Using A Phone As A Cycle Computer? You Need One Of These!

Hello, welcome back! I get asked a lot of questions about cycle computers. One of the most common is...can’t you just use a phone? In today’s vlog I chat about when they are good/bad. If you want to use your phone as a cycling computer you would probably prefer it to be mounted to the bike...so something you’ll need is the Quad Lock phone case and bike mount, genuinely an awesome bit of kit!
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[@robinjapan1463]

Phone over a cycling computer all day ever day mate! Strava with a Bluetooth heart rate monitor lets you do any training you want. I commute 3 hours a day by bike and don't have any probs with the battery, if you're having battery issues you probably need a new phone! Awesome vid mate!

[@teeambird2079]

Completely agree. My iPhone 12 is a couple of years old and still lasts 4 hours on a ride from fully charged. I never usually do rides that long without stopping somewhere in which case I can bring a small external battery to charge it.

[@imramugh]

I also have a small top tube bag with a power bank that allows me to use my phone without battery anxiety.

[@BrianRPaterson]

I've got a Quadlock set up, with the sticky adaptor on my phone rather than a dedicated case. Very secure. BTW: No case means no poncho. I been using kitchen cling film too keep the rain off. Also works good.

[@gvnrchmnd]

Top tube/handlebar bag with power bank. Keeps your phone going for longer rides.

[@sambam007]

Totally agree, once you use a bike computer you understand why people buy them. Can go off on a 5hr ride , and bike computer will still have lots of battery left showing your routeand connected to your sensors. Try that with a phone and it will just drain or overheat in summer (tried with a phone with 4000mha battery even that didn’t last on a 2hr ride)

[@GiorgioCoppolaCycling]

The amount of time I spend on my phone, using my phone to track rides as well my battery would be none existent... thats the main reason I use a bike computer and you don't have to worry about them when the weather is terrible but do like the quad mount for Zwift looks like a great bit of kit may invest....

[@Vince1648]

For navigation only, so far my phone still beats any cycle computer. Simply because the screen is so much bigger and sharper. Used to have a Garmin but now I use a Sigma Rox 12.0 for my training. But for navigation a certain route I much prefer apps like Naviki on my smartphone. I use a small bag on my top tube specially designed for holding a smartphone. Enough space in the bag to add a power bank so I have extra power to last forever.

[@BruceChastain]

For me it depends on what I'm doing. 95% of the time it's just phone in pocket with strava on. If I'm really training, my go to is my shanren Di Pro, I really just need it for the speed, recording gps and hear rate.

[@Garynewitt]

I’m sold! Quad lock ordered.. Purely based on poor eyesight I need one.. I struggle to see my garmin so this is perfect. I’m in my 50’s I rarely train I ride.. phone gives me all I need.. cheers Dave.. great channel

[@nickviney3236]

Exactly this and you won’t regret. Got handlebar mount on road bike and stem on gravel/winter bike, attach to whichever and can read on the go. Had Strava issues up here in the Lakes when phone was in my pocket, not since.

[@JaqueParisien]

Like a lot of other avid cyclists here, I have also been using quad locks on my bikes for years now. Very useful and handy. Nevertheless, the GPS on the phone uses up energy quite fast and your phone battery will die in no time, especially if you ride using the step by step feature on Ride with GPS for example. That being said, owning both a phone and a bike computer is the way to go if your budget permits it. Thanks Dave!

[@RobWhittlestone]

HI Dave - I have a Quadlock case on my phone and mounts on my everyday ride, my mountain bike and road bike. I'm still looking for a GOOD FREE APP to use on the iPhone. I don't want to pay a subscription or buy an app. Do you have any suggestions?

[@DaveNoakes]

Hiya. Definitely check out cadence app.

[@paulcardsfan]

Map my ride does everything elevation laps spits tracks you heart rate average speed grafs for workouts.

[@markjthomson]

My phone battery is not great for longer rides... like 4 hours... turn by turn voice is good.

[@abritandhisbikeinpoland6802]

Strava is enough for me, I can see over time if I'm faster over 100s of different segments that I know! I'm not a professional and never will be, and I just dont get amateurs stressing over power meters and all that mumbo jumbo, you are all probably retired lawyers with too much money and time on your hands!? Vo2, Threshold, normalised power, actual ,tempo, zone 123, functional threshold, RPE, Watts, HRT zones, blah blah blah. Well nobody had P/meters when we were kids, and now you got some money you wanna know why you are slower, well its cause you are older, and no longer a fit young child who rode for fun, remember those days? lifes too short

[@sifi7950]

The one piece of advice I have about using a Quad Lock on your bar or stem is if you’re attaching your phone whilst riding, it is worth giving the phone a pull after you’ve clipped it in to make sure it’s secure. I have managed to clip my phone in at the top whilst the bottom of the phone was not locked in place - my fault entirely but a valuable lesson learned!

[@kurtstephen9464]

Thank you, brilliant review, thank you for telling the #Truth without all the hype... I'm thinking that the new Samsung Galaxy Z5 flip may also give you that #Batman feel... Small, 007 spy no body knows you even have it on you... I also love riding with my PODIUM® FLOW 4 BELT 4L WITH 620ML DIRT SERIES BOTTLE no chance of it falling off and I love that feeling that the knowledge is there... Thank you for this brilliant review, #LetsRide and you know we all would love to be #Batman so the tool belt feel is really cool...

[@DaveNoakes]

Thanks

[@BruceChastain]

I've never used the quad lock, but I've always thought it was a good idea, but I'm too cheap.

[@bikeroutesofdorset3311]

This was me until my phone mont just broke going down a hill so I just got it and honestly be decision I made

[@paulsslightlyactivelife]

I've used QuadLock since they first came out and swear by their grip. Have hammered down rutty bridleways on my MTB and it just doesn't budge. I used to use a phone to track, but battery life of a proper bike computer can't really be matched, and now the phone mount is mainly to keep the phone close at hand and out of my pockets.

[@nicholasfulford209]

Yes the phone looks way too big on the bars like that, gone are the days of using a Avocet or cateye cycle computer with a wire & magnet off the front wheel 👍

[@tonyhands-heart1057]

i use my phone for commutes & bryton 750 for seriuos weekend warrior stuff :)

[@mandopando68]

I do use my iPhone but have ordered a wahoo computer

[@adrianstockton5675]

One app i use is the wahoo fitness app. it shows your current speed, distance time and if you have wahoo power meters and heart rate monitors you can connect it and see your data live. i would highly recommend the app

[@DaveNoakes]

I will check it out

[@marcelguarachi]

Do you know what accessory you need to attach a garmin computer to a quad lock?

[@DaveNoakes]

I don’t think there is one

[@peterweber4094]

Never take my phone with me. Just an old Cateye wired cycling computer. Strava is probably going to change that for me?

[@Se0what]

ahh depends on what you're into really. the main difference is you get cadence with the cateye vs you get to share your ride online if your into that kind of thing. If not, then you kinda have your answer.

[@tarantedong]

I have Quadlock. I connect my Garmin speed and cadence sensors to the Wahoo app, and my phone becomes a capable cycling computer. I still haven't upgraded to a dedicated cycling computer because of Google Maps navigation on the phone.

[@damopope4664]

Was thinking of getting a quadlock, my work phones a motorola and the battery lasts for years lol

[@grumpy-dad3701]

I've got a wahoo element. But I tender to use my phone more than the wahoo. It's a lot easier to use. I don't really need to track my speeds, cadence, power, just need it get me home. A power bank is always handy

[@DaveNoakes]

Good set up. Im not sure if my phone would last long without a power bank.

[@grumpy-dad3701]

@@DaveNoakes that's the first thing I bought for my 1st bikepacking ride. I checked my phone more than my wahoo.

[@fazidinamir]

Quad lock does its job holding the mobile phone securely. So far it has been good for me. It is convenient as I'm able to see any incoming text or phone calls or notifications whilst riding.

[@akaxju66er]

I got a Quad Lock mount with the GoPro attachment. Best purchase I've made in years

[@philippamalone2388]

I’ve been using a zip tie to mount my phone to my stem for ages but my husbands just treated me to a Garmin so I’m super excited 😝 my phone dies so quickly, I’m buzzing to have both now!

[@NotARealChef]

Note 20ultra with RokForm mount. No issues with battery life, typically ride with music playing on Bluetooth speaker in bottle holder to let pedestrians on trails know I’m coming.

[@robinmacandrew103]

Why can’t the navigation apps pair with heart monitors and power meters? You’d have thought it would be so easy!

[@DaveNoakes]

I’ve also wondered that

[@robinmacandrew103]

@@DaveNoakes If they did, they would add massive functionality and resulting revenue. And the likes of Quadlock would see a substantial increase in sales too. Just don’t get it!!!

[@ohrodrigs7970]

Quad lock is the best

[@gazza5155]

Cycle computer for me.

[@stujohn37]

I have mounts on two of my bikes, I’ve been using a quad lock for a couple of years now.

[@nenadonatella3036]

I use a Garmin smart watch, better for mountain biking. If you do mount your phone your bike/moto bars it might we worth investing in their vibration dampener. Phone cameras hate vibration and I destroyed my camera on a a few phones that that way. Prob a bigger deal on a moto.

[@timoakley277]

I use a phone. On a quad lock in front. For about 3 year an 10000 miles now. Why? Because i am too cheap to buy and maintain another device. Benefits of a phone - cost saving. Better, bigger screen. Drawbacks - Rain! Battery life can be an issue but not too bad. I use it primarily for navigation, leading rides.

[@WheelersAtLarge]

I rode across the UK in 2019, st David's to Lowestoft using my phone but really wish I'd had a cycle computer. Having one now I know it would've been so much easier👍Made it work but phone really wasn't up to navigating 100 mile days.

[@jrsuk1170]

I just use my phone (in my pocket) because I'm not a serious rider. I've not been able find anything trust worthy enough to hold my phone on the bike - might this a go if it's not daft money. 👍

[@CitizenlXl]

It's totally secure. I use one exclusively with my phone

[@jrsuk1170]

I just went on their website and put everything in my basket that I needed for the bike, plus a wall mount and it came to near £70.00. I thought I can't pay that just to hold my so I went on eBay and got a phone holder for £3.49. I may live to regret this.

[@Roger101Watson]

Quad Lock is excellent I wouldn't choose to mount my phone for fear of damaging the delicate camera and the stabilizing capabilities with all the vibration from the road. Plus the fact I can barely get a day out of it now let alone mounting it to my bike for a 4-hour ride! Nah Think I'll stick my Karoo2.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

For those complaining about phone battery life and weather resistance, maybe time for a new phone. There are plenty nowadays with large batteries and IP68 rating.

[@Ken419_]

Bike Computer >

[@trygkouhlmann6643]

I would worry too much about crashing and destroying my phone the wahoo is clean simple and crash survivable Thank you for the information

[@charlesmansplaining]

I'm working on getting the Garmin EPIX Sapphire watch. I can't really find the bike computer I want. My Edge 830 is getting worn and the battery is barely lasting 4 hours now. I don't like the new Garmin 40 series computers. Bike computers are really difficult to pick because I want Di2 compatibility, size matters, and no touchscreen again. The watch seems to be the way to go because it will work with the Garmin Vision which I already have. Hopefully it will work with my Radar also. The Vision display is right in front of your eye where you don't have to look down at the computer and since I'm older the computers are hard for me to see so I tend to move closer to the screen for longer times which is unsafe. Even though I always have my phone with me I don't want to use it as a bike computer and would rather just keep it in my pocket.

[@danbuac1156]

I just use my phone as a amateur rider. I put it in my pocket and pull it out when I don’t know where I am. I wouldn’t ever use a mount for my phone as it would just be far too big and wouldn’t risk damaging it. However, when I do save some money I would like a computer

[@downundermtb4744]

We have the quad lock on all our bikes,very interested in a bike computer as longer rides the battery won’t last.Also we find inaccuracies between Strava and the computer on the Ebike.

[@stretch4666]

Purchased 2 Quadlock mounts last year! Best thing I’ve bought in a while. I use ViewRanger for exploring new routes. Power bank in my handlebar bag extends battery life too.

[@TheKevinHarris]

People don't know how lucky there are these days... When I were a lad there were no such things as computers. The first bit of 'technology' I had was a speedometer that was a dial and had a cable connected to a wheel that rubbed around my front wheel dynamo style. These days, Garmin all the time, I can only just about cope with riding to the end of the road and back to test setups without putting my Garmin on. Never used my phone, never will, I worry about it stuck out in front just feel it's going to get smashed but I don't even think about a cycling computer, I guess because that's what its for.

[@timgreer606]

my quadlock bike mount is on the way😊

[@DaveNoakes]

😁😁😁

[@kevinlyon9501]

I just use Strava on my phone and stick it in my pocket. I do have an old Garmin Edge a mate gave me but don't use it that much. Looks a decent bit of kit, you can link sensors to Strava don't know how many or the Wahoo app if using their sensors so you could get ride data using your phone. Battery wise if your using a handlebar bag could stick a power bank in it and plug it in.

[@cyrillemouret]

I use Cyclope because I am connected directly with other cyclists. I know their position and I can discuss with them.

[@peterhartill3047]

Fair Play Dave 👍 Informative vlog today 👍 I’ve used Garmin for years just got fed up of them fuc king up losing battery life / telling you to turn around etc Then now use wahoo good to be fair. Love ❤️ all data out in front so to use phone which I tried at first in top tube bag with phone compartment on the top Like you found kept going off on sleep mode and would totally drain battery and in the rain your phone would probably ring someone at work when your supposed to be Ill 😷 not riding 😂 😂 😂 Phones are expensive but so are bike computers maybe not so much now well no £250/£300 still a lot of money So for the price then maybe us as cyclists should expect more reliably and for them to work correctly But when you talk to other cyclists we expect them to play up and not work sometimes WHY do we / I do this For new cyclists it’s so frustrating when you spend that much and it not work. Rant over 😅🥲🥲 Happy cycling Dave / All 😎

[@treesandgardens4300]

Phone is fine for strava but cant beat the maps on the Garmin, so phone is on silent in a bag just recording strava

[@diamonddbw]

Cold. Phones will freeze, and fail to work. It happened to me, and I was distraught, for sure. Finally resolved problem by putting phone in inside pocket. It took only a few minutes for phone to thaw.

[@platypushatstand]

I’ve used a Cateye Velo 7 wired computer since 2012 with no issues, it’s even on the original battery! Recently the wire lost connection, so I replaced it with the MTB wire which is much thicker and sturdier. When I finish my ride I take pictures of each screen (TM, DST, AV, MX, ODO) with my iPhone and use PhotoGrid to make a collage picture of the screens, plus I can add titles of where and when it was. As someone else has already posted: “I ride, I don’t train” - yup me too, my iPhone gives access to maps, therefore the Wahoo etc would be overkill for me. I may try Strava one day, but if it’s a big battery drain I’m not interested. Oh and if you’re cold on the bike try a Buffalo Cycle Shirt www.buffalosystems.co.uk/products/cycle-shirt/

[@douglasbracken7562]

Just bought a quad lock works as advertised. Also use my phone, haven’t sprung for the Wahoo. Spending too much on the bike 😳

[@glennoc8585]

As phones get more waterproof and cheaper phones as bike computer alternative will be more the norm. I haven't used the quad lock but I'd consider it for sure.

[@left0verture]

I’d rather use my phone. Cadence is a great app and has more metrics than I need… ; problem is, between my sunglasses and the AZ sun my phone screen is impossible to read.

[@timboha8191]

I prefer a dedicated cycle computer, but I do use the phone with a quad lock for Sat nav on the motorbike.

[@clobber66]

Who wants to put their thousand pound phone on front of bike? I wouldn’t be too scared of breaking it. If I don’t use my Garmin head unit I rely on my Garmin watch.

[@thegrizzlys]

i use both, quadlock and phone for town rides or if i'm going somewhere i dont want to carry too much, computer for bigger and training rides

[@leebridgwater]

I agree, if your commuting phone all the way. Quadlock is great

[@OLLIEDOESVLOGS]

i use a phone mount from amazon, all metal for less than a tenner and its been the best purchase, its lasted mountain biking, its lasted bumpy gravel, and the phone doesnt move. i tried a friends quadlock this winter and honestly, prefer the one i have for much cheaper mainly as i prefer that i slide my phone in rather than put it in a case, but had no issues with the quadlock itself. i cant afford a cycle computer so its great to have mounts, and even on those long rides i just make sure to turn the screen off for most of the time, and leave nav directions on, and works perfectly well. phone mounts are incredible!

[@tonyhands-heart1057]

All i need to do is find a waterproof phone ?

[@soccernerd200]

They have a waterproof case option when you order the quad lock. The poncho cover as he mentions in the video.

[@909090jc]

Dave, can I get bike computer that just does cadence? the rest go by feel. Also, bike computers should be phones too.

[@steveleighton6745]

Been using a quad lock for about a year both on and off-road never had a problem fits solid I use a Garmin watch works perfect with my phone

[@mooseandspade6251]

I went out in the West Midlands today, it was INSANELY cold. My fingers are still hurting in the evening. Dave, if you can get a discount code for cycling gloves or something, let us know!

[@timgreer606]

I have the mag quadlock case

[@DaveNoakes]

I do too, love the magnet!

[@chasc301]

Nice reasoned explanation Dave👍🏽 I bought a Wahoo about 18 months ago after trying to use phone as a bikey computer....without much success. Never looked back. Liked your clothing strategy too ‘put on everything I own’. Class☃️

[@GeraldGuevara]

I tried using this setup. It just doesn't work that well in bright sunny days. Could hardly see the screen of my phone. Also since most phones these days are OLED, the numbers on the screen started burning in. Not surprisingly since the phone has to be max brightness. Battery life of the phone also diminished rather quickly. It kind of made my sensors(power, cadence, speed and hr) kind of useless since I could hardly see them on screen, which made them only uselful post ride. Now I got a simple garmin edge 130 plus, now I could see my data number crystal clear in bright sunny days. It's like e-ink of an ebook.

[@DaveNoakes]

I’ll be honest a bike computer is just better

[@financetips]

quad lock ad - not much to take away here regarding software tips, I have quadlock respect to the brand they are great, but save yourself the 9 mins

[@DaveNoakes]

Thanks for sharing

[@ellon118]

Yeah the quad lock is really good. I use it just to hold my phone. I’ve got a Garmin watch that’s not the best for looking at data while cycling but it’s good enough for me. Keep the videos coming

[@ianm8820]

Cycle computer and / or a GPS Watch (as I run / swim also)

[@ahmedtech090]

Seriously guys!! Who use bike computer nowadays 2022 , no one use ipod to listen music !! same thing, I have in my iPhone every thing I need gps , application, phone , music , big screen, if you have apple watch you will have hearts rate sensor ,more than 5 hours of riding you will carry phone even if you have bike computer more load you will carry in addition Why you need to spend money for some thing you already have, I believe in next years bike computer will disappear just like ipods become as history

[@DaveNoakes]

I couldn’t disagree more.

[@markmacaulay9011]

Quad lock products are brilliant! Used them for years now & they’re always prompt with their deliveries. Product quality is spot on too!

[@wil7sdni]

I think you need dampener

[@DaveNoakes]

its ok

[@dashingboy11]

Easy to install and use

[@DaveNoakes]

Sure is

[@pedroclaro7822]

For everyone except avid cyclists who ride almost everyday, a phone is THE way to go. Convenient, easy, and pretty cheap. Use a cheap cycle computer for stats and your phone for navigation. Vibrations can eventually damage your phone’s camera. Beware. I won’t use my good phone for off-road riding, only a beater. Plus Quadlock, although secure, isn’t a very comfortable case to use (big bulge), so you’re better off using it on your old phone imho. If you’re a bicycle tourer like me, a proper vibration dampening case is essential, and a bit worse than a used garmin.

[@DaveNoakes]

I agree 100%

[@lyndajones1133]

use my phone and a quadlock. lol. wanted to get somethin for a min tho like wahoo bolt or whatever maybe the roam

[@pgreenx]

I keep my phone in

[@DaveNoakes]

Works well

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

As someone who just got a bryton 320.... I’d rather use that. And it works with Strava too. I have a phone mount but I don’t want it on all the time... only for long distance rides on bike paths. Bike computers are good to see how your doing, it’s like feedback. Strava’s feedback is kinda panse when thinking about it. And plus I’d rather pay $200 for a new 320 than $700 for a new iPhone SE. Oh and you won’t have to worry about you autofocus module getting jangled around.

[@glennoc8585]

Use different software as strava is limited in output. I use the cateye app and ipbike.

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

@@glennoc8585 eh... I use free strava with my Bryton 320. It does what I want. Don’t really care about leaderboards and all that jazz.

[@kernow9324]

New to cycling, so this really interests me. Really nicely put together. Liked and subscribed.

[@DaveNoakes]

Thank you for the sub and welcome to the channel

[@djmartinsmith]

Loving the look of the out-front version of the Quad Lock. Much nicer. I always felt the original Stem mount sat too high. Although I don't use my phone to track rides, its super-handy for extra navigation/ride cues/training instructions or just easier access to phone instead of fumbling in back pockets only to drop the darn thing!

[@Bigsbeee]

We all crash though Dave £££££££ - Nice vlog mate

[@ezquiel700c]

zwift outdoors is great just need to remember that free wheeling doesnt move you in zwift :)

[@DaveNoakes]

Good point!

[@paulahavens2764]

I would use one but I do not want to run down my phone so I would get a cycle computer.

[@thomasroberts2869]

The GoPro mount and clear phone protector are optional extras. Does anyone know if you can fit a light to the mount?

[@DominikLoeffler1]

Yes, there are many lights and adapters that attach to a GoPro mount. It has become a de facto mounting standard

[@HUYNGUYEN-jp8xo]

It freaking quad lock commercial man. I thought you were going into apps to monitor your ride.

[@sergiocouto4854]

Thanks for warning.

[@seanicky]

Used my phone for a year, in my pocket first, then on a silicon mount. No problem with battery life (close everything, close WiFi etc). But, I just bought a Bryton! It's great, smaller, neater, and less of a worry. It takes time to find out everything that the Bryton can do (everything) but it just gets better and better! In retrospect a good out front mount would have done it, like a quad lock, but phones are just too large and expensive out front, so given the choice, I would have both! Cheers Dave!

[@damienblack1734]

This is more of a commerical for quad lock than about the app itself. kinda fail right?

[@DaveNoakes]

Bit of both mate 😂 you can use any mount for your phone…I just talk about quad lock as they are a channel sponsor. The end result is the same…just a bit of fun.

[@rondvivre3636]

Dave, Please have a look at IpBike for Android phones, it's easy to find on Google Play. It's incredibly powerful, pairs with a wide variety of sensors, logs more info than I can decipher, hooks into and uploads to many of the on line, Strava type services, data display is fully customizable and it includes the ability to use off line maps. There's great support via online help files and a user forum. IpBike is so good it deserves a full review. Can you find any bike computer function it doesn't support? The key needed after 1 million wheel revolutions is $7.99 USD as of this writing, You'll need to add IpSensorMan at no additional charge and you'll possibly want IpWatts as well if you'd like to compare multiple power meter sensors. Sorry, I had to delete all links as this comment doesn't show with them included. - -D'vivre

[@unknownguyguy9996]

Hey there, just saw your video - I personally don't do racing so I have a top tube saddle bag with a transparent cover and an additional battery pack. Total cost about 40 bucks. Is it heavy? Yes. Buuut I claim it's extra training ;)

[@DrAlafro]

I'm a casual bike rider using it to commute but also for some training. Nothing crazy, just some rides in high intensity, I don't have a power meter, just a heart rate monitor. I'm using my phone to record my data and it works perfectly fine, I have a suspicion that my GPS on my phone is a bit off but I don't care that much as long as it's 95% correct. I've considered buying Quadlock or SP Connect but neither makes cases for my phone. I have to buy another case and use their generic holder which I'm a bit hesitant about the glue durability. Another reason I don't have a bike mount is that my cellphone's battery with GPS and Bluetooth enabled will die pretty quickly, and how am I going to take Instagram photos :D :D Also, when it's raining even slightly it's not a option. I'm putting my phone in my pocket and it works OK. Disadvantages is that obviously I don't have live feed of my speed, heart rate etc. A big bummer though is the lack of navigation. During summer when I go out in the wild I stop every few meters checking the map - yes my orientation abilities are not existent :) All in all, yes it definitely works having your cellphone as a bike computer, even in your pocket. I'm saving some money though to buy a dedicated unit...

[@eleanorbox1954]

Hmmm. Not for me. I used to use Strava on my phone before I bought a cycle computer. My battery always died so you lose your ride data & can't contact anyone if you're in trouble. I find a phone screen too small for Zwift, currently using an iPad with a Tacx tablet handlebar mount. I guess the quad lock mount is an ok option for those that don't have tablets or laptops for running Zwift though.

[@DAZLIN6]

I use both a garmin and a phone sometimes I have an old phone I use for this. I got a stick on mount from ali express that fits nicely into my garmin out front mount.

[@jonasosa5126]

I use it. It’s fine but it’s not very accurate

[@RossAndr3w]

I use a garmin watch, connects to all sensors I need and more than enough battery life. Re: Zwift outdoors, Dave have you seen Hustle City? Look up a KZbin vid!

[@andytaveras9532]

Quad lock is awesome. I use my phone (11 pro max) if full I gotten 3 hours with the screen fully on tracking my progress . I just haven’t found the best app for me yet. I’m just picky though . And it’s def not strava

[@solitaryrefinement6787]

Strava on your phone + a $20 Anker power bank and you're set. I ditched a computer when I realized that I still needed everything else (phone anyway, heart rate monitor, sensors, etc...). Now, all I use is a thin wrist worn heart rate monitor paired to the phone and I have a small power bank for anything more than a 3 hour ride that triples my time (3 full phone recharges).

[@threefeetpete2010]

I used my phone with a Garmin mount adapter on my handlebars for a 30 mile off-road ride and the phone was literally rattled into electronic dementia,had to throw it away, don't do what I did.... I use the cycle streets app for back up navigation to the Garmin, it's free and you can download the UK map for free so if you lose signal it still works

[@markbulmer1840]

Dave defo computer, phone is just too big on your bars. OK in your pocket. If you think about it your phone has your whole life on them now. Bike computers are better they have all the data you need on them. Hands up for going out in this weather bugger that turbo training at the mo 👏👏👏👏👍