Using The Yamaha EAD-10 As A Drum Monitor

[@JpLdrummer]

I use it too as drum monitor, it's so confortable !! To gain some time, I've setted up one kit for each song. Just need to press + button after each song, the tempo is programmed and I'm sure there will be no mistake !

[@Juanvanemmerloot]

Thanks! It sounds like a life saver for drummers to me… I finally got mine and will fiddle about with it taking your tips on board! Awesome clear video superthanks…

[@ericmulerometaldrummer]

Thank you for this. Going to try it this weekend!

[@Salamanderfs]

I was literally thinking about this scenario the other day with a friend. I’m building an IEM/Split Rack that our band can bring to venues and don’t want to deal with the hassle of splitting all the drum mics. This is also a life saver for any of your other bandmates using IEMs cause they could get a nice stereo drum feed/bus and not have to worry about dealing with more than 2 drum channels in their own IEM mix. Great video!

[@clarkmaasbach]

Great video , thanks for sharing . I will defiantly use this the same way !

[@samsschool3639]

Nice to see you posting again Mr Edgegoose!

[@edruminfo]

Thank you. It's that lack of... what's it called.... time! Hopefully there'll be a few more soon.

[@RJWPG]

Perfect! EXACTLY what is was looking for! And an elegant solution to boot!

[@rickhendriksen12]

Thanks for the video!! Very easy to understand

[@edruminfo]

No problem. Thanks for watching.

[@demianarriaga]

This is incredible Simon! I've used the EAD10 in a similar way but this is much, much better! If I might be so bold to suggest maybe adding links to the types of cables/adaptors in the future because I will certainly use it from now on and would like the identical setup! THANKS!

[@ArgonautDrums]

The ead10 is so versatile, love mine

[@tommodeski8637]

If u run stereo out from a mixer into the B input on the EAD, it uses all the microphones connected to your mixer for the EAD.

[@edruminfo]

You also risk frying the output stage of the mixer as the EAD uses non standard phantom power through input B to power the sensor.

[@tommodeski8637]

@edruminfo yes but It dosent backfeed, I checked with a meter, works like a charm.

[@saulhudson302]

I love it ! Playing around with positions i got great sounds. Having the Mic/Trigger right in the middle of the Bass Drum it was very bsss drum heavy. Moved it toward the nearest bass drum lug towards the right and the sound came alive.....not in the middle like suggested ! Even not pushing the mic right up againstthe hoop was very balancedin sound. 👌 If i can help anyone just ask no problems.

[@nolopyllo1746]

Can you set the tempo and metronome in each scene or do you have to do it manually each time you change tracks? fantastic tutorial !!!

[@edruminfo]

Each Scene can have its own tempo. You dont set it with the Click button, you go to Menu / Scene Edit / Tempo and set each one there.

[@nolopyllo1746]

@@edruminfo sorry mate, I have another cuestion,, I want to use the EAD10 to replace the microphones and record a drum track using the AUX IN as a monitor as you have put it in the diagram. I take the signal from the EAD10 through the L R output to the desk and from there to the DAW (reaper), the problem is that the AUX IN signal gets into the recording .... is there any way to avoid this? i only want the signal from the drum kit and the BD trigger..... in other words... you can use the EAD10 as a monitor and as a mic system at the same time???????????? Thx !!!

[@edruminfo]

@@nolopyllo1746 In this video I'm not sending the EAD to the PA or a recorder, so it doesn't matter if the Aux In can be heard. You can not take the Aux In out of the master outputs. What you need to do is monitor from the desk. Connect the computer output to the desk and monitor from there. Then you'll hear the EAD, and the track but only the EAD will be recorded.

[@edruminfo]

@@nolopyllo1746 Anything plugged into the Aux In will also be sent to the main outputs so you cant use it for monitoring at the same time as mic'ing without using a separate mini mixer. Mount the EAD on the kit and send the outs to FOH. Get them to send back your monitor mix with the EAD mixed in and that will work but obviously your mix will rely on the FOH engineer being on top of things.

[@nolopyllo1746]

@@edruminfo thank you very much for the answer!! the problem is that I want to manage the metronome directly, we don't have an engineer.

[@mrtc29]

Great content, very informative, really useful Best in the business as far as I’m concerned! P4 on the floor Tom..👍 See you again soon I hope Matt

[@johngatto5942]

Awesome video. Thank you for putting it together. For the click, are you manually changing the tempo between each song? I saw that there’s a way to tie different tempos to a scene, but I’m not sure how that would work if staying on a single scene like you’re doing here. Ideally it would be nice if there was a “setlist” feature like I have on my Roland TD-27 electric kit module. Thanks!

[@edruminfo]

Hi. For this gig I did just stay on one Scene and manually change the tempo. However, if there wasn't time to do that, I would just duplicate the one Scene (as many times as tracks we were playing), name each one the same as each track, and then save the click tempo for each one and drag them into set order using the Sort function. You can assign a pad or a foot switch to cycle through Scenes so I'd just have to hit a pad or hit a foot switch to change click tempo.

[@johngatto5942]

@@edruminfo That's great info! Thank you so much for the reply!

[@stefanvombruch5649]

Hi Simon, thanks a lot for this Video! I‘ve had my EAD 10 for a couple of days now and took it to an audition/rehearsal today. Thanks to your tips this was a great monitoring solution. I used it exactly like you did. Especially the idea to put an adjustable headphone amp between the band feed and the module was golden. Do you know wether the firmware is still being improved? I loaded a 2bar percussion loop into the module and put the triggering into hold mode. Unfortunately the wave file didn‘t loop seemlessly, there was a short gap before the loop started again. A loop function like in the DMX12 or Roland SPD-SX would be handy. Thanks again!

[@edruminfo]

No problem at all. I would suggest you have a look at that loop, as it does loop seamlessly so not sure where the problem is. Was the loop originally an MP3 by any chance? That could explain it.

[@stefanvombruch5649]

@@edruminfoThanks for the fast answer! I created the loop in Reaper from a percussion vst and exported it as 16bit, 44.1 wave file. In Reaper it looped seemlessly. But I look into this again. Good to know, that the EAD can loop seemlessly.

[@inktime]

Wow, that’s excellent 😮

[@TheMaxNL]

Would be Great to send only edrums sounds to FOH, and Mic signal only to own IEM as an output route option.

[@user-xz5bh5kt8c]

I have a traps single head kit, I know I would have too alter the bass drum hoop for the mic to fit but I would love to hear what it sounds like.

[@edruminfo]

It would sound like a Traps kit but louder I guess. Traps kits dont project very far so I'm guessing the floor tom would be quite quiet but everything else should be OK. At least the bass drum has a steel hoop so you could use a Ddrum Redshot trigger for that, but how you'd mount the Sensor Unit on the bass drum would take a little more thought.

[@user-xz5bh5kt8c]

@@edruminfo what about triggers on the floor toms 👍🏻

[@edruminfo]

@@user-xz5bh5kt8c That would help

[@Rijo31000]

Great video again, thanks! One question: how and where can you separately control the band volume in the monitor mix from the drum throne?

[@edruminfo]

Thanks Richard. In the video, the band are coming in on the XLR provided by FOH. I've got that going through a passive headphone mixer, and I can adjust the volume of the band by turning the volume control of that up or down. To get the mix correct, you have to balance the monitor feed, with the click, with the kit, which takes a couple of minutes, but once its done its pretty quick to nudge volumes up or down as required.

[@craigfrober316]

Really appreciate the info, Simon. Something I was wondering while watching: with this live setup, could you also use the EAD10 to send backing tracks to both headphones and FOH, in such a way that the BT level can be adjusted separately from the click and band mix? It would be such a game changer if possible!

[@edruminfo]

Hi, not with the EAD but you can do this with the DTXproX module

[@craigfrober316]

@@edruminfo Noted. Thank you 🙏

[@sergiozdrums]

great video

[@edruminfo]

Thank you

[@diobrittodrums]

Love how you explain everything perfectly! However I still have a question. If I want to use my EAD10 just like you for monitoring myself, but I have to play to a clicktrack (coming from a laptop for example), would I still need my own mixer to run the EAD 10 + Click/tracks separated and plug my headphone to the mixer, or is there an easier way? I need to send the split track to FOH so I am guessing I still need my own little mixer. Thank you!

[@edruminfo]

Thank you! And thank you for getting in touch. You can use a mixer, or just split the signal (however you want to) and plug the click into the Aux In on the back of the EAD. You'll be able to hear you and the click and mix it, just as I do in the video.

[@danielwest8586]

Would a behringer p1 iem work as passive headphone mixer?

[@davesisson1899]

have you tried to run the ead just into a drum monitor coming back at you? i've never tried earbuds, anyway result was feedback, as you might think.

[@edruminfo]

It will feedback - the microphones in the EAD Sensor will pick up the monitor - that's physics. This is an advantage of IEM - they lower the stage volume (no drum monitor) and much less likely to feedback unless you have them incredibly loud.

[@lorisf3882]

Hi Simon , as a novice to this , how do you use the ead10 live without the microphones picking up other sounds on stage like guitar amps , fold backs etc ??? Many thanks

[@tonyvalenti6614]

Thanks for posting about the EAD10. Your videos are helpful for a newbie like me. I have a question. I have my EAD connected to an Avid MBOX Studio Interface by using the 1/4” L/R EAD Outputs to the 1/4” 5/6 Line Inputs on my MBOX. Does the EAD Outputs require pre amp mic inputs on the interface? Thank you again!

[@edruminfo]

Hi. A few things here. No, it doesn't need mic inputs as the (mic) signal is already being processed in the EAD and the outputs are jack plugs (normal), not XLR (the 3 pin connectors found on the bottom of microphones). But also, you don't need to connect the EAD via an audio interface - it has one built in so just connect the EAD to your computer with a USB cable and find the EAD as an audio interface. Much simpler.

[@tonyvalenti6614]

@@edruminfo Thank you so much!! 👍🏻 If I connect it to my computer, how can I add both my Avid MBox Studio Interface and my EAD10 to Pro Tools so I can have a track from the EAD and the other things connected to my MBox? Thanks again!! 👍🏻

[@edruminfo]

@@tonyvalenti6614 Are you PC or Mac?

[@tonyvalenti6614]

@@edruminfo 🤦🏻‍♂️ Sorry. Windows 11.

[@edruminfo]

@@tonyvalenti6614 In which case, carry on as you are doing at the moment. If it were Mac you could set up an Aggregate Device and run 2 or more audio interfaces at the same time.

[@stephenabenoja8167]

Thank you for this video. What’s your headphone amp?

[@edruminfo]

It can be anything - my one is a SubZero SZ-HC1 but anything from Behringer, Fischer etc. It doesn't do anything apart from allow you to turn the band up or down and protect the EAD. My one in nothing magical.

[@Trickdude]

Great info! What is the name of that mini headphone mixer?

[@edruminfo]

Its just a generic Chinese headphone amp. This one is branded SubZero and its the SZ-HC1 but there are many similar from Behringer (P2), Fischer (Mini Body Pack 2) and many others.

[@Trickdude]

@@edruminfo Thanks!

[@johnjmccann]

Question. Can you use this monitor set and have the EAD as the primary drum mike and send that to the house. If yes I would mange, you would just use the mono left jack on the EAD and send that to the mixing board. Is that correct? Thank you for your post.

[@edruminfo]

I don't quite get what you mean. Yes, you can use this to mic the whole kit. Yes, you can send it to the FOH mixer. Yes, you can listen to yourself as a monitor at the same time. I personally wouldn't go mono - you'll get a much better audio experience if you monitor in stereo, and the same for FOH but it depends if your PA is in stereo or mono I guess.

[@johnjmccann]

@ you got what I was trying to ask. Thank you for responding.

[@GustavoMoreiracmc]

Hi Simon. And if I use the sounds of EAD to send to the FOH, for the audience, and still using the audio of aux input, how to not Re-send what I receive in the aux input?

[@edruminfo]

You cant directly with the EAD as the Aux In is wired directly to the outputs. You will need to use a mini mixer and take your monitor feed and combine it with the headphone output of the EAD (sent at a very low level so it does not distort). Click the link for a diagram www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/p02xf5w22drmjrlmsj6wq/EAD-Headphone-Mix-Mini-Mixer-Text.jpeg?rlkey=bdpmm576cm8ncccow56cz1ta6&dl=0

[@gedexisdelicious]

Since the drum is miced by the venue, did you remove the drum sound from the FOH?

[@edruminfo]

If you mean the foldback coming into the EAD so I could hear the rest of the band, yes, it was all the rest of the band apart from drums. One load of drums is enough - two would be horrible!

[@flashfan1122]

So the click is an included option in rhe ead, correct, or were you adding a seperate click system?

[@edruminfo]

Yes, the click is built into the EAD. It can be sent just to the headphone out, or the master outs as well, depending on what you need. Every 'scene' (patch) can have a different click setting.

[@carlosbarbosa793]

Hi Simon, while I am playing and listening through my headphones, can other headphones could be plugged at the back of the module so my friend can actually listen what I am playing??

[@edruminfo]

Not into the module. You will need a 'headphone splitter' or 'headphone distribution amp'.

[@carlosbarbosa793]

Thanks a lot Simon!! Congrats amazing explanations, easy and quick!!

[@saulhudson302]

Hello EAD10 'ers Can one of you please help ? Dont kmow how to play music via the 'aux in' with an ipod nano or an mp3 stick in the usb in port that contain music ? I put it in but nothing happens ? It has so many options and really dont want to stuff it up ,i need some help please. 🙏 🥁

[@barrybebenek8691]

If you change the scene knob to control click tempo, how do you change scenes at all? Or do you just leave it at whatever you picked first? (In this case ARENA).

[@edruminfo]

Not quite. When you put the knob into Data mode it actually changes ANYTHING on the screen so if the Scenes are on there, it will change Scene. If you have the tempo on the screen, it will change that. It will just change whatever is on the screen, not JUST the Scene. Try it - you'll see. Its actually must better as a default position that the knob just changing the Scene.

[@barrybebenek8691]

@@edruminfo I see. Ya it does sound like a better function than default. Thanks you. 🇨🇦👍🏼

[@gavatron1980]

Do you have to get the mix from the desk to turn off all the drums going into the monitor? Otherwise you'd get two lots of drums?

[@edruminfo]

Some people like loads of drums(!), but yes, you're correct. I sort of assumed people wouldn't go for double drums (unless they're in a Genesis tribute act of course...)

[@DonP60]

45 seconds?

[@edruminfo]

I knew someone would question this so I timed it. Assuming I have the case with the EAD open in front of me and the stand base I put the module on already standing, then putting the Sensor on the kick, tightening it, mounting the module, plugging the power in and connecting the two with the double cable and powering on, then yes. Perfect for when you're late to a gig!

[@johnpanteli3489]

Greetings from Downunder. Simon, great video lessons on EAD thanks. I now want to use the CLICK on all songs for live gigs, I followed your instructions on how to use the Scene knob to adjust the great click speed, it worked and adjusting the tempo was great. But I went back to using the click for rehearsal and when pressing the click button and then turning the scene knob to adjust the tempo, there was no tempo adjustment it went back to changing the scene settings only. After all that outline..Do you have to press STORE after changing the scene to DATA, or do you have to reset to Data every time the EAD is turned off? Cheers

[@edruminfo]

@@johnpanteli3489 Yes. You need to save any settings you change.