Just props to you, used your advice and got my Cat about a month ago!
@ziggyandi82355 жыл бұрын
I ordered a new scat pack only option The scat stripe And the red Brake calipers,I also have the six speed manual you’re right they are Fun.This is my third challenger in four years bought him a brand new 2016 SXT Traded with 1000 miles 2017 RT blacktop package traded with 2500 miles Then in February I ordered a 2019 scat pack I love it but I’m going to have to quit there I can’t buy no more you know how that goes that’s how I started watching your channel I seen the five Challenger in four Years Video and a lot you said and it happened just the way it was for me LOL
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
Ziggy And I haha you got bit by the same bug as me! Careful man, just when you say you’ve had enough you’ll find yourself shopping again lol!
@56gasser105 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike been watching for ya...good to see you again...was watching for you at the Richard Petty cruize in but the weather wasn’t that great but it had a good turnout
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
56 Gasser yeah man I didn’t come out for that. Now that the weather is breaking I’m out more!
@jordankoci5 жыл бұрын
Wow. You just blew me away. Seems like such an obvious choice, but it’s not one I’ve considered or heard anyone discuss. Why not get a nice car AND a lower payment?
@BenficaMike4 жыл бұрын
Base new widebody scat pack challengers going for 39-40K now. Hmm..used Hellcat or new Scat Pack widebody now??? hmmm....
@Sky15 жыл бұрын
Want the Wide body and want the rear cross path alert
@michaelprichett06175 жыл бұрын
I was lookin at used scat chargers around the 37k range in Charlotte so it's either used scat or used Daytona
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
Michael prichett sounds high. Look around - there are good deals to be found
@prepboymagic5 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat but I'm looking everywhere. I love my silver bullet RT but I want some more horses lol
@tommybrumfield30523 жыл бұрын
Is LaMelo the future for the hornets? 😜
@derrick31705 жыл бұрын
Mike I like your video man you tell some great stuff
@mrbabyears4 жыл бұрын
Yo, I remember when you had the white challenger. Brah. Where are you.
@56gasser105 жыл бұрын
Mike you doing good? Haven’t heard anything in awhile?
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
56 Gasser Thanks for checking in, man. Yeah everything is actually really good. Been super focused on my work over the last several months and haven’t had enough motivation to make time for videos. Shot a video this weekend but need to redo it. But overall I’m thinking about what else to do with the channel. Who knows...
@82buffnasty5 жыл бұрын
Got the baby face goin on!
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
Calvin Johnson haha, yeah I miss it. Can’t rock the trucker hats or the flat brims the same!
@lsohweldfab65754 жыл бұрын
Looking at a 2015 hellcat 80k 1 owner for $34k. Really want a Hellcat but am torn on the age and mileage might be to much. What do you think?
@mikebythesun4 жыл бұрын
LSOH weld & fab You get what you pay for. Low price, high miles, higher risk. For $10k more you can get a lot more peace of mind.
@lsohweldfab65754 жыл бұрын
Yessir, good words there
@smallsoles62095 жыл бұрын
My local dodge has a bare bones 19 scatpack for 35 but I’ve seen hellcats in my area for 45 I’m only 18 which one would be more realistic insurance cost wise
@smallsoles62095 жыл бұрын
I know there’s many factors in insurance cost I jus want your opinion
@Blueray5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to do a collaboration with you! I'm trying to grow my channel here in Cary NC. Let me know if we can get together sometime!
@derrick31705 жыл бұрын
Keeping it real
@tktk-om8cg4 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy has it been reliable the whole time and have you modded it
@fneal685 жыл бұрын
is the r/t slow? going from a v6 camaro?
@mikebythesun5 жыл бұрын
fneal68 I’ve never been in a v6 Camaro so I could not say how they compare
@ChrisEvans-su9zs5 жыл бұрын
Yeah Mike if I had the money I Would have a v8 but would not be able to drive it to Many tickets so the 6 saves .edu I'm going to have to cheek into what joey66 just put on his car
@Adikxx5 жыл бұрын
Did you really sit there for all that time with engine idling??? That's simply stupid! Waste of fuel and polluting for no reason....