Using the Lemuel Lyman shot pouch with smoothbores

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Well done on the bag, Mike!

[@thelonerider9693]

That steel sound when you hit the target makes me smile. Interesting about the origin of the bag I imagine it being filled with lead helped slow the bullet that hit him. I recall seeing these written up in - of all things - an old Lyman's black powder magazine in their orig. belt configuration. Did not know the story of their origin. I like that you keep a second cleaning head for the rod, I need to get one and do that. I forgot my range rod today and got a patch stuck trying to clean with the ramrod after a few shots. I imagine an altoids tin would work even if it was not historical, for storing the cleaning heads.

[@micrepa2722]

I do not think you would be thrown out of the Militia. You are probably better than most of the people watching your video at the manual of arms for this rifle. Thanks for the great video

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Excellent shooting my friend! Thanks for sharing that smoothie shooting......

[@paraplegichistoricalsports5700]

I watch a ton of your very educational and professional videos and I have learned a ton doing so.

[@1717jbs]

Nice bag. Looks like the rain has stopped for a while. Thanks.

[@terrysmith8714]

Another great video, and I may add, History lesson. You do a great job Mike. Thank you. Keep a stick on the ice.

[@jkrause365]

Simplicity itself. I like it.

[@TrueOpinion99]

I added about an inch of width to the front panel but kept the dimensions the same for the dividers and rear panel. This basically causes the front pocket to "bubble" giving me extra room in the front while keeping the rear panel flat. It increases capacity slightly without adding additional bulk or making the bag too big.

[@SlickSixguns]

Definitely have to say I like the Lyman bag alot more than the other one you showed. good choice going for authenticity

[@singleshot2218]

Nice! Wish my grandmother was still with ya..she and gramp had a leather shop.

[@jeffe.9904]

Thank You Mike, Another Entertaining Video!

[@martincyr1370]

Great video. Love the history behind it all. Made me read about the battle of Lake George 👍🇨🇦

[@Bill23799]

Thanks Mike for another interesting video.

[@pikeywyatt]

Thank,s Mike,siting at kitchen table,have taken dimensions (what to use) haha i have a very old leather m bike jacket, that will do nicely.

[@Rumblestrip]

Damn Mike. Nice bag. I can see you've been competing a little recently. That or your trying to get back in the swing for it. That finger dexterity is killer sometimes. Hard to quit once ya get it going. Lol nice times.

[@ToreDL87]

Another excellent video!

[@williamnye478]

I love simplicity!

[@herbertsmith6416]

Nice bag Mike.

[@shanemccauley8354]

Thank you for the reply. I appreciate it still learning. I thoroughly enjoy your videos thank you.

[@pcm9482]

Now i want one

[@williampollock1274]

Thats pretty good 35 yards with a smooth bore!

[@johnstacy7902]

Thanks mike. One of these days you need to shoot some Skeet with that smoke pole....

[@herbertsmith6416]

Good looking gun.

[@TartanJack]

I find your stuff fascinating largely because you bring some much detailed history along with it. My reaction to this was based on imagining a battle situation. I'm sure there were some very adept shooters following your sequence, but I wonder if any in battle would take the time to re-seat the ramrod? I just imagine I'd drop it on the ground or even just stick it between my legs to get the next shot off as fast as possible. But given the time it takes (I got 1:07 between your first two shots) the guerrilla sniping in the Revolutionary War becomes all the more imaginable as a simple, devastating and terrifyingly possible technique. What do you and your expert friends think about the ramrod in a rapid firing sequence?

[@wrxs1781]

Again another good video, I will try and reproduce the Lyman bag it looks relatively uncomplicated. Also the paper cartridge would be my choice.

[@LewisSkeeter]

Please post more videos.

[@josephbarnes8000]

Great video and may I add that your rifles are so much more accurate than mine. Or you are an exceptional marksman

[@pchrysostomou7955]

Cool video 👍

[@jj-ve9wy]

Thanks Mike for an informative and fun video. I was wondering if you are using a smaller ball in the cartridge loads or is it the same as bare ball . Again, thanks for braving the heat and humidity for us.

[@duelist1954]

j j much smaller. .580”

[@jjohnston94]

The way you twirl the ramrod around each time you either pull it from storage or from the barrel looks risky. Have you ever dropped it? Just sitting here watching, it seems that if you were to turn your hand over the last time you shift your grip on it, you could just turn your hand back over once it's free, while maintaining a full-fisted grip on it, which would reduce the risk of dropping it.

[@JoanieKennedy]

I use paper cartridges alot, find that wax paper works well.

[@burnsboysaresoldiers]

Hey Mike, can you speak more of the Lancaster Indian trade rifles? We all known of the Hudson indian trade muskets but i cant seem to find much of anything of the Lancaster indian trade rifles. I saw them on TOTW and a handy 36inch barrel .54 rifle seems pretty darn ideal. Especially with the price and I'm PA boy myself i may want it to be my first kit build

[@bbarton84]

Awesome!!

[@psnpacific]

Great video!!!

[@STMwoodturning]

Thanks for sharing this, it appears to be a very practical addition to the "kit". A question about priming your flintlock... how full do you fill the pan? Would you mind showing this in a future video or refer me to one you've already done so I can see what works for you. Is it different for rifles than smooth bores?

[@duelist1954]

MrTaco250 I fill my pans level, or a little less.

[@TheBiggestIron]

Hey mike, could you do an informational video on the state of current production Uberti produced 1873 Colt pattern revolvers? I'm having a hard time finding good information, I hear they have really butchered them with floating firing pins and 3 click hammers. Do we still have the option to get one from uberti with the 4 click hammer and fixed firing pin? Or are those days over?

[@Glrk10]

Hi. I have a repro 1766 Charleville musket. I bought it used and the seller said it was a Pedersoli. However Pedersoli is not written on it. Instead “made in Japan” is written on the barrel. Do you have any idea what company could have made it? I’m not aware of any repro companies that use Japanese parts. It shoots great.

[@duelist1954]

Glrk10 Miroku...excellent gun!

[@Glrk10]

Should you be interested it’s for sale on gunbroker. Look for 1766 Charleville

[@mikeblair2594]

You didn't miss, that thing RANG

[@johnduffant9694]

I’m a total beginner but I thought it was supposed be powder, patch ball. Please explain why you do it this way. Thanks

[@duelist1954]

This is the way smooth bores were loaded in the 18th century. People today prefer to load them the same way they load rifles, but that is not historically correct.

[@johnduffant9694]

Sorry I have another question. Is the divider stitched at the bottom or is it left loose. I don’t see any stitching along the bottom. Thanks

[@duelist1954]

It is loose

[@douglasmaccullagh1267]

Great pouch pattern! Any suggestions on sources for the leather?

[@duelist1954]

Douglas MacCullagh Tandy

[@eugenejohnson8635]

I bet you can make them and sale them because I been looking for them they hard to find unless you make them your self I like the ones Daniel Boone had

[@unclecordite9208]

So, how much powder in your paper cartridges, and what ball diameter?

[@duelist1954]

110 grains of 2F, .580” ball

[@Blackbart5118]

Looks pretty wet there. I'm surprised you could get that flint lock to spark in those conditions.

[@jwmorrison79]

Hi Mike, Great Video! Who's the maker of the smoothbore you're shooting? (forgive me if you mentioned it during the video and I just missed it)

[@duelist1954]

jwmorrison79 Shawn Webster. You can find him on Facebook. He is best known for his quill work.

[@TartanJack]

Oh... and I'm off on a mission to procure suitable leather for my own Lyman bag.

[@Ballenxj]

You use 2F for both propellent and primer? For some reason I always thought you would use 4F for priming?

[@duelist1954]

I usually use 4Fg for priming, unless it is very humid. But in the 18th century people did not do that. They loaded and primed with the same powder. So, when I’m being authentic, I do as they did.

[@Ballenxj]

@@duelist1954 Ah, I see. Thanks for the reply.

[@SpruceReduce8854]

Great video! When you only put wadding on top of the ball, does it still provide a gas seal to increase velocity, or is it only to prevent the ball from rolling?

[@duelist1954]

Daniel Butka It only keeps the ball from rolling. When you’re shooting a bare ball (no patch) in a smoothbore, you don’t want a gas seal. The hot gas around the ball helps to center it in the bore...or that’s the theory anyway.

[@SpruceReduce8854]

@@duelist1954 thanks for the reply

[@ka3bhy]

Dear Mike, I am not “crafty” at all. Would you consider making a video on how to make one of these?

[@joep4235]

great vid !!!!

[@shanemccauley8354]

I have a question that may sound adolescent, but here it goes anyway. Why the patch last? I got my first cva St. Louis Hawkins kit when I was twelve and am now fourth five. So I am not new to muzzleloading but I am somewhat shielded from new information I was taught by my father to patch first and then the ball now my hawkin is .50 cal. Is that the difference? By the way between me and an uncle sharing my gun we have shot and killed over fourty deer with it. Just sharing that.

[@michael.w.salter]

Mike was shooting a smooth bore musket. In a musket, the ball is a loose fit, thus the wad is put in last to hold the ball in place.

[@duelist1954]

You are loading your rifle correctly, but I am using a smoothbore. I could load a patched ball, just like a rifle, but that is not how they loaded muskets in the 1700s

[@CZ-BO-HUNK]

2-3 years ago was my first attempt to BP deer hunt with powder horn and bag then the second year it hit me i will most likely only get one shot so why do i need to carry a big bag with twenty round ball, fifty pre-cut patches and a full horn full of powder.

[@caman5]

About how many shots can you get on average, before needing to swap/modify the flint?

[@duelist1954]

It depends on the flint. Sometimes 3 or four, but, more often 25 or so. Knapping the edge will get you another five or so.

[@davidlane7434]

What size paper did you use for your paper cartridge?

[@duelist1954]

Dimensions of the template for the paper...is that what you mean?

[@davidlane7434]

@@duelist1954 yes the size of the paper you use I have searched the web everywhere and can’t find the size anywhere. The shapes are the same but the sizes are all different. Thank you for your time foolen around with me.

[@davidlane7434]

.62 20 guage

[@jeromeh5674]

Hey Mike, are you using Swiss 2FG or Goex, in this video? Thank you!

[@duelist1954]

Jerome H Swiss 2Fg

[@blairroth1812]

Is it powder ball patch or powder patch ball ?

[@duelist1954]

Blair Roth powder, ball, wad...I realize I kept saying patch in the video, but it is a wad.

[@redsky8509]

last time I used 110 grns. on my .50 cal rifle I knew I did wrong, should have only been 65 grns. With smooth bores I notice you all use a lot more powder, why? please

[@duelist1954]

Red Sky With bare balls in a smoothbore, I generally only get accuracy at higher powder charges. Also, I’m using 2Fg, So pressure is a lot lower than a 3Fg load.

[@redsky8509]

@@duelist1954 thank you, yes I use 2FF in my .50 also.

[@psnpacific]

👍

[@zombieapocalipse2020]

Hey Mike are you still on firearms talk its been years since I have been on there?

[@duelist1954]

zombieapocalypse2020 No. I rarely get on the forum sites anymore.

[@danieljohnson9783]

Sweet video Mike! I also have a question should i get a 1847 Colt Walker or Colt 1860 for open carry?

[@duelist1954]

The 1860. The Walker weighs a ton

[@danieljohnson9783]

@@duelist1954 thankyou🤘🤘keep up the great work!

[@robertmiller8578]

Didn't they also use paper rounds later for both the smooth bore and rifled bore that they would pre make be for leaving camp to make it easier for a second or even a third follow up shot faster also using the pouch to carry every thing