"Useless samplers": why do they exist?

[@thegroove2000]

Koala sampler is dope.

[@dramasticmusic6643]

My weapon of choice!

[@patrickbodine1300]

Mine as well. No issues, no kidding.

[@UhhNon]

Koala, audacity, and fl or reason 4. It gets dirty.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

Its software and that with a tablet is just as good as a modern MPC, there are not many good MPC style apps but Koala is dope.

[@johanvanhuyssteen9217]

Yeah... no hardware sampler can touch Koala... till that changes.. I'll have to keep looking at Pixels...

[@PaulOrtiz]

There's a fine line between being creatively limited, and working with one hand tied behind your back just to say you did it with hardware/without a computer. Some devices tread this line better than others. But ya know I do get it. "Toy" isn't a dirty word in the context of music. Good things can come from having fun. I think as long as we're aware of our own susceptibility to marketing, and that hardware doesn't necessarily exist to make our lives easier. Most of us can't afford to get every new, cool thing that comes out. But they're often so limited in scope that you would need a few of them to cover all your bases. At which point you've spent computer money on avoiding a computer. There are some interesting ways to limit yourself on a computer. Even if they're artificial/self imposed restrictions. Write to a 10 minute timer. Set a track count limit. Fun to try these things out! Do like the hands on control of hardware sometimes though.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I have Reason 13 but I am more then capable of creating some of My best music with the 16 year old Reason 4, its so limited but even that is more powerful and more capable then any hardware sampler, no joke. This is how primitive these physical samplers are they are literally like a old DAW.

[@PowerJoyRecords]

A lot of gear specs today are worse than specs in the 90s. It's inexcusable.

[@avolany]

As for me, I am a beginner musician and I started to make music on my laptop in Ableton, simply because I was 17 and didn't have any money for hardware. Recently I ordered myself the p-6, because I really wanted to lay my hands on an actual sampler, and MPCs or even the sp-404 are still too expensive for me. And, in my opinion, I don't need a sampler to be a DAW in a box, simply because I alredy have a DAW and I can use it for whatever my sampler is not capable of. Yes, the p-6 is filled with stupid limitations like the amount of sample and low sampling time, but these are the limitations that can possibly push me to be more creative and approach beatmaking from a different perspective. So, As for me, I don't think all samplers should be capable of all the things a DAW is, simply because for the most of the producers a DAW will bi a much more affordable and convenient choice anyway.

[@expander3710]

The reason they exist, quite simply, is portability - a knock-on effect of this is greater affordability than the flagship products. E.g. push3 and Move. I also don’t think any of them are toys; it’s up to the producer to use their creativity to make good music on the device. I’ve finished more tracks on the Ableton Move in 6 weeks than 2 years of owning the MPC Live 2.

[@dinogoldie9716]

The main strength of your "useless samplers" is accessibility. Accessibility in terms of both cost and UI. If you're rich and professionally active enough to require a production workstation that costs a thousand bucks, good for you. If you legitimately need a production workstation with all the bells and whistles for your job, have at it. Don't though disparage cheaper, more user-friendly grooveboxes and dedicated samplers. That's just snobbery. I don't nod my head to a beat because of how much your Mom and Dad paid for you to make it. I don't sort my favourite albums in ascending order of the price of the gear used to make them. As a disabled person, your MPCs/Pushes or whatever would be a very expensive and actually "useless" paperweight to me. The Circuit/KO2/Liven Lofi12 or whatever are instantly accessible and usable for me.

[@studioplopmemes2985]

These are exactly my thoughts. Is the mpc live and the roland sp-404 better than roland p6? Yes, of course am i gonna spend 400-600 bucks on my first sampler that i don’t even know if i like the workflow? No, are you absurd

[@errorkit]

✌🏼 Millennial here. Grew up with FL1, no money back then with 13/14 for MPC or Mixer - got into Maschine about 2018 and fired up 10 beats per day - now with almost 40, I buy Gear since 2018/19 - as you said. The Process is the Progress, not the Finished Beat or Track. Finished so much Beats and Tracks, dropped LPs and Songs back then on Myspace, then SoundCloud, then KZbin, then spoty ... so yeah...I'm old now and I just want to twist Knobs, check new setups, tune the cable management behind the gear or under the desk and just relax in the evening when the world sleeps. Rockin' a small Elektron/1010 Setup with the Expressive E Osmose - dawless and unconventional grooves - but that's exactly my approach. I don't want to make HipHop or House or whatever - the Gear always drives me into 1 or 2 Genres - the actual setup changes my music genre everyday, and that's sth I enjoy rn - everyday sth unexpected, because back then, we all wanted to sound like dilla or Dre or Slipknot or DJ Shadow or K&D. Today I make Music offline and record it on my 1010bluebox, sometimes I record a Video clip to remember what Gear I used^^ wow that escalated quickly - thanks and sorry for that backflash 😂

[@heavysystemsinc.]

I feel like this rant was akin to 'Why are you using pens to ink your drawings when brushes provide much more variance in line width?!' Because for that style, line width isn't important, precision is. Etc. etc. They're not useless, they're clutter-free for a certain workflow.

[@MarkusAudio]

I still welcome them "useless" samplers and romplers. When you Love Music making but you live in so-called 3rd World, where you can't afford a simple ATM card, but have relatives who can afford to bring you a PO-33 in the low end of the suitcase (unbroken), you might as well squeeze the juice out of it. 😊 I still cherish my faulty Volca Sample and Akai MPX8, and thinking of flashing my V8 soundcard samples. Limits R Us!

[@MastaKraftprod]

limits R us! I really like how you stressed that, agree and sign to your slogan! And I guess its a wordplay on an American toys R us famous shop, cool:)

[@Drrolfski]

Ableton Move and MPC Live 2 user here. Don't call Move a proper sampler because it's not. It's purposely designed as a one-shot sample and synth player. And in that it's actually more intuitive vs the MPC Live 2

[@expander3710]

I agree - Move is not a sampler at its core, it’s a synth groovebox with some handy sampling capabilities.

[@noir4356]

I've had tons of samplers, from vintage to modern. And despite all limitations, I cannot rant too much about the KO II ep-133. It's been the quickest thing to finish a track for me. I see no reason why not using it professionally. When the MPC 5000 came out, legends like DJ Muggs admitted that they didn't even use half of the features the machine provided. I've had a similar impression from the Octatrack. It's a monster, a beast, it can do it all etc. However, I've never needed its granular synthesis, single cycle waveforms, stutter-delay-tape-stops or super time-stretching abilities, because it wasn't my taste at all. However, it still costs around 1200 Euro. Why even spend so much?

[@bonwowo]

same:) i worked a lot on mpc 1000 and different devices and i couldnt complain about ko ii. it is beautifully compact, easy to use after getting muscle memory and i can just play and dont think. i love playing at it before sleep, because of how i can play just basing of feeling. its something that makes me more happy to just play without menu diving too much. i like my sp404mk2 but it is better for me for working in studio or making it to play live on stage. same with mpc. i even think to sell digitakt and get model samples to have more tactile playing, because i found last times that i love it most to just play on equipment like on any instrument. thats i think why many people like more limited but steaight forward devices. i wouldnt say at all that they r useless, they r just instruments to start tracks or make sketches without thinking so much.

[@Pixel_Track]

I am also a millennial, and I have quite a lot of "toys" - Push 2, SP404MK2, Roland MC-101, and Roland J-6. I also had a Microfreak and a couple of Volcas, but I sold them. What I noticed is that Push 2 and Ableton really boosted my productivity (I don't play piano, and Push's scale feature is very handy), but the rest of the devices actually hindered me - the learning curve and all related things. Now, they mostly collect dust. I use samples very rarely, mostly composing music myself, and maybe because of this, a laptop with Ableton is better for me - I can adjust notes, try ideas just by drawing chords, and so on. But I really enjoy the dawless process. Just jamming around without the intention to develop the idea into something else. I completely agree with you about stopping arguing with people - if you don't like dawless and prefer a laptop and Ableton - good for you!

[@playeveryday01]

SP404 was a big game changer for me. I use it everyday and plug all my instruments into it. Band in a box lol. But it's true when I have a good paying job I went nuts and bought the stuff I could never have when I was a kid. Now im done, found what I liked and will be getting rid of the rest.

[@_boof]

Bro I’m glad you made this. I have 2 MPCs and a 404 mk2 and I barely use them. I did when I first got them. The hype died down and I realized my DAW is more capable and pushes me to get things done. They simply look cool on camera imo.

[@patrickbodine1300]

My sampler is not useless. And it doesn't use a DAW. My sampler is KOALA. For $10 USD it will do all that I need.

[@Unaqer]

the answer to the question of why they keep making limited samplers is probably that they have overproduced components for stuff like that in the past. and now they try to sell them off as new tech. same for synths and other gadgets probably

[@BigMuff520]

I have owned many of these “toys” you talk about. I learned that I should have just bought a MPC to begin with. I spent more and couldn’t do as much. Nothing beats the MPC for me.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

Same. Bought a Circuit, which I still love because it got me into hardware, then a Polyend Play Plus because of the hype (never again) and then finally got an MPC One which was a comparable price to both but had way more features and felt like I could actually make full tracks with plenty of options.

[@NoiseCommander3DS]

My misconception is that more midi instruments equals more productivity but I can't really operate more than two machines at once.

[@billiedoesbeats]

I started my toy collection with the MPC One Retro. This is after not making music for like 10yrs. Before that, I only did music in Ableton and Reason which was great and I was able to complete full songs with vocals and all. But when I came back to music after 10 yrs of silence, I decided I just wanted to have FUN and not sit staring at a computer screen for days and days like I used to when I was pursuing a career in music. Now I'm a grown up with a career and money, and yes, I want ALL my toys and I don't care LOL. I got the SP404mk2 next, then the KO2, and now the Ableton Move. It's fun, its a hobby, it's a stress reliever after long days of being in a high pressure high responsibility position at work. I think the MPC is the king and it has EVERYTHING, but more limited things like the Move are just genuinely FUN to use. It's all about what you're trying to do. Hey if you have the $, go for it.

[@omegajackson]

Late Gen Xer, i started in the early 90s and come from a gemini sampler, right now I have all 4 mentioned and Maschine and the ableton move is fun, i can throw it in my backpack and make beats at work or in the car, load the beat into my laptop. Its all in the user.

[@chanayda]

Got the ep133 and its brilliant for sketching out ideas Not easy carrying a fully specced desktop around just to lay an idea down

[@thewesterj]

An MPC 60 is limited in a modern sense but shines as a sequencer. I use it to control all my bad gear. Limits are in my head mostly. Hell I just started using program changes after 20 years. That said my sp 202 has been used on every project since 98. Still learning new things.

[@baltimega]

I wouldnt put the circuit rhythm is this category.

[@fiufiufi]

What you say is very true, I bought the sp606 to complete a larger setup for that reason.

[@Farold_Haltermeyer]

It's common to hear the "it doesn't work for me, and therefore must be a failure". As someone who uses samplers out of necessity I've had to kiss a lot of frogs to find the winners but they're VERY specifically matched to my usage case and tastes. If the winning hand you're playing to flag the inadequacies of the other plastic slabs is that it's better then question why they sell and get used instead of your all-singing, all-dancing slabbage

[@home-studio-improvement]

The Internet is visual. The way to promote your music is through social media. Nobody wants to watch you make music on a computer. Unless you want to take your chances amongst the millions of artists (and AI) on Spotify without releasing any video on your process. Personally, I think hybrid is the best way. Currently, I'm DAWless going into a Zoom recorder, using each device's sequencer and playing live, but I am working on a new computer build.

[@ritchxmusic]

One of the biggest things is why they are in mono - that to me, for production is beyond ridiculous. It's 2024.eg. Digitakt and Novation Circuit rhythm

[@claypipemusic]

Lots of stereo samples can lead to a very cluttered mix

[@noahporter4487]

I got a circuit rhythm to pair with my small semi modular setup as a drum machine, which is actually what it's marketed as. I really think that's the point of "grooveboxes". They're not workstations like the mpc or elektron stuff and I don't think they should be. There's a line between ease of workflow and ability that makes it hard to merge the two. I like being able to have sounds at my fingertips that are fast and easy to get to, but I don't want to have to screw around with arranging and doing fine sound tweaking on a screen that's 1/16 the size of my computer screen at twice the cost lol. So much of electronic music is related to workflow, experimentation and happy accidents. Unless you're doing a lot of live work, don't see the need for a bespoke machine that can do everything.

[@ManCalledMif]

EP133 is the most immediately powerful and accessible MIDI sequencer I've ever used (and i have ableton live 12, arturia krystek pro and beatstep pro; also had but sent back the MPC X software version 2 as the workflow was not for me). I always try to learn more and maybe I will use the bastl MIDI looper soon (have owned it for a couple of years now.

[@claymorecuts87]

I enjoy the process of making music more using hardware. I like my cheaper grooveboxes and behringer clones of classic hardware. It's affordable and fun

[@pauldemelto6650]

What you're missing is that limited tools are not designed for hobbyists to NOT make finished tracks. The demand for them exists, as it did in 1997, because midi setups combining limited system devices in tangent is an extremely powerful, modular, responsive, adaptable methodological approach to creation. The "big" guys you refer to are the money making, drivel manufacturers who've destroyed music. Creative people don't seek the easiest workflow in EVERY situation, because for them the production process is artistic and emotion-driven. "Producers" who approach production as a motivation to simply produce acceptable product for sale and temporary or commercial consumption are naturally not interested in anything that doesn't afford the easiest, fastest way to come up with a catalog of "finished" material in a day. You acknowledged yourself that the "big guys " and millennial (?) producers create prompts rather than music anyhow. That's the reason they have no use for tools that go in a toolbox (a physical studio) and require a lot of work, know-how, and experimentation to create work that is impactful and feels "finished."

[@lnknmusic]

I have had my fair share of samplers and have tried out many different workflows over the years. I agree with many of the points you make here, but the fact is that everyone is different and people will vibe with different devices. I'fe been making music for half of my life, sample-based music is my jam and I make many different genres, I personally can't stand the MPC's. I've given them a try on several occasions, most recently the MPC One, I owned an MPC Live 2 sometime last year, an MPC 1000 a long time ago....I've never felt less creative than when sitting in front of one of those machines. I don't know why, and believe me, I really wanted to love the MPC, especially with all the recent developments. MPC's are on fire right now, but again, I couldn't even bring myself to want to turn it on most days. I used Maschine for several years and made a lot of music, played a lot of shows, generally loved my time with Maschine. I got bored with that though as well and sold it a couple years ago. Since then I have been trying several different samplers and music production devices and I've landed on so many that I never would have thought I'd ever like, but that I will now never sell. I think it's important for people to try new things. Surprisingly, in my opinion, the best music I've ever made has been with Koala Sampler alone on my iPad. I also love the Async Sampler app. Two of my most recent songs were recorded in just that app, and they're my best sounding songs. It is all about having fun though, which is why I keep my hardware, and why I can never tell someone that my devices are better than theirs. It's all about how they're used. Thanks for your video bro, I appreciate you.

[@warius1]

You make 1 mistake: modern MPC’s and ableton controllers are extremely wack vst-controllers.

[@cresshead]

if you have a box that you are creative with - that's a result worth the price of entry. i have MPC ONE SP-404mkii EP-133 KOii all are very very creative/fun to use and i get songs finished on them all.

[@dezem7]

I have an akai force at home and a few synths + mac. I have a Polyend tracker mini for ideas away from home. That's about it.

[@keithlane4705]

just feeds gear acquisition addicts, and youtube creators desperate for content. if you need shiney toys for inspiration it's not going to lead to good music.mediocre music at best as you will be constantly fighting new workflows.

[@VJFranzK]

when you find the right workflow, it cooperates with you instead! but the challenge is to decide from the available options

[@keithlane4705]

@@VJFranzK Playing a violin is an extremely unnatural posture coupled with an awkward learning curve, does it stop it being a good workflow for the sound ?

[@theedxqboi]

I bought an SP-404 Mk 2 in April. I miss my Emu E6400 Turbo. The SP is still for me a sphinx.

[@redbirdsaraceno]

Great video ! I like your style.

[@MastaKraftprod]

thanks a lot! glad how my thought and ideas resonated with you

[@sam_bibly]

why do affordable things exist when superior things already exist at a much higher price point...a question that neither needs to be asked nor answered

[@CeruleanAscent]

Not sure you mentioned the performance potential of these devices. It's not just the merit of a production tool (although it is fun to produce with limitations and different workflows. I only have 1 hardware sampler (SP404) although some synths i own can also act as samplers. The SP404 is a fantastic creative tool, you can also line up music and perform with it, not just in terms of mixing tracks, which it can also do. You only need to carry the SP404 and a lead once you've set it up how you want it... And the on board effects are exceptionally good.

[@CeruleanAscent]

Oh and great video by the way, thanks.

[@eddie_arcadia]

With me the hardware is a good thing ,i love the pc daws its just you always end up getting a new computer something failed or crashed things wont boot up it starts running slow with the mpc just take the sd card out turn it off or reset your back in the game no beats or samples lost you got everything

[@pauljs75]

I guess they're alright if you've got enough expendable money to throw at them. But the more sensible approach these days is to just get a half-decent MIDI controller that you can hook up to a laptop or Android tablet. Even budget or free software can do the job better than anything that cost top dollar in the 1990's.

[@MastaKraftprod]

oh yes, I so much agree with you! however... do we agree that most of the "best tech & quality" stuff today barely competes with the trashiest sound and equipment from the 90s but god, those tracks were so much better!!!!!!! wu, tribe, rakim... stop me, i can go on for days😀

[@Schemez-16vhiphopbeatz]

iv got the mpc one+ the novation circuit rhythm. and the ko33 ..and the mpc is the only one i use now but still love the c.r i wanna get the sp404 mk2 next

[@markszili2577]

I'm not really much in to samplers, I'm gen x and much prefer a combo of hardware synths with sequencers and MIDI controllers for my DAW. So in effect the DAW is the sampler I can just do just Mouse and DAW as it does not feel like I'm creating it just feels like my IT day job of clicking and dragging and cutting and pasting . Sure I'll still do that once the project is near finished but even then I have the MIDI Control Surfaces navigate the daw.

[@antonmatviichuk4787]

Buying the OP-Z taught me that there's no way around the DAW. It's a cool little box, but one month and I realized that most of effort goes to fight device limitations, not making music. I never tried the MPC (Force / Push / etc.), but I expect even the worse experience. At least I can use OP-Z on the go, in a bed 😅or during blackouts. But in the studio, a PC with mouse, wide screen and unlimited everything leaves it no chance. Probably there's one more thing about artificial limitations: Feeling that I'm less capable than my music setup may be uncomfortable and frustrating. I think this is better be worked with therapist.

[@KiLLUMiNATii]

Because consumerism… gotta buy them shiny gear brah

[@opticalman6417]

hardware gear is good and sounds great but its a pain in the arse life is much easier to use when you just keep it to using software on a computer

[@loksync]

For fun, timing and the sound.

[@Eklektos_Filandos]

Limitations actually are a breeding ground for creativity. Then again i dont know if they are limiting because of this or is it just an excuse..

[@MastaKraftprod]

unfortunately nowadays i feel there is "limitations for the sake of limitations" ideas... the hell why? My guess is that they want to sell us nostalgic workflow. something like: Jesus suffered, now you suffer. Beatmakers of the 90s suffered and THUS they had such cool tracks now it's your turn no, selling silver bullet or magic pill doesnt work like this

[@loneerv]

Yea, Circuit Rhythm is definitely NOT in the useless category. Maybe to you, but have you even checked Gabe Miller Music’s channel? This dude certainly makes the Rhythm no so useless.

[@yvesdropBeats]

Great video and opinion on this subject. These are boutique samplers. I think fun is the key with these samplers. I had the PO33 and also my MPC LIVE II and the PO was fun to use while I was away from home.

[@floydhopkins7901]

Clicked on this thinking the opinion was the mk2 was useless, glad not

[@just.an.dutchguy]

Blah Blah Blah......what's your point?

[@chrisjackson7064]

Yea bring a MPC live 2 on the train lol

[@JohnBaronian]

Its as if I need something more than Audacity... Nonsense!

[@hasan7786]

Price and owning hardware. The End.

[@alecsbuga]

Ha. You missed the OP-XY

[@kingaccra628]

i love the toys

[@brainbox9219]

It doesn’t matter what you use to make music if that said hardware has the ability to export stems (which most groovebox and samplers have that feature) because you can then just take the audio content and do whatever when it’s imported into a DAW, that’s a workflow that I use that works for me, after having the ability to do that, anything can sound professional, i used to rack my brain around this topic as well and in todays world of computer and software advancements, there isn’t any superior way to make music, just preferences, so this video kinda pointless imo

[@GM-qz9fo]

.. and why is our attention drawn so much to them? Er.. Because of videos like yours?

[@zuekiin]

With your arguments then why would anybody need a sampler at all be it an expensive with all bells and whistles or a “cheap” limited one? With your arguments we all should just get a computer that can do it all way more than any of those you mentioned. I think the lesser cheaper option is for those that don’t want to break the bank and still have some fun with a capable sampler. If anyone is serious about their music production these cheaper limited samplers are not ment for them in the first place. You can have the same arguments comparing a Mercedes S class and a Nissan Micra. Is all about your personal needs.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I don't know but there is no We here, I'm not drawn to any modern physical sampler they are all nowhere near as powerful and capable as a modern average laptop and a DAW. People say they want to get away from the computer but the sampler its its self a computer. People say they want to be DAWless but the software on these devices is a DAW. People say they want no screans but a sampler with no screan is so limited it might as well be a midi controller lol. People say they dont want distractions from social media or gaames while they are using there DAW but they could just keep that stuff off of there production laptop in the first place. Nearly everything I here modern sampler lovers say basically is nonsense to Me just being honest.

[@SlickGriminals]

No way the sp is a heavy hitter when the P-6 has a superior sequencer lol

[@bonwowo]

the problem with p6 is sample limitation and global sound parameter, not per track. i didnt use it but it is something that holds me back - i would be worried to mess with sample without thinking. maybe there is sample protect function, but still its kinda bummer. otherwise it looks (and sounds;)) like incredible machine.

[@user82938]

@@bonwowo There's a filter per track, which the SP doesn't have.

[@kirkstate]

The limitations is what makes it great

[@eddie_arcadia]

Not really because every beat you make will hit the same wall every time And you will always have to cut back or change something you will never be able to add more ,so your only fooling your mind in to thinking your being creative

[@Melodic623]

they exist because people buy them obviously. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

People fels orphaned and soulless without their devices outdoors. You showed some big devices in the beginning as being the real thing. but you shopuld have taken them outdoors to show and talk about them. That's where all these portables come in. The meet the need to have gear at hand outdoors (whether sensible or not). People pull their wallets for promises, not for actual practical purposes. Take the train, go on a boat trip, visit your famiiy with your favorite big devices and you'll see there's a market for these useless samplers

[@LAGENIUSMUSICA]

I dont know much but i am addicted to music since i am 4 years started with guitar than e guitar then band, at the age of 15 i was djing with a kaos pad i looped the track was playing and get the other track slowly coming in was fucking incredible because you could mix dircet from youtube also you could use your handy to play the tracks with youtube and record 10 sec from every site while its playing. i trie to make music and produce with laptop,pc i have inevsted 1300 for my first laptop at age 16 worked the whole holidays and bought a real dj mixer from numark but i dont feel this shit because it is limited creativity you have to download first make ordner, but cues on it blahblah blah. I cant produce with shit like that i need to make it live need my whole song playlists that are more than 400 with each min of 200 tracks, every genres and make something out i want to loop a 5 sec part for example from a hip hob track or only the drums, take vocals from mj , take a bonobo souly instrumental track with less drums to build on it and make my own from it. I tried so often sampling with pc i have also a mk2 88 native instruments piano but its shit you cant sample with pc without a mpc or sampler you have to destroy the track in little parts and try hard like playing on a instrument with the pads, even you use only 1 sec if it fit and its nice take it , drums from old very old hip hop i mean the time before nas ,the ice times when the drums almost destroy your room because they are so in your face and powerful, i connected in the car of a girlfriend from me and played a track from Cool C the car only was vibriting because of the bass, after the she connected again with this nowadays baby techno without a rhytmy and the power of a radio song even if you change the cars euqalizer because something that is produced on computer never can get the power and the fullness like a track witch is produced analog.I hate these nowadays the music plays but dont get in your body its like a food without spices fuck all the computer "producers" they can only copy a template every genre has his own if you learned this you can produce also high level, everyone copies each other everything listens the same espacielly in dance musik, or its fucking shit like hardstyle or the shit house with shitty sound and no real rythm even if the rythm is the most important in house music, only blalblalbla in your face shity tracks or the most played tracks also really bad fit together because they choose complet shit you can mix every genres together and live in club but you have to be good and need the right instrument like a looper or something, i can to this play kanye west, a kraftwerk track also 2 differnt EDM songs from different genres and different centurys and let all play the sane time and its like one song is playing or its a mashup you only have to know what songs plays witch role every track in this example is like a instrument, kanye west vocals so it has to be the loudest, kraftwerk is for sampling and playing life a rhytm with the drums also to make the signs that the beat is changing wiht looping , or play cues , the 2 edm tracks dont matter only should have not extrem differneces of bpm you can also use a hip hop or 70s track soul and play it faster so, the only important thing is one of the edm songs has to be clear without hard drums and plays mostly in the background to create this fullfillment around you nearly cant hear it only feel the frequences and bass, i wrote to mutch with a lot mistakes in writing but i give a fuck i am 24 years and do this my whole life i dont know music theory, compression or all this shity programmer skills what numbers how looks the sinus curve no no the kick is perfectly on 1,2,3,4 becvause they are only copying and writing shit a real drums fit and everything sounds good but every recordes or played sound is not 100% perfect on 1,2,3,4 or the piano plays one note longer becvause this is real music it is a kind of art a hard progress to learn to play life to produce life to combine and hear if something dont fit and directly have the answer, to combine different genres becvause you can combine them in your head and hear like they could sound together, you know when the ryhtm changes , the time the hook is coming. And you dont have to learn theorie from youtube i am really connected to music its the most important things and got my theough all phases of my young 24 life, and helped my like a therapie, no matter what happend in my life,. The real musicians and artists they parctize music since their childhood with a few years, and play maybe a instrument , it is enough to hear sounds listen to music if you do this for 15/20 years you dont have to learn all the theorie shit or the right mixing strategy or what google what bpm a song is, because you can hear it feel it and make it fit because you have 15 years more experience then someone who start making beats on laptop with 16.🤣🥲

[@johnscott8955]

First time I saw one of your vids, great commentary and opinions on the topic . I look forward to watching more.

[@theguacamoleman6019]

I love my seqtrak

[@VJFranzK]

Good commentary, AI beats will be a thing. (exactly what remains to be seen) I agree! that MOVE is puzzlingly underpowered, (vs 404, etc.) and yet why will we still perhaps buy it? Partly because it links to Ableton, and they aren't likely to make another for a long while. Another Question: Will MPC ever deliver a mini device also? as was rumored months ago. I wonder if I should hold off buying for more MPC options to arrive... (I will have a video all about Ableton Hardware devices soon.)

[@bonwowo]

why you think Move is so underpowered? it has big sample memory, big sound design possibilities and sequencer superior to 404mk2 one. i understand that you can get more versatile workflow on 404, but for me it is just as good as 404 while we talk about specs and possibilities.

[@LAGENIUSMUSICA]

@@bonwowo 404 the is compact stand alone no shitt daw fuck needed you can play the 404 like a instrument and not sitting on table and programm music like a video game you can hear, correct , life creativity is more possibilites the drums are hitting harder on your basic speakers you bought fucked expensive studio monitors because evertime it sounded like a radio use the 404 one time and you realize its because you use the pc and not because of the speakers.

[@asleep909]

I find an irony that you're wearing a Gangstarr shirt...considering that many of Premier's best beats are the simplest. "Ex to the Next" is literally 3 samples total. Or "Take it Personal" from that same album is an extremely simple arrangement. The power in limits is that it requires a user to think differently about the nature of sampling-instead of sampling 'phrases' you are looking for 'loops,' which will take up less space and show off not nnly your creativity, but also maximize what you, the producer is capable of. EVERYTHING is useless if you don't use it. In order to commit tracks from an SP-12 to a digital medium? It has to be recorded in real time. In the audio realm. That workflow may seem just simple 'nostalgia,' but it also pushing back on the idea of unlimited sample time (which I'd have fought someone for in 1993) and it fights the notion of having everything without limits. Sometimes, those guardrails/boundaries are how new things get made.

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

Your comment is in no way relevant to the material covered in the video. It appears you failed to follow the video in any meaningful way.

[@VigilanteWilliamson]

Koala FTW

[@MastaKraftprod]

koala is a monster! this is the best option for portable beatmaking using samples

[@anreoil]

You are comparing apples to oranges. Little Rolands are toys, literally, and priced as such. But there is a market for them, teens (or kidults) who don't need 'serious instruments'. You wouldn't compare Barbie to a true to life silicone woman, would you? These toys look cool, aren't user friendly, but the learning curve teaches them something that may turn kids into pros. In other words - they are useful, just don't consider yourself the target audience. Just relax, and watch how this useless garbage gains iconic status among the future generation. I mean - we are sampling old Casio toys for their iconic sound, and using it proudly, so don't kid yourself. And besides, sometimes a noob with the talent and a cheap synth (which he doesn't even know how to use properly) may challenge the Top Gun of music industry in terms of popularity. Jean-Michel Jarre vs Darude, now that's an inspiring story.

[@MoneyMitch-AceDuece]

Let's just wait a few year until AI creates the samples automatically for you through your neuralink. The kids won't understand why you use FL studio or a "mouse"😂

[@hasan7786]

Wearing a Gangstarr t-shirt in a video called useless samplers? Should have worn a different shirt:)

[@matthewgaines10]

DJ Premo used a MPC.

[@Slacquerr]

You never even mentioned the most useless sampler of them all, the Octatrack.

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

Had both the MPC and Octatrack, while the MPC was easier to work with, I preferred the Octatrack, mostly because of the sequencer Now I mostly use iPad with Drambo and some plugins

[@koalemos1679]

Omg Based. The new MPCs aren't good for live shows unless you have 2 of them. Everything else is gospel.

[@eddie_arcadia]

See that's the thing they don't market as a tool for that so saying what you said makes no sense and keep you in the buying loop looking in a market that won't keep you

[@bonwowo]

o, im curious what is a problem with new mpcs to use just one live? im not fan of them but it surprised me, as i played a lot of lives with mpc 1000 with some synth and mixer.

[@koalemos1679]

@@eddie_arcadia Homie. There's literally 2 versions of the MPC called MPC Live. But ok.

[@koalemos1679]

@bonwowo The synths don't sound very good and they can't easily recall presets. So you have to have the same sounds for your whole live set or you have to manually change sounds for every song. Or buy 2 and just have every song be its own project.

[@eddie_arcadia]

@koalemos1679 wow that's new to me thanks I been doing this for over 25 years and didn't know that

[@frankie5671]

I come, from. Hardware started in the early 90s I just use software it's easier and less hassle. I do like these little toys to just make some. Kldskool house it's just fun work si work fun is fun