Using Statistics to Predict a Recruit's Overall in College Football 25 Dynasty!

LINK TO THE GOOGLE SHEET TO USE THIS YOURSELF: bit.ly/predict...
Instructions:
1. Click on the link and go to 'file' then 'save a copy' if you're signed into a google account
2. Go to the 2 highlighted cells and enter the position and number of stars you want to predict
3. Check out the result!
Pro tip: If you get an error, make sure you are using a valid position on the list in the google sheet!
Okay, had to drop all the google sheet info but anyways, HERE WE ARE!! This has been our single most ambitious CFB 25 project yet. This was a BLAST to make, but I would love to hear any and all opinions y'all have! If you want to be able to predict the overall of any recruit in college football 25, just let me know and we can add the capability to do this for transfers and juco players too!!
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[@blakeluker1425]

Max coming through with the most GOATd scientifically backed recruiting methods.

[@maxplayscfb]

Thank you!!! Can’t believe other people also enjoy this stuff, I always thought it was just me!

[@LucaDimperio-dq3yf]

Not just you, but not that many people sadly. Thanks for what you do

[@blakeluker1425]

@maxplayscfb No bro I absolutely love the data behind things like. Especially since EA doesn't give enough data to me to distinguish recruits from on another. Yes it's a video game but if I am scouting and recruiting a player I should know their potential somewhat besides random skill caps

[@michaeldorsey8503]

Max you 🐐’d my boy a legend

[@StephenTheodore-fb6jl]

Dude you are getting quoted in CFB 25 news articles. I use every one of your videos. Whether it is gameplay or recruiting.

[@justinpumputis8443]

This dude needs more attention, one of the best CFB25 pages with actual useful information

[@supaman321123]

Selfishly I dont want him to be popular for my online dynasty lol

[@danielmorrow7154]

@@supaman321123Exactly!

[@saintsebastian]

Facts

[@vandairgaming481]

Yes! I heavily heavily HEAVILY advocate for this model to be improved upon and be a lot more complex to handle all types of players. I'm an extremely avid Dynasty player, and would 1000% love for this to be improved upon. Please keep it up!!

[@colezirbel4549]

I think a good idea for a new video would be how much of an effect pipelines have on recruiting. Great video as usual🤝

[@zacharyrogers1071]

Currently running with UTSA and they don't have any high pipelines and I can still get good recruits. It's about 15% of the total equation

[@philphil1766]

Playing time Letter grade gives you and educated guess and can help you decide which players you want to scout. Keep in mind who's on your current roster and what year they're in.

[@masonrock]

This actually makes a lot of sense. You should be going after development traits and raw stats. College has that really great off season progression system (that Madden DESPERATELY needs) that allows players to grow exponentially. So a 3 star recruit with great traits will likely be higher OVR going into year 2 than a 4 star with no traits. Which is what we see in real life all the time. The players with “that dog” perform better and soar higher regardless of where they started.

[@maxplayscfb]

True, we should prob look and try to answer the question “does national rank matter for dev traits” too

[@C21-hv8ch]

Significant development almost never occurs in the NFL. The best players in the league almost exclusively were stars if not superstars immediately. Madden is supposed to be an NFL simulation. Asking for the introduction of ludicrous development for the game of the pro sports league that almost never sees it is asinine.

[@masonrock]

@ what are you talking about? Isiah Pacheco, Patrick Mahomes, Puka Nacua, Max Crosby, Tyreek Hill, Russell Wilson, Richard Sherman, Drew Brees, Tom Brady… what the hell are you talking about? None of them were high draft picks or expected to succeed in the league.

[@caseybaker5875]

@@maxplayscfb would love to see how gems and busts factor into overalls or dev traits as well!

[@tylersimmons6524]

​@maxplayscfb IMO, this (and skills) are the next steps. Does ranking mean anything for either dev trait or skill badges? I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was NO. The game doesn't take rank into account for anything else, and you'll see blue blood programs going after low ranked 3 stars often. I've often thought, "It's week 6. Why the heck is Ohio State actively recruiting the 1800th best recruit in the nation??"

[@nwproductions5763]

Best strategy I’ve gone with when it came to picking linemen… the heavier the better. Pick the ones who are well over 300lbs and chances are their blocking is high 70s to low 80s

[@drekuan]

they’re slow asl, have terrible speed ratings when you need them to move downfield or pull

[@nwproductions5763]

@ Mf that doesn’t matter. Everyone does 80% pass 20% run lol. 1% screen pass.

[@PaytonTYG]

​@@drekuanAgile ATH OTs and Heavy OGs combo is the way to go

[@kegstandin06]

Bro what kind of online dynasty are you in? People passing 80% of the time are gonna be in for a bad time vs top notch players. Even in online ranked its hard to pass 80% of the time vs ppl that win 80% or more of their games. ​@nwproductions5763

[@chadraybon4822]

Max is actually the GOAT of CFB content.

[@frogalex8915]

I was telling my buddy the other day idk how he only has like 13k followers when a guy like poodle who just spews trash is way over that. The injustice in this world

[@CKBowling1]

@@frogalex8915 I watch a lot of Poodle's videos, some of his stuff makes sense but I feel like a lot of it is subjective to preference.

[@Badger8th]

Max, I think the best way to take this sheet to the next level is to figure out what are the 5-6 most valuable attributes towards a player's overall rating for that position. That should help us make a determination between 2 similarly rated prospects. I wish I had the math abilities to make this. Outstanding work sir!

[@maxplayscfb]

Holy cow that would be awesome, but the only issue is it would take 5-6x as long to collect all those stats!!! I almost wonder if that’s a separate but related project: “If you know a player’s speed, awareness, and 1 more stat, can you predict their overall?”

[@patchesohulahan]

Another day, another victory for the OG. Keep up the great work!

[@zachstanden7740]

your explanations of statistics is really great. Really appreciate your insights!

[@hatch694]

I think that the playing time grade is a great indicator of overall, if you have decent depth in the position.

[@carsonnicoletti2237]

This is awesome. Hopefully this video blows up. Great work man!

[@joehusbands8538]

I appreciate how detailed and to the point ur videos are. Thanks man.

[@maxplayscfb]

I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!

[@joehusbands8538]

@maxplayscfb made the comment before I knew there was a Google sheet. Calm down king.

[@maxplayscfb]

ahahahahaha

[@chrisjk8]

Thank you for all the videos about recruiting! One of the only clear sources on how it works. Go Ball State!!!

[@maxplayscfb]

I appreciate that! Glad it was helpful!!

[@majidwheeler2172]

You can tell by the playing time grades if you have two recruits on your board and one player has a c+ grade and the other has a a+ clearly the a+ has an higher overall

[@henrycavillsrealmustache3553]

Playing time grade i believe is determined by the amount of seniors at the position because if they get drafted or leave… the incoming player would get PT. Or maybe its just a factor because that is listed at the “my team” page as a factor for playing time grade

[@palmmoot]

​@@henrycavillsrealmustache3553Playing time grade changes based on who you recruit. If you've got a 3* QB with B+ PT and then you put a 5* gem on your board that 3* PT grade will drop. You can use this when targeting multiple different players of the same position, whoever has the highest PT grade is the highest overall.

[@ghostrobot3714]

What I've seen regarding the 500 vs 1500, in about 40 seasons worth of recruits, is pretty much as you describe. The overalls are similar, but the 500's are more likely to have better caps and dev traits. It makes sense in that when these players leave high school, all as 3-stars, the gaps between them won't be as large, hence lumping them into such a large group. The correlation to recruit ranking would then potentially be more longitudinal, as throughout their college career that #500 guy distances himself from that #1,500 guy. More anecdotal than scientific, but I've had very few players in the 1,000+ ranking that had any sort of long-term potential, and plenty in the 5-600 range.

[@talonbray8243]

The GOAT Max doing it again, lets see more of this! Loving your channel and I hope we get to see a bigger model

[@maxplayscfb]

Thank you!!! Def will spend some time in December building this out and improving it

[@bigbuddah180]

He explained to me how I was feeling in my head about these recruiting classes. Thx

[@maxplayscfb]

Happy to help!

[@jackharrison3275]

This is actually so cool, it would be awesome for it to include all transfers and jucos and such!

[@maxplayscfb]

thank you!!! already putting time on my calendar for the holiday season to lock in here and build out this model

[@bencarrasquillo]

Love this, and appreciate the work you’re doing! Would be awesome if you kept going forward with the other types of prospects, but this provides a pretty substantial guideline already.

[@maxplayscfb]

awesome, thanks for watching!!! i will def spend this holiday season trying to get smarter on the other types of prospects

[@bkirty3280]

this is awesome, great work

[@alexperez1320]

Now this guy knows how to drop useful information 🔥

[@maxplayscfb]

Thank you!!

[@ChrisPBacon-zo9cm]

Could we see some similar analysis done for "Playing Time" from the "MySchool" grades page?

[@JordanLittel]

Gotta make a video based on coaching archetypes.. specifically outside of the main three (recruiter/tactician/motivator). I don’t think there’s enough in-depth content on how good talent developer/architect/strategist is

[@blahblahblah4226]

You’re putting R to good use! Amazing insights

[@gerardthompson196]

And this is why education matters to us gamers. Max pushes it to another level. Thanks again!

[@GrizzTurner]

I started a dynasty with Houston, won the championship in my first season last night. 6 of my starters left the team because of “Pro Potential”.

[@StephenTheodore-fb6jl]

I would love a good pro potential guide. Right now I just try to develop them and get them stats. I don't think I have had a single draft under 88 OVR

[@GoenShowa]

THIS IS WHY SOME OF TEAMS HAVE THE SAME OVERALLS 5 YEARS IN

[@azure_azure]

Great idea, always wondered about national ranking. I will have to do some experimenting myself to see if higher national rank in the 3 stars correlates to gems or not. Intuitively you would think so but I think you laid a strong case that it probably doesn't and all star classifications are lumped in the same bucket of possibilities.

[@Skooppoopity]

Idk how you do it max, but kudos. Doing gods work out here.

[@Slightwrkmik]

Great work well thought out

[@maxplayscfb]

thank you and thanks for watching!!!!

[@whitedude91]

Homie doing the lords work

[@maxplayscfb]

Thank you!!

[@jackcampbell1704]

please update even more You're the GOAT

[@maxplayscfb]

Will do!!

[@chrisflohr26]

I’m using this, but in my online dynasty I just recruited 2 five star players that turned out to be 69 and 66 overall with elite and star development. So that’s sucks a little bit but I also had some three stars that were 77 overall

[@maxplayscfb]

Holllyyyy cow, that’s a sign that I need to try to double me number of datapoints to hopefully account for some of those weird cases

[@marlogaletovic2520]

Max, using google sheets/excel to calculate this is awesome!

[@maxplayscfb]

Thank you!!! I’ll try to make more public tools like this going forward

[@wadetaylor269]

Bruh, awesome video! Very surprising result! But good to know!

[@maxplayscfb]

Thank you! And yeah the national rank thing is shocking to me, I really hope at least the dev traits are based on that!!

[@Je-Razor]

Could be interesting to see how the overall are for JUCO players compared to HS players with the same amount of stars.

[@kyle61525]

Great work as always

[@maxplayscfb]

Appreciate that!!

[@scasper1010]

This is the best channel

[@kylehunter1244]

Makes sense that overall within star group would be compressed. EA won't give out ratings below 50 (usually) for stats that matter within their archetype. And I can't imagine them taking the time to program in a linear relationship between National Rank and starting overall. Easier/lazier to set random range within star grouping.

[@Zprod93]

I have had a 2 star gem develop into a 94 overall player by his SR year. Granted I had all the tactician and motivator abilities. But from that I just basically recruit only gems of any star rating besides 1 stars.

[@maxplayscfb]

wow, did he have awesome dev traits / play really well????

[@shrimpdickandthefishboat]

Legend, thank you

[@parkerdarnell2913]

This is why your the goat

[@johnmurphy9286]

Another tidbit is once you offer a scholarship, you can look at their playing time rating and compare that to other recruits you have at that same position. The higher the rating, the higher the overall.

[@MTheroy]

Interesting, this has been reliable consistently?

[@maxplayscfb]

Has anyone been able to prove this? I’ve heard it a bit but no hard confirmation. Kinda want to look into it as a potential video topic!

[@zclay7839]

Would love a full build of this!

[@danreitz8864]

If you include "Playing Time", you should be able to figure it out exactly. And regarding transfers, I'm pretty sure they are ranked by OVR, you just don't get to see the OVR when they enter the portal.

[@Wakaflockabach]

My recruiting method: First of all, be a recruiter archetype, buy the first level (scouting) for all positions except special teams. 1) Sort by top 8 school, add all 5 stars. Why not top 10? because after 1 week they may move on to top 8 and lock you out. Feel free to look at where they stand in recruiting interest and if they are no where near their top 8 yet and this isnt a risk, feel free to add them. 2) Sort by 4 stars and top school. Add all players. top 3, add all. top 5, add all. top 8 add all. same philosophy on the top 10. they may lock you out, so see where theyre at. 3) Sort by my pipelne. add all 5 stars in your pipeline with purple or gold pipeline status that dont have interest in you. you should be able to play quick catchup on these guys based on pipeline influence. if you dont already have 35 targets 4) sort by my pipeline. add all 4 stars in your pipeline with purple or gold pipeline status that dont have interest in you. you should be able to play quick catchup on these guys based on pipeline influence. If you still dont have 35 targets 5) add 5 stars in silver. 6) add 4 stars in silver. 7) add 5 stars in bronze. 8) add 4 stars in bronze. If you still dont have 35 targets, its probably because you're not there in your school to recruit these guys. So, fill out the remained of your board with 3 stars in the same method i have described. 9) offer all 35 guys scholarships. This is 175 hours. 10) scout your 4 stars. I am offering the 5 stars even if they are busts. I am looking to eliminate bust 4 stars. 11) remove all the bust 4 stars and replace them on your board with more 4 stars picking up wherever on the pecking order you left off. 12) make sure to offer the new players scholarships. 13) advance to week 0 Most important week 14) assess your standing. You may have to bail out on recruiting battles immediately. if you are a silver pipeline and you are in 8th place to georgia with a purple pipeline on a 5 star... bail. there is plenty to go around, DO NOT GET ATTACHED. Cut bait on all the guys you realistically do not have a shot on. 15) go through your board. narrow down your targets. 1QB, 1RB, 1TE, 2WR, 5OL (any position), 2DE, 2DT (I recruit 4 DE and move the slowest DEs to DT), 3LB, 2CB, 2S. This is 21 guys. I redshirt the entire class and after 5 yrs of recruiting the exact position count, i have a Red Shirt Sr, Red Shirt Junior, Red Shirt Sophomore, Red Shirt Freshman, and Freshman on my squad. Including K, P, and FB once every 5 years, I have 108 guys that needs to be trimmed down yearly to 85 and that allows me to get rid of normal dev guys. 15) go to recruits, sort by minimum 4 star and interest top 10. sort by offers. add everyone with 0 offers. 16) offer these guys scholarships. 17) Disperse your points. This shouldnt be done evenly. This isnt a blanket approach. If you're recruiting somebody with 0 offers, its fine to put 10 points on him. Even 5. Just stay in 1st place. If you're up against 8 other scholarship offers, you may consider bailing on this kid bc this is a battle, take the path of least resistance and when deciding who to recruit, recruit the kid with 3 offers. You're not going to win every 5 star battle, but some battles are easier than others. repeat steps 14-17. Every Week. 18+) When you run out of 4 stars, start strategically adding 3 stars (without scholarship offers) at positions you do not have. No need to offer them scholarships. Do not compete. Check weekly and if they receive an offer... bail. Add somebody else. Do not compete for 3 stars. You're scouting them just by being on your board, so ideally, once all your 5 and 4 stars are locked up and you are out of 4 stars to pursue, my typical cycle, I will have maybe 4-5 5 stars, 12-16 4 stars locked up by before week 10. Then I can scout all of the 3 stars, find the gems. Only offer 3 star gems. I'm not competing with anybody for these 3 stars, and I will have the ability to put upwards of 80 hours on them if i am. I also know their interests, so i am able to hard sell immediately. I fill out my roster with the 3 stars and at the end of the day I have recruited an entire offense and defense and never have gaps in my roster. As to how this pertains to this video... i am not nit picking over 1 ovr point between any of these players. Theyre not going to play until theyre RS Junior at the earliest anyway and they'll be high 80. No difference in an 87 or 88 at that point. This is unnecessary nit picking.

[@epicdroneimages1128]

Screenshotting this

[@Wakaflockabach]

@@epicdroneimages1128 honestly, this is so effective it made the game almost boring lol its like cracking the code. I redshirt the entire class and they don't start until they are red shirt juniors at earliest, but usually just reloading every year with seniors. Something that you may or may not be aware of is that if you do I think architect or one of the coaching trees includes like a pay it it forward where there is an offseason xp bump for players who are behind a guy who gets drafted in the first 3rds. Well, once you have this system established, your guys are high 80s across the board and most of them in the 90s. I did this with Eastern Michigan, so its not like I'm a blue blood. In about 8 years or so, my entire recruiting classes were developing into 90s and then being top 3 picks. If you want to spam this effect and get massive offseason boosts, change your guys positions. I make every single OL a LT or LG depending on if theyre a better T or IOL, every LB a MLB and every DB a CB. Every year i have a 95ish ovr LT, LG, MLB, and CB going in the 1st round, so the entire underclassman receive a massive xp bump from him going in the 1st round, then i can play them where they need to be.

[@someperson3883]

I just recruit blue chips and gem 3 stars.

[@timminton4169]

Great analysis! Really curious to see for other types of prospects. A couple thoughts: 1. I would love to know the impact ranking has on badges. From my experience these have as big (if not a bigger) impact on gameplay 2. I'm curious how ranking impacts a prospect's likelihood to be drafted. Draft grades in dynasty are based on the likelihood of the current roster to get drafted, NOT the history of past draft classes. Player performance is obviously one variable here, but curious if ranking goes into the calculation. This could be a big factor in getting this school grade up. Which is important as it's often a dealbreaker on players

[@erc6943]

This suggests to me that what EA originally said about a 4 star gem being the equivalent of a 5 star and a 4 star bust being the equivalent of a 3 star a complete lie (except dev trait which we already knew). We don’t see any sort of stratification between tiers that would be needed for that to be true.

[@MCTurner-b4t]

Awesome video as always. Interesting thought but not trying to add work onto your plate lol. I wonder if you could get even better predictions if you went by player archetype instead of just position. Like does a receiving back vs power back make a difference.

[@iamcoolkinda]

Different archetypes do have different overalls, so it would make a difference. For example, route runners are on average significantly lower than deep threats and physicals

[@chadrutz8833]

T4g sports has all the averages of player development as you scout them their numbers open closer you are to the averages higher chance they will be a gem player.. check it out. But love the content Max. Keep it up

[@jacobrussell9816]

Hey Max, don’t know if you’ll see this or not, but I’m super interested in looking into this data deeper as well. Do you have the dataset in Kaggle or saved somewhere. I want to run some R code on it and see if I can find anything else that could be significant. Thanks!

[@maxplayscfb]

could you email me at [e-mail]? hoping to send the data out to anyone that emails me there this week

[@yugimotojeans]

Another Maxterclass

[@deanivers8743]

I support expanding this study, but I do think a similar model for gems and busts only could be interesting. For example, is a 3 star gem better than a 4 star bust and so on……

[@maxplayscfb]

True, or maybe “is a 3 star more likely to be a gem / have a good dev trait than a 2 star” etc

[@vinspad3]

Great job!

[@loganschmidt477]

I'd be interested in seeing data comparisons between a large sample of base star rating recruits (non-gem & non-bust) versus a large sample of gem recruits and a large sample of bust recruits for the same rating. From other videos I've seen and my own playthroughs it seems that gem/bust can have an impact on development more than overall but I always treat a gem recruit as one star better (3 star gem = 4 star) and the opposite for a bust, but I don't have any evidence to back any of that

[@maxplayscfb]

yeah i've heard that one-star bump from a few different people. i would LOVE to add the capability to predict an overall if you scouted someone and know they are a gem/bust -- i hope to grind on that before the end of this month!!!

[@gmoney5772]

This is more of a flaw in the game. I recruit 5 scrambling Qb’s and their stats are almost exact copies. They need more stat variation by archetype.

[@Logan-zw9uw]

Please do a spreadsheet for gems and busts!!

[@maxplayscfb]

Will for sure take some time this month to collect more data!!

[@CKBowling1]

What are your thoughts on stat caps? Do you pay any attention to that when setting your depth chart? I look at it during my initial analysis of my roster, but I can't decide if it should play a part or not. Should a player with open stat caps play over a heavily capped player...decisions decisions.

[@nicholaslake5937]

I'd go a step further and say that in addition to national ranking, their overall ranking isn't as important as whether their strengths and weaknesses fit your play-style...in addition to what position they play. If a CB is in the 90s but his speed is only 89, he'll get torched if you press speed WRs, for example. If you run a lot, a lower-rated blocking TE will do more for you than a speed TE with good hands, etc. I look for gems with the skills I like first and foremost, with some consideration to star rating.

[@maxplayscfb]

i agree. i care about speed for a RB WAYYYYYYYYYYY more than anything else based on my play style. unfortunately, i have to collect this data by hand so i just don't have the time to write down 20 stats per player, i gotta consolidate it down to one!!

[@nicholaslake5937]

@@maxplayscfb You do so much already, I don't blame you for not adding even more detail. I don't do anything to your scale, but I do write down the star/gem/dev status of all my recruits and then track where they end up (their overall rating, whether/where they are drafted, etc). I've noticed that some of my highest overall JR/SR players were only impact or star vs elites that don't get as high. I've had a number of 4-stars significantly outperform and finish much higher than 5-star elites. I do like it, as that randomness reflects real-life, where a walk-on QB can win the NC and a #1 HS recruit ends up playing for 3 different teams and going undrafted.

[@ry-an2]

EA should hire you! this is cool stuff keep it up

[@maxplayscfb]

I’d TOTALLY love to try and give them some advice / learn!!! Just hope they notice this channel tbh

[@ry-an2]

@@maxplayscfb imo they could branch out like 2k and include content creators / more rpg elements in their games like 2ktv in a sense, I think you could make a great informative voice for while people play dynasty. (although EA wouldn't benefit from this unless there was microtransactions unfortunately being a massive detriment to the game slowly and slowly every year *sigh*)

[@AM-rp8xn]

Max is really making me think of new ways to practice my statistical modeling skills using cfb this is wild. How did you do this, manually?

[@maxplayscfb]

Yup hand collecting each stat LMAO

[@TheTomato1991]

Love the dedication into this Max. Quick question, why would their position have an impact on their overall? Would a 3 star QB not have an overall range similar to a 3 star LB? Can’t wait to see the next BSC vid!

[@maxplayscfb]

So yes but there does seem to be *slight* differences between 0.5-1.5 ovr. Like your typical 3 star WR is slightly better than your typical 3 star OG, but it’s veryyyyy small and possibly due to our smaller sample size

[@Tyler-m8d]

I don’t care about overall, just look for gems because they have the best potential traits, almost always at least star

[@Mainevent41]

Got the #2 overall 5 star RB one year and he was a 72 overall. Complete waste of time and he was cut in year 2. Also, why does the game make us carry 6 TEs on the roster but we can only play 3? Just eats up so much roster space...

[@maxplayscfb]

Wow I never noticed the TE roster min thing

[@ghostrobot3714]

From what I understand, roster minimums are dependent on your offensive playbook. I use 'Multiple' and am only required to have 3 TEs.

[@Mainevent41]

@@ghostrobot3714 Interesting! I have a custom playbook I created off Arizona's playbook with some other formations added and it makes me carry 6 TEs...

[@DigitalDen2155]

Max...can you run through a sliders video? That would be awesome.

[@maxplayscfb]

I would BUT - I haven’t changed any!! I play heisman no slider adjustments, so I got nothing to share. Although I would maybe tweak some things if I knew what to tweak

[@footofsteel9102]

GOAT 😮

[@RicardoLeeDOP]

Wow, I always figured a 4 star gem would be equivalent to a 5 star bust. Appears that isn’t so, looks like the 5 star bust would be better.

[@cmgamedev]

Overall, to me, is far less important than stat caps. Using your example of. 3 star 500 rank versus 1500 rank, I'd be much more interested in knowing how caps are affected (if at all). Basically would rather know more about stat cap patterns versus overall patterns.

[@maxplayscfb]

Yeah I’m with ya, kinda wanna redo the experiment but instead of showing overall, showing dev traits

[@JGP40]

The goat

[@jmwoodscp3]

the skill caps are not the same, so still recruit higher ranked player’s abilities are king in this game

[@jimstunt9893]

Interesting, would make it even more useful with gems and busts

[@justTitan-1]

Excellent use of ggplot2!

[@maxplayscfb]

Heck yeah I love the tidyverse, thanks for noticing!!

[@JayTeejee547]

Great video! Question, were Athletes part of the sample and was there a noticeable difference between Athletes overall rating and regular recruits at the position?

[@rodinhoo]

great vid will def be using this!! who was the one absolute STUD that got recruited lol I wonder if he ended up just being the goat

[@rainmaker3854]

How do I get the roster view you showed at the beginning with the recruits and where they ended up, what their star rating was ETC.

[@johnnymo350]

Any thoughts on the player abilities science experiment?

[@BananaMan311]

Have you proven anything about JUCO recruits yet? Are they better?

[@maxplayscfb]

honestly there was only 10-20 juco guys in this initial experiment, which is why i just removed them from this analysis entirely. gut feeling, i would hope they have a higher ovr since they are older but i may try to look into it more

[@12mahcoe]

Sway or soft sell video?

[@CKBowling1]

So this is just their starting OVR, if a 3 star is gem with good traits they could end up progressing better than other recruits right?

[@maxplayscfb]

Correct, the goal here was to just see their day 1 overall

[@moses1129]

Do you have a Google sheet for tracking our depth charts? I’ve been doing it by hand on pen and paper but I wouldn’t mind having a nice sheet to track things

[@freakyToNonchalant]

Great video maybe you should allow user submissions of data with proof so it can be more accurate

[@dantesammarco9192]

Random question but starting a new dynasty soon, what’s a good good school with a mobile qb and good rb so I can run the unlv playbook? No school min or maximums! Love the content!

[@maxplayscfb]

thanks for watching!!! im clearly very biased but i think ball state ROCKS. christian davis has elite speed and is a decent starting RB one day 1, and kadin semonza is mobile enough to make all the right plays unfortunately i dont know enough to have other school recs

[@Primarch25]

Is there data on using scouted stats to determine development trait prior to signing a recruit?

[@maxplayscfb]

If there is, I didn’t collect it & haven’t seen it yet!! That would be sick tho

[@princekalibas9691]

EA is gonna hire you just to stop you from spilling all the data backed tea!! Another fire vid!! We want them all. Also, have you considered teaming up with the folks over at T4G sports?? I feel like y’all together would be unstoppable…

[@maxplayscfb]

Or EA could lemme see the real data behind this stuff and we could help them!! That’s the dream. Also I haven’t heard of them but their video titles alone look sick, I’ll look into them!

[@princekalibas9691]

Please go work for them and help them fix the progression of RTG. Not to sound like an old man, but back in my day RTG was king. Matter of fact, help them fix progression in general. It’s crazy how much detail they put into recruiting only to have player progression feel so random…

[@ImReverseGiraffe]

4:20. They dont want to insult players by giving them like 50 overalls. So badges are a way to make better players shine without being rude to worse players. No 18 year old wants to see hes like a 52 overall. The FCS teams should not be high 60s low 70s. They should be like mid 50s. Then bottoms tier FBS should be like mid 60s. Top tier schools should be mid to high 90s. But they dont want to do that.

[@hafestos]

The CFB/Madden KZbin community is so low effort and a lot of rehashing the same things (dOnT hOlD RT beHiNd LoS), it’s refreshing to see someone actually utilize real data opposed to just making assumptions while labbing just to create content.

[@cdskilla]

I’ve had a 3 star RB get up to 95 overall and become an All American I thought it was an anomaly

[@maxplayscfb]

how were their stats? i wonder if they had an awesome dev trait or if you just absolutely balled out with them

[@MTheroy]

Numbers number numbers… Thank you

[@maxplayscfb]

Any time! thanks for watching

[@CB33-m7m]

These real data is the breakdown in position specific attributes like OL , RBK and PBK etc is there a difference there?! Overall isn’t most important, highest overall doesn’t mean best player. I play whoever has the better attributes for their position

[@mikeemery4510]

People make a lot of money putting data into spread sheets. You might have a future in that.

[@tylerb6436]

The dev trait and skill caps are probably way different

[@maxplayscfb]

Maybe, but also maybe not! Gonna look into it this month

[@patrickh5490]

Thank you sir

[@maxplayscfb]

Thank you for watching!

[@nate_too_much]

Nca needs to throw in some 1 stars that are 80 ovr

[@maxplayscfb]

yeah that's a topic in my cfb 26 wishlist video coming later this week, but i agree. i dont think there is enough variation across recruits. lemme see a 69 overall wide receiver that is 6 foot 8 with great hands, or one that is five foot nine but with 98 speed

[@smnewton54]

Max did you have a formal education in statistical analysis?

[@maxplayscfb]

yup!! i studied economics and analytics in undergrad, and then got my master's in business analytics that got done in may!

[@smnewton54]

@@maxplayscfbcongrats on getting your masters. been enjoying the content and appreciate the detail.

[@loozsy]

Damn, did you study data science? Implementation of these methods for a GAME is crazy

[@jmccrac21]

Can’t you also use their playing time grade?

[@maxplayscfb]

A lot of yall have mentioned that. How does that work?? I may need to look more into it

[@jmccrac21]

@maxplayscfb I don’t think you could use it to get an actual rating but from what I understand, the grade takes into account that prospect’s rating vs your projected starters as well as other prospects on your board at that position. I’ve been able to use this to make sure I’m getting good recruits without scouting.

[@ConJon13]

Thank you banana guy

[@maxplayscfb]

Ojhhhhhhh man deep cut, I can’t believe people remember that

[@ConJon13]

@ how could I forget getting interviewed on PED

[@trillazzaj]

Mane I had a 5 ⭐️ 💎 with star development & 25 caps, that should NEVER happen!