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Healing potions are often spammed in fantasy video games but how easy are they to drink while being attacked?
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@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 2 жыл бұрын
Now we need to see how practical it is to heal during battle by eating 15 cabbages, a mammoth snout, 4 cheese wheels, 7 apples, 4 potatoes, 3 raw 10 kilo chunks of venison, 2 sweet rolls, a giant's toe, and a bowl of Elsweyr fondue.
@jellythejellyfish7035
@jellythejellyfish7035 2 жыл бұрын
Or my favorite tactic from breath of the wild, *STUFF APPLES IN MY FACE TILL IM FULL HEARTS*
@AndrewAce.
@AndrewAce. 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha
@TechnicallyGrey
@TechnicallyGrey 2 жыл бұрын
Got to give this one a like
@jamesmurphy8968
@jamesmurphy8968 2 жыл бұрын
Do it!
@cocacola4blood365
@cocacola4blood365 2 жыл бұрын
Eeeeuuuugh! I think I'll just weather the damage.
@LMF1716
@LMF1716 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody knows in the rules of combat it's only fair to let your enemy use the pause menu to access their two hundred healing potions and five thousand cheese wheels
@SuperDeadzombeh
@SuperDeadzombeh 2 жыл бұрын
my enemies don't let me pause to eat i bend the laws of reality and freeze time my self cause i want to see thee fear in their eyes
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, drinking 50 jars of sujamma to make your character as strong as an adult elephant in the game TES III: Morrowind so you can kill the god-king Vivec and steal his stuff is one of the ways to speed-run the game.
@Merilirem
@Merilirem 2 жыл бұрын
@@Intranetusa I really don't think an elephant could kill Vivec in 1 hit.
@Intranetusa
@Intranetusa 2 жыл бұрын
@@Merilirem You can multiple hits on Vivec before he can even get one hit on you since his attacks are pretty slow and you can might be able to avoid getting hit altogether if you are good at dodging.
@georgemorrison458
@georgemorrison458 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like this is showing that as shad using potions in combat isn't reasonable but would a warrior in his peak really be as fat as shad and oz????/ are you sure you couldn't have a lot of training and be peak in body and be able to do it easily???
@DangerKiwi
@DangerKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
I’m now just imagining a medieval warrior with a beer hat contraption with straws going to his mouth aggressively drinking potions like a madman.
@mcwolf1096
@mcwolf1096 2 жыл бұрын
Now _I_ am just thinking of the Juicers from "Rifts" (the old RPG, not the recent computer game)
@oncreativemode5486
@oncreativemode5486 2 жыл бұрын
Now i imagine fantasy knights drinking on those soda hats from spongebob
@thanoseid2883
@thanoseid2883 Жыл бұрын
That’s honestly one of the only practical ways to do it.
@Jpeg.g
@Jpeg.g Жыл бұрын
The magical helm of vitality, a metal beer hat.
@yeetyeet5079
@yeetyeet5079 Жыл бұрын
@@thanoseid2883 there’s a Minecraft splash potion type thing where it just needs to contact you skin to work
@thecolclough
@thecolclough 2 жыл бұрын
19:03 Shad confirms 'Tree is a good tactic'... well, of course it is: we already knew Stick is a good tactic, and Tree is basically a big Stick
@Tree_-wp5zn
@Tree_-wp5zn 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I am.
@graywolfdracon
@graywolfdracon 2 жыл бұрын
Unless it's one of the trees from Melcior 7. They are 300 ft. tall and breath fire.
@American-Aristocrat
@American-Aristocrat 2 жыл бұрын
This comment needs more likes
@thomascranfield7136
@thomascranfield7136 2 жыл бұрын
@@graywolfdracon those trees do make very fine desks though
@xraystudios3693
@xraystudios3693 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the stick leaves him satisfied ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@the_senate8050
@the_senate8050 2 жыл бұрын
This is why skilled alchemists brew their potions in Capri-Sun containers for maximum sip speed without the need for a head tilt.
@84rinne_moo
@84rinne_moo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was just thinking of filling your camelbak with healing potion and strategically place your straw for hands free sipping at any time!
@onasknox9284
@onasknox9284 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, yes
@brianherold1835
@brianherold1835 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking something similar, but with replacing the top pouch of Shad's bandolier with a metal flask with a straw so all that's needed is a slight head turn to take a sip.
@settheshallow8913
@settheshallow8913 2 жыл бұрын
Alternativley: Have Alchemists make Pellets/Pills
@robertpopa2628
@robertpopa2628 2 жыл бұрын
Pez of healing?
@someeejit
@someeejit 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if there was a game with an insanely hard boss that got more and more fed up with you every time you died and respawned, after a while it gets so fed up with killing you it just lets you pass
@yds6268
@yds6268 2 жыл бұрын
Dormammu, I've come to bargain
@MrNationalWonder
@MrNationalWonder 2 жыл бұрын
Some games do this by offering to lower difficulty 😂
@jackielogan9104
@jackielogan9104 2 жыл бұрын
It will be a nice hidden mechanic in a Souls-like RPG
@MalakaiXed
@MalakaiXed 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an Undertale inspired game
@TheTerrorHamster
@TheTerrorHamster 2 жыл бұрын
Ask the boss how it feels about every time you loose you argue that was just a try and repeat the fight but that one time you are lucky and win that's the match that actually counts
@fluffywise686
@fluffywise686 2 жыл бұрын
Forget the in battle part. Imagine attempting to fight someone who has had years of micro dosing healing potions and strength trained. Out of combat training would be insane. Run as fast as your body and lungs can take you. Heal and get stronger. Lift a bolder 3 times your size. Heal, get stronger. Combat training that involves a lot of punches to the face. Heal, get stronger. Abs...just abs... Heal get stronger. And that's just a Monday. Tuesday is worse.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 2 жыл бұрын
In a story I'm reading, healing potions are actually avoided during strength training because they repair all the micro-tearing of muscle fibers that leads to growth, negating any potential gains. The idea of being able to skill train in ways that would be too dangerous without healing potions is still be very legit though, as well as building up a tolerance for extreme pain and learning how to fight with debilitating wounds.
@QFinixian
@QFinixian 2 жыл бұрын
@@herbderbler1585 That's actually a really good point because, if "it heals everything" it will only help the psychological part of the training not much of the physical and come to think that, like medicine, you could probably get "resistance" or become less effective a potion if you continue abuse of it
@antiboyscout
@antiboyscout 2 жыл бұрын
@@herbderbler1585 The Wandering Inn? It does have an interesting take on healing potions with interesting limitations
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 2 жыл бұрын
@@antiboyscout ha, good to meet a fellow innworld reader
@noradlark167
@noradlark167 2 жыл бұрын
@@herbderbler1585 This is not how muscle building works. Muscle growth is not a function of muscle micro tears. You produce growth signal proteins and muscle damage is a negative on top of it. What the commenter mentions can be done with anabolics as some of them do increase healing. Athletes like fighters are likely micro-dosing for more practice.
@Berserk_Knight
@Berserk_Knight 2 жыл бұрын
The joke helmets with drink containers instead of horns, used in various fan animations and joke skins (such as Brolaf from LoL) would actually make sense. Go full plate armor and winged great helms, with the wings holding potions. Tubing is internal with this design, further reducing potential weak points such as exposed potion tubes. You'd probably need to get hit with siege weapons to die in any reasonable time frame.
@VegetaLF7
@VegetaLF7 2 жыл бұрын
Hell, a camel pack backpack filled with health potion placed under the armor would also be a good pick.
@Topstormking
@Topstormking 2 жыл бұрын
A hydration pack but filled with potion instead of water.
@brettbridger362
@brettbridger362 2 жыл бұрын
@@VegetaLF7 That was my thought. Either combining with the idea of a bag of holding, so what you suck out is what you want, or a couple of tubes and you pick the tube you want.
@johnstockley6976
@johnstockley6976 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. My first thought too.
@SimonWoodburyForget
@SimonWoodburyForget 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that weigth on the head limits mobility significantly more then if it were on your hips or back. If you needed plessure for assistance, it would make more sense to use pressure somehow.
@brothertaddeus
@brothertaddeus 2 жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning that while drinking a potion in a one-on-one may not really be feasible, in a group combat where you have allies it'd be a lot easier. Think of it like a modern army squad when someone needs to reload: You get out of the line of fire, call out that you're reloading, and get it done in about a second. Your allies cover you while you are temporarily not combat effective.
@sergeantbrother6940
@sergeantbrother6940 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it would be like the ancient Romans where the front line falls back and rests while others move forward to replace them. They could take potions to heal wounds or regain stamina while other soldiers move in to defend them.
@LynSain
@LynSain 2 жыл бұрын
And that's why some people call magazine as energy drink. XD Although some games implement auto-potion. No drink animation, and in some fantasy setting some potion is consumed via injection with special tool made by certain alchemist. They can be in many form like gauntlet as example. That can be useful for one on one combat but of course there will be limitations. If it's activated manually, then shield user will have problem. Still, if the user has no time to find safe distance because the opponent is too fast, that also not working. Also how you will replace the empty potion is another problem which in the end is pretty similar with the classic drinking method. It's pretty much the same like reloading alone with no ally nearby under heavy fire.
@plastictouch6796
@plastictouch6796 2 жыл бұрын
It would support a numbers advantage, if you were out outnumbered or even equal in numbers you would still be skrewd.
@Lucky13Ravens
@Lucky13Ravens 2 жыл бұрын
That is a moderate to large unit of people in a highly trained and organised army as is the Roman legions comment. In a melee i.e. most party based RPG's, medieval European warfare, Roman Era Celts, Gauls, Scythians and Germans or just most combat in history. It is much harder than even one on one. You can be struck from any direction at any moment by any enemy or, in real life examples, an ally with blood in their eyes. And that ignores any ranged assailants.
@gerbo8018
@gerbo8018 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucky13Ravens Actually even in medieval europe it wouldn't be to hard as you'd fight in lines with backup behind you. Sure it would require a different way of handeling it like you do now (as it is shoulder to shoulder and hard to swap in and out) but perfectly possible. even without backup behind you if you fight in line lets say 5 people you fall back drink a pot and get back in in 30 seconds its fine. (ofc it is dangerous and could provoke attacks of opportunity)
@veggiedragon1000
@veggiedragon1000 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Dark Souls games handle potions a lot more realistically in that you need to wait for the enemy to miss with a large attack, run away, or otherwise find an opening, because drinking an estus locks you into a relatively long animation. If you attempt to heal at an inopportune time, enemies WILL take advantage of that, with some bosses even having specific animations for doing so and usually leading to death.
@firenter
@firenter 2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna come here and say this if I couldn't find a comment about it!
@wolffang489
@wolffang489 2 жыл бұрын
Same with Monster Hunter. Recent games even scale their effectiveness to how much of the bottle you manage to chug through (a change which is an entire discussion on the game meta).
@its_dey_mate
@its_dey_mate 2 жыл бұрын
Witcher 2 handles it really well as well. In the books Geralt never drinks during a fight, naturally he fights beings that are ten times faster and deadlier than humans and you need all of the sweet sweet witcher reflexes not to die, so they drink everything before a fight. The witcher 2 is exactly like that, you can't drink during a fight, you have to prepare before and sometimes you get effed up because you want as much of the time remaining of a potion, but not know when a cutscene will play indicating the beginning of a battle.
@formless.chicken
@formless.chicken 2 жыл бұрын
that's why bloodborne is good, healing time is fast
@anonyme4881
@anonyme4881 2 жыл бұрын
In dnd 2e drinking a potion in battle is usually a death sentance
@gogroxandurrac
@gogroxandurrac 2 жыл бұрын
7:30 stamina potions would change battles a huge amount. Rotating formations would become even more popular as apart from the rest of not being in active combat every second it would also allow for potion consumption.
@crusadr_4966
@crusadr_4966 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the German Blitzkrieg units who used Crystal Meth as a "Stamina potion".
@e1123581321345589144
@e1123581321345589144 2 жыл бұрын
7:09 I've actually used that in real life. Not while fighting though, but climbing a mountain or on a difficult bike ride. If you're really drained, you can take these dextrose tablets with a bit of magnesium and it restores your stamina in a few minutes. And the effect lasts for hours. p.s. this would make an interesting story, in a world where everyone uses potions, this alchemist finds a way to refine his potions in tablets that instantly dissolve in the user's stomach.
@Esvald
@Esvald 2 жыл бұрын
Warfare in such world would be more about poisons than direct combat I think, since potions would be so wide spread and commonly used.
@VeryPeeved
@VeryPeeved 2 жыл бұрын
that is actually a thing in the Quest for Glory franchise: rather than potions, the various restoratives are in pill form.
@chakatfirepaw
@chakatfirepaw 2 жыл бұрын
That's something I use/allow in my games: "Potions" can come in multiple forms with various advantages and disadvantages. Baking them into a biscuit/cookie means you have something easy to handle that is less vulnerable to breakage, (it broke? eat both parts), but you can't do things like dribbling the potion into someone's mouth. The syringes a more technologically advanced group might use are quicker to use and easy to use on others, but are more breakable and run into problems with armour. (Of course, once you start playing in genres like urban fantasy you might have 'potions' loaded into injection pumps so 'taking a potion' is just a button press.)
@Jpeg.g
@Jpeg.g Жыл бұрын
@@Esvald why even need potions if you have a mage in the back throwing heal spells at anyone who gets hit. They only have to worry about mana pr stamina or so fourth. But they are the only ones needing to drink poitions.
@voodoodummie
@voodoodummie 2 жыл бұрын
The obvious solution to this dilemma is to combine your favourite full helmet, say the classic crusader's bucket helmet, and merge it with a classic American Beer hat. You load multiple potions onto the helmet and have its blessed healing run through some straw analogue, bonus points if you don't use lead for creating the straws.
@zealotguy
@zealotguy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. The Smitty Jorganmanjenson hat.
@KoreyMacGill
@KoreyMacGill 2 жыл бұрын
i mentioned an IV system. this is better. this is far more superior. animal intestine cords and route em to a drip in your mouth or something.
@Techstriker1
@Techstriker1 2 жыл бұрын
I swear I've seen that in a game.
@myscreen2urs
@myscreen2urs 2 жыл бұрын
Nice idea. The bucket would support nachos too 🙃
@alexanderdiaz4417
@alexanderdiaz4417 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@SpaceSoups
@SpaceSoups 2 жыл бұрын
I can imagine a group of high level adventures casually taking potions/shots while fights some goblins.
@estaticethan1752
@estaticethan1752 2 жыл бұрын
Goblin Slayer
@ADogNamedStay
@ADogNamedStay 2 жыл бұрын
Snorts a line of coke "WHOOOOOOOOO LETS FUCKING GO BOYS" "But sire, you're arm is gone" "SO IT FUCKING IS, LEEEEEEEROOOOOY JENKINS" -götz von berlichingen probably.
@_Ekaros
@_Ekaros 2 жыл бұрын
I can't. If they are high level adventures goblin army should be considered difficult terrain. Not something that needs potions. It's not like they get hit, but climbing over the dead bodies is constant cutting down is an exercise...
@Wintermute909
@Wintermute909 2 жыл бұрын
That used to be called Saturday night in Cabramatta back in the day
@Timbo_Boy
@Timbo_Boy 2 жыл бұрын
My idea to solve this would be what Skipping Rock Lab does with Ooho. Basically edible balls filled with liquid. Or you fill grapes as potions.
@thanoseid2883
@thanoseid2883 Жыл бұрын
That opens up a whole other can of worms though. Could you pop pills while fighting? How much do they heal? Etc. this is quite a deep subject if you think about it.
@Tohob
@Tohob 2 жыл бұрын
"a potion you could drink that would restore your energy would be a game changer" -shad "i'm 7 monster energy's per night ahead of you" -my old night shift supervisor
@mysticmarbles
@mysticmarbles 2 жыл бұрын
If potions were real the meta would be to have a camelback or "beer hat" setup where you could keep your hands free and keep chugging potions.
@tael3081
@tael3081 2 жыл бұрын
... And now I'm just imagining every battle in history... with everyone on both sides wearing very anachronistic beer hats...
@cdgonepotatoes4219
@cdgonepotatoes4219 2 жыл бұрын
@@tael3081 hey, good polycarbonate protects just as well as steel does, just it's less scratch resistant.
@cdgonepotatoes4219
@cdgonepotatoes4219 2 жыл бұрын
A more boring but more plausible alternative would be a waterskin with a straw that stays on your back, no different to what they use in modern conflicts.
@lyricrichards6547
@lyricrichards6547 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that but now iam thinking viking helmet beer hat
@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436
@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 2 жыл бұрын
Along with bottles to use after a fight.
@friedrichsanktgermain7632
@friedrichsanktgermain7632 2 жыл бұрын
Shad: talking about how he’s using lemonade as his potion stand-in Me: Let me introduce you to my brand, Lemon-Aid! Whether it’s restoratives, cure-alls or stat boosters, we have it for you in all your favourite lemon drink flavours!
@kelvinsantiago7061
@kelvinsantiago7061 2 жыл бұрын
Now I kinda want to drink Lemon Aid! too!.
@dangerdash4393
@dangerdash4393 2 жыл бұрын
Just make sure you're not buying it from Insanity Wolf.
@durandol
@durandol 2 жыл бұрын
The lemon is a mighty fruit.
@SheyD78
@SheyD78 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Dresden Files, where Harry would make potions out of gatorade and stuff and put them in sports drink bottles.
@Likexner
@Likexner 2 жыл бұрын
I think all these "clever" ways to spell things are a major factor in why most young people nowadays have horrible spelling skills.
@Fjuron
@Fjuron 2 жыл бұрын
10:40 very interesting. Fighting recklessly and treating your health like a resource - sounds like a video game 😂
@chillaxin65
@chillaxin65 2 жыл бұрын
This is why most adventure games are featured in the woods. After chugging a hundred potions, our hero will need to heroically relieve themselves on a nearby tree.
@wafflingmean4477
@wafflingmean4477 2 жыл бұрын
Oz: *tries to murder his boss* Shad: "Aim for the neck next time."
@eldrenofthemist2492
@eldrenofthemist2492 2 жыл бұрын
XD
@tuseroni6085
@tuseroni6085 2 жыл бұрын
"shoulda aimed for the head"
@williamturner6192
@williamturner6192 2 жыл бұрын
No. Shad would have done that himself if he thought of it, right?. Can't drink if he doesn't have a neck for it to go down.
@en0n126
@en0n126 2 жыл бұрын
"Stamina potions are underrated and would be a game changer in a fight." Yeah, we call those amphetamines and they've been researched and used by militaries throughout recent history, especially during WW2.
@oli3645
@oli3645 2 жыл бұрын
Hans get me the panzerchocolate France won’t be capturing itself!
@natashasurvivallady8021
@natashasurvivallady8021 2 жыл бұрын
All potion talk aside, good on you, Oz! That last fight had quick thinking, knowing the terrain, and preparation that a lot of experienced fighters even forget. Especially packing the dagger for close up work. Well done!!
@terrorcop101
@terrorcop101 2 жыл бұрын
2:48 After watching your intro skit, I'm thinking the epi-pen would've been invented quite a bit sooner in history if health potions existed. 10:23 Alternatively, instead of a cork, you could have a cap on a hinge. Edit: or a straw
@sirporthos3957
@sirporthos3957 10 ай бұрын
Like inhalers from Cyberpunk?
@terrorcop101
@terrorcop101 10 ай бұрын
@@sirporthos3957 never played so maybe
@yarashuran6309
@yarashuran6309 2 жыл бұрын
I'm over here laughing my *** off at the thought of two people fighting while each is holding an opened potion bottle, desperately trying to not spill any of it
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 2 жыл бұрын
Just have a jar in your backpack and a small tube you can sip on
@bretalvarez3097
@bretalvarez3097 2 жыл бұрын
@@tedarcher9120 Or in a waterskin so there is no risk of breaking the container that holds the potion. The only problem would be getting a flexible and reliable tube in a middle age/renaissance era fantasy.
@stonecoldscubasteveo4827
@stonecoldscubasteveo4827 2 жыл бұрын
How about a camelbak-style thing with a long flexible straw, full of potion? Keep the straw clenched between your teeth as you fight, just take a sip at any time. You could even have armor made with a spot for the reservoir. Run the straw on up the inside of your helmet and you are good to go. I'd think you would want at least a lower face guard.
@357Dejavu
@357Dejavu 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking some thing similar
@robbydonaghy8735
@robbydonaghy8735 2 жыл бұрын
Could add a fun extra target of trying to sever the straw, that'd be a neat mechanic in a boss fight. The other thing I was thinking of was armor covered in potion tide pods, so if you get cut through, the opponents blade will carry the potion right to your wound, assuming it is topical.
@allopez8563
@allopez8563 2 жыл бұрын
Can healing and strength potions can be mixed? And then have them injected directly into a vein or bone? Like Bane.
@evmarekaj
@evmarekaj 2 жыл бұрын
Can also having the beer drinking hats
@gamerguy8105
@gamerguy8105 2 жыл бұрын
You could also do something a little more primitive like a flip cap unless the potion needs to stay under pressure. The flip cap could be a little faster than cork cap but definitely camelbak-style would be way faster.
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth Жыл бұрын
In Blasphemous, the Penitent One just smashes the flask against his face So I guess the idea is absorbing the effect through your skin rather than having to ingest it like a drink Today we have those camel backs backpacks that hold water on your back and let you drink. Get a fantasy version of those but filled with healing liquid.
@johnstockley6976
@johnstockley6976 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine a larp viking helmet made practical: the horns act like a beer helmet with the strawtube attached to healing potions mounted to the horns.
@Slowsilv
@Slowsilv 2 жыл бұрын
can we all take a moment and appreciate how dope Oz was stealing his opponents dagger and stabbing him with it... that was super smooth
@kirgan1000
@kirgan1000 2 жыл бұрын
If healing potions was a thing, "beer hats" will be the standard, or helmets that have a intergrated "beer hat" function.
@plzletmebefrank
@plzletmebefrank 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the camelback thinking other people in these comments are going with. Adding weight to the head sounds... Not awesome. Especially when it's full of liquid that's attached to the side which would really throw off your balance, and also you'd crush them when rolling and dodging...
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
Ever done cardio immediately after drinking water?... It's not a fun time for the stomach after drinking a full bottle. Beer Hats will be useful but then the question is... How much potion liquid is too much?
@kyltredragmire4939
@kyltredragmire4939 2 жыл бұрын
There is only one game I ever played that put more thought than normal into potions. It was Dungeon Siege, from back in the 90s. Characters drank the potions in real time. They also would only drink as much as they needed to heal. I really liked that. You're ability to heal is based on your ability to CHUG.
@spencerbowman5658
@spencerbowman5658 2 жыл бұрын
Gives a whole new appreciation for something like a senzu bean, where you can just keep a bunch in your pocket and pop one quickly without worrying about a bottle apparatus or anything like that
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 8 ай бұрын
SENZU BEAN! (throws bean)
@MayBeSomething
@MayBeSomething 2 жыл бұрын
Shad Facts: The potion bottles he throws away here are thrown into a demi-plane he created. In the demi-plane, the potions are refilled, then redistributed back into his packs.
@cdgonepotatoes4219
@cdgonepotatoes4219 2 жыл бұрын
save for the corks, the corks upon touching the ground enter the same dimension your socks occasionally find themselves in.
@observantowl1726
@observantowl1726 2 жыл бұрын
@@cdgonepotatoes4219 I was wondering why there was a cork in my sock this morning...
@Rahzma
@Rahzma 2 жыл бұрын
You know, in a world that has these magical potions, I don't see anyone using a corked bottle to hold them. People love convenience. Even in a medieval setting, they would see how hard it is to pull it out, un cork, and down it in the middle of a fight. You'd think they would try to invent a better method of getting to their potions. Maybe a flip lock they can just thumb open instantly without fighting it open. Or keep the potions in small dissolvable pouches, like healing fruit gushers kinda thing. That or just paint a big "We're Number 1" on their helmet and attach potion holders on the side with silly straws.
@ronweber1402
@ronweber1402 2 жыл бұрын
I immediately went to one of those ridiculous drinking helmets as well.
@TheFadedMusic
@TheFadedMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately began thinking of ways to make a cork a quick open. Or even using wax to seal it like those coke bottle candies.
@entropy11
@entropy11 2 жыл бұрын
healing fruit gushers ftw
@setcheck67
@setcheck67 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say most medieval fighters would take the simple approach. Just break the end of it on some metal piece of their suit and guzzle the liquid from the air. It's messy, but it's fast and speed is pretty much all that matters in life or death situations.
@darkfishthedestroyer139
@darkfishthedestroyer139 2 жыл бұрын
if it were possible in medieval times, they could invent one of those water bags hikers, bikers and even soldiers wear on their backs, filled with water and has a straw leading to the mouth where you can drink it from.
@heathmorris6100
@heathmorris6100 2 жыл бұрын
10:10 I’ve always viewed potions as having a healing ability that matches the volume consumed. So the more you drink the more you heal
@emikochan13
@emikochan13 2 жыл бұрын
This is why it takes an entire action to drink a potion in dnd, though there are the healthstone type ones that you just smash onto yourself that are quicker to use. You'd probably have them under your armour so they'd break if anything got through. I have seen in many worlds the potion bottles are made of a very brittle/edible sort of glass that you can easily crack with a thumb as you take it out.
@Ludendorf01
@Ludendorf01 2 жыл бұрын
Yes...that enhances dnd's realism - along with the wheelchair accessible dungeons :)
@Lady-V
@Lady-V 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it'd be a bit more boring, but healing pills or snacks sound like they'd probably be more effective, since it's a solid thing you can plop into your mouth quickly instead of holding a bottle up to your mouth for awhile
@cmoore6547
@cmoore6547 2 жыл бұрын
You would have to chew something something solid. In actuality you would have to metabolize anything you ingest. So if you could apply it to the wound would be better. Perhaps a sponge or rag moistened with the potion. ..
@Chronuz
@Chronuz 2 жыл бұрын
This how Monster Hunter World handled their healing consumables. Potions were slow healing and can get your character smacked in the middle of the animation (characters can still move while drinking). Pills can instantly heal and quick to consume but limited in quantity that can be brought due to gameplay balance I assume.
@akl2k7
@akl2k7 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmoore6547 Maybe a chewable gummy with a hard outer shell and liquid inside would be best. Therefor, you'd only have to bite once, swallow, and keep fighting.
@christopherkecun8349
@christopherkecun8349 2 жыл бұрын
Avengers use prior-inserted syringes to get the magic flowing fasta.
@DeadMeat991
@DeadMeat991 2 жыл бұрын
@@akl2k7 Like the gels in the Tales of series.
@CtrlFreak1337
@CtrlFreak1337 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way Nioh handles "potions"- they're actually solid medicinal pellets that you just eat. Much quicker and easier to make use of. The containment and administration method (solid vs. liquid, bottle or vial vs. pouch or something easier to open, or even injection) makes a HUGE difference in the viability of healing items. Imagine a healing PEZ dispenser...
@KirkGrimm
@KirkGrimm 2 жыл бұрын
I would said Bloodborne is even better. Your character uses blood vials by injecting them with a syringe in the leg.
@TheBonePirate
@TheBonePirate 2 жыл бұрын
my healing pez has a batman head
@semajniomet981
@semajniomet981 2 жыл бұрын
Or the stimpacks from the Fallout series.
@galadballcrusher8182
@galadballcrusher8182 2 жыл бұрын
i have to say though that nioh doesnt make much sense compared to Fallout Stimpacks because in general a pill is farslower to take effect given first stomach enzymes and acids have to break down the structure and in pills there often is an outer layer (specialy by capsule types) before the important healing agent get absorbed , enter blood and start work.... compare this to stimpacks which are intravenal ...like the hyposprays in star trek....
@harlannguyen4048
@harlannguyen4048 2 жыл бұрын
RE6 uses a capsule dispenser for healing.
@hoffenwurdig1356
@hoffenwurdig1356 2 жыл бұрын
In the movie called “The Ninja”, the antitoxin potion was both very small and integrated into the sword pommel, which (with a little better design than was the case in that movie) might have been made relatively easy to take with little or no need for the off hand. A further issue is the question -- how easy is it to accidentally break the potion container, because of it slipping from your hand, or if you receive a strong blow, or if you fall to the ground? In Quest for Glory V, potion containers appeared to be of reasonably tough ceramic, often with glaze and painted symbology to indicate the potion’s contents. Also, there is the question of wether you can or cannot have healing substances formed into solids or semisolids, such as a taffy, a false tooth, or beads on a necklace or bracelets. Edible beads that contained healing substances would be easier to access with almost no pause. Sometimes, ninja would soak their clothing in coagulants in case the cloth needed to be used for emergency bandages. One herbal agent in which clothing was soaked for this purpose is from a type of green gentian.
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 Жыл бұрын
That movie was so terrible. 🤣
@TheMermaidSewist
@TheMermaidSewist 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why in D&D it takes a full action (6sec) to consume a potion. I always kinda thought about it taking some effort to break combat and take a potion, but seeing the practicality in person it makes even more sense.
@MrWarlord396
@MrWarlord396 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to "do you need to drink the whole potion?", apparently the original Dungeon Siege let the player just sip as much as needed from a potion and cork the rest for later
@doopdoopdopdop7424
@doopdoopdopdop7424 2 жыл бұрын
And in dark souls the potion has a few sips.
@StickNik
@StickNik 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's a handful of games which have a flask type mechanic like Souls. I think one Indiana Jones game had a refillable flask, but even more flexible than the fixed number of drinks you can take from an Estus flask, but simply drink as much as you need to heal you to full or as much as is left in the flask, so no wasted overhealing.
@erikvale3194
@erikvale3194 2 жыл бұрын
@@StickNik Horizon: Zero Dawn has similar. Albeit for a herb pouch, but you use it in combat with no animation.
@Dagrizzb
@Dagrizzb 2 жыл бұрын
"Stamina Potions". AKA, colored cocaine water.
@phoenixkingtheo
@phoenixkingtheo 2 жыл бұрын
"How many of those do you have?" "About 500." Ah yes, but a certain number of that 500 are super rare potions, which you keep saving incase you really need them so at the end of the game, you're left with the rare potions
@KairuHakubi
@KairuHakubi 2 жыл бұрын
"How many do you have?" "One." "Sell me two" "Now i have 255"
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
But you would never really use those 500x Potions because you're hording those items or it's too rare in rarity to use. lol
@Zarchonum
@Zarchonum 2 жыл бұрын
one item in the Pathfinder games that is interesting with this concept is the Sipping Jacket: essentially a vest you can wear with the potion inside of it that has a straw running from the reservoir to your mouth that you can just drink hands free. That being said this would be helpful if you could predict which type of potion you'd need before the fight.
@drogadepc
@drogadepc 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda like those water bladders people use in outdoors activities?
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 Жыл бұрын
They have camel packs like that in real life. They're kind of a pain to clean and I'm not sure how much of the potion you actually have to drink to make it work.
@christopherlibrary9265
@christopherlibrary9265 2 жыл бұрын
Thorough and entertaining as always. 7 years ago, the vid "Dead Fantasy 2" had a 45 second fight sequence entirely centered on a team trying to give just one member an opportunity to drink a stamina potion while the enemy team did all they could to prevent it.. Quite amusing. Start at 5 and a half minutes in.
@Missiletainn
@Missiletainn 2 жыл бұрын
Also fighting in full armour, with a helmet would be more difficult to use the healing potions, so helmet design in a world with healing potions would be very different. Maybe even designed like those beer hats where you can drink without your hands, also potions maybe designed with pop off lids instead of corks, though that depends on how easily the potions will spoil if not stored properly.
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 2 жыл бұрын
So it would be a "pot helm," then?
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a pop-off lid with a simple metal clamp on it would be WAAAAAAY more convenient in the middle of a fight.
@verzeihturncoat27
@verzeihturncoat27 2 жыл бұрын
Myth Viking Helmets. Drink horns -> potion horns
@LoneWolf20213
@LoneWolf20213 2 жыл бұрын
that is why a healer in a party is so valuable, they prevent the need for using healing potion's till you have no other choice
@taurock96
@taurock96 2 жыл бұрын
That would make an interesting video : How practical healing magic would really be in combat, magic usually recquire rituals or focus and stuff, so when you're in the middle of a whole melee ? I guess that depends on the situation
@LoneWolf20213
@LoneWolf20213 2 жыл бұрын
@@taurock96 right, and it depends on how the magic is able to be used, if you need a chant then the healer needs time to chant, if it’s range is limited then you need to move in range, and if there are other combatants to distract the enemy to heal you, all that comes to play
@mattb9343
@mattb9343 2 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea for your fantasy story potion needs: Camel packs. I lived in the mountains where hiking was popular and one solution to water bottles we had was a pouch or sling with water in them and a straw going near your mouth with a button you press to open a valve and suck the water out. What if you had potion pouches or potion skins with straws in them for immediate potion access? You could even have multiple pouches for your health potion, stamina potion, mana potion, etc. Another solution could be a potion injector. Like an epi-pen with potion in it and you just jab the potion in your arm or gut and heal up.
@matusfekete6503
@matusfekete6503 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this tried in full-on sparing. Let's nerd out and dive into real fighting. Drinking potions may be plausible. Normally in combat you try hit your opponent while defending from his attacks. It's not wise to only defend - you will eventualy get hit and die. But changing mode to 'defense only' for few seconds may give you enough window to take the potion. Big problem is injury itself. If you get hit hard enough to significatly lower your HP, your real-life fighting (and defending) ability will be hugely inhibited. Intentionaly letting to be injured is ill-advised. It's very hard to predict how sever will be received injury and you may not be capable of taking the potion or even insta-die.
@johngroves3536
@johngroves3536 2 жыл бұрын
On the note of how much of the potion would be needed to heal your injuries: one fantasy story that breaks from the usual "drink one whole potion" is The Chronicles of Narnia. Lucy's healing potion only requires the application of a single drop directly to the wound(s) for full healing.
@stevenmckenna745
@stevenmckenna745 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you need to drink the entire potion?" that reminds me of reincarnated as a slime. Their healing potions were made from a magical plant and the level of concentration determined it's effectiveness. a full heal was defined at 100%, but the lesser potions ~25% were commonly made by diluting greater(might of been suprior) potion 99% with water. If this was defined as the norm, I would then assume theirs a minimum amount required for it to work. Bonus Fact: in the same series they stipulate the actual effect was rapid cell regeneration, meaning bacterial infections would spread at the same rate the potion healed you
@ShadowKingthe7
@ShadowKingthe7 2 жыл бұрын
Regard the rapid cell regeneration, the OVAs go even further. There is a noble who pay a lot for a full potion for his sick and dying wife only to find out that if he had given it to her, she would have died immediately because she actually had cancer
@stevenmckenna745
@stevenmckenna745 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowKingthe7 that's actually the episode that came to mind when posting this. It was so funny when the great sage said he could of given her honey
@BionAvastar3000
@BionAvastar3000 2 жыл бұрын
That dagger backstab was very inventive, points to Oz!
@scummytheruler
@scummytheruler 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Shad would you ever consider taking a look at the weaponry of the predators from the films? I never realized how useless the hidden blade was until I saw your video and im curious how the armaments of the yautja would fare under scrutiny.
@RaptorGeorges
@RaptorGeorges 2 жыл бұрын
At least if one or several or their weapons are terrible you can handwave it by saying they're using them specifically for the challenge ^^
@scummytheruler
@scummytheruler 2 жыл бұрын
@@RaptorGeorges definitely, or their strength allows them to get away with things humans couldn't. Like maybe catching isnt as big of a deal for them. But I agree I think most of there arsenal is not very effective.
@lockwoan01
@lockwoan01 2 жыл бұрын
In the Discworld series, specifically the book "The Truth", there's a vampire who wants to be a journalistic photographer. Problem is, every time he takes a picture, a bright light goes off, and Poof! - he becomes a pile of ashes, and the only way to revive him is to pour blood onto said ashes - any blood will do. Leads to a funny situation when his black coat takes on the colors of the carpet in the home of the place he takes some pictures in, after being restored from a pile of ash. Later on, in "Monstrous Regiment", said vampire photographer shows up as a side character - even giving the main character of that some advise about how to deal with their own vampire friend - and while he still turns into a pile of ashes when he takes a later famous picture, he negates the main annoyance of waiting for blood by carrying a glass vial containing blood - vial shatters upon hitting the ground, ashes soak up the blood, und hez ba-ha-ck (sorry, my Uberwald axcent iz terrible).
@ender7278
@ender7278 2 жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with potions?
@lockwoan01
@lockwoan01 2 жыл бұрын
@@ender7278 Think of the blood in the vial as a Vampire's Healing Potion - don't even need to drink it. Splash it on the ashes, and Boom! He'z Back!
@Sebbaasdungeon
@Sebbaasdungeon 2 жыл бұрын
It's easier in a skirmish or battlefield situation, where your buddies can cover you, while you drink the potion. In my experience from larp though, no one ever drinks potions in mid-combat. You drink it if there is a pause in combat, or if the healers feed it to you, when you are already on the ground.
@jean-sebastienmatte2358
@jean-sebastienmatte2358 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, LARP do give us a way to "experience" potions in combat. And yeah, solo fight? Never, but, as you said, if you have buddies to cover you? Doable.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 жыл бұрын
@@jean-sebastienmatte2358 The LARP I used to play had a low-level spell, Disarm, that would force you to drop any hand-held item the caster named. There were plenty of "I disarm you of your potion!" spells just before rogue's backstab or a fighter's timely blow.
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 жыл бұрын
@@jean-sebastienmatte2358 Another point I forgot is that potions are for the non-healers to carry to get other people up from the ground, especially the healer. People who use their potions on themselves mid-combat are desperate and/or not in a group with an attentive healer.
@randomthegreat2329
@randomthegreat2329 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding Shad's last experiment - I think it would be much easier with a straw in sealed bottle/flask that runs into/near your mouth. Also if you need to swallow liquid for potion to have an effect, might be even better to put some liquid in your mouth before the fight and swallow as it goes. But overall, imho, the better kind of mechanic would be a slower regeneration potion that you drink before a fight. Also I liked how one game specifically handled healing potion (not a potion tbh, they decided to go with healing ointment but the purpose is the same). When you are out of combat you can actually heal (although you need other specific stuff for serious injuries that maim you). When you are in combat - you can try and quickly apply the same ointment to stop bleeding, but no healing is done.
@jean-sebastienmatte2358
@jean-sebastienmatte2358 2 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99Your disarm, sneak attack technique would work in smaller engagements, however, in a skirmish, where both sides are big enough to form a battle line, a secure support second line and supporting "light infantry" screen to protect the flank and rear, it would quickly lose efficacy. I do agree, however, that potions are rarely used by fighters for themselves, as they are usually a costly resource (at least in all LARPs I have ever attended) and are only used when other methods of healing are not available.
@achabotte
@achabotte 2 жыл бұрын
I like the randomness in DND, why you roll for HP restored so you can narrate the difficulty in drinking a potion during combat.
@luchoman91
@luchoman91 2 жыл бұрын
If one was a knight and had squires to assist him, how about having the squire handle the potions? That way the actual fighter can keep fighting and the squire can take care of pulling out the potion, uncorking it, and at the right moment hand it to the knight to drink it. Squires already assist knights with dressing in armor, mounting horses, and handing them extra weapons when needed - why not the potions? And since this is a more adventure-fantasy setting, maybe you're looking at this from a solo adventurer perspective but having a party or at the very least a partner who handled potions would potentially cut out a lot of these mechanical issues.
@bragnir
@bragnir 2 жыл бұрын
Or, even if there's no viable way to drink the potion *during* a fight, a vial of liquid that instantly closes your wounds would be *terrific* post-battle medicine. Not all wounds are immediatelly fatal and bloodloss is a thing.
@ericrawlins6849
@ericrawlins6849 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine trying to drink a healing potion in the middle of combat would be risky for all of the reasons you mentioned, but also, if you inhale at the wrong time, you could spend several precious seconds coughing and choking, ample time for your opponent to do whatever they want.
@Fallenangel_85
@Fallenangel_85 2 жыл бұрын
You don't really need to go for killing blows against potions. Disable the hands/arms and drinking it becomes impossible in a fight :) Or "liberate" the potions from it's owner so he can't use them.
@foxtrotzero3184
@foxtrotzero3184 2 жыл бұрын
In the name of god... What a good idea! How come i never think of this,now i can leave my enemy to *SUFFER* more! Thx dude 😁☺️😁
@santi_super_stunts2573
@santi_super_stunts2573 2 жыл бұрын
Or you can liberate their life and not deal with any of that crap
@viniciussoarescamargo4550
@viniciussoarescamargo4550 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, also if the enemy is more vulnerable while drinking a potion, hurting him will be worth it, since he'll need to use his potion.
@marcuslobo5765
@marcuslobo5765 2 жыл бұрын
George Lucas took your advice to heart before u posted this
@BretekV
@BretekV 2 жыл бұрын
Private: Sir, who needs fighting skills in a potion fight anyway. Instructor: put your hand on that wall *throws dagger and pins the hand to the wall* Instructor: The enemy cannot drink his potion if you disable his hand. Medic!
@peaceandloveusa6656
@peaceandloveusa6656 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate how Oz is really quite tactically smart. Both of his ideas were really quite good: Try to catch their weapon before drinking it, and use the environment for cover and distance. Sounds like he should have made this video. lol
@brendanmorgan109
@brendanmorgan109 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Loved that dodge around the tree. Sometimes you forget how creative people can get when trying to stay alive. All bets out the window and suddenly their's a knife in your armpit after you drew first blood.
@charlesmartinez5869
@charlesmartinez5869 2 жыл бұрын
The beer dispensing football helmet is the ultimate piece of practical adventuring gear.
@davidtays3625
@davidtays3625 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard that "giving quarter" was a concept done both in duels and in battles. Combatants would tire, get confused, or entire squads would get lost somewhere. So taking a period of time for both sides to get sorted out, or for duelists to take a breather, was considered appropriate. Not giving/taking quarter would end with mass confusion, armies killing their own troops on accident, and duels ending with both sides looking exhausted and messy rather than heroic.
@TheAlison1456
@TheAlison1456 2 жыл бұрын
That makes the pun name from the intro cutscene of Shovel Knight actually somewhat funny.
@hydraulichydra8363
@hydraulichydra8363 2 жыл бұрын
I thought "giving quarter" meant taking prisoners (as opposed to simply killing defeated enemies.)
@Whatthetrash
@Whatthetrash 2 жыл бұрын
Something I didn't see mentioned in the video (but you made me think of) is that if potions were real, everyone would just go into battle with essentially a straw in their mouth like they're laying in a dentist's chair. Think Dune, but instead of a hose going into their nose, it goes into their mouth -- with the other end connected to a health potion. It would just be commonplace that everyone would have these since they're so useful. Following that, a common first line of attack would be to break or cut these straws that everyone is using. That way they'd have to fall back onto just drinking the potions by hand, but honestly if someone's trying to kill you, they're not going to give you the chance to do that. So, following that -- if potions were real: 1.) Everyone would just go into battle with a straw in their mouth 2.) Battles would take longer as people get hurt, recover, hurt, recover and keep on fighting until they can't any more (or run out of potions). 3.) Battle would shift to being more deadly (like you said -- about killing the other person as soon as possible), or about cutting the straw that they have to their health potion -- and THEN killing them as soon as possible. This is such a fun video and definitely made me think about the consequences of if potions were real. Good stuff. Cheers! :)
@tornadix99
@tornadix99 2 жыл бұрын
What if and would this work in potions?: - Potion of healing injectors: I mean, a tiny needle is nothing when it heals your full body, but be wary of not puting air in the veins. That is death. - Drench the robes or shirt in healing potions: Is this the reason behind passive health regeneration in videogames? - Alternate orifices in wich the potion can enter the body: Inhalers trough the nose... Or trough the ear? Or... y'know, be careful when sitting. - Pills? Pills would be better. Idk.
@LucasSantos-si4nd
@LucasSantos-si4nd 2 жыл бұрын
*PILLS HERE*
@homeworksdone2378
@homeworksdone2378 2 жыл бұрын
The potion can be held in a hand behind a small shield, or just attached to the shield. Alternatively, a teammate is incredibly valuable as you can watch each other’s back as you take turns drinking.
@adaeptzulander2928
@adaeptzulander2928 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say. Did Shad ever see how this was done in Dragon Age: Origins? That is exactly how they do it, and PC and NPC can drink their potion very fast.
@bendover9620
@bendover9620 2 жыл бұрын
That teammate suggestion, wouldn't it make more sense to have a healer with healing powers instead of having a dude stacking a shit-ton of potions?
@kaderloop785
@kaderloop785 2 жыл бұрын
@@bendover9620 Depending on your magic system, the effectiveness of healing powers (if they even exist) and/or their drawbacks, it might
@VegetaLF7
@VegetaLF7 2 жыл бұрын
@@bendover9620 I don't know, I do love the idea of a dude just chugging potion after potion like a frat boy's first party just behind the front lines.
@leandersearle5094
@leandersearle5094 2 жыл бұрын
@@bendover9620 I don't know, if it took spell slots, and the entire team treated you like that was all you were good for, you would probably burn through a lot of healers that way.
@Casedilla73
@Casedilla73 2 жыл бұрын
“Honey, it’s time to stop drinking health potions now.” “But Mom, just 500 more minutes! One for each of my health potions!”
@totallynuts7595
@totallynuts7595 Жыл бұрын
One of the little things in Witcher 2 that I liked was that drinking potions was turned into a ritual, so you couldn't pop one during combat, you had to choose exactly three to consume before you went in. And they weren't weak either. They didn't account for you being trash at combat, but they did give you quite a significant edge, so your time/money investment in those potions and oils wasn't a waste.
@SugaryPhoenixxx
@SugaryPhoenixxx 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are having too much fun making this video! Gave me a good laugh, thank you.
@philipjohnson3225
@philipjohnson3225 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being mortally wounded, and being too weak to get the cork out of your Greater Health potion, so you have to turn to the Lesser Health Potion (which has a screw top) just to gain the strength to open your Greater Health potion.
@mathis8210
@mathis8210 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that in some games like e.g. Skyrim you can just go to the inventory and munch some 50 loafs of bread in the middle of combat, i think games like dark souls are handling this really well with restricting your movement a bit and actually making you vulnerable during drinking it.
@overlorddante
@overlorddante 2 жыл бұрын
Same with stimpacks in fallout. Unless you're paused in the menu, there's not only an animation you're locked into, your health doesn't instantly return which prolongs your vulnerability. I quite like that idea.
@snuckytoes8427
@snuckytoes8427 2 жыл бұрын
That’s part of my love for the Monster Hunter games. You can’t run or attack while drinking a potion.
@jonathant8575
@jonathant8575 2 жыл бұрын
@@snuckytoes8427 The Black Masses (Early Access Steam game) does this too. In order to heal you need to actually drink the potion, and you heal by one point per ml of potion drunk.
@fate3071
@fate3071 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that even red dead redemption makes you use an animation for using items, even if it doesn't have "potions" per se
@puckingfickles
@puckingfickles 2 жыл бұрын
I really apriciate when they were in the bind at the beginning, and Shad's face was just "what are we doing?" And just taps him on the head
@AmitCinematicUniverse
@AmitCinematicUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite healer is Recovery Girl from My Hero Academia. When she heals you, it costs you your stamina, and there is a limit to how much she can her a person. Occasionally, she has to perform a surgery before healing a person, and they can still suffer some permanent damage if they were too injured or had exhausted themselves before she healed them.
@christinabunbun9272
@christinabunbun9272 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine a good game balance is that health potions are real, but are incredibly alcoholic, and overuse would make you too out of it to fight. It could also tie well into addiction etc
@randomthegreat2329
@randomthegreat2329 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lil bit like Witcher potions (at least in games they are all brewed with quite decent alcohol and are quite toxic lore-wise) xD
@thex9165
@thex9165 2 жыл бұрын
the final fight will be fun
@Rakaziel
@Rakaziel 2 жыл бұрын
Go Westerly does this xD
@jamoecw
@jamoecw 2 жыл бұрын
kingdom come:deliverance does this (all potions are a bit alcoholic in the game).
@Merilirem
@Merilirem 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure i would make them alcoholic but the idea is good. Personally i just think it would make sense for them to have effects like a Stamina or healing potion making you even more exhausted when it runs its course. Like coffee or a sugar rush. Anything that pushes your system to its limits or beyond would exhaust you after its effect ends. Other things might just inhibit your bodies natural functions due to the potions taking that role. That happens with drugs too.
@erikvale3194
@erikvale3194 2 жыл бұрын
I'm now imagining militaries issuing beer hats lf healing. Or the marathon running backpacks that have a straw that goes from the bag to your mouth. Also, NWN has animations for drinking healing potions mid combat. And using them results I'm you getting attacked by close by enemies.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 2 жыл бұрын
30s into the video and wondering if one of those hats is going to show up.
@elvacoburg1279
@elvacoburg1279 2 жыл бұрын
even better, build a beer hat into a helmet - protects and heals
@ghostfox7826
@ghostfox7826 2 жыл бұрын
Beer helmet with health pot on one side and stam pot on the other)
@realdragon
@realdragon 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea for modern fantasy
@TheNetsrac
@TheNetsrac 2 жыл бұрын
I was just about to suggest beer hats as well or rather potion helmets 😄
@greatclubsandwich5612
@greatclubsandwich5612 2 жыл бұрын
Oz running around a tree drinking while Shad yells madly is such meme material like... My dad trying to catch me at 3yo because I'm drinking the secret koolaid he keeps In the garage...
@Whiterin
@Whiterin 2 жыл бұрын
- You could always fill your mouth with potion at the start of the fight so all you have to do is swallow if you get injured. - Or have potions that do healing for a set time so you can drink it before battle and have it heal wounds you get for X amount of time. - Maybe have easier delivery systems. Edible potion "vials", globes, or capsules of some sort. Like a Tide pod, but in reverse. lol - Potion gelatine snacks or gummies? lol
@ampeyro
@ampeyro 2 жыл бұрын
Beer hat, but with healing potions = best tank build ever.
@jonash7119
@jonash7119 2 жыл бұрын
is ther even any way to counter that, besides like an explosion to the face to cnock it off, anything that wouldnt just kill the person anyway?
@bl4cksp1d3r
@bl4cksp1d3r 2 жыл бұрын
"You should've gone for the head
@22yhjjjj
@22yhjjjj 2 жыл бұрын
If potions were a real thing, science would have advanced to the point where they could be a chewy gummy. You just keep it in your mouth, bite on it for a bit to get the material into your saliva, and drink your saliva to heal. ... Someone should write about that.
@Merilirem
@Merilirem 2 жыл бұрын
Nice idea but it depends on the actual method of its effect. You can't turn anything into a gum and have it work. Science doesn't just gradually make things possible at certain speeds. I read a lot of Chinese comics and the healing pills they often use in those definitely seem more practical.
@Matias_el_Mago
@Matias_el_Mago 2 жыл бұрын
Just like in Tales of Phantasia, I use that in my writings.
@Takamiki
@Takamiki 2 жыл бұрын
@@Merilirem a novel i been reading has one type of healing potion they could get as drops from dungeons has the liquid in a plastic like capsule, and what some adventures would do is keep 1 or 2 in their mouth and bite down when they need it, downside of these potion types is they are harder to get, cause you need to fight and defeat a dungeon monster to have a chance to get one to drop, and they have diminishing effect after consecutive use in a day.
@Merilirem
@Merilirem 2 жыл бұрын
@@Takamiki I sure hope the capsule melts or something. That seems like a choking hazard.
@Takamiki
@Takamiki 2 жыл бұрын
@@Merilirem they do melt the moment the capsule is broken, cause dungeon magic xD
@thedude1812
@thedude1812 2 жыл бұрын
I had two possible ideas for getting potions out quickly. 1: have an enchantment on the potion bottle that holds it shut until it basically detects the user's essence in two places (i.e. one hand on the bottom of the bottle, the other on the top). at that point the holding enchantment dissipates and you can simply flip the cap off. idea 2: edible potion capsules/ capsules you put in your mouth and use pressure from your bite to open. As always, great video Shad! Thanks for doing stuff like this.
@pizzaparty3901
@pizzaparty3901 2 жыл бұрын
It also really depends on how quickly the health potion works...in some games you can just drink through damage.
@wastelesslearning1245
@wastelesslearning1245 2 жыл бұрын
Adventures may need those cheesy beverage (potion) sipping hats. “It was his hat mr crabs; he was number one!”. Potion Sippy Hats aside, it could also be posable perhaps; instead of using glass and corks to instead use some sort of edible liquid tight membrane; so the adventurer can quickly Shove the entire bottle into his mouth chew and swallow- to avoid having to uncork or open a lid. Potion gushy gummys or magically pressurized Syringes? Or like Shad said keep a mouthful of healing potion prepared before battle; then simply swallow if your injured.
@ymiros0953
@ymiros0953 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, potion sippy hats was also my first thought. Doesn't even need to be a hat though, you could have a waterskin or something strapped to your bag with a tube to your mouth (Although that would mean you'd have to first suck out some air out of the tube)
@vineveer4358
@vineveer4358 2 жыл бұрын
The edible membrane is a pretty good idea. Like a tide pod. xD Don't eat tide pods.
@mystikalmadness8739
@mystikalmadness8739 2 жыл бұрын
That edible membrane thing exists already irl so its not so far fetched an idea
@agsilverradio2225
@agsilverradio2225 2 жыл бұрын
Or if the potion can work as an injectable, an I.V. hookup could would too.
@abyssaljoey7695
@abyssaljoey7695 2 жыл бұрын
Like "Tales of" gels???
@Bacteriophagebs
@Bacteriophagebs 2 жыл бұрын
The question isn't "can you drink potions in combat?" the question is "can you drink them fast enough to counteract all the wounds you get while trying to drink during combat?"
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 жыл бұрын
that's the reason why in-combat healing by clerics is often considered suboptimal - they can keep their side healthier by just smiting the enemies with divine power.
@ruga-ventoj
@ruga-ventoj 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusc9931 it's only sub optimal if ever thing else is optimal. Everyone hits their damage, everyone gets average damage or up, and if all focus fires properly. However combat can get super messy, super quick. Barbarian is charmed, paladin is hypnotized, wizard is crit'ed on. Having a Cleric to emergency Mass Heal is never sub optimal when you need it.
@RorytheRomulan
@RorytheRomulan 2 жыл бұрын
In Pathfinder there is a special alchemical sponge that you can soak with any potion and then eat when ready. It removes the problem of the liquid getting anywhere and the need for any cork or stoppering function. And you don't have to fret over breaking glass. You can pull it out in the middle of a fight, put it in your mouth, and just chew.
@THE_Glass_Grizzly
@THE_Glass_Grizzly 2 жыл бұрын
I've gotten around this in a different way in my games. There are two types of healing potions, one that you take before a fight that has a slow regeneration effect (it's a slow acting potion so you'd drink it say, ten minutes before a fight then regen two hit points a round) and a rapid regeneration potion that you'd take after a fight that would heal you much quicker at a six points a round but for a lot less healing. I've never been a fan of the "instant healing" potion. Still, loved the video and the concept! I never realized how truly difficult they would be to use in a fight.
@jamesm783
@jamesm783 2 жыл бұрын
in pathfinder 1e, there's a thing called "divine fighting styles" Martial techniques inspired by some of the gods, and used by their followers. One of these styles is called "Cayden Cailean's Blade and Tankard" and is inspired by a god of drink, revelry, and general heroics. It involves fighting with a weapon in your main hand, and a tankard in the offhand, using the tankard to bludgeon your opponent with, while also storing a liquid in it, sometimes a healing potion to take a quick swig of, sometimes just booze to splash in the face of your opponent. your talk of fighting one-handed with a potion in the offhand reminded me of this
@Greideren
@Greideren 2 жыл бұрын
Huh not a bad idea. Keep the handle of your dagger hollow (or a small tube in a small, relatively light shield) and fill it with a healing potion/s. Drink as needed.
@goodoldgrim
@goodoldgrim 2 жыл бұрын
If potions were real, soldiers would carry potion-filled camelbacks, like long distance cross country runners do now with water.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 жыл бұрын
@ye or maybe nah or there would be an arms race of poison effects that disable healing
@guyclykos
@guyclykos 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusc9931 or something that goes boom... like a warhead.
@colinmoore7460
@colinmoore7460 2 жыл бұрын
@ye or maybe nah resident evil used blue herb to cure poison, and if I remember correctly red stopped bleeding, green restored health and a mix of all three was the all in one.
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 2 жыл бұрын
@@guyclykos they already have fireballs. obviously, if you one-shot someone, he won't heal.
@filfil9902
@filfil9902 2 жыл бұрын
They do but it is in tablets instead of drink. It is just easier to transport Light tablets than liquid that can spill.
@Hust91
@Hust91 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a fun story where the character invented leather sacs full of healing potion that you kept in your cheek. If you get injured, you move the bag out of your cheek and bite down on it to release the healing potion.
@tas640
@tas640 2 жыл бұрын
Hip flask with an elongated straw that you could put in the pouch closest to your face so you could drink it whenever you need. There could be a twisting mechanism at where the straw attaches to the flask that stops liquid coming out until you give it a quick easy twist.
@alexanderschweinehunde167
@alexanderschweinehunde167 2 жыл бұрын
I think the estus in dark souls fills this role nicely. Extremely long time that leaves you exposed…only a quick swig from a flask. The pvp revolves around avoiding insta kills and borderline suicidal tactics like poise backstabs
@-ShiraZen-
@-ShiraZen- 2 жыл бұрын
- "I think the estus in dark souls fills this role nicely." In Dark Souls 1 maybe. In 2 and 3 your character chugs like it's a college frat party, and it's impossible to stop people from healing without never getting out of their face.
@DS_DoggerX
@DS_DoggerX 2 жыл бұрын
@@-ShiraZen- You've never played DS2, have you?
@tbc1880
@tbc1880 2 жыл бұрын
Or old monster hunter with the flex potions. Though the run and chug also kinda works.
@Blue-fg8vt
@Blue-fg8vt 2 жыл бұрын
@@tbc1880 Yeah I mean who would sit still. Sure you can't run without choking or spilling but you can walk
@darkrager872
@darkrager872 2 жыл бұрын
@@-ShiraZen- Man literally doesn't even know what dark souls 2 is
@ericmotta1
@ericmotta1 2 жыл бұрын
I like that in DS1 you can't chug in your enemy's face and have to make a tactical retreat to heal, like getting some distance or wait for your opponent to miss an attack and heal during the recovery animation or the most ridiculous of all, healing with your back against the wall.
@bodyrumuae2914
@bodyrumuae2914 Жыл бұрын
If the technology for tubes available and had potions you could use in combat for benefits, like these potions that heal you instantly or over time just by drinking it, then could combine those with head ware and make like the beer helmet, but for potions. I guess, maybe a helmet with steins welded to the helmet, a hole for the tube, then another hole to fill it up that doesn't have the lid to reduce spillage, but a bunghole so loss is minimalized to the tube/s.
@TieDyeRich
@TieDyeRich 2 жыл бұрын
The skit at the beginning... love it :)
@BarokaiRein
@BarokaiRein 2 жыл бұрын
I'd wager that if I can find openings to keep drinking beer during a bar fight I'd probably be able to shug down a tiny potion real quick in combat as well.
@ZiemniakzUa
@ZiemniakzUa 2 жыл бұрын
Tying the vial to your belt by a cork seems the most logical to me. So they're just hanging there safely, and when you need to use one you just pull it down, and then you have an opened vial in your hand, and a cork hanging by your belt. No problem with those pesky corks anymore ;)
@jonash7119
@jonash7119 2 жыл бұрын
Doing that kind of opens up the potion for attack. So it shuld be in a protected or even armored pocket. Being able to open the potion with just one arm and without using theet is ideal.
@ZiemniakzUa
@ZiemniakzUa 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonash7119 First of all in HEMA you usually don't go for the legs, because you get less reach atacking this low. Secondly even then there are ways around the issue. The simplest one would be to attach them to the back of your belt. That way they're only at risk from attacks from behind, and if you open your back to the opponent you have bigger problems, than some broken bottles. The more complex way would be to... armor up those vials! Use metal ones, or if for some reason you can't - put them in protective containers. Maybe something similar to basket hilt? I guess it depends on how common and expensive potions are. If they're abundant, and cheap, you wouldn't mind if some get destroyed in a fight, otherwise - basket hilts for vials it is!
@Koushakur
@Koushakur 2 жыл бұрын
That would for sure spill out a sizeable portion of the potion. You'd need to pull fast and hard and you'd kinda literarily pull the bottle away from the liquid.
@greentjmtl
@greentjmtl 2 жыл бұрын
Or you just end up with a bunch of corks hanging on your belt when you need a potion.
@ZiemniakzUa
@ZiemniakzUa 2 жыл бұрын
@@greentjmtl Placement doesn't really matter in that scenario. If you run out of potions - you ran out of potions.
@tonybaggett1984
@tonybaggett1984 2 жыл бұрын
The sword flopping around when they hit makes the gag that much more funny.
@GreviousGKoopa
@GreviousGKoopa 2 жыл бұрын
When shad talked about the problem with getting the potion out, then downing it, the first thing that came to my head was the Gatorade squirt bottles, it would be much easier to consume than the ones he had lol.
@maurobianchin8862
@maurobianchin8862 2 жыл бұрын
A possible solution would be to use something solid instead of a liquid. Pills, crystals or even just a slice of bread soaked in a potion and then dried would be easier to carry and use, but it depends on the rules of that world concerning potions and magic. Also depending on how effective the potion is, you just need to avoid a fatal blow while consuming it since it could heal you from any injury sustained during the process. Again, it depends on the setting.
@t.w.7057
@t.w.7057 2 жыл бұрын
Something like a fish oil tablet’d work to if it must be liquid
@imo098765
@imo098765 2 жыл бұрын
@@t.w.7057 I was thinking what could be used to hold the liquid. I thought something along the line of hollowed egg shells or some other waterproof container that can be bit through.
@Hawk013
@Hawk013 2 жыл бұрын
Senzu beans yo...
@Merilirem
@Merilirem 2 жыл бұрын
They use pills a lot in Chinese and Korean stuff.
@CtrlFreak1337
@CtrlFreak1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@imo098765 So... Health-potion Tide Pods?
@hdnfbp
@hdnfbp 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine in a steampunk world, where hazard workers and soldiers have injectors in their bodies to avoid death from accidents and combat, aside from keeping them moving with stamina potions
@absolstoryoffiction6615
@absolstoryoffiction6615 2 жыл бұрын
Injectors are extremely volatile if it's like Bloodborne's healing vials. One miss on the specific blood vain... Dead. Although, something like Bane (Batman) would be a better injector but without the overly sized and revealing clear tubes.
@hdnfbp
@hdnfbp 2 жыл бұрын
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 depending on the universe, those could even be deep on the skin and muscle to try countering it, obviously, it depends on the type of potion, if it's a magic potion you could even use a perfume spray
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo 2 жыл бұрын
Made me think of Bioshock.
@Felixr2
@Felixr2 2 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting solution would be a helmet that has a built-in straw connected to a potion storage you have somewhere on your armor. If you want light armor, maybe the potion storage is just a small compartment of your helmet. Not only does this give you very quick and comfortable access to your potion (you could even have separate straws for healing and stamina potions), but the helmet would also be a vital piece of armor when combat is solely oriented around death blows.
@Fjuron
@Fjuron 2 жыл бұрын
12:45 Shad - The silliest looking warrior who also achieved immortality through his super advanced practical techniques.
RUN!
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