Usher's Brutally Honest Criticism Put T-Pain Into A 4-Year Depression

[@dboi4952]

T-Pain had his own lane and it worked for him. The problem is everybody and their mama tried to ride his wave.

[@SilverSkywalker]

Exactly!!

[@dehjhunaeday5743]

They didnt try they did

[@aprincencarolina7289]

Usher used auto tune himself OMG 😱

[@Lamar0305]

TPain brought flavor to R&B and put his own twist on it. He called it Hard&B for a reason. He put out good music and everybody had him on their track. A lot of great singers still broke through and did their thing.

[@joy-115]

I agree!

[@Rodnyet]

It's not T-Pain's fault other artist couldn't find their own style.

[@AfricanGirl]

true. they stole his whole sound even after him!

[@Yonnie2436]

Exactly

[@intellectualnature9512]

People are going to copy wherever the money resides

[@seph---]

@@intellectualnature9512 😂

[@tommieterrell82]

@@intellectualnature9512 lol 😆 tht part

[@217ShowOffBoii]

Crazy thing is T-Pain can actually sing so he is a real singer. Autotune needed T-Pain not the other way around. Believe that.

[@nicifclean]

Autotune is not needed period

[@KillerBee300]

@@nicifclean But I like the sound of autotune

[@realsinceday1632]

I’m glad somebody said it

[@bombay3201]

And he can really rap

[@carloselom4461]

Respect to tpain

[@seliahh9451]

Charlemagne was sooo rude to Lil Mama when she was on the show. It was horrible & disgusting the way he treated that young lady. The worst part was he knew she was grieving the loss of her mother but his apathy wouldn't allow him to relent. My heart went out to her completely.💖

[@Whatithitfor]

Yeah but he was not being critical he was just bein mean lol

[@Cofitube94]

Sometimes it's the subtle jabs that he doesn't realise is hurtful. I remember him asking Lil Yachty "how does it feel being the poster child for whack rappers"

[@Nappy2theRoot]

@@Whatithitfor that's the point she was making

[@92cgray]

Omg you’re like the only comment addressing that. I really those would mention that instead of talking about his child crying in a private moment. Like dude you made a grown woman cry on your radio platform.

[@92cgray]

He was mean to that Logic guy one that interview I don’t even listen to his music but I felt like cussing Charla out for being that rude. A couple more but he was the first one who came to mind.

[@CJ-py8ns]

Its not T-Pain's fault its everybody else's fault who accepted the ppl who came after him doing the same exact thing there should have only been 1 T pain, as there was only one Roger From Zapp but this generation of music is too comfortable with sounding the same. You couldn't just steal somebody's whole style and swag in generations past, these days everybody is the same.

[@karlitosway7474]

BINGO bruh. Originality is dead

[@lperkins06]

100% agree

[@Vr_Demon_]

Roger had passed and Tpain picked up the torch. Only one Roger and only one Tpain. Tpain was our generations Roger. Completely agree!!

[@cesaraguilera-herrera9490]

Facts. Everybody is a clone now in the music industry

[@AfricanGirl]

true. they stole his whole sound even after him!

[@kingnaldo4058]

It's not *T-Pain,* I would blame, instead it was the 20,000 other artists who copied his style and run with it. It got to be too much... Real Talk🤔

[@chyname]

A lot of these younger rappers, mainly mumble rappers took it and ran with it

[@advanced8998]

I would *blame* it on the Alcohol 🤣

[@karlitosway7474]

@@advanced8998 you mean lean lol

[@SilverSkywalker]

I agree! It wasn't T-Pain! It was everyone else who ruined it. No one said anything about Future, Wayne or Kanye tho and they overused it heavily! Everyone else just stole his concept. Shout to T-Pain and the originator, Roger Troutman!

[@Mike-ii1vz]

@@karlitosway7474 you missed the joke cuz lol

[@marcusrileymusic]

t pain is a living legend. also, no one artist can ruin music... lack of stylistic diversity and weak songwriting and everyone hopping on the same type eats is the issue i promise you any pitch correction software was NEVER the issue. most of everyones fav music wouldn't exist w/o it lmaooo

[@citylock2012]

legend is a strong word

[@hailiesbong2734]

Legend? Calm down

[@marcusrileymusic]

@@citylock2012 Like it or not he's an innovator and has numerous classic songs that you can play anytime anyplace and everyone will recognize or be able to sing along (can't believe it, im sprung, but you a drank, in luv w a stripper) - his legenrd status shouldnt be in question

[@citylock2012]

@marcus Riley YOU MUST BE YOUNG AND DONT KNOW WHAT THE WORD LEGEND IS. LETS SEE IF PEOPLE REMEMBER HIM 20YRS FROM NOW.. EXAMPLE... STEVIE WONDER, PATTY LABELLE, NAS, RAKIM, BIGGIE, TUPAC,.

[@UPxYOURs2]

@@hailiesbong2734 nicca he the reason everybody using autotune and he been using it since 05 and it’s still relevant till this day not to mention all the hits he got so how is he not??? 🤔

[@limitbreaker9797]

This wasn’t criticism. To say someone fucked up all music, is not good criticism.

[@MrShaheedone]

Right!

[@melissalitus8879]

Usher broke him down and could have voiced his opinion in a better way. You don't bother someone when they wake up and tell them this BS smh he been feeling some type of way towards Tpain

[@elliot2177]

critism is critism whether good or bad.It is perspective

[@tierahoward874]

Exactly

[@thechynajayde4492]

Right

[@JupiterChild96]

I hope Tpain knows he is adored by the world. I hate when people project their insecurities onto others🙄😂 that was pure hate, cause how you turn around and make ‘OMG’?? Just sorry...

[@spiritualqueenvibes6661]

Omg I just literally commented under another comment before yours and I just said that Usher projected his negativity onto him! That's why you have to watch the company you keep because everyone is not your friend !

[@AfricanGirl]

true. they stole his whole sound even after him!

[@carolynmurray6099]

Some people can't take truth

[@chacesimpson2856]

we are only getting one side of the story

[@imlissa]

🎯

[@CJ-sz1pw]

Man t-pain is the only artist to use auto tune right

[@crews-lj3ph]

Yes dude is trash

[@htownandre7385]

Roger Troutman was the goat

[@crews-lj3ph]

@@htownandre7385 100

[@keithhill6813]

You are absolutely right! He’s the only one in this generation to use it for what it’s made for

[@a.v.london1952]

@@crews-lj3ph he was relevant for what was going on at that time!

[@SeleniumOfficial]

This is SUCH a good discussion about giving criticism.

[@MansaMusa100m]

Faaaaxxxx

[@Haitiangaming214]

This not being honest. This is hating y’all in the same field n you saying he messed up music .. buh t pain paved the way n has hella hits … usher was low key hating on him

[@sharlogan92]

Usher was being a hater. Period. T-Pain is a GOAT. Literally every one of your favorite artist uses even a little auto tune. I guarantee Usher uses it too.

[@mikebratton2751]

Do you know how stupid you sound ?? Usher wants a a GOAT…TPain he’s mediocre at best and Usher will never be a hater on TPain

[@sharlogan92]

@@mikebratton2751 I probably sound stupid to you and that’s fine. Usher used every ounce of auto tune on that stupid ass song he had with Will I Am and on everything else after that, that nobody listens to by him anymore. Meanwhile T Pain is an actual GOAT who influenced an entire generation of music. Music I’m sure you yourself listen to currently. Whole time Usher mad because everybody can make music now and you don’t have to just have a pretty face and a pretty voice to get a message out. NOW you have to be an artist. You have to have a pen. You have to have something to say. Which is why we’re seeing a resurgence of T Pain now and....where tf is Usher? Exactly.

[@sharlogan92]

@@mikebratton2751 and I’m sure you are at least in your late 30’s early 40’s writing some stuff like this. Have a good day tho ✌🏽

[@MZHARDBODYENT]

@@sharlogan92 I agree he was dealing with his herpes simplex diagnosis & the fact his album after confessions didn’t do well so he definitely was projecting & needed someone to dump on.

[@Lance-bg3hn]

Usher had 10x more success than tpain so no he isn't a hater . He was brutally honest, yet I enjoy tpain. It was ushers opinion

[@JordanCann]

Let's also blame the labels for pushing non-singing artists and then also the fans for consuming mediocre music. If the fans ain't buying it, the labels won't push it.

[@courtsohsodivaable]

Facts!

[@Whatithitfor]

Let's donot get confused usher is really referencing r&b🤣 the singer's🤣

[@AfricanGirl]

lol. true. they stole his whole sound even after him!

[@Nappy2theRoot]

Facts

[@p_vic_7]

What killed music was the death of R&B. Everything went pop. Even hip hop to a point

[@NoahLebeau72]

Even Usher went pop

[@Rojomoto405]

No it's back because now we have Giveon Ari Lennox Brent Faiyaz SZA Smino Jhene Aiko Drake Chris Brown 6lack

[@NoahLebeau72]

@@Rojomoto405 We still missing those big voices

[@S1lverArr0w]

@@Rojomoto405 And aside from the 2 Artist you didn't but should have named (HER and Jazmine Sullivan), which of these R&B singers is SANGING???? Cause im tired of this "Vibes" and "Mood" type R&B music. The instrumentals are overpowering the image and voice. There will never be another Mariah, Whitney, Faith, Mary, SWV (Coko in particular) Amerie, Brandy, Monica etc. All singers who could blow acapella....

[@sandersra9036]

Secede-ing generations stopped growing up on *old-time* gospel/blues and traditional choral singing where singing stylistically from the soul was necessary for any kind of success. That's what did it. They were raised on technical, poppy R&B and gospel. And young kids trying to mimic Mariah and Whitney's impossible style of singing (their songs are hard to sing live day after day for hours even for them). Aretha Franklin, Mahalia Jackson, The Clara Ward Singers, Otis Redding, Marvin Gaye and Sam Cooke are some of the best *pure singers* to have done it.

[@amajorthemusician]

If Usher thinks T-Pain messed it up for real singers, somebody should check him on what he thought about Roger Troutman and Zapp with what they did back in the day. These guys were around even before there was an Usher. Real talk, T-Pain was not the first to do Auto-Tune. #foodforthought

[@mik2627]

True. But no one else copied that technique at that time. And that's what made Roger stand out. When T-Pain recreated it, ER'BODY jumped on the auto tune wagon this time. It became oversaturated in the industry.

[@amajorthemusician]

@@mik2627 Bingo!

[@musix2009]

After Roger there was no one doing until TPain came along..soooo did HE alone effed up music?…Not the many alleged singers ?….. No one playing instruments and bringing band music?…and let’s not forget the many many many people who enjoy this music,because if they didn’t he wouldn’t be as successful as he is…

[@chi8772]

How about they all deserve some blame in it? Blame the artists who overdid it, the music/radio executives who pushed it, the masses who bought it and thereby sidelined the real singers and then the people who created and popularized the wave. Everyone gets a piece of the blame

[@amajorthemusician]

@@chi8772 UH! PREACH! 🙌🏾 💯

[@wrightwrva]

He woke him oit of his sleep, summoned him, then told him some BS. It was cruel

[@ZzzZoned]

oh my god, dont kill me. That guy is something else...

[@caseready1660]

That was some real hater stuff. There's a lame for everyone. Everybody just hopped into music and it was easy for them but it got boring. But t pain was the future and they didn't understand how to adjust with the movement so they had to blame their shortcomings on someone, or something.

[@kerichobani7198]

BIG FACTS

[@austro8086]

I can't believe they spent so much time avoiding to say Usher was a Jerk and was wrong for saying that to T-Pain.

[@MrCamwilliams7]

T-Pain was ahead of him time & everybody else was living in the past.

[@k.anthony2399]

People got tired of the Gerald Levert, Ginuwine, Jagged Edge, Boys 2 Men era. They needed something fresh.

[@anthonytaylor7928]

@@k.anthony2399 maybe genuwine but not the rest of the artist u said

[@commandershepard485]

The fact that CTG screamed “that was terrible “ to his own daughter has me dead 💀 😂

[@dchan9190]

Sounds like Knick fans

[@Sequoyah991]

T-Pain actually has a beautiful voice. Smh some “friend” Usher is. I heard (saw) T-Pain perform live at the house of blues in Orlando in 2011. Man! He can sing. Let’s not forget he performed live on the mask singer with no auto tune and won. Usher sounds like a hater. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@gigisgucci]

Usher is a hater. Sounds like he had his own insecurities going on. Music has always changed over time and evolved into other things.

[@MZHARDBODYENT]

Facts

[@MZHARDBODYENT]

He was bubbling with herpes at the time too 🙄🤣

[@gigisgucci]

@@MZHARDBODYENT 😂

[@thechemi5083]

Nahh Not really, there's too much wack shit going onnin Music these days. People using autotune and trying to play it off like they can sing. If this was 40 years ago not even half 9f these artists would stand a chance because realistically they have No Talent

[@gigisgucci]

@@thechemi5083 ZAPP ROGERS did it before their was a T Pain. And if he wouldn’t had did it, somebody eventually would’ve

[@jbrooks27262]

We know he didn't intend for people to follow his singing footsteps, without really being able to sing. You got it T-Pain

[@hollybryant6475]

In all respect to Usher, he is like a thousand other r&b/pop artists. He hasn't changed music (temporarily or not) or had an entire movement copy him. T actually changed the way music was produced for a good number of years. And though he wasn't the pioneer of autotune he damn sure made it popular, even if unintentional.

[@AfricanGirl]

true. true. they stole his whole sound even after him!

[@jiujitsujayJay]

Holly that is absolutely not true! Usher is a musical Icon! U gotta b really young?

[@hollybryant6475]

@@jiujitsujayJay I'm quickly approaching 40 and an Usher fan. I'm not disputing his iconic career. Im simply stating that he has not changed music the way that TPain did.

[@limitbreaker9797]

Facts!

[@jordanjohnston7255]

Honey Usher is a one of a kind GOAT. There’s no Chris Brown without Usher. Usher set trends that R&B artists try to copy today. Give more respect to a real all around artist/performer. T pain is acne of a kind but not near ushers level. Put some respect on that. MJ LOVED Usher. How many people does MJ love?

[@sinmilitant8189]

Roger Zapp didn’t mess it up for singers. They had to come a lil harder and did. Sounds like excuses

[@big662]

Facts.

[@johnnylovescondiments6593]

If Usher would’ve said that to Roger & Zapp, they would’ve jumped his ass facts

[@sicarresupreme]

Usher didn't lie but the crazy part is t-pain can actually sing.

[@mysticIvy324]

Yes, he has a very nice voice 👌

[@lperkins06]

It’s decent

[@DiDie43]

Big stink bowel movements with 🌽 corn in it....he can sing

[@remi2206]

Thank u for sayin this

[@Nappy2theRoot]

Yea, he lied

[@2centsfreelancer]

I realized I used to come off as aggressive. I honestly didn’t know, cause my intentions was always good. I have gotten a lot better, but it’s still a working progress

[@afrosnmimosas8681]

Soooooo many people can’t be honest with themselves and self aware. Kudos to you for the growth

[@melissalitus8879]

Wow that's great. You are changing for the better and being accountable

[@darylebrown6292]

Keep it up

[@2centsfreelancer]

Appreciate it y’all

[@trinab.9633]

Whom asked Usher anything, he should worry about the shit he has done and go thru, who died and left him king, Michael didn't, he was being a nasty ass person, period.

[@Starr0010]

U talkin bout Usher

[@trinab.9633]

@@Starr0010 yes I am...

[@RonnieGorotto]

These guys are like children. Envy literally thinks he’s really a gangster.

[@mwambak1438]

@Ꭻ.Ꮶ ᏴϴᏔᏞᏆΝᏀ What? Smh

[@MyWilliam41]

@@mwambak1438 Don't know about the other part but he is CORNY though

[@AndreP1524]

Usher Fd up raw diggity sessions too smh the nerve

[@notthefather3919]

🤣

[@Sandalphon13729]

I knew if I kept reading someone would finally say this!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jadexo_6491]

💀💀

[@RobGradyVO]

people say he ruined music for real singers, but Tpain is an amazing singer without the auto tune. he just wanted to sound like a robot.

[@afrosnmimosas8681]

I’m saying! He can belt out a ballad with the best! He’s one of my favorites

[@caseready1660]

How can you hate someone that studied to gain the gift of the sound of a whole generation. He's more the uncle of music than anything.

[@kameronbryant1341]

Music is about the sound and entertainment. Its up to the consumers to pick what they want to listen to. At the end of the day let entertainment be entertainment.

[@yus6078]

I hate when people call in with no self awareness

[@claymusicoff5663]

No one is talking about how your “honesty” could just be wrong, in toains case, factually wrong

[@marquesekj]

Aren't u doing the same thing as usher? What makes your opinion a fact? Could in fact your "honesty" just be wrong?

[@TheIcemanthomas]

@@marquesekj he literally just said the same thing ur saying. He clearly was including himself there. He didn’t say your not including me.

[@spiritualqueenvibes6661]

Exactly but people don't ever consider that they might actually be wrong at times for example when someone tries to give you advice when you didn't ask. From listening to the video T pain said that one day his friend Usher came to him saying that he's concerned and Tpain is like about what? And Usher says your F***** up music and Tpain is like what? Huh? What are you saying? I didn't hear them say that tpain asked Ushsr for his advice about anything Usher came to him and projected his negative thoughts onto tpain which is what ultimately caused tpain to be depressed. That's why you have to really beaware of the company you keep.

[@spiritualqueenvibes6661]

@@marquesekj It's a fact that you're slow!

[@92cgray]

@@marquesekj his opinion is a fact if you look at Tpains sales and other artists who did make a profit off of auto tune. I get what you mean but the statement above isn’t really all of his opinion he added facts to it.

[@classditcha3121dug6]

Usher knew what he was doing when he told him that, Pain took over, just like Pain did in Naruto

[@bibbotyty4209]

😂😂😂 how is t pain like pain bruh

[@classditcha3121dug6]

@@bibbotyty4209 lmfao idk I'm high 🤣🤣

[@bibbotyty4209]

@@classditcha3121dug6 LMAO bruh you wild smoke a fat one for me

[@OFFICIALREGAL]

🤣💀

[@LOCDLIFE]

USHER WAS HATING... BECAUSE T-PAIN BLEW UP FAST! USHER WAS LOW KEY HATING. BECAUSE USHER HAD BEEN SINGING SINCE HE WAS A YOUNG KID ABOUT 12 OR SO. PERIOD. T-PAIN BLEW UP OVER NIGHT!!!!!😀

[@irockline]

Envy LYING. He sensitive AF lol

[@Nyny.1000]

Beyond 😂

[@DavidRichardson95]

Usher said that _after_ the fact that his last biggest hit had Auto-Tune in it and helped _that_ album do numbers after his last album didn't sell as well as _Confessions_ did. Pain's catalog is unmatchable. And everyone and their mama doing exactly the same shit, but not as good or ever as good as T-Pain.

[@omartyre]

Right... OMG (a great song) is auto-tune like a mofo

[@AfricanGirl]

exactly

[@jordanjohnston7255]

Unmatchable??? “My way” “8701” and “confessions” is the triple headed monster

[@DavidRichardson95]

@@jordanjohnston7255 _My Way_ to _Confessions_ is his best work. And before you say anything, Pain and Usher are two _different_ artists.

[@Artressa]

People should've learn to mind their business ,after all the negativity given to Chadwick.

[@IAMHIM4040]

Drop yo mic

[@simonsez1787]

I appreciate CTG’s honesty and atonement for the way he’s hurt ppl with his words. Thas solid.

[@chocboywunda]

Usher started using auto tune shortly after that in a few of his songs

[@DaRealestme]

That’s what he said auto tune fucked it up for real singers so that’s why he had a song with auto tune

[@Sunny_dayz.]

@@DaRealestme using auto tune is a choice and that’s what they chose and tpain can sing his ass off so I’m not sure what he meant by “real” singers.

[@sandersra9036]

@@Sunny_dayz. According to Keyshia Cole, it's not always a choice. TPTB at labels sometimes make it non-negotiable.

[@jdagrees9609]

Yes and it sounded horrible lol T Pain is a good singer , I’ve heard and seen him live . He had zero auto tune

[@UpperJeuno]

I disagree with Usher 100%. I don't need to expand any further than that.

[@Madaragun]

Before T-Pain, we had several boy bands and and Real signers where R&B was really R&B. It took actual skill to actually be signed to a label and if you couldn't sing and hit them high notes, they wouldn't even look your way but now all you need is a following and "ok" singing skills mixed with auto tune and you can be famous overnight

[@btoehonest333]

Ever heard of Zapp and Roger.

[@Nappy2theRoot]

Had nothing to do with tpain

[@k.anthony2399]

You still had real singers from that era. It just fizzled out. T Pain was a genius because autotune was a new trend at the time. And it worked.

[@Power-1Thouzand]

@@btoehonest333 Those guys used a talkbox similar to Stevie Wonder. RIP Roger!!!

[@btoehonest333]

@@Power-1Thouzand true pioneers and nobody criticized them

[@QC777]

People used to think I was pregnant, but I was actually suffering from fibroid tumors that made my stomach huge! In the name of Jesus, I prayed so hard that those tumors would never enter my body again!! I also started taking better care of myself.

[@jacobTheeCreole]

T pain’s music was amazing especially in the beginning of his career not even talking singles !!! His writing and singing style is amazing especially when he started ! And he can actually sing without auto tune

[@kerrajohnson3203]

And Usher's herpes f'd up his bloodstream. Anyway T-Pain's auto tune did not ruin music! That critique doesn't make any sense.

[@infoage265]

Aw wow that was funny.... good one

[@tipsandtricks6071]

Not to be rude but did yoy know that the cdc documents that 48-50 of "sisters" have herpes. Be safe out here.

[@tierahoward874]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Nappy2theRoot]

@@tipsandtricks6071 because they get it from men. NEXT

[@k.anthony2399]

Exactly. Usher was fading away and Chris Brown was taking over. He was younger had better dance moves and can sing. Even Ne-Yo was that guy back then.

[@nickynicki7625]

I’ve learned tact is everything 💚

[@ronnietoni819]

I’m very disappointed in Usher, he’s too old to worried about somebody else especially it’s coming from a place a hurt.

[@BreaneNic]

I truly like Usher as an artist. He’s pure talent, but he’s cones off as a jackass if he said that. I haven’t seen the interview so I’m basing it on this video. Anyhow, I hope T-Pain is in a better headspace now.

[@Honest000w]

Train said it on Netflix too. There is a documentary

[@FooltheMane]

I dont believe t pain messed up music, he actually made it better. theres a ton of artists that cant sing but have great music. Autontune gave those artists a lane to make their music and make it sound good with tuning it up. There is nothing wrong with that, and this is from an audio engineers viewpoint.

[@mckenzie.8653]

Meh. If you can’t sing on pitch without technological help, you shouldn’t be a singer.

[@Saysonow]

@@mckenzie.8653 The mere fact so many people hating on Usher tells me how far removed black people are from our high standard of singing excellence.

[@tbrightideas42]

Usher was jealous, and Charlamagne is monster according to his victim.

[@dr_shawntad]

Basically, Kindness is key. Being kind to someone stems from a place of consideration, helpfulness, and (most important) honesty.

[@dubstepbreakersghost3737]

A 4 year depression…? Could have made a sick comeback with them lost years. Sheeesh!!!

[@echad6259]

Years though? Pretty pathetic to me.

[@DubThaGod]

@@echad6259 you also don't make music for a living

[@allyouget4960]

Depression is real

[@echad6259]

@@DubThaGod you don't know me? What a stupid comment.

[@miakaelvira9556]

He did release music but since he’s independent the promotion isn’t the same

[@powerbad696]

Somethings don't need to be SAID,there's a whole chapter in the bible about taming the tongue.I remember when I was in the navy,I was walking and talking to one of my bosses,he was an E-5 and I was an E-3 and he told me he thought this other sailor in our division was better than me.I was instantly pissed then defended myself and let him know other petty officers I thought were better than him.After that when he would give me assignments to do I'd half-ass it or take a long time to complete it.I served in the military 20 yrs and never ever told another service member I thought someone else was better than him or her.The best leadership I did was listen and be quiet.BE mindful of your WORDS and how you say them.

[@KM-iz6sg]

It’s called constructive criticism. Also, it’s not what you say, it’s how you say it!

[@LOCDLIFE]

No.... That wasn't constructive when he said he fucked it up..... It's how we say things. Usher copies Micheal Jackson & Bobby Brown. NOBODY is criticizing him.😀 He was low key hating on T-Pain coming up period.

[@DonyaLove17]

There’s a difference between criticism and then just being flat out rude. He said “u fu$ked up music etc” that’s just rude.

[@nellie15]

The fact that Usher had the audacity to tell T Pain that then went on and use autotune afterwards.... that's just Evil. The one person who fucked up music was Usher when he introduced Justin bieber to R'nb.

[@Cofitube94]

Charlamagne pretty much built his career on being brutally honest. I appreciate the personal growth but he's not one to talk on this matter

[@futura9126]

Good on y’all for giving this one a way more appropriate title than the previous video on this topic.

[@trinab.9633]

T-Pain has been on so many records, projects etc., he was in a greater demand then Usher, who asked him for his effin opinion.

[@SirCentex]

I see his point of view Ushers influence is undeniable and his words matter sure that hit T Pain hard

[@jeffreyabbey9592]

Society needs a SELF ESTEEM Bootcamps for some of you it seems For real for real

[@ladawn26]

🧐🤦🏽‍♀️ See this is the very reason why I don’t care to share my thoughts with people... smh they want conversation & claim they want honesty from you HOWEVER they can not handle the truth! I can have the biggest smile with the nicest tone... 🙄😶🤷🏽‍♀️

[@mrdmcarter]

T-Pain did a lot for music so much that a lot of artists today sound like him.

[@0808sumire]

Someone in this industry HATES Usher!

[@jeffreyabbey9592]

Some take your breath away with their talent Some just entertain with their talent Use your senses people!

[@KrayzieAries]

As someone who's been hurt a lot but also needs & respects truthfulness... I come at the people I love with compassionate honesty I change how I say things depending on the person but I always say the truth .. it's possible & should be done especially if you want a relationship with a person friend or loved one

[@dannyt7269]

It’s the music industry effing up music. Now it’s a bunch of Mili Vanilis. Singers that look good and can dance but have no musical talent.

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Facts

[@LOCDLIFE]

FACTS!!!! YES THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO GROUPS & BANDS. WHY PAY SEVERAL PEOPLE... CUT THE COST SNATCH ONE!!! AND BAM NO MORE GROUPS!

[@poloteam8366]

T pain had a hell of a run I remember the year he won every award at the award show he kept walking up to the platform in slow motion savioring the moment. Who needs enemies when you got friends like usher to hate on you and destroy your energy stay far away from ppl like that period

[@eddiegurley820]

I'm going to "honestly" say that what T-Pain did for music is nudged everyone to "step it up" in multiple ways as it pertains creating a new sound, allowing for anyone to trailblaze to the next level with it. But instead, folks looked at T-Pain's sound as "the new wave to ride" and then exhausted the pleasance of it because the music game and talent scene became too'OO oVerLy-SaTuraTeD with it by choice. But the problem with today's music industry and talent scene is that EVERYONE KEEPS choosing to SOUND THE SAME BECAUSE NOONE'S TRYING TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN IDENTITY in this thing. So unfortunately, we have folks continuing to either sound like what T-Pain was doing or an overly remanufactured LiL-Wayne or Drake because the idea of stapling one's uniqueness of originality is not in the bundle of seasoning of what the music game desperately needs or should taste like. So sadly, anyone whose blind to this would say what Usher said. No shade to Usher. His honesty is great but I cannot agree with his statement towards T-Pain because anyone whose been watching and listening with no distractions knows that T-Pain is one of the best things that could have ever happened to Da' GaMe!!! Fa'ReAAL!!! I have a lot to say concerning this because who really "F'd up Da' Game" was this new school of so-called exec's and managers who's more concerned with dolla'Z, checks, chart-numBa'Z, credits & placements rather than making sure that the sector of "ARTIST DEVELOPMENT" remains a crucial factor of priority within the system and process of what it takes for an artist to have a CAREER-HEALTHY SHOT at delivering "REAL🔥ART" to the listeners, viewers and overall masses and not tossing "niCK-NacK-PaTTy-WaK'" of mixtures of mumble-rap-flow and calling it REAL HIP-HOP when really all it was doing was totally disrespecting while unhealthfully challenging the talent and foundational standards of what Real Rap is (or sadly, w((A))s. Infact, if anything, T-Pain saved the game by being the Roger Troutman (Computer Love) that today's music industry and talent scene still needs Soo badly. All that being said, I still say proudly T-PaiN is still a key element in his own earned right, that the game needed then and still needs now. Plus let's not forget that T-Pain can actually sing tremendously without Autotune which is why this is one of the primary reasons his use of autotune was and still is and will forever be "Da'BesT of'Em aLL.

[@deeharp]

Why Does this Convo Sound like they are talking about Kevin Samuels?

[@mauriceanderson9007]

Usher just repeated the same thing Jay-Z said

[@crews-lj3ph]

Yes I agree auto-tune kill hip hop

[@UnsilencedOutspokenTikTok]

The blame Teddy Riley too then

[@limelight58able]

@@UnsilencedOutspokenTikTok - that's a reach; No one in the 90's used the vocoder like Teddy did, and even then, he didn't use it ALL THE TIME, in all of his songs..

[@UnsilencedOutspokenTikTok]

@@limelight58able most west coast artists had auto tune influence in there records too. I'm sayin if folks wanna blame one man they need to start from the beginning.

[@crews-lj3ph]

Damn y’all just skip me wtf

[@mstenderonie]

At least Usher had the decency to pull T-Pain to the side. I’m so glad he didn’t say this to him on social media. It’s all about etiquette for me.🤷🏻‍♀️

[@the_essence1985]

Usher and T Pain in the next VS

[@essteex4656]

Let's gooo!!!!

[@christchickconversations]

Tpain already did vs.... he was in the beginning of the start off... Low key they should do a redo for those who started it.

[@Peace1Love]

There is a difference in being blunt and being direct.

[@melissalitus8879]

You can be blunt and respectful. I don't like if someone criticize me and make me feel worthless, if I am already down don't hurt me more smh. Keep it real with me but don't disrespect me 💯 just my opinion

[@devonazeem2810]

T-Pain never had a bad album T-Pain always been the GOAT

[@cloverleaftv]

Your friend honestly put you in a 4 years depression 😂😂😂😂 I cant

[@RCBCook]

Music changes everyday. That's like saying Hip Hop ruined music

[@glockseventeen233]

HIP HOP DIDN'T RUIN MUSIC AT ALL . _TRAP MUSIC_ RUINED HIP HOP . 💯💯💯💯

[@tonysparks9453]

But auto tune ruined hip hop though, FACTS.

[@jwia007]

I just used your link thanks man, We were looking for some good products

[@kaybrown7733]

This is so true! I've been saying this for years. After his success every ray ray and lil lose neck thought they could do it too.

[@notthefather3919]

Is that his fault tho? He's an innovator. The copycats ruined music.

[@kaybrown7733]

@@notthefather3919 It's not exclusively his fault but he was the begining of of this auto tuned bs.

[@mikeindiamikeindia4109]

I Feel Like If T-Pain Didn't End Up Getting As Big As He Did , It Wouldn't Have Been A Problem 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@AC-ql5gb]

The tpain hate is OD. The man gave us HITS. And didn't do crazy sht to make us ashamed of him.

[@ArchAGabriel]

One must also be careful ; sometimes people will be critical because you are an edge better than them ..

[@peprallying]

That’s not honest criticism that’s an insecure opinion.

[@MZHARDBODYENT]

Exactly lol

[@LPRambo6]

THE FIRST GUEST A MENACE 🤣🤣🤣

[@kimmiet1980]

Charlamagne, I thought he changed when he made Lil Mama cry. I guess that did nothing at all for his soul.

[@melissalitus8879]

Facts

[@k.anthony2399]

Lil Mama was really speaking facts. Especially about women becoming sex dolls. But people were so mad at her for getting on stage with Jay-Z and Alicia Keys.

[@giadahmiller4948]

…how is it you cannot get over what Usher had said. Usher is now seen wearing a Barbie Doll outfit 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@ginoissac8009]

I saw that performance which was fire, but couldn't focus since he dressed like a broke down Disney princess.

[@kovenkhaos]

It's a thin line between real and fake.

[@jamesriley5911]

Auto tune was before T Pain...Ushe was wrong..Roger Troutman introduced auto tune..T pain reintroduced it to a generation that never herd of auto tune

[@canyouplease]

Either envys friends aren't actually real with him or they are and he never listens.

[@marcguess8493]

We were Known As “The People With Deep Feelings” “those Who Feel Deeply” Cant remember the name but it was A Name describing The Black Race

[@DRACOFURY]

It's kinda true Auto Tune is like steriods for artists *Anyway give Tpain his flowers 💐* He reinvent a style that was long forgotten *Zap* 🙏🏿 I love Tpain he may have bad spending habits but he is DAMN good Musician

[@zer0cx110]

Honesty , people will get there feelings hurt over simple stuff. Girlfriend : can we talk ? Me: no. FEELINGS AUTOMATICALLY HURT

[@beautyan5309]

I feel for Tpain but the issue is deeper the usher he must of already had low self esteem and other people words like harsh criticism made it harder but it definitely wasn’t usher that set him into 4 year depression

[@nalokitten]

Whenever people say they are being " brutally honest" it means they are being terrible people...It's not that hard to say something honest without tearing someone dow.....And those same people can never handle it being said back to them....

[@kennyhumble3699]

I don't think T Pain should have cared what Usher said! He should of taken that as a compliment! Usher was just hating and throwing shade! Usher is rich, been rich and been winning all his life! So its kind of sad that he would say that to another brother that's winning! Did Usher want T Pain to feel sorry for him? Or did he want T Pain to regret making it big/changing the game? Stop playing! Shame on you Usher!

[@miakaelvira9556]

It wasn’t just usher though. Usher was the beginning of the backlash t pain received from the public

[@nflfangirl19]

🎯

[@kennyhumble3699]

@@miakaelvira9556 well in this video T Pain is talking about Usher not the public! Nobody should ever listen to the public because the public never know! I'm pretty sure the same public that bashed him, was the same public that helped him make it big!

[@km2460]

I hate when people call being mean/bullying honesty. The truth most of the time is brutal enough so any added attitude and meanness is unnecessary in my opinion.

[@triley82]

I love The Breakfast Club

[@-amosc.presley-7192]

SAME💋

[@DRACOFURY]

*Me Too* I like the Box 97.9 anf Hot 97 I love the breakfast Club

[@MonaSymoneATL]

TPain said it was a myriad of things that contributed to his depression. This just happens to have been one of the things to have been said before his depression began, or before he noticed it. I think many people fans, industry folk, y’all forget these people are human. Treat them as such. You can be real and empathetic. Balance.

[@jarellwall3960]

wait so, anyone going to mention that Usher was wrong, and likely a hater in that moment, or the fact that it was Snoop Dogg that made it more accessible for other artists to rip the style?

[@tonysparks9453]

He was right, music is dirt now all the way around.

[@jarellwall3960]

@@tonysparks9453 oh so your the sucker huh? I can give you some recommendations to bring you in this decade

[@tonysparks9453]

@@jarellwall3960 trash is trash and today’s music is just a remixed trash version of the stuff we used to listen too. Recycled trash.

[@jarellwall3960]

@@tonysparks9453 I ain't mad at you big dog. You just listening to the wrong shit. You oughta hit up SIR, if you are talking about R&B. There's more music than ever homie, get you a Tidal or Spotify account and explore