So You want to Buy a Used Hellcat

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Mikebythe Sun

Mikebythe Sun

Күн бұрын

These are the top of mind thoughts and takeaways from my recent experience of shopping for a used Challenger Hellcat

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@DwaneRichardsonSr.
@DwaneRichardsonSr. 4 жыл бұрын
The lining up your own financing before you even go do the dealership, was enough to earn you a new sub.
@coldrolled1
@coldrolled1 5 жыл бұрын
One important note to understand, the "finance manager" is the best salesman in the dealership. Just say no to everything he offers. And the reason it takes soooo long at the dealer - its all planned to wear you down! So get your financing done with your own bank before you go in - set the parameters of the buy and stick to it! Be prepared to walk away - there's always another deal out there and another beautiful car.
@infosneakr
@infosneakr 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they got me for everything. Extended warranty, paint coating, rim protection, door ding fixing, oil changes for three years . I fell for all of it.
@JM-si2lx
@JM-si2lx 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip bro
@gregw2076
@gregw2076 4 жыл бұрын
@@infosneakr 😂😂😂😴
@yessir5713
@yessir5713 3 жыл бұрын
What if you pay cash?
@hemipower3308
@hemipower3308 6 жыл бұрын
No one should go car shopping without watching this video a minimum of at least two times.Great common sense approach to car buying,don’t be the sucker be The informed educated consumer,the one that the car salesmen hate to see. Best car buying video I have ever seen.Thank you.
@ayebee1207
@ayebee1207 5 жыл бұрын
Salesman at other car maker company- "Why are you trading it with only 300 miles?" Customer- "I blew the doors off my tool neighbors car, slept with his wife and just need new options."
@gman4hire
@gman4hire 6 жыл бұрын
I'm that guy who would stop and ask you about your car at the parking lot. Love that color on the challenger. Good advice and well spoken. Going to be awhile before I buy a car again but I will never forget this advice.
@RushShift
@RushShift 6 жыл бұрын
Very good information! Love the color choice :)
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
Rush SRT Thanks man. I love your channel! Your car is beautiful.
@bigblock-wz4bb
@bigblock-wz4bb 5 жыл бұрын
mikebythesun I got tha same ray bands bro
@apb500
@apb500 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff brother, I went through same things when I bought my 16 HC Charger which only had 10,000 miles on it. I am second owner and let the 1st owner take a bath on it.
@ddgracia15
@ddgracia15 6 жыл бұрын
Well said sir, you described what I went through. Know your credit score and be firm when you sign, they will try to sell you all the options available GAP, Extended warranty, upgraded alarm.... best thing is to walk out. They can make deals on those extras. Just keep saying no...no ....no. Ended up with a 2018 Octane Red Charger HC. I stared with a SE,RT,Scat Pack, now HC
@j.vosier6786
@j.vosier6786 5 жыл бұрын
David Gracia what was the total price?? And what was your credit score?
@abandoandahellcat
@abandoandahellcat 4 жыл бұрын
@@j.vosier6786 I wish more people actually told the rest of the story instead of these blanket statements. That mess doesn't help anyone.
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 6 жыл бұрын
I bet they dropped even more now that the redeye has been introduced
@patrickhayden1977
@patrickhayden1977 6 жыл бұрын
I’m very happy that I did not pull the trigger on the Hellcat in 2015 when I bought my Challenger. I went with the 392 Scat Pack Shaker as this was the old-school car I was after. It turned out to be 1 of 2 built!!
@A42yearoldARAB
@A42yearoldARAB 6 жыл бұрын
Its amazing how many people don't understand the last step. Dealers get a cut if they can talk you into one of their banks. Always know before you go in, what your bank will give you and the rate. You can pay so much more for the same car someone else got if you skip this.
@montay87ify
@montay87ify 6 жыл бұрын
I buy a hellcat they better sell me speeding ticket insurance 🤣
@jdigitalseven7
@jdigitalseven7 4 жыл бұрын
And lots if waterpumps that keep failing on these Fiat Challengers
@ByIntros
@ByIntros 3 жыл бұрын
Joseph Ryan its covered with warranty lol
@francoroman2295
@francoroman2295 6 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO. VERY Hard to beat a Credit Union LOAN !! MOPAR OR NO CAR
@jumpinjimmyg2164
@jumpinjimmyg2164 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought my used 17 hellcat in March with my own financing, it's the way to go, however dealers dont like it cause they dont get all their financing, protection package kick backs. But it does give you more negotiation leverage in my opinion. Black 22k miles leased car 1 owner. So far so good.
@Bubba-Ho
@Bubba-Ho 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, incredible amount of info in this vid. In all honesty I couldn't buy a used Hellcat, I couldn't trust that the person before me didn't beat the living hell out of it. Way back in the day (1991) my dad wanted a 87 Grand National, after two years of looking couldn't find one that wasn't beat to hell. He settled on a new 93 Cobra.
@beastleontv7595
@beastleontv7595 6 жыл бұрын
This video should have millions of views great info on buying a car in general
@vinniecorleone62
@vinniecorleone62 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent points, I agree. I talked my dealer down $6000 by walking away on my Challenger for two weeks with only 14K miles on it with Flowmasters, resonators deleted & window tint in flawless condition. I locked in at a 2.99 interest rate with only $50 down & obtained a $1000 cut & polish paint correction on top of it by waiting the very last day of the year when the dealership is highly motivated to blow out all older models.
@OuzoLouGarage
@OuzoLouGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Hey vinn
@CyberrJunky
@CyberrJunky 6 жыл бұрын
You are a superman 😁
@j.vosier6786
@j.vosier6786 5 жыл бұрын
vinniecorleone62 what was the total cost? And did u get it dec 30?
@vinniecorleone62
@vinniecorleone62 4 жыл бұрын
@@j.vosier6786 28K, sorry I missed your comment.
@TheBlackScatPack
@TheBlackScatPack 6 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely been an adventure watching you look for a Hellcat and finally finding one. That last piece of advice I’m going to follow because I’m about to be in the market for another Mopar myself.
@JohnJones-cg2xm
@JohnJones-cg2xm 5 жыл бұрын
You got wife approval on that car?? More power to you man.
@swardhs1
@swardhs1 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I dealt with the exact same thing. When they found out I was going to use my own credit unit, this particular dealership then decided to try and press me on their financing. It became this big Dog and pony show and they found every excuse NOT to sell that vehicle to me. So I found another one somewhere else... Great Advice!
@bobbyromo69
@bobbyromo69 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t care if it’s not the top of the line anymore this is still the car that came out my first year in college that I said 1 day I’ll own it’ll always be number 1 in my heart and a dream to own
@joeysixtysix
@joeysixtysix 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man, great information. I'm still thinking of a used Hellcat even though I'm loving my Scat Pack.
@TeW33zy
@TeW33zy 5 жыл бұрын
My hellcat has a custom feel done by dodge. So, the last owner won custom work by dodge for paint and exhaust, and i have it now. Now i wanna do the wheels
@alaury13
@alaury13 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m glad you broke everything for everyone. I have a SRT8 challenger I’ve had for a while now. Ive been looking for a Cahllenger hellcat also for a while. Sooner or later I’ll just commit to getting one. Thx for vid 👊🏾
@TheGregWallace
@TheGregWallace 6 жыл бұрын
That's why you never trade your car in at the dealer. You are better off selling it yourself in most cases.
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it makes perfect sense to trade in, depending on the value of the vehicles and the tax rate of the state you’re buying in. If you get a few grand more selling privately, you’re now putting that difference to make up for the tax credit you’re not getting doing a trade in. Every situation/deal is different, so I never say never. For me, I saved about $3000 in taxes doing the trade, which is about what i would have gotten selling privately above the trade in, so it was a wash.
@AStanton1966
@AStanton1966 5 жыл бұрын
When I sell a $20 item on Facebook or Craigslist, people want to beat you down to 25 cents. I couldn't imagine selling a $20,000 or better car to these rubes myself.
@d3s1r3dpk
@d3s1r3dpk 4 жыл бұрын
A Stanton1966 exactly. People need to be realistic
@JOHN_WICK_IS_SICK
@JOHN_WICK_IS_SICK 4 жыл бұрын
How to Deal with Finance Managers: Based on Personal Success -Let them think you might buy the extended repair plan or whatever bogus they're offering. -They will try harder to pull strings with both the price and the interest rate. -My initial price was 23,000 and the first offer for IR was 6.1% -After I stated "was planning on choosing my own bank" as "their offer was 5.xx%" - The Finance guy magically was able to talk his partner creditor down to 4.xx%, and after he was convinced he would sell me the extended plan, He let me talk down the price to under 21k. I didn't buy the plan, and I also didn't have another bank with an offer. Yet I now own a 2014 sexy plum crazy rt challenger for 15% less than advertised, from a Chrysler dealership.
@rajparmarman
@rajparmarman 6 жыл бұрын
A used Hellcat. I shudder to think of how hard that car was ridden and how poorly cared for by the previous owner. I very much understand depreciation and value but people should think about long term costs of buying a car that was likely driving in the "red zone" every mile for the time the previous owner had the car......
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
rajparmarman it’s definitely the risk one takes. I think you have to assume that they were driven hard as intended. Fortunately I know the previous owner and know that it was babied.
@Widebody20
@Widebody20 6 жыл бұрын
Like mine.
@frankie072
@frankie072 6 жыл бұрын
rajparmarman no doubt there are many Hellcats ,and cars in general I would hate to think what they went through,BUT,that's were patients and doing your homework comes in,I can tell you for a fact 9 out of 10 times I will know before I even drive a used car if it was best to shit... Theres a big difference from laying some rubber here and there to a car that was pushed hard ,and always pushed hard...I am confident in what I know and just by going over a car that I will get a used /but brand new (practically) car....If you take 2 Hellcats both with 10 thousand miles ,same exact car down to the color ,one was at the dragstrip every weekend and one was just some guys midlife crisis he took to shows ,maybye an occasional burnout ,or getting on the highway throwing some gears...You out both of those cars in front of me and I will guarantee I will know which car was beat and which wasnt in a matter of 5 minutes...just know what your buying dont get caught in the moment ,just how each car feels will be different ,but it's up to the buyer to know the signs ...I have no issues with a used muscle car.i made the mistake years ago of getting caught in the moment and got a beat transam,since then ,every used car has been practically new.there are very good used Hellcats along with the beat ones.Just be a smart buyer and you will be fine and have a great car
@jasonpalmer5437
@jasonpalmer5437 6 жыл бұрын
rajparmarman, I agree. Watching many videos here on YT has convinced me to take the depreciation on a new 2019 HC Charger. 10k of mileage may easily translate to 20k of wear and tear for some of these.
@j.vosier6786
@j.vosier6786 5 жыл бұрын
Frankie 072 how can i tell if the car was driven hard?
@coldrolled1
@coldrolled1 5 жыл бұрын
Couple other points, wait until the last day of the month before buying and buy at the end of November. You will get the best deal you possibly can. Dealers have quota's to hit and they get bonuses for hitting them - they turn in their numbers at the end of the month. A rear wheel muscle car - for most - will be garaged in winter which also means the market really slows on these type of cars if you live in a 4 season zone in those colder months. Also, at the end of the year they want to move product to make room for the new models on their lot - so if they have a Hellcat and it isn't sold by November, they know they aren't selling it until March/April at the earliest. They will pay for that carry on the car = loosing profits on the sale. Warm weather state, forget all what I said in regards to the 4 seasons states. I have done this multiple times and got fantastic deals.
@mikerosenberger3809
@mikerosenberger3809 6 жыл бұрын
Interest rates only matter to those who must borrow for their toys. Kash is King! Love your vids
@speedybug1377
@speedybug1377 6 жыл бұрын
He’s right bringing my own financing saved me 1500 dollars they wasn’t budging on the price until I brought my own financing with me ..
@ctapmgriley
@ctapmgriley 5 жыл бұрын
The dealers want you to believe the "Internet" price is the lowest price they will take for a vehicle. I know from experience, if you are patient and are willing to walk out the door over the price they offer, they will take less.
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 5 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. I’ve never paid asking price, internet or not. But I’ve walked out of many dealerships with no one running after me. If a dealer would rather wait to get the price they need, they’ll let you walk and won’t think twice about it.
@brendasjeep1084
@brendasjeep1084 5 жыл бұрын
2019 717 hp : ) going cheap got mine 55k
@bobfish3176
@bobfish3176 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@2Much2lose
@2Much2lose 5 жыл бұрын
Brenda's Jeep LoL that’s what you think
@carwizard3672
@carwizard3672 6 жыл бұрын
What an informative video. Car economics greatly explained! Subscribed
@chrisrobinson6486
@chrisrobinson6486 6 жыл бұрын
Great video...thank for some great advice...appreciate it....Love the color..great choice...stands out nice....
@314DOOGIE
@314DOOGIE 6 жыл бұрын
right I'm pissed . now they will be coming out with scat packs that look like hell cats with the hood. crazy ..
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
The hood AND the front fascia. I’m disappointed, too.
@A42yearoldARAB
@A42yearoldARAB 6 жыл бұрын
Yup so wrong. We have the oldest looking model now.
@_LEONKING_
@_LEONKING_ 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so ready to get one, I'll wait a bit more to get a good deal on a 2017. I'll be trading in my current loan (392 Challenger) because I love the car and thought I'd keep it but after seeing how freaking good these cars are I really want the better one. 2017 have a bunch of cosmetic upgrades over the 2015 and 2016 and hopefully they will get in the 38k-42k range soon.
@RiggyRonnie
@RiggyRonnie 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people who buy these cars rip the hell out of them best not to buy a cheap used one.
@RandySoWavvy
@RandySoWavvy 4 жыл бұрын
JuAsked ForIt depends most take them out once in while drive them like hell and put it back in a garage to sit around. Most don’t daily drive these they’re the cool second car that only gets out on the weekend or every other weekend
@BillNiersbach
@BillNiersbach 5 жыл бұрын
I agree on EVERY front that you talked about. The other thing that needs to be taken into consideration before you pull the trigger on a Hellcat is that you better be planning on your insurance rates going UP. THis was a big factor in me keeping my 2011 SRT vice getting into a newer HC....
@shotokanslammer1
@shotokanslammer1 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t knock the GAP insurance. You wreck a $100k hellcat with a quickly depreciating market value with a long term loan like most people on these cars - you’re on the hook for big money when your insurance company only gives you $70k and you still need a replacement.
@norwegianblue2017
@norwegianblue2017 6 жыл бұрын
With the introduction of the Red Eye, this is now the #4 model.
@timsgta
@timsgta 6 жыл бұрын
salesman make a lot more commission off of used cars than new cars, an actual car salesman told me that and why it is too
@Travios1115
@Travios1115 5 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the dealer trying to beat your financing.... Dealer - "yea we will beat that monthly payment and % rate just give us your info" Me - If you can beat that monthly payment and % rate then why do you need my info? Dealer - Error 404 Me - Writes down better rate and payment** "please sign/initial here if this works for you" Dealer - DNS server error
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! Nice!
@calvinh.8882
@calvinh.8882 6 жыл бұрын
And now there's the new Red Eye.. Almost 800hp. on pump gas.. A loaded one is around 100k tax tag and title..
@JM-si2lx
@JM-si2lx 4 жыл бұрын
Calvin H. I’ve seen the down to 65k
@kyruntyree3891
@kyruntyree3891 3 жыл бұрын
@@JM-si2lx really!
@josephmontecalvo9058
@josephmontecalvo9058 4 жыл бұрын
Really great stuff Mike. This should be taught in high school.
@d3s1r3dpk
@d3s1r3dpk 4 жыл бұрын
Joseph Montecalvo no for real tho...that’s the major problem with today’s school system. Doesn’t prepare us for what’s happening TODAY.
@56gasser10
@56gasser10 6 жыл бұрын
I was considering it...but would like a 2018..considering trading my 2018 R/T
@DARKESSENCE420
@DARKESSENCE420 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought mine 2016 with 43k started at 46k i wanted 21k for my trade in ended up at 38k and 15k for trade in and i got to keep my after market parts. Worth 2k ish. Its all about timing
@crokett5861
@crokett5861 6 жыл бұрын
Wish we were seeing these lower used prices in Canada. No chance here we just don't have the used car numbers.
@MrPdforeman
@MrPdforeman 4 жыл бұрын
Good info!! Mine is in the bag. But you have very good insight in buying/ financing a hot rod.
@BeauCars
@BeauCars 6 жыл бұрын
Worst part about buying a used Hellcat: Test drives.
@casherrera98
@casherrera98 5 жыл бұрын
Beau why?
@angelramos4760
@angelramos4760 4 жыл бұрын
Cash Herrera they give you the black key, I know I’m late
@RandySoWavvy
@RandySoWavvy 4 жыл бұрын
And they want to ride with you so you can’t really open it up
@bradosanz4479
@bradosanz4479 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative video! Do you think the introduction of the 2019 Widebody 392 and other variations will drive down the cost to low 40s? Also, I got very lucky with my first purchase: a cammed FBO 2011 Camaro with upgraded ZL1 wheels and a lot of engine work done that ran FLAWLESSLY - I got it off the lot for 21k out the door! haha
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 5 жыл бұрын
Great catch with the Camaro! Re: pricing predictions, its hard to say what will happen to prices and WHEN. The Scat widebody and the 1320 are interesting trims but they are still far behind the standard 707 Hellcat in terms of power so they very well continue to hold where they are now. Will you be able to find used Cats in the low 40’s? Sure - you can find them now, though in many cases they are not the ideal car you want to buy. The elephant in the room though is actually interest rates. As most people utilize credit to purchase vehicles, the fact that interest rates have gone up THREE times this year (the third just being today and the Fed announced that they plan to raise rates again in December) means that it will get more expensive to purchase a car. For example, financing on a used $50k car over 72 months at 6% is about $1700 more than at 5%, or about $25/month difference. For a lot of people, that’s the difference between buying and not buying.
@partainbanner
@partainbanner 5 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful car! Congratulations...
@frankie072
@frankie072 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike
@JM-si2lx
@JM-si2lx 4 жыл бұрын
Saw a 2016 hellcat for 42.9 really thinkin about gettin it before some1 else
@DismaliciousX21
@DismaliciousX21 4 жыл бұрын
J M i saw a 2016 challenger hellcat for $45k
@Mr-so4jx
@Mr-so4jx 6 жыл бұрын
Best video online thanks bro I'm currently in the hunt for a 392 or a good deal on a hellcat I have been looking for about 2 months doing a lot of homework and watching other vids this Is some good information.
@jayinla81
@jayinla81 6 жыл бұрын
I have one for sale. 6k miles, M6
@ATouchOfCharmed
@ATouchOfCharmed 6 жыл бұрын
Great info Mike :)
@yvonneclark6172
@yvonneclark6172 4 жыл бұрын
To purchase a used car for $45,000 with no factory warranty is crazy
@crazylegsfishing9934
@crazylegsfishing9934 5 жыл бұрын
Cool shirt! those guys are a friend of a friend of mine. Are you from NJ originally? Looking hard at the scat pack. Hopefully I can make the deal happen!
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy Legs Fishing Yeah I am, and I go WAY back with John many years!
@crazylegsfishing9934
@crazylegsfishing9934 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikebythesun Awesome! I'm going to look at a used scat pack today in Freehold, wish me luck (ps if you're ever back in Jerzy and wanna fish, holla!)
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 5 жыл бұрын
Crazy Legs Fishing Best of luck to you on the purchase. Hope it works out for you! Re: fishing, I actually don’t fish on the regular - just with John when I’m in Jersey!
@crazylegsfishing9934
@crazylegsfishing9934 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikebythesun Dude, I bought that Scat Pack!
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy Legs Fishing Awesome! Congrats, man.. enjoy!
@ChrisBlasius
@ChrisBlasius 6 жыл бұрын
Good tips man!!! Thanks a lot! Great video!
@orlandoares530
@orlandoares530 5 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR THE INFO MIKE!!!!!
@dinonoce
@dinonoce 6 жыл бұрын
That’s great advice! I’m in the market for a C7 Corvette, or a GT350, but I wanna wait to see what happens to current prices once Chev and Ford release specs on their C8 and GT500, respectively. I imagine many current Vette and GT350 owners will sell their current rides to get the shiny new toy. While I’m not a Mopar guy, I’ve subbed cause I’m a car fan, in general, and appreciate your insights.
@crankychris2
@crankychris2 4 жыл бұрын
You have the right idea. New C7's are selling at a discount, dropping used prices accordingly. GT350's are a lot scarcer than C7's or H/C's in S FL. Young Mike here was WAY too eager to negociate a good deal. BTW, deal cash only at a dealership, and buy at the end of the month. Expect to walk away from a dealer, when they call you back, then you can start haggling.
@brianmillican4985
@brianmillican4985 5 жыл бұрын
Take the yellow strips off the splitter dammit!!!
@yourejustmad9938
@yourejustmad9938 6 жыл бұрын
Love the channel, but make more River Black please.
@Industrialmodels2
@Industrialmodels2 3 жыл бұрын
You lost me at "what's good"....😅. I'm joking... seriously though great info. I just bought a 16 Hellcat and much of what you said is exactly what I experienced. I didn't realize how much I would love the HC...holy crap it is the perfect muscle car.
@domagojsimec2378
@domagojsimec2378 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question. How problematic is to park a Dodge Challenger in europe? Because i live in Croatia and i would buy a Challenger.
@derrickmcgimsey3960
@derrickmcgimsey3960 5 жыл бұрын
Man 22,000 out of 326 million people is amazing in numbers so rare they all crash before the rest of us experience it.
@BlkSpyDa
@BlkSpyDa 4 жыл бұрын
I'm finding hell cats for 47k. Plan on buying fall of 2021. What are these new designs y'all speak of?
@yargnitram4891
@yargnitram4891 4 жыл бұрын
what to remember when you walk into the dealerships,the people in there all they all want is either to put the kids through college ,they all want to live in the best parts of town,they all want to drive the latest european motor, they have massive debt from living the high life, and the worst is they have a wife who loves expensive handbags,so remember this YOU WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS LITTLE TRIP !! IF YOU DON'T HAVE CASH/FINANCE IN PLACE just bend over and take a good rogering and don't complain and get the bottom lip out,just as a note now the wide body is out and these cars will drop like a stone,and Remember FCA are such a wonderful company when thing goes wrong,check them out on the net
@bluehemi2961
@bluehemi2961 5 жыл бұрын
Great video man.. thanks for the info
@hammertime5500
@hammertime5500 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Im looking to get a preowned hellcat sometime this year
@groundzero270
@groundzero270 6 жыл бұрын
Well said bud!
@jp2059
@jp2059 5 жыл бұрын
You sound pretty knowledgeable What is the best website or other source to see what is a fair price for car your going to be trading in at the dealership??
@TJ-100
@TJ-100 5 жыл бұрын
I’m buying a hellcat in 2020 before/on my bday. I watched the prices go down on the vehicle, so yes he is right. Plus a new hellcat is coming out so of course the price will go down as well. I WILL NOT: finance the vehicle!! BUYING IT IN FULL
@j.vosier6786
@j.vosier6786 5 жыл бұрын
T J your a smart man, im doing the same thing, i was gonna get a scatpack but changed my mind, ill just wait
@bruticusf22
@bruticusf22 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Keep it coming
@thegeneral8133
@thegeneral8133 6 жыл бұрын
How about being financially smart and not purchase any CAR over sticker. How about not letting the dealer set the market.. Customers have the ability to set the market and have alllll the power THE PROBLEM IS THEY KNOW THE AVG. CONSUMER IS STUPID AND DONT HAVE THE PATIENCE TO WAIT THEM OUT...THEY KNOW THERE ARE CONSUMERS STUPID ENOUGH TO PAY 20 GRAND OVER STICKER... IF A CAR SITS ON THE LOT TOO LONG THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO REDUCE THE PRICE OF THE CAR.....CONSUMERS WILL EVEN PURCHASE 2015 HELLCATS WITH WELL KNOWN BEARING ISSUES AND THE 2018 MUSTANG GTS KNOWING THEY HAVE ONGOING PROBLEMS WITH MANUALS AND AUTOMATIC ENGINES THAT ARE TICKING OR NON TRACK PACK 2016 GT 350S THAT ARE GROSSLY OVERHEATING AND HAVE CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS AS A RESULT.. GUESS WHAT, CUSTOMERS ARE STILL BUYING THE NON TRACK PACK GT 350S ... Lol..lol..lol.. Dealers know customers are naive, gullible, and financially illiterate.
@suppressorbaffled5243
@suppressorbaffled5243 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a SRT and Hellcat over, Pink slips and all. They are a waste of money. I always wait for the hype to come down. These cars are not special.
@makemoneyonline8793
@makemoneyonline8793 5 жыл бұрын
SUPPRESSOR BAFFLED Nothing special in my opinion.
@TeW33zy
@TeW33zy 5 жыл бұрын
Dude its called they best foot forward upfront.
@kyruntyree3891
@kyruntyree3891 3 жыл бұрын
Great video n good tips on buying a car
@gary5512
@gary5512 6 жыл бұрын
Great buy
@Matt-po4kc
@Matt-po4kc 6 жыл бұрын
The cradle issue is common, Ive heard of a few cats being lemoned out due to this issue. They will wobble on highway and have uneven tire wear. a quick search on youtube will show multiple videos of people using the lemon law due to the cradle being fixed 3-4+ times
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Dillman Please post some links. I just did a quick youtube search, as you suggested, but didn’t find anything that fits what you’re describing. Curious to see what you’re seeing. Thanks!
@Matt-po4kc
@Matt-po4kc 6 жыл бұрын
Below is the most famous video of it, but ive seen a few things on the forums as well kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4Cnlqpsf5t0maM
@Matt-po4kc
@Matt-po4kc 6 жыл бұрын
definitely check out challenger talk forum as well
@TheCattledog2
@TheCattledog2 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikebythesun search lemon law hellcat
@garybaldwin1061
@garybaldwin1061 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Just curious. Instead of trading in which heavily favors the dealer, why don't you sale on open market and then go to the dealer.? Most the time you get pretty screwed by trading in. Also make negotiations very simple.
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
Gary Baldwin for me the issue is time. Selling privately could net you more money if you sell fast. But cargurus is full of examples of cars that have been sitting for months with multiple price drops, and I didn’t have the time or the patience to deal with that, let alone no shows and low ball offers. For the extra $2k I might have gotten, it was worth it to me to just trade in and have it over in a morning and be done with it.
@RandySoWavvy
@RandySoWavvy 4 жыл бұрын
Yo this helped I just decided my next car will be a hellcat after my z4 was hit and totaled. I plan on paying cash though no time for the bs financing games dealerships like to play. I’m torn between the Redeye or Hellcat but I’m pretty set on a manual and Redeyes are automatics I don’t know if the extra hp is worth giving up the manual
@jupiter22177
@jupiter22177 6 жыл бұрын
great video, great info.
@sothenisay9673
@sothenisay9673 6 жыл бұрын
If you do not have the money then don't buy the car..
@Biskawow
@Biskawow 5 жыл бұрын
I just saw a vid where you show your white 392, and you say you wish it was green lol
@Biskawow
@Biskawow 5 жыл бұрын
@Craig Griffin he said a lot of contradictory stuff in that video. First he points out how awesome the color is, then he says at the end he wishes it was some crazy color, he says he likes drive modes, then he says if he was to choose, he'd take a scat pack which is more raw (no comfy ride on that one for granny, afaik).
@XxBringBackThePastxX
@XxBringBackThePastxX 6 жыл бұрын
u said it right, they are gonna try to cheat u
@ChristianSjolander
@ChristianSjolander 5 жыл бұрын
I'm inches away from getting a hellcat. Sweden is quite pricey though so looking for the next to perfect specimen.
@scalejedi3849
@scalejedi3849 5 жыл бұрын
Have you made a video on the SRT THE HELL CAT thieves are targeting to get for parts. Will your insurance cover the car? For it's value.
@PrimetimeRU951
@PrimetimeRU951 4 жыл бұрын
Got a 2015 hellcat for 35k with 2k miles form an older gentleman during the Rona panadmemic.
@Toasters
@Toasters 4 жыл бұрын
damn
@HollaIfYaHemi392
@HollaIfYaHemi392 Жыл бұрын
Well this aged well
@incognitoguitars9999
@incognitoguitars9999 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@2amike375
@2amike375 4 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks!
@tabbott429
@tabbott429 6 жыл бұрын
Problem with hellcats and SRTs etc is everybody's got one. I prefer cars that are unique. Since I'm not rich and there's always somebody faster I don't need one of these that bad. In 5 or 10 years well see how much their worth.
@bradosanz4479
@bradosanz4479 5 жыл бұрын
Who cares if everyone has one? They're fast and have 707hp, plus are a good platform for modding. That alone is plenty of reason to get one lol
@makemoneyonline8793
@makemoneyonline8793 5 жыл бұрын
TDA DIY Exactly! I like cars i don't see everyday. I see a lot of these on the highway getting pulled over for speeding...Lol
@SRTPOWER
@SRTPOWER 6 жыл бұрын
sweet video
@jp2059
@jp2059 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@jbone79
@jbone79 5 жыл бұрын
If interest rates go up, prices go down.
@designerdodge136
@designerdodge136 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 6.1 charger srt8 I’m thinking about upgrading and buying a hellcat !!
@willieshoemaker8680
@willieshoemaker8680 6 жыл бұрын
lots of info thanks... nice car too but I would loose the R/T stripes and the yellow front spoiler guards they are on there for shipping purposes not a fashion statement lol...
@prepboymagic
@prepboymagic 6 жыл бұрын
What is opinion on a Scatpack, TA 392? I'm upgrading from my 2014 RT but stuck at my choice. I like the TA but the scatpack price is tempting
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion, while I love the look of the TA package, it is overpriced compared to what you get with a Scat. I think a better alternative is to get a Scat with the dynamics package option, which includes the 9.5 wheels and the big Brembos (which also come on the TA 392). I’ve seen that exact Scat package with an MSRP at low 40s, as opposed to 50+ for the TA. You can always add the functional hood ,the intake, hood pins and decal kit and still be THOUSANDS cheaper than buying a TA.
@prepboymagic
@prepboymagic 6 жыл бұрын
@@mikebythesun thank you. I've been watching your videos to help me with buying another car trading mines in. No lie, I got got on my RT which I love but I paid way too much for it and I was just eager to have one. I think I'm going out of state for purchase because Charlotte is kinda high it seems
@driv3n758
@driv3n758 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@chuckieg3937
@chuckieg3937 5 жыл бұрын
I have a beautiful 16 Scat Pack Shaker Plum Crazy 4000 miles babied garage kept covered no rain ect. My dilemma is I love this car and its fast. I clocked a 4.3 BUT I love the Hell cat wide body all Blk this dealer has a new 2018 for 72,000 but they will probable screw me on my trade in. My question to you is, do you miss your 392 and is the hell cat much faster in a 0-60 and are you happy with the hell cat vs your old 392.
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 5 жыл бұрын
Great question. Yes, the Hellcat is noticeably faster and more powerful than the 392 when you get on the throttle. It is ridiculously easy to light up the tires or chirp from gear to gear without even trying, much easier than the 392. In terms of cost for the added performance, for me, moving from the 392 to the Hellcat was worth it but only because I got the exact car I wanted with reasonably low miles (13k) for less $ than what your current Scat Shaker goes for new. If I was buying a new Hellcat for $24k more than what I paid for mine, I’d say it was NOT worth it. Keep in mind I’m not a drag or a track guy. Overall, I love the Hellcat and it is a lot of fun to have but 95% of the time its just like having my 392. Warning though - if you are able to test drive the Hellcat (and you likely can’t because most dealerships won’t let you), you will want to get one, as they are intoxicating.
@DiddyBop_
@DiddyBop_ 6 жыл бұрын
I see a sublime green liberty walked and bagged 2015 hellcat on PUR wheels for 64k 2,000 miles automatic transmission I kinda want to jump on it it’s been at that dealer for a year now I think I can talk em down
@mikebythesun
@mikebythesun 6 жыл бұрын
I bet you can! I’ve seen a few 2015 Hellcats with less than 500 miles go for literally $50k. Mods are great for gear heads but not for the general public.
@stepaukob
@stepaukob 5 жыл бұрын
How much would a 2019 cost you? Dealer financing is 2.9% so you might be able to get it for the same cost.
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